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2013-06-28 11:32 AM
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Hey Manatees!

Busy morning for me. Brass is in from Phoenix so I got my workout done (still on track with my Jogo) but didn't get my core stuff done (yet). Treated myself to Sbux for getting my hiney outta bed for the swim!

Jo and Jo, get better.

Yanti, I'm sure you will get everything to some semblance of control. We'll send dental floss if needed Laughing



2013-06-28 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by Richardsdrr Had an Aquathlon of two halves. The good, and the bad. Swim was a complete nightmare, but then went on to smash not only my tri 5km time by 3:09, but my standalone 5km time by 1:29 also. So well chuffed with that, but am getting really worried about the swim in a few weeks. Not far off sub 20 min, my target for this year

Congrats on the run! Why/how was the swim bad? Did you struggle in the water?

We've had a bit of warm weather, so the plants have had a growth spurt. Couldn't get a proper stroke going on, we were swimming through the plants and getting tangled in them. I had a major panic attack and couldn't calm myself down again, swam about 85% breast stroke. It was really tough going. 4 people got pulled out of the swim, including my bro in law. Not fun.

I have a real issue with flora in the water!  I hate seaweed and the like.  I also hate jelly fish - here in silly Australia those things can kill ya.  And then there's the sharks.  I wonder actually why I love OWS at all!

Well done, you got through it.  It's probably the worst you'll deal with so next time will be awesome.  My trick of late when I get those panicky moments (yes I still get them) is to count 100 freestyle strokes and then I'm allowed 25 breaststroke if I need it.  If I don't take it I have to wait for the next 100.  It really focusses your mind on something other than the panic and plantlife etc.

Dude....I should never watch the nature channels late at night.  I saw a special on the Irukandji jellyfish and now I am terrified to ever swim in Australia.  I got stung a bunch during the NYC tri and that was bad enough.

Yep, same here.  No nature shows at night... we watched a couple of episodes of River Monsters and yeah... no more at night!!! 

2013-06-28 11:58 AM
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Ah, Fachmie, I love this boy. A real piglet, such great heart. Still gave it his all, 10-15 min down (HEY! Awesome! I was only a "few" min back from him on the bike ) to grab his age group and top 10 overall.

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2013-06-28 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by jogo1st day of marathon training, 1st badge of honor.  I am graceful.  Fell on the treadmill during my personal training session with new trainer man. 
Photo: 1st day of marathon training, 1st battle wounds. It takes a special kind of person to wipe out on a treadmill during a personal training session.

Poor young piglet,  I was his 1st injury.  If there is no bone showing, keep going!!! Isn't that what we Manatees do?  Well it is what I did, at least. 

Ouch! ouch! ouch! but way to HTFU and show the new boy what a manatee is made of! :D
Wow. Damn, that looks like it hurts Are those like treadmill burns? Fachmie. That makes my skin hurt just looking at it. Supr

Yes, treadmill burns.  So this is the story:  "we are going to finish our session with some speed work.  I am going to set the treadmill at 7mph and you are going to jump on for 100m then jump to the side for 50m and take total rest then repeat.  1st jump on did not go well.  When I fell, I grabbed the top of the treadmill not to get launched but the mill was still turning.  He was yelling at me to let go and I yelled at him to press the stop button.  I let go because he was not stopping so the bloody one is the result of the launch on to the rug.  The others are just treadmill burns.  My DNA is definitely on that belt.  I couldn't find a comfortable sleeping spot last night but other than the sting of the burn, it won't stop me!!   I am a MANATEE!!!  Fachmie!

Oh for fach's sake!  That sounds horrible.  Do we trust this young piglet?

If you ever want to try the jumping to the side of the moving treadmill thing again--which, quite frankly, I wouldn't blame you ONE BIT for not wanting to ever do again--I put my hands on the rails while getting on and off and I keep my hands on the rails (suspending a bit of my weight with my arms) while I take the first five or six strides back into the run. 

That looks like it FACHING HURTS.  I'm sorry you had bad sleep last night:/ I'm glad that it's "merely" a flesh wound, and you don't have torn ligaments or anything.  Cripes!  Take care of you.  Hugs.

Yes, actually I do still trust him.  This was a mistake and after my last training experience I didn't speak up.  I really like this piglet and up until now he has been so great at explaining things and working to improve my strength for running specifically.  When he told me what to do, I thought he was crazy and thought I am totally going to kill myself doing this.  I didn't say anything, trying to be an obedient client.   I should have.  The Mama Hen voice inside my head was saying, never get on a moving treadmill. 

I probably would've done okay with my arms on the side bars but he had me put my hands on the middle HR bars to jump on.  I couldn't distribute my weight properly.   I bet he never has another client do that again.  He looked so frightened and freaked out after and felt so bad.  I know his intentions were good and he really would never try to hurt someone.  He is a treasure but we all make mistakes.  I hope this didn't frighten him off.  In 5 sessions with him, I have learned more and gotten so much stronger than I ever did with trainer idiot boy. 

I really should check youtube to see if I've gone viral.  I wonder if someone videoed.  America's Funniest Home Video's HERE I COME!! There were tons of people at the gym who witnessed this because we had awful storms last night.  Everyone was inside training.

Well ... I am glad you are alright.

Not sure how I feel about this jumping on and off speedwork shyte though. Ok, I am sure how I feel about it. That's a great way to get hurt. Not to mention, when does one ever laterally jump into a full speed sprint (which I assume 7 MPH to be for you, correct me if I am wrong) and then jump to the side? 

2013-06-28 12:07 PM
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Racing Manatees!


June 29-30
Ben - Wisconsin Triterium sprint on Saturday
Tom - Mason Tri-umph on Sunday
Chad - Pacific Crest Oly on Sunday
TJ - Girls Just Wanna Have Fun TT on Sunday

Disabled list:
Mike - feet
JoGo - Faching treadmill...
Jo - under the weather
Yanti - fever


JoGo Challenge continues!
Log 'em!  Post 'em to JoGo's inspires at least once a week!  Look for the weekly report!

TdF Challenge - Come one come all!
http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=492754&page=1

Core Challenge - 100d x 10m = 1 strong core
http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=492917&page=1

Good thoughts for Kate's mom and her recovery from hip surgery!

Good thoughts for Mutti and her health!

2013-06-28 12:08 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)

Manatees, I need fashion advice!  I bought these mostly black tri shorts.  Do I go with the black jersey or the blue jersey.  I'm leaning towards blue, but not sure if that would look weird.

jerseys

shorts



2013-06-28 12:11 PM
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My BikeMS team is doing a Fantasy TdF thing at http://www.velogames.com/. It's free.

If your are interested, I created a Manatees league.

League Details

League Name: Manatees of BT
League Code: 28182610

I ended up picking who I liked more so than who I think will actually win so you have a great chance of pounding the Kizer Cruisers ;-)

2013-06-28 12:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Originally posted by Artemis

Manatees, I need fashion advice!  I bought these mostly black tri shorts.  Do I go with the black jersey or the blue jersey.  I'm leaning towards blue, but not sure if that would look weird.

jerseys

shorts

Ooooh - I like what you chose, and if you want to go with the blue - go for the blue!  It looks like the blue of the top matches the blue of the bottoms, so don't worry about it. 

For ME (because I'm a bit of a dork) I'd go with the black top, just because I'd want to look ninja-stealthy like in all black.   Cool

2013-06-28 12:22 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
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Originally posted by Artemis

Manatees, I need fashion advice!  I bought these mostly black tri shorts.  Do I go with the black jersey or the blue jersey.  I'm leaning towards blue, but not sure if that would look weird.

jerseys

shorts

Ooooh - I like what you chose, and if you want to go with the blue - go for the blue!  It looks like the blue of the top matches the blue of the bottoms, so don't worry about it. 

For ME (because I'm a bit of a dork) I'd go with the black top, just because I'd want to look ninja-stealthy like in all black.   Cool

How hot is the temp going to be on the bike and the run? You will look smokin' hot but feel smoking hot in all black, especially on the run. Probably okay for a sprint in early summer or early Fall but if temps are greater than 80F on the run, I would stick with the blue.
2013-06-28 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed
Originally posted by jogo
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by jogo
Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by 4agoodlife
Originally posted by jogo1st day of marathon training, 1st badge of honor.  I am graceful.  Fell on the treadmill during my personal training session with new trainer man. 
Photo: 1st day of marathon training, 1st battle wounds. It takes a special kind of person to wipe out on a treadmill during a personal training session.

Poor young piglet,  I was his 1st injury.  If there is no bone showing, keep going!!! Isn't that what we Manatees do?  Well it is what I did, at least. 

Ouch! ouch! ouch! but way to HTFU and show the new boy what a manatee is made of! :D
Wow. Damn, that looks like it hurts Are those like treadmill burns? Fachmie. That makes my skin hurt just looking at it. Supr

Yes, treadmill burns.  So this is the story:  "we are going to finish our session with some speed work.  I am going to set the treadmill at 7mph and you are going to jump on for 100m then jump to the side for 50m and take total rest then repeat.  1st jump on did not go well.  When I fell, I grabbed the top of the treadmill not to get launched but the mill was still turning.  He was yelling at me to let go and I yelled at him to press the stop button.  I let go because he was not stopping so the bloody one is the result of the launch on to the rug.  The others are just treadmill burns.  My DNA is definitely on that belt.  I couldn't find a comfortable sleeping spot last night but other than the sting of the burn, it won't stop me!!   I am a MANATEE!!!  Fachmie!

Oh for fach's sake!  That sounds horrible.  Do we trust this young piglet?

If you ever want to try the jumping to the side of the moving treadmill thing again--which, quite frankly, I wouldn't blame you ONE BIT for not wanting to ever do again--I put my hands on the rails while getting on and off and I keep my hands on the rails (suspending a bit of my weight with my arms) while I take the first five or six strides back into the run. 

That looks like it FACHING HURTS.  I'm sorry you had bad sleep last night:/ I'm glad that it's "merely" a flesh wound, and you don't have torn ligaments or anything.  Cripes!  Take care of you.  Hugs.

Yes, actually I do still trust him.  This was a mistake and after my last training experience I didn't speak up.  I really like this piglet and up until now he has been so great at explaining things and working to improve my strength for running specifically.  When he told me what to do, I thought he was crazy and thought I am totally going to kill myself doing this.  I didn't say anything, trying to be an obedient client.   I should have.  The Mama Hen voice inside my head was saying, never get on a moving treadmill. 

I probably would've done okay with my arms on the side bars but he had me put my hands on the middle HR bars to jump on.  I couldn't distribute my weight properly.   I bet he never has another client do that again.  He looked so frightened and freaked out after and felt so bad.  I know his intentions were good and he really would never try to hurt someone.  He is a treasure but we all make mistakes.  I hope this didn't frighten him off.  In 5 sessions with him, I have learned more and gotten so much stronger than I ever did with trainer idiot boy. 

I really should check youtube to see if I've gone viral.  I wonder if someone videoed.  America's Funniest Home Video's HERE I COME!! There were tons of people at the gym who witnessed this because we had awful storms last night.  Everyone was inside training.

Well ... I am glad you are alright.

Not sure how I feel about this jumping on and off speedwork shyte though. Ok, I am sure how I feel about it. That's a great way to get hurt. Not to mention, when does one ever laterally jump into a full speed sprint (which I assume 7 MPH to be for you, correct me if I am wrong) and then jump to the side? 

Salty, the thought that I am going to kill myself attempting this did cross my mind. I should have been firm but I am still getting to know the trainer and didn't want it to seem like I was questioning his judgement. My FAIL!
2013-06-28 12:24 PM
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2013-06-28 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl
Originally posted by Artemis

Manatees, I need fashion advice!  I bought these mostly black tri shorts.  Do I go with the black jersey or the blue jersey.  I'm leaning towards blue, but not sure if that would look weird.

jerseys

shorts

Ooooh - I like what you chose, and if you want to go with the blue - go for the blue!  It looks like the blue of the top matches the blue of the bottoms, so don't worry about it. 

For ME (because I'm a bit of a dork) I'd go with the black top, just because I'd want to look ninja-stealthy like in all black.   Cool

How hot is the temp going to be on the bike and the run? You will look smokin' hot but feel smoking hot in all black, especially on the run. Probably okay for a sprint in early summer or early Fall but if temps are greater than 80F on the run, I would stick with the blue.

That's my concern about the black.  I like how it will look, but I'm doing a tri in Virginia at the end of July, so it will be HOT.  The blue seems like a better decision for here.

Monica, the blue on the jersey does match the blue on the shorts.

2013-06-28 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by Artemis

Manatees, I need fashion advice!  I bought these mostly black tri shorts.  Do I go with the black jersey or the blue jersey.  I'm leaning towards blue, but not sure if that would look weird.

jerseys

shorts

I like the blue top.  I would overheat like crazy in all black.
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I do like the blue. But I like the matchiness (is that a word?) of the black.  Plus, it's supposed to be wicking/cooling and has sun protection built in.  I know, I know....triathlon first-world problems.

 

ETA: this is their description of the black fabric "ColdBlack is a built-in technology that makes a dark fabric the same temperature as a white fabric and reduces perspiration by up to 58% while providing 50+ UPF sun protection."

So maybe the black is ok?



Edited by Artemis 2013-06-28 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by Artemis I do like the blue. But I like the matchiness (is that a word?) of the black.  Plus, it's supposed to be wicking/cooling and has sun protection built in.  I know, I know....triathlon first-world problems. 

I do too, and as it turns out, we indeed live in the first world.



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2013-06-28 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by Artemis

I do like the blue. But I like the matchiness (is that a word?) of the black.  Plus, it's supposed to be wicking/cooling and has sun protection built in.  I know, I know....triathlon first-world problems.

 

ETA: this is their description of the black fabric "ColdBlack is a built-in technology that makes a dark fabric the same temperature as a white fabric and reduces perspiration by up to 58% while providing 50+ UPF sun protection."

So maybe the black is ok?

With modern materials, I think color is of little significance toward how hot one gets. Get the one that's most you and that's the one you'll race best in as it'll have you in the best state of mind.



2013-06-28 1:12 PM
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You could go a completely different way and get the yellow that matches the piping on the shorts.  The front is only OK but the back is really sharp.  My DH would like it because it would be easier to spot that the black top.

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You could go a completely different way and get the yellow that matches the piping on the shorts.  The front is only OK but the back is really sharp.  My DH would like it because it would be easier to spot that the black top.

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Ooh...that is neat! I like the back. Not sure how I feel about the yellow/green though.  I might order both and see which I like better once they are here.



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2013-06-28 1:36 PM
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You could go a completely different way and get the yellow that matches the piping on the shorts.  The front is only OK but the back is really sharp.  My DH would like it because it would be easier to spot that the black top.

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2013-06-28 1:48 PM
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Well ... I am glad you are alright.

Not sure how I feel about this jumping on and off speedwork shyte though. Ok, I am sure how I feel about it. That's a great way to get hurt. Not to mention, when does one ever laterally jump into a full speed sprint (which I assume 7 MPH to be for you, correct me if I am wrong) and then jump to the side? 

Yeah, it's a method for working with treadmills. From ones I've used they take so long to get up and down from speed when doing short higher intensity intervals it kind of messes things up. Might take a full minute to get all the way up to speed. A substantial part of 3-4 minute intervals let alone shorter things.

It should be more of a step on and off as opposed to an actual jump. I can't see how the middle bar is really that safe. Think I see what he's trying to do, but MUCH prefer to use side rails. One hand on each side, kind of like parallel bars. I can put my torso out in position over the belt and get my legs up to speed from there and put more weight on as I'm ready. There is virtually no side movement with that, or landing impact to work in either.

2013-06-28 1:52 PM
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I'm gonna start a fachmie it's friday poll about kit colors.  I've been wanting to for a while because I'm a dork like that.

Me?

I'm all black kit, all the time. 



2013-06-28 1:56 PM
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Well ... I am glad you are alright.

Not sure how I feel about this jumping on and off speedwork shyte though. Ok, I am sure how I feel about it. That's a great way to get hurt. Not to mention, when does one ever laterally jump into a full speed sprint (which I assume 7 MPH to be for you, correct me if I am wrong) and then jump to the side? 

Yeah, it's a method for working with treadmills. From ones I've used they take so long to get up and down from speed when doing short higher intensity intervals it kind of messes things up. Might take a full minute to get all the way up to speed. A substantial part of 3-4 minute intervals let alone shorter things.

It should be more of a step on and off as opposed to an actual jump. I can't see how the middle bar is really that safe. Think I see what he's trying to do, but MUCH prefer to use side rails. One hand on each side, kind of like parallel bars. I can put my torso out in position over the belt and get my legs up to speed from there and put more weight on as I'm ready. There is virtually no side movement with that, or landing impact to work in either.

Yeah, I understand the concept but I just don't really think it's appropriate in the given situation. 

2013-06-28 2:10 PM
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Kit poll created!  With a catchy TMBG song link to tempt you to go vote :)
2013-06-28 2:24 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by Artemis I do like the blue. But I like the matchiness (is that a word?) of the black.  Plus, it's supposed to be wicking/cooling and has sun protection built in.  I know, I know....triathlon first-world problems. 

I do too, and as it turns out, we indeed live in the first world.

If it weren't for first world tri problems there would be no BT. I like the black on black, but think the blue will look good too. Hope that helped
2013-06-28 2:32 PM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Racing Manatees!


June 29-30
Ben - Wisconsin Triterium sprint on Saturday
Tom - Mason Tri-umph on Sunday
Chad - Pacific Crest Oly on Sunday
TJ - Girls Just Wanna Have Fun TT on Sunday

Disabled list:
Mike - feet
JoGo - Faching treadmill...
Jo - under the weather
Yanti - fever


JoGo Challenge continues!
Log 'em!  Post 'em to JoGo's inspires at least once a week!  Look for the weekly report!

TdF Challenge - Come one come all!
http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=492754&page=1

Core Challenge - 100d x 10m = 1 strong core
http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=492917&page=1

Good thoughts for Kate's mom and her recovery from hip surgery!

Good thoughts for Mutti and her health!

Go Manatees!!!!!
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