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2006-02-08 7:27 AM
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dude your the kind of guy that make the rest of us guys look like ba_tards..... by the way congrats

hangloose - 2006-02-08 6:53 AM

I don't have any divorce statistics to back this up, but I would not be surprised if they were similar for people who married after a short period of time getting to know each other or a long period of time.  Lots of us have known people who dated for years but after they got married things changed and it didn't work out, right?  Dating longer is not necessarily an indicator that marriage will work. 

Your friend has to be committed to both the girl AND the institution of marriage for this one to work out, and so does she.  His track record suggests he is not.  It doesn't sound like a good idea to me but not because of the dating time frame, but his attitude towards marriage.  If there were extenuating circumstances like he was cheated on or abused or something then that changes things, I'm not trying to be insensitive here.  I just don't think enough people have respect for the work it takes to make a marriage last.

On my first date with my wife I knew I loved her.  After our second date I knew, I mean I KNEW I would marry her.  Two weeks later she moved in and 6 months later I proposed.  10 years, 3 houses, almost 3 kids (7 weeks left) and a billion "I love you's" later things are going great.



2006-02-08 8:03 AM
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ott13979 - 2006-02-08 7:27 AM

dude your the kind of guy that make the rest of us guys look like ba_tards..... by the way congrats

Nah, that would be my wife's cousins hubby.  He once had a candlelight dinner prepared by a cook, at their house, and hired a string quarted to play while they ate.  For no special occassion on a weeknight.  How am I supposed to compete with that?  I'm trying to squeeze out $20 to order a Road ID!

Women say it's not the $$$, it's the thought.  But having the $$$ makes the thinking a lot easier!

 

 

2006-02-08 8:04 AM
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NOW we're talkin.  He's working the 'buffet for life' angle.  That's got merit.  When's the next pepperoni coming out?!

ott13979 - 2006-02-08 7:32 AM

She is 26 and works at Pizza Hut.... and she does not own the Pizza Hut

T in Liberty Lake - 2006-02-07 6:02 PM Is number 3 26 and rich or just 26?

2006-02-08 8:20 AM
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Subject: RE: Marriage Engagement after 3.5 weeks???
Well let me just say I don't think it's always a smart thing to get married so quickly. But we have to remember there is always exceptions to the rule. People who date for 2+ years still get divorced.

I met my wife, (knew her a little) and we dated for a week..yes a week and got engaged. We then got married three weeks later. This was more with not having to deal with both sides of the family being annoying more than being in a hurry. We kind of half eloped. Anyways, 3 years and 2 kids later we couldn't be happier. I can honestly say we love each other more and more as time passes.

I will also say that we are some of the lucky few who this works for.
2006-02-08 8:35 AM
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I'm not sure that it's so much how long you've known someone as how committed you are to the idea of being married.  If they really want to make it work, they can make it work.  If they aren't committed to making it work, it won't.  I don't understand people who don't think that marriage is work.  It's not always easy and it's not always fun...sometimes it's just hard work.  If you aren't prepared to do the work, it just can't work out in the long run.
2006-02-08 8:41 AM
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Some people just want to get married.

One of our local docs was like that when he first moved here right out of residency. Every day he'd ask me "who's THAT?" about at least 2 or 3 girls. He'd ask them out, they'd say no. The last girl he asked me about was someone I knew through working with her dad. I told him the last conversation I had with her she spent 30 minutes telling me about how she's trying to find a doctor who can get her meds right to control her bi-polar disorder and that they haven't been right since she moved here from another town where she had been working as a......."dancer".

They were enganged three weeks later, married five weeks after they met. He's now working 6 or 7 days a week in three different hospital ER's and she's wearing $500+ business suits for her part-time job copying patient medical records.

Some people just want to get married....



2006-02-08 12:29 PM
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ChipmunkHeart - 2006-02-07 6:06 PM

Well, yeah, everything I wrote aside, some people are flipping morons.

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And I know who they are. I have a list.

2006-02-08 12:33 PM
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I say "he" should go for it. What the hell, right? All things being equal, there's a better than fair chance it won't work anyway, regardless of the circumstances. So why think that a little thing like how long the pre-engagement period is effectively going to make the probablility of it working out or not any greater.

Hmmm...this calls for some multi-variate regression analysis...

2006-02-08 12:58 PM
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2006-02-08 1:23 PM
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Just did.... the Loveboat is about to set sail.... But he did give me some advice that made me think he is in some rough waters... he told me "stick with working out, running, riding, and leave women alone" You know for now I'm going to take him up on that advice, I'm only 32 and I've got some big dreams that don't include the female gender..... but sometimes I think it would be nice to have a female friend (and when I say friend that is a non-sexual relationship.... sex w/friends just messes things up.... plus for me sex outside marriage isn't a good choice).... before I got married I had this friend who just happened to be a pretty girl. The relationship was great, neither of us dated each other in a romantic setting, nor did we really date others (not that we couldn't... we just never did) the relationship was great until I got married and my wife put a stop to it... Now I long to have a relationship like that back....

Lara - 2006-02-08 12:58 PM

So have you talked to him recently??  Is he making the biggest mistake of his life a decision that will sit well with him?   

I've been extra judgemental and b*tchy for a few weeks..  Sorry

2006-02-08 1:34 PM
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2006-02-08 1:50 PM
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Subject: RE: Marriage Engagement after 3.5 weeks???
I don't see a big problem with the 3.5 week thing, but just from what you've said it seems like he could have met a metal pole and proposed to it. Sounds more like a rebound/don't want to be alone thing would be more worrying. Obviously I don't know your friend so I could hopefully be wrong but it sounds like both of them are just jumping into this to fill a void without taking the time to see if the other person is the right person to fill it. But hopefully it will work out ok for them.

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2006-02-08 7:19 PM
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I hear what hangloose is saying, but there's something to be said about the statistics of the situation. The ratio of short-term relationships that don't work out to long-term has got to be seriously skewed. Sure, a relationship might change after dating for 4 years, but compare that to someone you met 4 months ago...

I'm not a bitter divorcee and I still always take a skeptical view on things like this. I say "I don't think it's gonna work, that's my advice, do what you wanna do, good luck, and make sure I'm not the one you cry to if it doesn't work out, because I will say I told you so."

Wait, what do you mean I sound exactly like a bitter divorcee? I'm not!
2006-02-09 2:34 AM
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Not a fan of fast track relationships. I had one of those before I met my husband. Thankfully it ended very badly or I would have been divorced with kids probably. I like the "why rush it?" mantality. After 12 years with my husband I am STILL learning stuff about him, some good, some not-so-good. Recently, for example, I learned that DH is a math savant. I always knew he was good with math and numbers but he does freaky math in his head. I still use my fingers (I have other talents), so this wildly impresses me. When we celebrated our 5 year anniversary I told my DH that if the next 5 years were going to be as hard as the first 5 years, then we were getting divorced. We're not getting divorced. Hopefully your friend wises up!
2006-02-09 8:41 AM
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listen Goodzen..... your so bitter that your not even aware that your bitter Laughing.... Get some miles in this weekend...

 

 Go Team Kansas

goodzen - 2006-02-08 7:19 PM I hear what hangloose is saying, but there's something to be said about the statistics of the situation. The ratio of short-term relationships that don't work out to long-term has got to be seriously skewed. Sure, a relationship might change after dating for 4 years, but compare that to someone you met 4 months ago... I'm not a bitter divorcee and I still always take a skeptical view on things like this. I say "I don't think it's gonna work, that's my advice, do what you wanna do, good luck, and make sure I'm not the one you cry to if it doesn't work out, because I will say I told you so." Wait, what do you mean I sound exactly like a bitter divorcee? I'm not!

2006-02-09 8:54 AM
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I did leave out one small detail to all of this… as of late I’ve decided to stop giving my personal opinion and just tell him what he wants, because one he isn’t going to change his mind regardless of my rambling diatribes of why this is stupid. Another reason is that he has hinted around that the wedding is going to be “destination wedding” to the Virgin Islands….  So I’m evil… If I continue the badgering he may rip away my chances at a lounge chair, Corona w/lime, and a big boat… so I shall now hang my head in shame.

 



2006-02-09 9:19 AM
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2006-02-09 11:22 AM
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I met my husband on my 30th birthday and asked him to move in with me 2 weeks later - even though I had been breaking hearts for 5 single years, with zero interest in being in a relationship (whoever says only women want relationships is lying - every guy I ever dated wanted one).   What can I say?  I met him and it was unlike anything I ever  thought was possible to find in another person. 

Ten years later, I finally married him!  Can't figure out if that means I am for rushing, or for waiting?   So here we are, 12 1/2 years later, still hanging in there and enjoying it, oh, probably 90% of the time.  Probably because we're both stubborn and wanted to beat the statistic that says we had about a .0000000001 chance of making it!  If you get divorced, you're a common statistic.  If you stay together, and are happy to do what it takes to make it work instead of bailing at the first sign of trouble, you're a great love story.  I know which I'd rather be.

 

 

2006-02-09 11:29 AM
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Tania... thats a good story.... now about the part of "breaking hearts for 5 single years" come on now you didn't get your heart broken in those 5 years??

 

 

Tania - 2006-02-09 11:22 AM

I met my husband on my 30th birthday and asked him to move in with me 2 weeks later - even though I had been breaking hearts for 5 single years, with zero interest in being in a relationship (whoever says only women want relationships is lying - every guy I ever dated wanted one).   What can I say?  I met him and it was unlike anything I ever  thought was possible to find in another person. 

Ten years later, I finally married him!  Can't figure out if that means I am for rushing, or for waiting?   So here we are, 12 1/2 years later, still hanging in there and enjoying it, oh, probably 90% of the time.  Probably because we're both stubborn and wanted to beat the statistic that says we had about a .0000000001 chance of making it!  If you get divorced, you're a common statistic.  If you stay together, and are happy to do what it takes to make it work instead of bailing at the first sign of trouble, you're a great love story.  I know which I'd rather be.

 

 

2006-02-09 12:21 PM
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ott13979 - 2006-02-09 11:29 AM

Tania... thats a good story.... now about the part of "breaking hearts for 5 single years" come on now you didn't get your heart broken in those 5 years??

Actually, there was ONE time, about 3 years before I met my husband, when I did actually get my heart broken. It was someone that I had known and idolized from the "cool" crowd back when I was in high school, so in retrospect of course, I know that was a large part of the appeal.  I did not get my heart broken because he dumped me, I got my heart broken when I realized he had not matured on iota from the time he was 17 years old and that there was simply no point in continuing the relationship.  Even though I was never at any time thinking marriage, sometimes you can just see that something is not good for you.  So sad , but of course it worked out for the best, as things generally do. 

Don't get me wrong, it's not that I'm some big heart breaker, it's just that my first long term relationship (from 19-24) was an abusive situation, and I was so GLAD to be free and single, I  was never in a hurry to be in another relationship.  I was enjoying my heard earned independence and self worth.  Gladly, I found someone who helped me see being in a relationship didn't mean giving up either one of those things.

2006-02-09 12:58 PM
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Isn't marriage really a crapshoot?  During the dating phase, everyone has their Eddie Haskell side to em that puts on a shiny veneer to everything they do.  You might not find out for years and years what you truly married.  So does that mean its worth waiting?  I guess that would depend on how lucky you feel for one and also on what your vision of marriage is.  For some, it is a nice party that their friends can party and do the chicken dance at and well, its not permanent or anything.  But if it is meant to be a life long endeavor, it might be worth kicking the tires a bit longer.  Some folks have proven it works to do it after a short period and their marriage is no better or worse than those that waited, so long as both parties develop the skills or have the maturity to make a marriage work.  It really depends more on what marriage means to the people and how much they respect the bond.  Spin the wheel I say, cuz ya might not get the whole truth even in waiting years and years (just maybe a better look at the true person).

For the record, I lucked out.  Not sure why my wife kept me around sometimes before the wedding, but I try and work to make her never regret it.  Oh well. 



2006-02-09 2:24 PM
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He's going thru middle life thing- and he's in love because she is 26 year old... Isn't like a Tom Cruise thing?????
2006-02-10 2:26 AM
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Just my two cents here...

I met my husband at a party....we went on a date....9 days later we moved in together. Started talking marriage a few weeks later, but decided to wait so we could have the big wedding for the families. We're both completely crazy...bipolar disorder, anxiety, narcolepsy, the works. I guess we figured individually we were so broken that we have to go to therapy anyway, so why not take the plunge? I mean, we have a huge network of professionals helping us through everything.

I guess my point is, with relationships, you truly never know what is going on inside. There is no way to know what kind of dynamic, expectations, or feelings are being foisted around between two people. There are plenty who think that my marriage is picture perfect, and boy are they wrong! So maybe there's something beneath the surface....maybe this girl is this guys ticket to happiness, in some weird, unexplainable way.

I don't know, I'm just the girl who married some kid from a terrible party, who never thought she'd get married at all. Some days I wish I never met this guy, and some days I thank God more than I can remember. Life is complicated, and just because people find love doesn't mean we've found the magic elixir of life. Making a marriage work has nothing to do with how well you know a person, and everything to do with how well both parties can communicate, and how much each person is willing to invest.

Again, just my long winded (and influenced by too much cold medicine) $.02.
2006-02-10 6:21 AM
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vmr719 - 2006-02-07 6:22 PM

And yes, living through one menstrual cycle is the bare minimum. And seeing her really sick; brings out the best and worst in people.



i think this applies to everyone. for us, we lived through bill getting spinal meningitis (very scary), spinal taps and all...and me breaking and dislocating my elbow. granted, the latter does not involve sickness, really, but how's this - the day after my surgery, my mom and then boyfriend bill helped give me a bath. yup, nothing solidifies a relationship more than being on pain killers, helpless and naked in front of the person you love AND your mom!
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