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 2011-01-25 2:37 PM in reply to: #3320490 |
Champion  5376    PA |  Subject: RE: What's in your taco?BigDH - 2011-01-25 12:16 PM TriRSquared - 2011-01-25 10:03 AM People actually eat at Taco Bell once they graduate from college? When the pregnant wife says Taco Tuesday you say, how many dear. Of course she sticks to the bean tacos, has always been suspicious of the beef.LOL.. my wife used to send me on 2AM Whataburger trips when she was pregnant. Our family does not eat out very often. My wife and I enjoy cooking together, trying new things, on the weekends. Over the past few weeks we have tried a few new things from scratch and all have come out very well. We don't have a lot of trust in restaraunt food or the prep. Think about the guy who made the french toast in the movie, "Road Trip." |
| 2011-01-25 2:37 PM in reply to: #3320490 |
Champion 5376 PA | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? |
| 2011-01-25 2:37 PM in reply to: #3320862 |
| Subject: RE: What's in your taco? COSkiGirl - 2011-01-25 11:28 AM DanielG - 2011-01-25 12:06 PM lisac957 - 2011-01-25 1:35 PM If there were 0% beef I would agree with you. There is beef in their beef tacos, yes? I guess I just find this suit as I do a number of other ones, someone's out to try to hit the lawsuit lottery. zed707 - 2011-01-25 11:45 AM DanielG - 2011-01-25 11:01 AM After some of the stuff I've eaten in various countries and survival schools I have to say, yeah, so? I can think of worse  Actually, I was thinking the same thing. Big deal. It's still entirely edible and frankly, quite delicious. I mean it's got oats and stuff, sounds like health food! Me thinks I'll have Taco Bell beef product for lunch. It wouldn't be a big deal if they accurately advertised - hey, eat what you like. But to say they are serving "beef" when in fact it is less than 35% beef (if that turns out to be true) is misleading and that is the issue at debate. Not weather it's edible or not. Except that they're not asking for monetary damages, just a change in advertising wording. I agree that it's somewhat disturbing that they use so many added ingredients but it's a taco, not a steak where you're expecting 100% meat. Au contraire - It's a class action, meaning somewhere down the line it will settle and the attorneys will apply to the court for attorneys' fees somewhere in the millions of dollars. The "non cash" part of the lawuit will mean that members of the class will typically get a coupon for a certain free item or percentage off. But someone (the lawyers) are definitely out for the lottery win. |
| 2011-01-25 2:52 PM in reply to: #3320773 |
Master 2701  Salisbury, North Carolina | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? DerekL - 2011-01-25 1:50 PM Is that really the thread title? LOL..... my thoughts exactly. |
| 2011-01-25 3:00 PM in reply to: #3321058 |
Veteran 416 Denver | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? Pector55 - 2011-01-25 1:37 PM BigDH - 2011-01-25 12:16 PM TriRSquared - 2011-01-25 10:03 AM People actually eat at Taco Bell once they graduate from college? When the pregnant wife says Taco Tuesday you say, how many dear. Of course she sticks to the bean tacos, has always been suspicious of the beef.LOL.. my wife used to send me on 2AM Whataburger trips when she was pregnant. mmmmmmmmmmm I miss Whataburger!!! |
| 2011-01-25 3:12 PM in reply to: #3321045 |
Elite 3091 Spokane, WA | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? scoobysdad - 2011-01-25 2:33 PM BigDH - 2011-01-25 2:28 PM I think you're missing the point. In this case, the "beef" itself is only 35% beef, not the taco. The lettuce, tomato and cheese are irrelevant. How would vegetarians feel if something advertised as "vegetarian" was even 1% beef? lisac957 - 2011-01-25 12:19 PM This is an interesting philosophical question. Clearly, if it had 1 percent beef it would not be vegetarian, right. However, I agree, 1 percent beef hardly seems to warrant calling it a beef taco. Certainly the whole thing does not have to be beef, I mean there is a shell, lettuce, thin slice of tomato, a bit of cheese....the unsettling part, of course, is that the stuff that looks like 100% beef is in fact only 35% beef. But does that matter, I mean the burgers I make at home I through in some bread crumbs, seasoning, an egg...not 100% beef right, even though it looks like beef. I suppose the difference is at home the majority is beef. But what about beef stew or beef spaghetti sauce, in those dishes it is common that beef comprises the smaller portion of the dish. Interesting.DanielG - 2011-01-25 1:06 PM lisac957 - 2011-01-25 1:35 PM If there were 0% beef I would agree with you. There is beef in their beef tacos, yes? I guess I just find this suit as I do a number of other ones, someone's out to try to hit the lawsuit lottery. zed707 - 2011-01-25 11:45 AM DanielG - 2011-01-25 11:01 AM After some of the stuff I've eaten in various countries and survival schools I have to say, yeah, so? I can think of worse Actually, I was thinking the same thing. Big deal. It's still entirely edible and frankly, quite delicious. I mean it's got oats and stuff, sounds like health food! Me thinks I'll have Taco Bell beef product for lunch. It wouldn't be a big deal if they accurately advertised - hey, eat what you like. But to say they are serving "beef" when in fact it is less than 35% beef (if that turns out to be true) is misleading and that is the issue at debate. Not weather it's edible or not. So if they had 1% beef would it be okay? Where is the line? I dunno, I'm not a lawyer. I don't see how he's missing the point. His example of the home made burger is very similar to the taco example and indicates to me he understands the point perfectly. You've got a hamburger with a "beef" patty that is not 100% beef--and that's OK with him. Don't see the point he's missing.
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| 2011-01-25 3:25 PM in reply to: #3321144 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? zed707 - 2011-01-25 3:12 PM scoobysdad - 2011-01-25 2:33 PM BigDH - 2011-01-25 2:28 PM I think you're missing the point. In this case, the "beef" itself is only 35% beef, not the taco. The lettuce, tomato and cheese are irrelevant. How would vegetarians feel if something advertised as "vegetarian" was even 1% beef? lisac957 - 2011-01-25 12:19 PM This is an interesting philosophical question. Clearly, if it had 1 percent beef it would not be vegetarian, right. However, I agree, 1 percent beef hardly seems to warrant calling it a beef taco. Certainly the whole thing does not have to be beef, I mean there is a shell, lettuce, thin slice of tomato, a bit of cheese....the unsettling part, of course, is that the stuff that looks like 100% beef is in fact only 35% beef. But does that matter, I mean the burgers I make at home I through in some bread crumbs, seasoning, an egg...not 100% beef right, even though it looks like beef. I suppose the difference is at home the majority is beef. But what about beef stew or beef spaghetti sauce, in those dishes it is common that beef comprises the smaller portion of the dish. Interesting.DanielG - 2011-01-25 1:06 PM lisac957 - 2011-01-25 1:35 PM If there were 0% beef I would agree with you. There is beef in their beef tacos, yes? I guess I just find this suit as I do a number of other ones, someone's out to try to hit the lawsuit lottery. zed707 - 2011-01-25 11:45 AM DanielG - 2011-01-25 11:01 AM After some of the stuff I've eaten in various countries and survival schools I have to say, yeah, so? I can think of worse Actually, I was thinking the same thing. Big deal. It's still entirely edible and frankly, quite delicious. I mean it's got oats and stuff, sounds like health food! Me thinks I'll have Taco Bell beef product for lunch. It wouldn't be a big deal if they accurately advertised - hey, eat what you like. But to say they are serving "beef" when in fact it is less than 35% beef (if that turns out to be true) is misleading and that is the issue at debate. Not weather it's edible or not. So if they had 1% beef would it be okay? Where is the line? I dunno, I'm not a lawyer. I don't see how he's missing the point. His example of the home made burger is very similar to the taco example and indicates to me he understands the point perfectly. You've got a hamburger with a "beef" patty that is not 100% beef--and that's OK with him. Don't see the point he's missing.
The reference to the shell, lettuce, cheese and tomato misses the point because the lawsuit contends that Taco Bell is advertising it uses "seasoned beef", meaning the issue centers on the purported "beef" alone, NOT that it is advertising a "beef taco" which would then include the lettuce, tomato and cheese. The example of the hamburger is appropriate and I would argue is equally contentious as Taco Bell's taco. If he were to market his bread crumb burger I would expect him to divulge it is not a 100% beef patty. |
| 2011-01-25 3:26 PM in reply to: #3321166 |
Member 5452 NC | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? scoobysdad - 2011-01-25 4:25 PM The example of the hamburger is appropriate and I would argue is equally contentious as Taco Bell's taco. If he were to market his bread crumb burger I would expect him to divulge it is not a 100% beef patty. Now you're just messing around. |
| 2011-01-25 3:40 PM in reply to: #3320250 |
Expert 2180 Boise, Idaho | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? "What's in YOUR taco?" snicker...snerk....snort... I can't even say say that without giggling. |
| 2011-01-25 4:19 PM in reply to: #3320250 |
Member 38 Milwaukee-ish | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? Congrats to you on an interesting title for this thread...I clicked on it. |
| 2011-01-25 4:36 PM in reply to: #3320490 |
Master 3127 Sunny Southern Cal | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? BigDH - 2011-01-25 9:16 AM TriRSquared - 2011-01-25 10:03 AM People actually eat at Taco Bell once they graduate from college? When the pregnant wife says Taco Tuesday you say, how many dear. Of course she sticks to the bean tacos, has always been suspicious of the beef.Of course, the bean tacos are only 35% bean, diluted with oats, wheat, and soylent green. |
| 2011-01-25 4:46 PM in reply to: #3321304 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? SevenZulu - 2011-01-25 4:36 PM BigDH - 2011-01-25 9:16 AM TriRSquared - 2011-01-25 10:03 AM People actually eat at Taco Bell once they graduate from college? When the pregnant wife says Taco Tuesday you say, how many dear. Of course she sticks to the bean tacos, has always been suspicious of the beef.Of course, the bean tacos are only 35% bean, diluted with oats, wheat, and soylent green. And here I thought the bean burritos would be 65% beef! |
| 2011-01-25 5:05 PM in reply to: #3320250 |
Champion 7136 Knoxville area | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? I'm glad to know I'm not the only dirty minded person on BT. |
| 2011-01-25 8:11 PM in reply to: #3320250 |
| Expert 1233 | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? Now I know why I love Taco Bell so much, next to sodium sorbitol, 'anti-dusting agent' is my absolute favorite additive! Now, if some chain would offer ground lawyer meat....(oh, they do, it's called Shark)  |
| 2011-01-25 11:30 PM in reply to: #3320492 |
Champion 4835 Eat Cheese or Die | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? |
| 2011-01-26 12:37 PM in reply to: #3320250 |
Elite 3091 Spokane, WA | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? Taco Bell denies the allegations in the suit!! They're planning legal action against the scoundrels spreading these lies! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41268384 Seriously, I thought the 35% figure was BS. Viva Gorditas!! |
| 2011-01-26 12:47 PM in reply to: #3322795 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? zed707 - 2011-01-26 12:37 PM Taco Bell denies the allegations in the suit!! They're planning legal action against the scoundrels spreading these lies! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41268384 Seriously, I thought the 35% figure was BS. Viva Gorditas!! Sounds like Taco Bell is couching it response to me. They say Taco Bell "STARTS with 100% real beef" then adds its proprietary seasonings, blah, blah, blah. They don't explicitly deny adding fillers and binders in a step somewhere there in between. I'm sticking to my hotdogs. At least lips and rectums are organic. |
| 2011-01-26 12:57 PM in reply to: #3320250 |
Pro 4360 Baton Rouge area | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? Thread title aside, I do occasionally eat at Taco Bell. Now after reading this I am not sure I want to eat at anyones house: |
| 2011-01-26 1:04 PM in reply to: #3322863 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? GaryRM - 2011-01-26 12:57 PM Thread title aside, I do occasionally eat at Taco Bell. Now after reading this I am not sure I want to eat at anyones house: Interesting, but I just saw a another study somewhere that the absolute dirtiest place is your office desktop and computer keyboard if you often eat lunch at your desk. It's far dirtier than the toilet bowl. I'll try to find it. Well, that wasn't hard. Here it is: http://www.sealshield.com/White%20Papers/cloroxstudy.pdf Edited by scoobysdad 2011-01-26 1:06 PM |
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| Champion 5376 PA | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? AcesFull - 2011-01-26 2:55 PM lisac957 - 2011-01-25 10:08 AM Attorney Dee Miles said attorneys had Taco Bell's "meat mixture" tested and found it contained less that 35 percent beef. The lawsuit says that Taco Bell's "seasoned beef" contains other ingredients, including water, wheat oats, soy lecithin, maltodrextrin, anti-dusting agent and modified corn starch. One of the many reasons I turned vegetarian. Restaurant, prepared, and fast-food "meat" is disgusting. And that whole "sneaking" ingredients thing into common foods is especially alarming to those of us with food allergies/intolerances. You'd think you could get a taco without wheat or oats in it. Apparently not. (to be fair, Taco Bell's nutrition guide DOES state almost every menu item contains wheat or gluten).
Much of the "filler" is probably healthier than the meat... I'll have to find a link but I saw a documentary (read: no idea how truthful it was) about beef being fed corn silage, thus developing a lot more harmful bacteria. One solution was to add in ammonia-based filler which would help kill the bacteria. Blah, none of it sounds good to me anymore. Hopefully someone with more knowledge of the industry can pull the facts out of that. |
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| Master 1619 Hingham, Ma | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? Pector55 - 2011-01-26 3:42 PM AcesFull - 2011-01-26 2:55 PM lisac957 - 2011-01-25 10:08 AM Attorney Dee Miles said attorneys had Taco Bell's "meat mixture" tested and found it contained less that 35 percent beef. The lawsuit says that Taco Bell's "seasoned beef" contains other ingredients, including water, wheat oats, soy lecithin, maltodrextrin, anti-dusting agent and modified corn starch. One of the many reasons I turned vegetarian. Restaurant, prepared, and fast-food "meat" is disgusting. And that whole "sneaking" ingredients thing into common foods is especially alarming to those of us with food allergies/intolerances. You'd think you could get a taco without wheat or oats in it. Apparently not. (to be fair, Taco Bell's nutrition guide DOES state almost every menu item contains wheat or gluten).
Much of the "filler" is probably healthier than the meat... I'll have to find a link but I saw a documentary (read: no idea how truthful it was) about beef being fed corn silage, thus developing a lot more harmful bacteria. One solution was to add in ammonia-based filler which would help kill the bacteria. Blah, none of it sounds good to me anymore. Hopefully someone with more knowledge of the industry can pull the facts out of that. I think it was Food, Inc. I haven't seen it yet, I am actually a bit scared to, but they were talking about it on the news this morning and showing clips from the documentary about how certain "filler" parts are sprayed with ammonia. |
| 2011-01-26 2:51 PM in reply to: #3323115 |
| Champion 5376 PA | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? Boston Beginner - 2011-01-26 3:46 PM Pector55 - 2011-01-26 3:42 PM AcesFull - 2011-01-26 2:55 PM lisac957 - 2011-01-25 10:08 AM Attorney Dee Miles said attorneys had Taco Bell's "meat mixture" tested and found it contained less that 35 percent beef. The lawsuit says that Taco Bell's "seasoned beef" contains other ingredients, including water, wheat oats, soy lecithin, maltodrextrin, anti-dusting agent and modified corn starch. One of the many reasons I turned vegetarian. Restaurant, prepared, and fast-food "meat" is disgusting. And that whole "sneaking" ingredients thing into common foods is especially alarming to those of us with food allergies/intolerances. You'd think you could get a taco without wheat or oats in it. Apparently not. (to be fair, Taco Bell's nutrition guide DOES state almost every menu item contains wheat or gluten).
Much of the "filler" is probably healthier than the meat... I'll have to find a link but I saw a documentary (read: no idea how truthful it was) about beef being fed corn silage, thus developing a lot more harmful bacteria. One solution was to add in ammonia-based filler which would help kill the bacteria. Blah, none of it sounds good to me anymore. Hopefully someone with more knowledge of the industry can pull the facts out of that. I think it was Food, Inc. I haven't seen it yet, I am actually a bit scared to, but they were talking about it on the news this morning and showing clips from the documentary about how certain "filler" parts are sprayed with ammonia. I will check tonight. I know it was in my Netflix instant queue. I enjoy documentaries whether I agree with them or not. ... I just looked up Foot, Inc on IMDb and I believe you are right. I watched King Corn as well and both showed an interesting perspective on the food industry. |
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| Master 1619 Hingham, Ma | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? Pector55 - 2011-01-26 3:51 PM Boston Beginner - 2011-01-26 3:46 PM Pector55 - 2011-01-26 3:42 PM AcesFull - 2011-01-26 2:55 PM lisac957 - 2011-01-25 10:08 AM Attorney Dee Miles said attorneys had Taco Bell's "meat mixture" tested and found it contained less that 35 percent beef. The lawsuit says that Taco Bell's "seasoned beef" contains other ingredients, including water, wheat oats, soy lecithin, maltodrextrin, anti-dusting agent and modified corn starch. One of the many reasons I turned vegetarian. Restaurant, prepared, and fast-food "meat" is disgusting. And that whole "sneaking" ingredients thing into common foods is especially alarming to those of us with food allergies/intolerances. You'd think you could get a taco without wheat or oats in it. Apparently not. (to be fair, Taco Bell's nutrition guide DOES state almost every menu item contains wheat or gluten).
Much of the "filler" is probably healthier than the meat... I'll have to find a link but I saw a documentary (read: no idea how truthful it was) about beef being fed corn silage, thus developing a lot more harmful bacteria. One solution was to add in ammonia-based filler which would help kill the bacteria. Blah, none of it sounds good to me anymore. Hopefully someone with more knowledge of the industry can pull the facts out of that. I think it was Food, Inc. I haven't seen it yet, I am actually a bit scared to, but they were talking about it on the news this morning and showing clips from the documentary about how certain "filler" parts are sprayed with ammonia. I will check tonight. I know it was in my Netflix instant queue. I enjoy documentaries whether I agree with them or not. ... I just looked up Foot, Inc on IMDb and I believe you are right. I watched King Corn as well and both showed an interesting perspective on the food industry. Is that the Rex Ryan documentary? |
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| Champion 5376 PA | Subject: RE: What's in your taco? |
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