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2007-01-31 3:40 PM
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Subject: RE: My son has been ID'ed as "Gifted" by his school
Had the same with my youngest. When he was in grade 1, he was tested and was reading at grade 7 level and his reading comprehension was at grade 5 level. (I was impressed but, as he went through those grades and I became aware of the actual standards, it became apparent that this is not as great a compliment as it seemed at the time!) I had the option of putting him in some 'gifted' classes but, after meeting with those teachers and students, I decided against it. I did not get the impression that they were allowing the kids to actually have any fun and, my God, they were just kids! As 'gifted' as he was then, he is still that way now that he is almost 15. He is a great student (just loves to learn things), is a voracious reader and, if I do say so myself, an excellent writer. He plays hockey and soccer and while not a great athlete, he certainly is a 'good' athlete. Did I make the best choice? I guess I will never know, but I do know that if you are faced with that option, you should look at the program very closely.


2007-01-31 3:46 PM
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Subject: RE: My son has been ID'ed as "Gifted" by his school
When my 10 year-old daughter was in kindergarten, she was deemed gifted. (this wasn't much of surprise to us, you used to read to her classmates in pre-school). The decision was made to shift her up to 1st grade right away. We were really worried about her social skills/maturity. That turned out not to be a problem at all. What has been frustrating is the utter lack of gifted programs in the school system. In fact, about a year after this, the gifted/talented coordinator for elementary schools was cut. We have really had to push to make sure her needs are being met. It is a challenge, but a good challenge to have.
2007-01-31 3:46 PM
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2007-01-31 4:04 PM
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Subject: RE: My son has been ID'ed as "Gifted" by his school
Lara - 2007-01-31 2:04 PM
Bluejack - 2007-01-31 12:00 PM

Just personal experience with being an utter supra genius.

then how exactly did you end up at the VA????? 

Merely jockeying for position once President Clinton makes us the core of our national healthcare system.  (Eegad! I'm in the middle of a hijack!)



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2007-01-31 4:14 PM
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2007-01-31 4:18 PM
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Subject: RE: My son has been ID'ed as "Gifted" by his school

I was put in a "gifted and talented" program in elementary school.  I think the best part about it for me was not having to be insecure about being a little further along intellectually than some of my classmates.  I had some classes that were with the rest of the kids in my grade, and, if you were someone who knew the answers a lot or knew how to pronounce the big words or whatever, you could expect a certain amount of abuse (yes, even in third grade).  I didn't have it as bad as some others, because I played sports too, but I really liked not having to pretend that I hated to read or that I thought school was stupid.  Having experienced both, I think it's better to have the kids who have been identified as being a little further ahead of their peers be able to learn together at their pace in a special age-appropriate program, rather than trying to, for example, stick a first grader who's especially good at math into a third-grade math class. 

(and BTW, I'm just like your son in terms of dexterity.  Write, eat, and play pool lefty, but I'm a righty in every sport. My handwriting was always my one bad grade, too.  And now I'm a serial killer.  But I'm sure your son will be fine. )



2007-01-31 4:19 PM
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2007-01-31 4:37 PM
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Subject: RE: My son has been ID'ed as "Gifted" by his school

Maybe I should have paid a little more attention in my gifted classes, but I am confused and have a few questions for you:

  1. What's your question?
    You "supposably" have a kid that might be gifted and the school wants to test him to see if they can put him in a class that will challenge him at a more appropriate level. What's the issue?
    Do you really want to know what we think or did you just want to tell us that you have a gifted kid?
  2. You have a daughter that is afraid to go to the bathroom because you have picture on the wall that scares her. You won't take the picture down, why???
    To toughen her up?
    or
    If she pees her pants enough times that will "teach" her not to be afraid?

I don't get it

2007-01-31 4:37 PM
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2007-01-31 4:42 PM
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2007-01-31 4:42 PM
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2007-01-31 4:51 PM
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Subject: RE: My son has been ID'ed as "Gifted" by his school
Well, consider yourselves lucky to have a "gifted and talented" program in the public schools.  Pretty much statewide they've been eliminated, due to lack of funding.  So now people with $$ hire private tutors for their smart kids (my son's friend in second grade was learning square roots in his extra "math class", or send them to private schools,  while those without the financial means are stuck in regular ed classes.
2007-01-31 5:11 PM
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Subject: RE: My son has been ID'ed as "Gifted" by his school

Take the damn picture down!

Your children's lives are being majorly disrupted by your divorce. This threatens their sense of security. Is it too much to make her feel just a little safer in her own home by taking the picture out of the bathroom?



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2007-01-31 7:04 PM
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Subject: RE: My son has been ID'ed as "Gifted" by his school

eh, changed my mind



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2007-01-31 9:19 PM
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Subject: RE: My son has been ID'ed as "Gifted" by his school
I was in the GT program starting in the 2nd grade, and took advanced stuff until high school, when I rebelled by avoiding school like the plague. I started early enough that I didn't think any differently of it, and didn't realize there was anything special about it. And I think that's what's best. Smart kids shouldn't be treated like smart kids, they should just be challenged, and gifted programs generally do a good job of that.

Bear in mind of course, that I was a gifted child and all that....
I barely passed high school (too busy kissing guys and skipping classes)
Dropped out of college three times (and lost scholarships at 3 schools)
And have no clue what I'm doing with my life. Just saying, gifted kids can be very gifted at screwing up as well. Be prepared for the worst and pray very hard for the best.
2007-01-31 9:49 PM
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Subject: RE: My son has been ID'ed as "Gifted" by his school
Lara - 2007-01-31 4:19 PM
Bluejack - 2007-01-31 2:04 PM
Lara - 2007-01-31 2:04 PM
Bluejack - 2007-01-31 12:00 PM

Just personal experience with being an utter supra genius.

then how exactly did you end up at the VA????? 

Merely jockeying for position once President Clinton makes us the core of our national healthcare system.  (Eegad! I'm in the middle of a hijack!)

that's a pretty big risk..  i don't think we'll see national healthcare for another 20 years min.

I was joking.  But I'll put it this way: Private Practice 80-100 hours per week and 300-350k.  VA 40-60  hours per week,residents and 200k.  And one federal holiday a month.  See where the supra genius comes in?



2007-01-31 10:06 PM
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Subject: RE: My son has been ID'ed as "Gifted" by his school
I was in gifted ed all through school and I'm in an honors track at my university, too. Problem with gifted kids is that they KNOW they're gifted. They've got to be super self motivated and challenged by teachers, otherwise they turn...well, sarcastic. I've told the story of our 11th grade honors class turning in 50 some odd standardized test essays about how standardized testing is a waste of time, money and energy. Things like that. We get creatively into trouble. But gifted ed was great for both my brother and I. My brother graduated college with a 4.0, I'm getting out of here with a 3.9, neither of us have been arrested (nearly, but not fully), not in any sort of trouble...in both of our high schools, we would have been left behind had we not gone to gifted classes. Much smaller classes, more personal attention, more special resources to get into college and things like that.
2007-01-31 11:14 PM
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DerekL - 2007-01-31 12:03 PM So who's his real dad?

Dangit!! Beat me to the punch.  When I read the title of this thread and saw who started it, this is EXACTLY what I thought!

Brilliant minds... 

2007-02-01 6:50 AM
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Subject: RE: My son has been ID'ed as "Gifted" by his school

I would have given up plenty of my wonderful gifted education classes if I could have had a better social life. Half that crap I never used and a date or two would have been great in high school instead of constantly being driven and doing 4-5 hours of homework a night.

[My, that is fairly bitter.]



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2007-02-01 8:28 AM
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Subject: RE: My son has been ID'ed as "Gifted" by his school

Scott, my advice on how to handle it is to simply continue accepting your son just as he is. Take much care not to give the impression that your affection or approval is based upon how he tests. 

Children develop critical thinking skills at around age 7, so I wonder why they recommend testing him now?

[And take down that damn picture in the bathroom.]



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2007-02-01 8:40 AM
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Renee - 2007-02-01 9:28 AM

Children develop critical thinking skills at around age 7, so I wonder why they recommend testing him now?

I was tested at age 6.  My teacher suggested it.  She thought I had a learning disability.  Turns out I was just really bored.

My personal experience with being termed "gifted" is that it's not much of a gift at all.  In fact, it made my life He!!.  I got nothing out of it at all, other than labels and resentment. 

2007-02-01 8:44 AM
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2007-02-01 8:48 AM
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Subject: RE: My son has been ID'ed as "Gifted" by his school
Scout7 - 2007-02-01 9:40 AM
Renee - 2007-02-01 9:28 AM

Children develop critical thinking skills at around age 7, so I wonder why they recommend testing him now?

I was tested at age 6.  My teacher suggested it.  She thought I had a learning disability.  Turns out I was just really bored.

Heh. The exact same thing happened to me when I was 7. It went quickly from "she's a " to "we can SAVE her!"

2007-02-01 9:08 AM
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Subject: RE: My son has been ID'ed as "Gifted" by his school
spokes - 2007-02-01 9:44 AM

Thank you. That was my plan, my intention in putting up this thread was to see 'what to expect' as gifted programs/testing varies widely from state to state. The form has been sent in OK'ing testing. We'll see what happens.

Yes, programs and testing do vary widely from state to state. The best source of information for you is your child's school. 

  • Does his school offer a gifted program (if his test results are high enough)?
  • Is there a different class within his current school that he can get into?
  • Find out what the school can do for him, besides just offer a test result.
  • Encourage him in his interests - but don't try to push him. Common sense stuff, ya know?
  • Don't abdicate decisions to the teacher/school. You need to weigh all of his needs, not just his intellectual needs, when deciding what is best for him.

My 8YO nephew just tested at the 9th grade reading level.  Last school year, the teacher recommended that his parents allow them to have him skip a grade. Naturally, they (and I) are delighted that he doesn't struggle with reading or math but they decided not to have him skip a grade. He is a bright little kid but he's still an 8YO kid and, although he plays with kids older than him in his neighborhood, he would be overwhelmed in a class full of 9 and 10 YOs. So, instead, he gets to go to their class just for reading and returns to his class for the rest of his studies.  I tell you this to give an example that you have to consider your child's WHOLE self, not just the intellectual.

All kids have one issue or another to contend with - being brainy is no silver bullet and your son will still need your support, understanding and patience.

The picture is in their mothers house. I've asked her to take it down... but I can't force her to do so. Its an art print of a young woman sitting down, with a bare back and a towel wrapped around here. In my view as an adult, pretty benign...

Well the problem is that it is being viewed in HER view as a child. Maybe you can ask your son how to solve the problem?

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