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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() run4yrlif - 2005-12-16 8:17 AM I seriously thought about it a year or so ago. I mean, just think you could by a few million dinars for a relatively small amount of money. If it never went anywhere, you wouldn';t be out much, but if democracy really prevails like the POTUS says it will (I don't believe it, but that's a subject for another thread), you'd make a killing.
jszat - 2005-12-16 9:13 AM run4yrlif - 2005-12-16 8:03 AM I work in foreign exchange sales and have actually had some folks ask about this as a serious option. Um, no thanks. Currency spec is a tough gig. If anything, buy Vietnamese Dong so you can say you are long the Dong to your friends. That an investment that keeps on yielding in the snicker department.run4yrlif - 2005-12-16 9:02 AM Awww...c'mon. Iraqi dinars are the shizznit!
BUt if it were me, I'd probably go to Vegas and invest in hookers and blackjack... I am not certain on the paper currency, but would guess the old Saddam notes are basically no longer legal tender. I think the new stuff is hard to come by and anything sizeable from an investment standpoint would probably come with tons of paperwork or restrictions. I say collect all the shiny beads you can. You will make a killing after the apocolypse, or maybe just have some cool shiny beads. |
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Queen BTich ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thats what I was thinking...something shorter term until I get stuff figured out. However, I can still have a big cushion and have some to invest too. tmwelshy - 2005-12-16 9:27 AM Haley, you will need that money in the next 2-6 months and it's not enough to yeild really appreciable results in that time frame. CD or savings account is my advice - it's not glamerous, but good money management seldom is. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() run4yrlif - 2005-12-16 6:32 AM Buy Iraqi dinars. As soon as the iragui economy springs back to life, the value of the dinar will skyrocket. You can buy a half-million dinars for $395 here: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-IRAQI-Dinar-Half-Million-1-2-Million_W0QQitemZ5840489391QQcategoryZ4369QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Ha funny, I was in the Middle Easst a few weeks ago and I did my investment, I bought "old" iraqui Dinnars, the ones with Saddam Hussein on them... I am counting they are going to be very, very valuable say.... 50 or 60 years down the road...
I also know that Chipotle is going public... maybe buying stocks from the burrito joint might not be a bad idea Edited by velasqu7 2005-12-16 8:55 AM |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() HELL YEAH! velasqu7 - 2005-12-16 9:55 AM I also know that Chipotle is going public... maybe buying stocks from the burrito joint might not be a bad idea |
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Resident Curmudgeon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 3558 - 2005-12-16 8:59 AM HELL YEAH!
velasqu7 - 2005-12-16 9:55 AM I also know that Chipotle is going public... maybe buying stocks from the burrito joint might not be a bad idea Haven't done any research at all on this, but I did hear they expect an IPO price equal to 88 times earnings, which is roughly four times the market valuation. Seems like that would leave a whole lot of room for downward movement in the price. Of course, maybe stockholders get privileges, like free guac or extra meat. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Craps? did someone say craps? I'm in!!!! Seriously, if you want to go the mutual fun route check out Morningstar.com |
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![]() | ![]() I am not a finanicial advisor, but I use one, and I would recommend it to anyone. It sounds like you might have a significant amount to work with here, so it might be worth it to you. The other reason I use one is because I have enough to deal with with, I do not have room in my head or any interest in research different fund families, etc. I tell my advisor my goals, my short and long term plans and he makes a variety or low and high risk recommendations. As a result, I have a variety of investments. I can also tell him sign me up or shove it with no ill effects. He works within my goals, my lifestyle. He doesn't tell me how to spend or invest my money. Just offers options to help me reach my goals. The CDs may not be a bad way to go, just why you figure life out, but if you do see an advisor, they can recommend you to another person when you move. CDs from a bank will have a pretty low interest rate... but better than a savings acct. Good luck!
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Queen BTich ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thanks for all the feedback. I have some ideas to work with thanks. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 4 words: Frozen Concentrated Orange Juice |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() why not a Scottrade account. Buy some stock of whatever stock you feel floats your boat......whether conservative or agressive and see what happens. You will have access to your money all the time and you get to play with the stock market. Keeping in mind, that you probably are not going to make a whole lot in six months or so but you can always get to your money if you need it. Plus the experience is good. Just don't lose it all. Basically any money you put in the stock market should be money you can live with out. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() How much time are you willing to devote to researching and tracking your investments? How much $$ are you investing (no, don't answer publicly). Are you willing to learn some basic investment skills? How does your expected return work out on a per/hour basis? Are you disciplined enough to spend a couple hours crunching the numbers instead of watching a movie? How would you feel if you invested in a company/fund and it tanked (50% off) a month later? Hiring a financial planner or money manager can make sense if you aren't willing to learn/do the work yourself. That person should go through some of these same questions, and you should feel comfortable that you understand (and agree with) the proposed plan. If you buy a 6-month CD, make a committment to be ready to invest when it matures. It is real easy to just let it ride "until things settle" or "next week/month/year." Interview planners, research investments, and make your plan so that you are ready to go. Good Luck and happy hunting. |
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Pro![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I think you should send it all to a TV evangelist! |
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Elite![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() slovegreen - 2005-12-16 9:26 AM I am not a finanicial advisor, but I use one, and I would recommend it to anyone. It sounds like you might have a significant amount to work with here, so it might be worth it to you. The other reason I use one is because I have enough to deal with with, I do not have room in my head or any interest in research different fund families, etc. I tell my advisor my goals, my short and long term plans and he makes a variety or low and high risk recommendations. As a result, I have a variety of investments. I can also tell him sign me up or shove it with no ill effects. He works within my goals, my lifestyle. He doesn't tell me how to spend or invest my money. Just offers options to help me reach my goals. The CDs may not be a bad way to go, just why you figure life out, but if you do see an advisor, they can recommend you to another person when you move. CDs from a bank will have a pretty low interest rate... but better than a savings acct. Good luck!
I couldn't agree more. Having someone who is on your side with the expertise to guide your decisions is critical. We've had a lot of success with our financial planner for several reasons: 1 - He's extremely trustworthy 2 - He's in a similar position in life so we often end up asking "what would you do". 3 - He has the expertise that we simply do not have nor do we have the time to learn. I'm thoroughly convinced that its a full time job to have the knowledge necessary to make smart decisions on our personal finances. I used to be a financial planner and in the few years since, the necessary knowledge has totally passed me by. Best of luck to you and may the market be kind to all of us. Tom |
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Elite![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() There are so many choices from investing in real estate, the market, a business, and yourself that it can become confusing. What do you want to own? What type of asset do you have the most faith in? What makes you warm and fuzzy? What are your goals and where do you want to be in 5/10/20 years? Also, don't forget that your investment opportunities are all around you. For instance, my friend who loves flying walked into the very flight school where he learned to fly and asked the owner how much he'd sell for. He now owns a flight school. Words of caution: Remember that it is your money. The only thing you should love more than your bank account is your family. Don't be afraid to hurt anyone's feelings when it comes to your money. And most importantly brokers and agents are salesman - not your friends! You're a smart cat, I know you'll figure it out. Just remember to take care of your BT friends when you hit the big time. |
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Elite![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Agreed, I wouldn't put money into a CD. I think CD's at present can barely keep up with inflation especially after you pay taxes on your earnings. Edited by ChuckyFinster 2005-12-16 4:23 PM |
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Queen BTich![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thanks Chucky. I have some great ideas to work with now. My main goal is to be safe and save and have a little fun with it on the side too while I have the opportunity (young, carefree with few responsibilities |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TriComet- One way to educate yourself about investing is to join or start an "investment club"- I belong to an all women's club of 12 that meets monthly- we take turns hosting the meeting & do dinner for the club-(yes, there is wine involved-!)We each have a particular stock or 2 that we are "responsible" for tracking/following- we take turns doing research on a particular topic or subject & bring it back to the group- Each member "partner" invests a modest set sum every month- we vote to buy/sell/hold etc....It's been a fun- and safe way to learn- most of the women have gone on to start an additional stock thing of their own... Edited by isis54 2005-12-17 8:44 AM |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() the bear - 2005-12-16 8:20 AM DerekL - 2005-12-16 8:10 AM Since opinions here are supposed to go from one extreme to another, I'll disagree with a few things. Putting money in mutual funds, especially for a young person, is usually the wrong way to go about things. The vast majority of MF's UNDERperform the market, and you're actually paying some fund manager to do that. Hell, you could pick stocks at random and probably do better than most MF's. If you put your money in an index fund, you're historically going to outperform 80% of MF's over time. More confused yet? Uh, index funds ARE mutual funds, just not "managed" mutual funds. But I do agree with the supposition that no-load index funds can be better than managed, loaded mutual funds. Haley, the key, as you may be seeing (and doing) here, is to educate yourself. Of course a person that does this for a living is going to recommend that you use a professional. Regardless, educating yourself will allow you to make the wise choices. Depends entirely on your definition of mutual fund, but you know what I'm talking about obviously. Couple of great resources out there that I didn't mention before. www.fool.com (don't let the name disuade you) |
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Resident Curmudgeon![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DerekL - 2005-12-17 10:06 AM Depends entirely on your definition of mutual fund, but you know what I'm talking about obviously. Couple of great resources out there that I didn't mention before. www.fool.com (don't let the name disuade you) Ah, the Clintonian Dodge. How do you define the word "is"? Nothing depends on "my" or "your" definition, but rather on the accepted definition. Here's how YOUR reference (fool.com) defines index funds: Index Fund |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() the bear - 2005-12-17 11:22 AM DerekL - 2005-12-17 10:06 AM Depends entirely on your definition of mutual fund, but you know what I'm talking about obviously. Couple of great resources out there that I didn't mention before. www.fool.com (don't let the name disuade you) Ah, the Clintonian Dodge. How do you define the word "is"? Nothing depends on "my" or "your" definition, but rather on the accepted definition. Here's how YOUR reference (fool.com) defines index funds: Index Fund Nothing dodgey about it at all. If we're going to go by literal definitions, then it is a mutual fund. If we're speaking to people who aren't that familiar with investing terminology, the term "mutual fund" has a specific connotation to them and that is of the managed fund. It's just semantics and a simplification for the sake of explaining the differences. Crotchety old fart, aren't ya? |
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Resident Curmudgeon![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DerekL - 2005-12-17 12:52 PM Nothing dodgey about it at all. If we're going to go by literal definitions, then it is a mutual fund. If we're speaking to people who aren't that familiar with investing terminology, the term "mutual fund" has a specific connotation to them and that is of the managed fund. It's just semantics and a simplification for the sake of explaining the differences. Crotchety old fart, aren't ya? What other kind of definitions are there, besides literal ones? And how do you know what connotations a term has to other people? And shouldn't someone knowledgeable (supposedly you) be using the terms correctly in advice to the unknowledgeable? How does using terms wrongly simplify an explanation? An index fund is a type of mutual fund. Seems like if you tell someone not to use mutual funds, but to use index funds instead, it's only going to serve to confuse them. Yes, I'm crotchety. It's cold and raining outside, I'm bored, and the football game is only marginally exciting. Edited by the bear 2005-12-17 1:13 PM |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() the bear - 2005-12-17 1:08 PM DerekL - 2005-12-17 12:52 PM Nothing dodgey about it at all. If we're going to go by literal definitions, then it is a mutual fund. If we're speaking to people who aren't that familiar with investing terminology, the term "mutual fund" has a specific connotation to them and that is of the managed fund. It's just semantics and a simplification for the sake of explaining the differences. Crotchety old fart, aren't ya? What other kind of definitions are there, besides literal ones? And how do you know what connotations a term has to other people? And shouldn't someone knowledgeable (supposedly you) be using the terms correctly in advice to the unknowledgeable? How does using terms wrongly simplify an explanation? An index fund is a type of mutual fund. Seems like if you tell someone not to use mutual funds, but to use index funds instead, it's only going to serve to confuse them. Not if I'm allowed to make a distinction between the two without somebody arguing semantics. |
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Resident Curmudgeon![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DerekL - 2005-12-17 1:27 PM Not if I'm allowed to make a distinction between the two without somebody arguing semantics. But you didn't. The less confusing recommendation would have been, "Don't use managed mutual funds, use index funds." Rather than recomending one that is merely a subset of the one you recommended against. Edited by the bear 2005-12-17 1:43 PM |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() the bear - 2005-12-17 1:41 PM DerekL - 2005-12-17 1:27 PM Not if I'm allowed to make a distinction between the two without somebody arguing semantics. But you didn't. The less confusing recommendation would have been, "Don't use managed mutual funds, use index funds." Rather than recomending one that is merely a subset of the one you recommended against. I get the feeling you're arguing because you're bored. I'll go ahead and let the person to whom the post was directed decide whether or not she was confused and not assume things. And I'll go file this thread under "What exactly are we arguing about again?" as I'm done with it. |
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