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Am I A Triathlete?
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Yes You Competed, and DNF'ed Due To mechanical Reasons
No You Have Not Completed A Triathlon
Yes, you started the race.
I get up in the dark to spend my day with thousands of people I don't know
Yes since you swim, bike and run
training for a triathlon
I yam what I yam
Your well on your way... next race you'll make it official.
yes, i finished more than 2 races.

2008-10-13 2:13 PM
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I completed an olympic in 2004. I considered myself a triathlete at that time. However, residency started and for the last 4 years my exercising has been minimal. I'm starting to train again, but I have a real hard time calling myself a triathlete until I complete another, just been too long. I can see it though, and I'm reeling it in.


2008-10-13 2:34 PM
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There's no doubt that you will be a triathlete and your experience and frustration is a temporary setback which will make your triathlon completion that much sweeter!

That being said, it's just a title.

2008-10-13 2:49 PM
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JeepFleeb - 2008-10-12 6:08 PM

You didn't complete the course so you're not a triathlete.... yet.  You learned your lesson about spare tubes so you'll be prepared next time and you'll get there.

Finishing a tri gives you the title of 'triathlete' for 1 year.
Finishing an Ironman gives you the title of 'triathlete' for life.



Agreed. Although there always needs to be some recognition for the hard work you did and we all know you'll go get another race.
2008-10-13 3:02 PM
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This question has been asked in many forms, so I'll answer as I have in the past.

Do you think you're a triathlete?

 That's all that really matters... If i were in your shoes, I personally would answer that question, "No."

 But if you are comfortable labeling yourself a triathlete, and are confident in telling everyone you know that you are, I would say that you are in-fact a triathlete.  Having not yet competed, my answer is worth a grain of salt, but likewise, the answer to this question is extremely subjective, and can only be answered by you.

2008-10-13 3:05 PM
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How often and it what venue does this title even come up? I mean, you are what you are and you do what you do, right? If you never race again, then you are probably not a triathlete. If you do race again, then you will inevitably be a triathlete. So for now, consider it purgatory. But I would venture a guess it won't come up in any job interviews and not that many casual conversations.

You are not doing this to earn a title, right?

BTW, I suspect pure cyclists might "accuse" you of being a triathlete for not having had a spare tube.
2008-10-13 5:11 PM
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My first flat with my road bike happened during my 2nd sprint tri, which was to be my A race. First, I was incredulous that I heard hissing and that I was getting a flat...now. After removing the tire and tube, I snapped off the valve on the new tube while pumping it up with a hand pump, so I knew I was finished; race over for me. A friend talked me into doing another sprint the following weekend, so that I at least have an event I can finish. Ended up completing 3 sprints this year. So I recovered from the stupid flat. No matter what we tell you, you probably won't consider yourself a triathlete until you complete an event. Some of us, myself included, still find it slightly uncomfortable calling ourselves triathletes even after finishing one or more events. I even stop for a second before responding to people who ask if I'm a runner. Honestly, with all the time and effort you have devoted to the sport, I have no problem with you calling yourself a triathlete, and you shouldn't have a problem with that either. You will finish many triathlons in the near future.


2008-10-14 9:29 AM
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I also recently completed my first sprint tri this past year and am a little uneasy to call myself a traithlete...yet. I think it takes at least a full season of competing and a committment to training and becoming better at all three disciplines before you can consider yourself a triathlete. Basically once you have adopted the lifestyle and proved that you can compete then you are a triathlete...

 Here is my second train of thought. You are out there competing against people from all walks of life. You have the hardcore who train every day, the sacrifice themselves to the sport. They spit, puke, pee on themselves so that they can achieve the greatest level of success possible. Then you have those who compete (much like myself) purely for the pleasure of doing something they never thought possible. Just crossing that finish line is enough to enable them to call themselves a triathlete.

 Its just a label. If you think you trained hard, and competed at a level that was satisfactory to your overall plan, then sure go ahead a label yourself. But you may want to wait until you have finished a race and are truly happy with your results before you place that label upon yourself.

2008-10-14 6:48 PM
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I would love to see someone screwing a can of fix-a-flat onto a tire during a race, thats good stuff!!
2008-10-14 6:59 PM
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I'm a 7 time marathon and 2 time ironman finisher - all in the last 4 years.  Some call me an athlete, some call me insane.

But it is better to me to be called a Father, a Loving Husband and an Architect.

Labels don't mean anything really.

2008-10-14 7:24 PM
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All the honeys label me as sexy, I kinda like that label!!
2008-10-14 10:32 PM
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jsklarz - 2008-10-13 1:37 PM

 For me, I'm just a fat guy who found out that running, swiming and biking make me less fat and are not as boring as doing only one. 

Awesome!!!

For me:  I'm just an out of shape, 41-year old, stressed-out, sick chick who figured out that running, swimming & biking could turn her into an in-shape, 41-year old, chilled out, healthy chick as long as I keep moving!!!

Oh, & by the way...I stopped whining all the time!

 



2008-10-14 10:39 PM
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hmmmm, I'm still waiting for tri training to make me chill out and stop whining.  Maybe next year!!
2008-10-15 3:18 AM
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No matter what we tell you, you probably won't consider yourself a triathlete until you complete an event.

I love this line. Heard it so many times, in so many ways. No, you will likely consider yourself whatever the heck you WANT to consider yourself, regardless of what we tell you!

Personally, I'm in the "competing is icing on the cake" category. I was no more and no less of a triathlete at 12:00 p.m. July 5th than I was at 8:00 a.m. July 5th. What difference did that morning make to my overall sense of accomplishment? It was the thirteen WEEKS leading up to it that made the difference, not a few hours. Sure, I was really freaking happy that my training had paid off, allowing me to finish and finish well, but nothing that happened in that first race negated or confirmed the work I had done leading up to it.

Triathletes, IMHO, put WAY too much emphasis on competition. For a sport - and a board - that tries to be so encouraging to beginners, we then tell them that they aren't good enough to be part of the clique until they cross some mysterious line, and we can't even tell them where that line is, but we'll sure as heck tell them when they haven't crossed it yet! Dude, you try, you tri. Good 'nuff.
2008-10-15 3:28 AM
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Slugger - 2008-10-15 3:18 AM
No matter what we tell you, you probably won't consider yourself a triathlete until you complete an event.
I love this line. Heard it so many times, in so many ways. No, you will likely consider yourself whatever the heck you WANT to consider yourself, regardless of what we tell you! Personally, I'm in the "competing is icing on the cake" category. I was no more and no less of a triathlete at 12:00 p.m. July 5th than I was at 8:00 a.m. July 5th. What difference did that morning make to my overall sense of accomplishment? It was the thirteen WEEKS leading up to it that made the difference, not a few hours. Sure, I was really freaking happy that my training had paid off, allowing me to finish and finish well, but nothing that happened in that first race negated or confirmed the work I had done leading up to it. Triathletes, IMHO, put WAY too much emphasis on competition. For a sport - and a board - that tries to be so encouraging to beginners, we then tell them that they aren't good enough to be part of the clique until they cross some mysterious line, and we can't even tell them where that line is, but we'll sure as heck tell them when they haven't crossed it yet! Dude, you try, you tri. Good 'nuff.

Hear, hear.

2008-10-15 5:41 PM
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the bear - 2008-10-12 9:47 AM

Is someone who competes but DNFs in a marathon called a marathoner?

Is someone who competes but DNFs in a 140.6 called an Ironman?

Better luck next time!

I agree.

Go get 'em next time.

(P.S I struggled with this when the Chicago Marathon was cut off last year... I got to mile 16... but I didn't finish a marathon. I participated in one. I couldn't (in my opinion) call myself a marathoner)

2008-10-15 5:57 PM
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the bear - 2008-10-12 9:47 AM

Is someone who competes but DNFs in a marathon called a marathoner?

Is someone who competes but DNFs in a 140.6 called an Ironman?

Better luck next time!



Tough call, but I think your intent matters here. You DNFed due to mechanical reasons, not because you wimped out or felt you just couldn't "keep going." I would give you probationary status as a triathlete. But you better not DNF the next one!

This just shows that I've been a lawyer waaay too long.


2008-10-15 6:40 PM
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Whizzzzz - 2008-10-15 3:41 PM
the bear - 2008-10-12 9:47 AM

Is someone who competes but DNFs in a marathon called a marathoner?

Is someone who competes but DNFs in a 140.6 called an Ironman?

Better luck next time!

I agree.

Go get 'em next time.

(P.S I struggled with this when the Chicago Marathon was cut off last year... I got to mile 16... but I didn't finish a marathon. I participated in one. I couldn't (in my opinion) call myself a marathoner)

I will have to agree as well.

But it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, do YOU feel like a triathlete?  You don't have to justify it to anyone but yourself.

At my first race, I had trained hard for 4 months, showed up, and they canceled the swim portion.  I was devistated.  They turned it into a bike/run, and I enjoyed that, but in my head, I had not accomplished it - I didn't consider myself a triathlete.

But tell you what, it made the next race I entered and finished, that much sweeter.

2008-10-15 6:43 PM
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sty - 2008-10-12 7:03 AM

FWIW, Chris McCormack DNF'd yesterday. He's still a triathlete. 

I'm guessing he finished one or two events before that though.  Perhaps more...

2008-10-15 6:56 PM
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Slugger - 2008-10-15 1:18 AM
No matter what we tell you, you probably won't consider yourself a triathlete until you complete an event.
I love this line. Heard it so many times, in so many ways. No, you will likely consider yourself whatever the heck you WANT to consider yourself, regardless of what we tell you! Personally, I'm in the "competing is icing on the cake" category. I was no more and no less of a triathlete at 12:00 p.m. July 5th than I was at 8:00 a.m. July 5th. What difference did that morning make to my overall sense of accomplishment? It was the thirteen WEEKS leading up to it that made the difference, not a few hours. Sure, I was really freaking happy that my training had paid off, allowing me to finish and finish well, but nothing that happened in that first race negated or confirmed the work I had done leading up to it. Triathletes, IMHO, put WAY too much emphasis on competition. For a sport - and a board - that tries to be so encouraging to beginners, we then tell them that they aren't good enough to be part of the clique until they cross some mysterious line, and we can't even tell them where that line is, but we'll sure as heck tell them when they haven't crossed it yet! Dude, you try, you tri. Good 'nuff.

Interesting thoughts..

So what if someone just thinks/dreams of doing a triathlon?  The motivation is there, are they triathletes?  What if the take the step to buy a bike and shoes.  Triathlete then?

You're sound critical of some people that say crossing a line, a mysterious line, makes them a triathlete, and you say that it's the training makes the triathlete.  Well, isn't that a "mysterious" line too, based on your perspective and opinion?  When does someone "train" for a triathlon compared to just bike or run for fun?

I find it interesting that you think that triathletes put WAY too much emphisis on competing.  Well, is that a surprise?  Is it WAY too much?  Every thing we do, the plans we follow, the equipment we buy, the questions we ask on BT, are based on doing an event.  If we don't have events/competition, all we are doing is working out, NOT training.  However, there is NOTHING wrong with that.  The working out is probably the most important aspect in terms of health and an enjoyable life....

It's all just labels.  Feel free to call yourself anything you want.

But I don't call myself a football player if I play with buddies out in a field.  I don't call myself a basketball player if I'm playing in the driveway.  I wouldn't call myself a triathlete if I'm just running and biking.  But if I compete, and do an event.  I would.  But that's me, and everyone has different standards and outlooks.  Which is a wonderful thing.

2008-10-16 2:37 AM
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So I was thinking about this, trying to clarify what I mean, and two of your posts come together nicely.

Aikidoman - 2008-10-15 7:40 PM

At my first race, I had trained hard for 4 months, showed up, and they canceled the swim portion. I was devistated. They turned it into a bike/run, and I enjoyed that, but in my head, I had not accomplished it - I didn't consider myself a triathlete.


See, I guess this is the thing for me: focusing on competition (which is different than competing, which I'll get to in a sec) means you are putting your own self-identification in the hands of others. I released the RDs of my first race from the obligation of confirming my self-identification. Had they dropped the swim I'd be pretty ticked, but that's because it is my best event! I'd still be a triathlete, though, because I had shot for the goal and made it, even if the goal line got moved in the end.

Aikidoman - 2008-10-15 7:56 PM
I find it interesting that you think that triathletes put WAY too much emphisis on competing. 

Ah, I see a difference between a focus on competing and competition. I'm splitting hairs, yes, but go with me here. If I were to get slammed in the head and wake up with the insane notion of doing an Ironman, I'd have to set out a date well over a year away (since many for next year are closed now). I would train my bloody body off in that year, immersing myself 100% in the triathlete lifestyle. It would be ALL about competing. When the big day finally came, if it got cancelled, I'd still be one he!! of a triathlete. Not an Ironman, no, but that is far more specific. See, I would have been focused on competing, thus putting me into a category above recreationalist, but the actual competition would become less important in self-identification.

And here we have come to the jogging versus running debate. I do think "triathlete" imparts the notion of training with a specific goal. But why does it matter what that particular goal is? Why does it matter if, after you've dedicated lo so many months to reaching your goal, some external factor well beyond your control changes the endgame?

I see a pretty big difference in responses, and I guess that is what chafes the most. I understand that some people, including the OP, want to know what the community thinks. Some in the community have said, "for me, I considered x, y, and z." But others have responded with, "for YOU, the rules are thus." That's a HUGE difference. That was the background to the "too much focus on competition" remark. I think everyone gets to the point where they feel they can rightly call themselves a triathlete, but that point isn't the same for everyone. For some, their point isn't until they sub-10 at Kona. For others, it is five weeks into their very first serious training program EVER, when they get to that first Idon'twanna stage and push through it. The sub-10s don't get to tell the first-timers they are any less worthy, no matter what their competition record, their athletic background (or lack of), their run times, or what kind of bike they ride.

No one has a monopoly on the line; if you don't feel you are there yet, keep tri-ing, and eventually you will cross your own personal line, and then you will be a triathlete.
2008-10-16 6:47 AM
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my $.02...which probably means zero to anyone else here...you trained, you prepared, but you also DNF.

there is no way i would call myself or anyone else a triathlete until i crossed the finish line.   

i might be opening a can of worms here, but i also don't consider someone who is part of a relay a triathlete either.   if you don't complete all three events, you aren't a triathlete.   sorry if that offends anyone.



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edit post, realized I was misreading earlier post

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the bear - 2008-10-12 10:47 AM

Is someone who competes but DNFs in a marathon called a marathoner?

Is someone who competes but DNFs in a 140.6 called an Ironman?

Better luck next time!

Agree 100%

There has to be a "line" that you "cross" when you "qualify" for any label.  For triathlons that line happens to be the finish line.

 

2008-10-16 9:21 PM
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Who cares?  You can be anything you want to be.  There is no certain criteria for being a triathlete other than training for the combination of these sports.  I have been a cyclist for years and today is my first day of training for the triathlon...I am now a triathlete, but I did stay in a Holiday Express last night too.

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2008-10-17 6:39 PM
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Well I rather thing about this than the issue at hand. 

I figure you are a triathlete when you cross that line.  Now if next year you train for an IM and only have the IM on your plate and are not able to finish it I would not go omg your not a triathlete because you could not finish a triathlon that year.

To me your a triathlete when you cross that line but you stay a triathlete as long as you live the lifestlye.  Maybe after 5 years without a race then maybe not your a triathlete anymore even if you are still training.  

 

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