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2010-05-24 7:59 AM
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The sideways world was really a "flash forward" to a time AFTER everyone died.  As Christian said some died before you some LONG after (Kate and Hurley and Ben and Aaron for example).

OK, thanks to you and others.  I missed this valuable point.  So, Jack died saving the island, Hurley and Ben may have worked together on the island for years for all we know.



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morey1 - 2010-05-24 8:59 AM

The sideways world was really a "flash forward" to a time AFTER everyone died.  As Christian said some died before you some LONG after (Kate and Hurley and Ben and Aaron for example).

OK, thanks to you and others.  I missed this valuable point.  So, Jack died saving the island, Hurley and Ben may have worked together on the island for years for all we know.

Exactly!  And Kate, Sawyer, Miles, Lapidus, and Clare MAY have made it off the island in that plane and lived long, happy lives....or the plane they tried to fix and fly off the island may have crashed and they all died right then.  That is where I'm torn.  I think they put that final scene showing the parts of the plane on the beach to leave it up for our interpretation.

2010-05-24 8:07 AM
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morey1 - 2010-05-24 8:59 AM

The sideways world was really a "flash forward" to a time AFTER everyone died.  As Christian said some died before you some LONG after (Kate and Hurley and Ben and Aaron for example).

OK, thanks to you and others.  I missed this valuable point.  So, Jack died saving the island, Hurley and Ben may have worked together on the island for years for all we know.

Remember Hurley saying to Ben outside the church, "You were a really good number 2" ...

2010-05-24 8:09 AM
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TriRSquared - 2010-05-24 8:46 AM

There seems to be a lot of different take son what was real, what was not etc...(not only here but in my "real world too )

Here is my take...

The island was real, they crashed (and lived) and went through all sorts of adventures.  When the H-bomb went off it moved the island back to present time but no one died (Juliet did but only after the bomb went off knocking them back to the present).

The sideways world was really a "flash forward" to a time AFTER everyone died.  As Christian said some died before you some LONG after (Kate and Hurley and Ben and Aaron for example).

Jack died on the island after laying down in the bamboo (great scene BTW, nice full circle).

The "sideways world" was a form of Purgatory where people have to work through their problems before "moving on".  I thought the multiple symbols in the stained glass was a bit cheesy (all the major religions represented).  Ben had issues to deal with and stayed behind.  Might explain why we never saw Michael either.  Purgatory is a traditionally a place to atone for your sins.  Both Ben & Michael had a LOT of attonment to deal with.  Of course Said did too but we could nit pick all day.

So if you consider it closely, the sideways world story line was really a denouement to the main story line.  SO if you take this into the consideration the REAL story line ends with Locke and Jack dying and Hurley taking over the island leaving a TON of unanswered questions. 

I almost do not want to focus on that too much because it makes the "real" story line pretty weak in it's ending.  Bad guy gets killed by good guy, good guy sacrifices himself for the good of others.

I liked the sideways world storyline it's just seems like it was totally unrelated now that we find out it's AFTER the events on the island.


BTW did you see the Target commercial with the smoke monster and smoke detector.  Laughed our butts off at that one.







That was my take, too.....
2010-05-24 8:10 AM
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morey1 - 2010-05-24 5:59 AM

[So, Jack died saving the island, Hurley and Ben may have worked together on the island for years for all we know.



Well Hurley could have been the protector for a very long time we do not know. He could have giving Ben "the touch" and both could have been there possibly hundreds of years.



I thought the episode was great but I am still undecided if I liked the whole sideways world was death. Kind of felt like a copout but like I said overall the series was great and the last episode was great, very touching.

  

2010-05-24 8:10 AM
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morey1 - 2010-05-24 8:59 AM

The sideways world was really a "flash forward" to a time AFTER everyone died.  As Christian said some died before you some LONG after (Kate and Hurley and Ben and Aaron for example).

OK, thanks to you and others.  I missed this valuable point.  So, Jack died saving the island, Hurley and Ben may have worked together on the island for years for all we know.

Exactly!  And Kate, Sawyer, Miles, Lapidus, and Clare MAY have made it off the island in that plane and lived long, happy lives....or the plane they tried to fix and fly off the island may have crashed and they all died right then.  That is where I'm torn.  I think they put that final scene showing the parts of the plane on the beach to leave it up for our interpretation.



The debris on the beach during the credits was from the initial Oceanic crash.  If you compare the pilot to this scene they are the same.


2010-05-24 8:11 AM
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hamiltks10 - 2010-05-24 8:54 AM

There were a few Target commercials....one with the keyboard and one showing a wild hog running through the woods.  Hilarious! 



Yeah.  Just thought the SM one was the best...
2010-05-24 8:13 AM
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Well, one thing is clear...it is over and we all still can't agree on what happened, when it happened or why. 

2010-05-24 8:20 AM
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morey1 - 2010-05-24 8:59 AM

The sideways world was really a "flash forward" to a time AFTER everyone died.  As Christian said some died before you some LONG after (Kate and Hurley and Ben and Aaron for example).

OK, thanks to you and others.  I missed this valuable point.  So, Jack died saving the island, Hurley and Ben may have worked together on the island for years for all we know.

Exactly!  And Kate, Sawyer, Miles, Lapidus, and Clare MAY have made it off the island in that plane and lived long, happy lives....or the plane they tried to fix and fly off the island may have crashed and they all died right then.  That is where I'm torn.  I think they put that final scene showing the parts of the plane on the beach to leave it up for our interpretation.



The debris on the beach during the credits was from the initial Oceanic crash.  If you compare the pilot to this scene they are the same.

Ok, I'll take that.  I'd rather think that they got off the island and were able to live long, happy lives.

2010-05-24 8:23 AM
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After last night concluded...it made me think that Desmond has been calling this the entire time when he was saying 'See you in another life Brutha.'


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megtrow - 2010-05-24 1:38 AM My initial reaction is not positive.  I feel really let down.  Which is really unfortunate, as I've been confident all along that the writers would really bring it for the finale and go out with a huge bang.

... I think I've just always been way too interested in the science side of this show than the faith side.  I've said all along that I hoped that it wasn't all a spiritual/religious/faith/purgatory/etc thing in the end.  
Boo.

(Maybe I'll be more satisfied with things after a night of sleep.  I'll report tomorrow.

Count my wife and I among those with you.  This ranks "up" there with the Dallas "dream" and St. Elsewhere's "Snow Globe."  A weak, cheap, easy cop out which tarnished the previous 6 years.  After season one everyone was speculating the island was some sort of limbo/purgatory and the writers insisted this was not the case.  Almost everything would be explained as being based in science they said.  Now we find out it WAS a type of purgatory and none of it was real?!  And despite their putting "multi denominational" symbols on their "church's" stain glassed window, I felt like I just had a Christian religious lesson rammed down my throat.  A totally unsatisfying ending to what I thought was one of the best shows on TV.  Thumbs DOWN!



Another thumbs down.  It felt like a complete cop-out.  And when the writers said they knew from the beginning what the final scene would be, maybe they should have filmed it then.  As it was, I was noticing all the people who WEREN'T in the chapel.  Like Mr. Ekko.  Who I am sure had other obligations in the real world that prevented them from coming back for a "reunion scene" that would air for maybe 10 minutes.  Much like Jack's plan to kill Smoke Locke, it felt like they were improvising and hoping it would all work out.  And like Jack's plan, it succeeded in that the primary goal was reached (Smokey is dead, the series is over); and yet the ending didn't seem to work out like they might have hoped (Jack ended up stabbed and then having to die; the series ending felt slapdash).  Even the Soprano's Black-out ending was better than this.

I complained to mrs gearboy for quite a while that I felt like I had wasted the last several years following this.  Maybe that's what the title refers to - the lost time wasted on this bloated junk.  They really should have created their arc and followed through with shorter series - one or maybe two seasons at most.
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TriathletePT - 2010-05-24 8:29 AM

So....who were The Others the whole time? Are they people who were also dead, but on the island as well? And what about Widmore? Whats his deal? He was no where to be found at the party.


I believe "The Others" were descendants of the people who crashed on the island with Jacob and MIB's bio-mom (assuming some of them survived "adoptive" mom's destruction of their village....

A few unanswered questions for me:

1) Who/what exactly was the Dharma initiative? How did they know about/find the island?
2) What exactly was Widmore's interest in controlling the island? Was he simply trying to make sure MIB never got off?
3) After MIB died, why did the island still need a "protector"?

Others will probably come to mind as I ponder further....
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megtrow - 2010-05-24 1:38 AM My initial reaction is not positive.  I feel really let down.  Which is really unfortunate, as I've been confident all along that the writers would really bring it for the finale and go out with a huge bang.

... I think I've just always been way too interested in the science side of this show than the faith side.  I've said all along that I hoped that it wasn't all a spiritual/religious/faith/purgatory/etc thing in the end.  
Boo.

(Maybe I'll be more satisfied with things after a night of sleep.  I'll report tomorrow.

Count my wife and I among those with you.  This ranks "up" there with the Dallas "dream" and St. Elsewhere's "Snow Globe."  A weak, cheap, easy cop out which tarnished the previous 6 years.  After season one everyone was speculating the island was some sort of limbo/purgatory and the writers insisted this was not the case.  Almost everything would be explained as being based in science they said.  Now we find out it WAS a type of purgatory and none of it was real?!  And despite their putting "multi denominational" symbols on their "church's" stain glassed window, I felt like I just had a Christian religious lesson rammed down my throat.  A totally unsatisfying ending to what I thought was one of the best shows on TV.  Thumbs DOWN!



No, it was not Purgatory.  The island was real, Sideways World was Purgatory.  It's an important distinction.
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megtrow - 2010-05-24 1:38 AM My initial reaction is not positive.  I feel really let down.  Which is really unfortunate, as I've been confident all along that the writers would really bring it for the finale and go out with a huge bang.

... I think I've just always been way too interested in the science side of this show than the faith side.  I've said all along that I hoped that it wasn't all a spiritual/religious/faith/purgatory/etc thing in the end.  
Boo.

(Maybe I'll be more satisfied with things after a night of sleep.  I'll report tomorrow.

Count my wife and I among those with you.  This ranks "up" there with the Dallas "dream" and St. Elsewhere's "Snow Globe."  A weak, cheap, easy cop out which tarnished the previous 6 years.  After season one everyone was speculating the island was some sort of limbo/purgatory and the writers insisted this was not the case.  Almost everything would be explained as being based in science they said.  Now we find out it WAS a type of purgatory and none of it was real?!  And despite their putting "multi denominational" symbols on their "church's" stain glassed window, I felt like I just had a Christian religious lesson rammed down my throat.  A totally unsatisfying ending to what I thought was one of the best shows on TV.  Thumbs DOWN!

Whaaaa???? I am a Christian, and the ending did not have any of this, that I could see. At best if we're talking religion, this was a Universalist ending - all roads lead to heaven, you don't have to really repent or anything to get there. You just have to be "ready". No talk of Jesus or anything, and He's pretty foundational if we're talking Christianity. At any rate, I liked the ending. I totally cried when Claire and Charlie found eachother....I love their story, and I love both of their characters. OK so I also cried about Sayid and whatever her name is too. I also thought it was so sweet when Kate told Claire that no one know how to be a parent, at least not at first.


Really?  I think it must be that because you ARE a christian, the symbolism is almost invisible to you - like asking a fish about the water.  I recall back in my HS English Lit class being enraged at how EVERYTHING we read had Christ analogies. 

But here you go:  The leader of the group takes on the the task of defeating the evil.  In the process, he gets wounded and then killed.  (Didn't you notice that he got stabbed in the side of the chest - like Christ was pierced by the soldier's lance?).  He gets killed but then is miraculously resurrected. He meets up with his father, who leads him back to his followers, before his father again goes back into the heavenly light, while the followers all sit and wait for something in the church.

It is hard to see it NOT in religous terms, and given the specifics, hard to see it as other than christian. Certainly not Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Sikh, Hindi, Wiccan, or animist in the imagery.
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TriathletePT - 2010-05-24 8:29 AM So....who were The Others the whole time? Are they people who were also dead, but on the island as well? And what about Widmore? Whats his deal? He was no where to be found at the party.
I believe "The Others" were descendants of the people who crashed on the island with Jacob and MIB's bio-mom (assuming some of them survived "adoptive" mom's destruction of their village.... A few unanswered questions for me: 1) Who/what exactly was the Dharma initiative? How did they know about/find the island? 2) What exactly was Widmore's interest in controlling the island? Was he simply trying to make sure MIB never got off? 3) After MIB died, why did the island still need a "protector"? Others will probably come to mind as I ponder further....


The island had a protector BEFORE the MIB.  The "mother" said that people would always come to the island in search of the light.  It stands to reason they would need a protector after the MIB was gone.

Widmore wanted the light for himself.

I see it is a "man is inherently evil/greedy"  Remember the conversation between Jacob and the MIB with the ship in the distance?  MIB said they come and destroy and it always ends the same.

I got wondering how "Chesty" (love that nickname) was going to land the plane.  What airport is going to let him land a plane that "crashed" and disappeared months ago? (yeah I know, picky picky)


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megtrow - 2010-05-24 1:38 AM My initial reaction is not positive.  I feel really let down.  Which is really unfortunate, as I've been confident all along that the writers would really bring it for the finale and go out with a huge bang.

... I think I've just always been way too interested in the science side of this show than the faith side.  I've said all along that I hoped that it wasn't all a spiritual/religious/faith/purgatory/etc thing in the end.  
Boo.

(Maybe I'll be more satisfied with things after a night of sleep.  I'll report tomorrow.

Count my wife and I among those with you.  This ranks "up" there with the Dallas "dream" and St. Elsewhere's "Snow Globe."  A weak, cheap, easy cop out which tarnished the previous 6 years.  After season one everyone was speculating the island was some sort of limbo/purgatory and the writers insisted this was not the case.  Almost everything would be explained as being based in science they said.  Now we find out it WAS a type of purgatory and none of it was real?!  And despite their putting "multi denominational" symbols on their "church's" stain glassed window, I felt like I just had a Christian religious lesson rammed down my throat.  A totally unsatisfying ending to what I thought was one of the best shows on TV.  Thumbs DOWN!



No, it was not Purgatory.  The island was real, Sideways World was Purgatory.  It's an important distinction.

That seems to be the interpretation SOME are coming to, but it is not 100% clear IMO.   If that IS the case, in many ways it makes it worse.  We have no answers to major questions and there are so many holes left open in the plot you could crash a jet through them.  ;-)  I don't need EVERYTHING answered for me, but c'mon.  We don't know what smokey was, we don't have answers about the #s, about Dharma/Hanso, Walt...the list goes on and on.  I saw a bit of Fox on Kimmel after the finale and they both said they felt Jack did die during the crash and the entire story was his "test." He could not "pass over" until he resolved his issues and "let go."  Who the heck knows?  I can handle some spirituality, but don't lead me around by the nose for six seasons and then leave me hanging on most of the major questions raised during that time.

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megtrow - 2010-05-24 1:38 AM My initial reaction is not positive.  I feel really let down.  Which is really unfortunate, as I've been confident all along that the writers would really bring it for the finale and go out with a huge bang.

... I think I've just always been way too interested in the science side of this show than the faith side.  I've said all along that I hoped that it wasn't all a spiritual/religious/faith/purgatory/etc thing in the end.  
Boo.

(Maybe I'll be more satisfied with things after a night of sleep.  I'll report tomorrow.

Count my wife and I among those with you.  This ranks "up" there with the Dallas "dream" and St. Elsewhere's "Snow Globe."  A weak, cheap, easy cop out which tarnished the previous 6 years.  After season one everyone was speculating the island was some sort of limbo/purgatory and the writers insisted this was not the case.  Almost everything would be explained as being based in science they said.  Now we find out it WAS a type of purgatory and none of it was real?!  And despite their putting "multi denominational" symbols on their "church's" stain glassed window, I felt like I just had a Christian religious lesson rammed down my throat.  A totally unsatisfying ending to what I thought was one of the best shows on TV.  Thumbs DOWN!

Whaaaa???? I am a Christian, and the ending did not have any of this, that I could see. At best if we're talking religion, this was a Universalist ending - all roads lead to heaven, you don't have to really repent or anything to get there. You just have to be "ready". No talk of Jesus or anything, and He's pretty foundational if we're talking Christianity. At any rate, I liked the ending. I totally cried when Claire and Charlie found eachother....I love their story, and I love both of their characters. OK so I also cried about Sayid and whatever her name is too. I also thought it was so sweet when Kate told Claire that no one know how to be a parent, at least not at first.


Really?  I think it must be that because you ARE a christian, the symbolism is almost invisible to you - like asking a fish about the water.  I recall back in my HS English Lit class being enraged at how EVERYTHING we read had Christ analogies. 

But here you go:  The leader of the group takes on the the task of defeating the evil.  In the process, he gets wounded and then killed.  (Didn't you notice that he got stabbed in the side of the chest - like Christ was pierced by the soldier's lance?).  He gets killed but then is miraculously resurrected. He meets up with his father, who leads him back to his followers, before his father again goes back into the heavenly light, while the followers all sit and wait for something in the church.

It is hard to see it NOT in religous terms, and given the specifics, hard to see it as other than christian. Certainly not Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Sikh, Hindi, Wiccan, or animist in the imagery.

Yeah...his father who is named CHRISTIAN SHEPHARD!  I thought the writers were going to pull it out when they actually had Kate MAKE FUN of that point during the show, but then we got the ending we got....sigh.

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Well, I slept on it... and I'm still disappointed with the ending.

I understand what they were going for, I understand that the Sideways reality was actually a Purgatory-type of thing and that everyone was able to cross-over to wherever it was that they were going once they were all together and remembered the most important parts of their lives (which had occurred on the island, together).  I get that.  But I don't like it. 

[As an aside, why were baby Aaron and Penny in the church??  And why not so many others?  Anyway...]

My biggest problem with this ending is that they never answered any of the main questions.  None of them.  Even though they have always pushed the Science Vs Faith angle, Science went completely out the window this season.  And if the Island Timeline was actually the real timeline where people lived and died... that means that we still had the Dharma Initiative, the four-toed statue, Charles Widmore and his crazy quest for the island, the island "moving" and flashing through time... there are so many crazy things that really did occur, and we've been expecting answers for, and we've never gotten them.  I felt like this ending was an excuse for them to not have to answer any of the questions I had.  And I'm sad because of that.
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brynn - 2010-05-24 8:25 AM Whaaaa???? I am a Christian, and the ending did not have any of this, that I could see. At best if we're talking religion, this was a Universalist ending - all roads lead to heaven, you don't have to really repent or anything to get there. You just have to be "ready". No talk of Jesus or anything, and He's pretty foundational if we're talking Christianity. At any rate, I liked the ending. I totally cried when Claire and Charlie found eachother....I love their story, and I love both of their characters. OK so I also cried about Sayid and whatever her name is too. I also thought it was so sweet when Kate told Claire that no one know how to be a parent, at least not at first.


Really?  I think it must be that because you ARE a christian, the symbolism is almost invisible to you - like asking a fish about the water.  I recall back in my HS English Lit class being enraged at how EVERYTHING we read had Christ analogies. 

But here you go:  The leader of the group takes on the the task of defeating the evil.  In the process, he gets wounded and then killed.  (Didn't you notice that he got stabbed in the side of the chest - like Christ was pierced by the soldier's lance?).  He gets killed but then is miraculously resurrected. He meets up with his father, who leads him back to his followers, before his father again goes back into the heavenly light, while the followers all sit and wait for something in the church.

It is hard to see it NOT in religous terms, and given the specifics, hard to see it as other than christian. Certainly not Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Sikh, Hindi, Wiccan, or animist in the imagery.


I can kind of see how Jack is a Christ-like character, and yes I did notice him getting stabbed in the side. But I guess repentance and faith in Jesus Christ are so fundamental to my faith that anything without those doesn't seem like much of a "Christian religious lesson". Someone who doesn't know anything about the Bible couldn't watch this show and put anything together about Christianity at all. Plus Christianity has no purgatory unless you are Catholic, which is kind of Christian but kind of not depending on who you ask. Just my 2 cents!
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gearboy - 2010-05-24 9:29 AM
Another thumbs down.  It felt like a complete cop-out.  And when the writers said they knew from the beginning what the final scene would be, maybe they should have filmed it then.


I take this to mean that they knew the final shot would be Jack's eye closing as he died in a spot very much like the one he came to in at the beginning of the pilot. The series' opening shot was his eye opening.

They really should have created their arc and followed through with shorter series - one or maybe two seasons at most.


I kind of agree with this. The series was one or two seasons too long IMO.  The whole Dogen/Temple thing for instance was pure filler. Completely unnecessary.

I'm a sci-fi fan so about half way through the episode when it was becoming obvious that most of the "but what is it? how does it work?" questions would go unanswered I was bothered for a bit.  But once I realized that they were taking a more spiritual "you'll know what you need to when you need to and nothing more" approach I came to enjoy the ending and the way it played out.

I'm still not sure how I feel about the whole sideways world/ purgatory/ place you made/ and they died happily ever after* plot device.

The final season definitely made it clear that any viewers expectations or desires about where the story is going to go should be abandoned, so I can't say I wasn't warned to be ready for anything.

I like the fact that a lot of questions weren't answered. It leaves a lot of room for speculation and imagination which could be part of their intent and the show's overall message:  "Nothing is certain, very little is under your control. Life is about who and how you love and the decisions you make." 

Was it good? It's going to stay with me, and the wife and I will be talking about if for a while. So in that respect, yes it was very good.  The ending will be debated endlessly, but one thing that can't be is the quality of the acting. Just superb. 


* I just made that up. I like it.


2010-05-24 9:54 AM
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BTW, did anyone else think that the skeletons in the light pool were supposed to be previous "Jacks" who had saved the world before him? That the writers were hinting at a neverending battle between good and evil? 
2010-05-24 10:02 AM
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marmadaddy - 2010-05-24 10:54 AM BTW, did anyone else think that the skeletons in the light pool were supposed to be previous "Jacks" who had saved the world before him? That the writers were hinting at a neverending battle between good and evil? 


Was not sure what the make of that either.  I thought maybe it was people who tried to "steal" the light and died.  But the pool spit out both the MIB and Jack's bodies.  So why not these bodies?

And if Desmond was the only one would could withstand the "electromagnetic" stuff in the pool why did Jack live?  It just got sloppy towards the end.

IMKO it was just a prop the makes the place look dangerous and spook.  No further thought was put into them.
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TriRSquared - 2010-05-24 10:02 AM
marmadaddy - 2010-05-24 10:54 AM BTW, did anyone else think that the skeletons in the light pool were supposed to be previous "Jacks" who had saved the world before him? That the writers were hinting at a neverending battle between good and evil? 


Was not sure what the make of that either.  I thought maybe it was people who tried to "steal" the light and died.  But the pool spit out both the MIB and Jack's bodies.  So why not these bodies?

And if Desmond was the only one would could withstand the "electromagnetic" stuff in the pool why did Jack live?  It just got sloppy towards the end.

IMKO it was just a prop the makes the place look dangerous and spook.  No further thought was put into them.


 My first thought when Jack put the "cork" back in the island was that the water was going to heal him and bring him back to life so to speak.. So I was really surprised when it didn't for that scene,
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Subject: RE: LOOOOOOOOOOOOST!!!!! (spoilers, duh)
marmadaddy - 2010-05-24 10:54 AM BTW, did anyone else think that the skeletons in the light pool were supposed to be previous "Jacks" who had saved the world before him? That the writers were hinting at a neverending battle between good and evil? 


Yes, I did.  I also took the symbol in the stained glass on the lower left next to the Yin-Yang as Robert Jordan's "Wheel of Time"

The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.
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