Anyone ever loose a training partner b/c of spouse? (Page 2)
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() PatsyID - 2012-09-27 10:07 AM wannabefaster - 2012-09-27 7:22 AM My wife and I have been married 16 years, together 24. I think she trusts me completely and I am completely devoted to her. She has made tremendous sacrifices to allow me to train the way I do. No matter how you slice it, training for an IM is a lot of time away from your spouse. There is no doubt in my mind that my wife would not be "down with" me spending time with a female triathlete for hours and hours every week (the hours that I am not spending with my wife) while I was training. It just wouldn't fly. I am sure that both of your intentions are pure. Doesn't matter. The wife feels threatened by her husband spending time with you. I am sure that he will miss having a good training partner but he is doing the right thing honoring his wife's wishes and putting his marriage first. I have to admit that I would never end up in this situation because I know in advance that it would not fly in my house. I also am a big believer in not putting yourself in risky situations and spending significant amount of time, alone, with an attractive member of the opposite sex is a risky situation. Hope you are not offended by this perspective.
Not offended at all, you are correct. It could be a risky situation, I don't think I'd be too jazzed if hubby decided to pursue an athletic lifestyle and spent significant amout of times with the opposite sex either. I know I'm an unmoving boulder when it comes to fidelity and if there ever was an inappropriate feeling toward the opposite sex, whatever the situation, I'd make it my business to not to be in that persons company. Patsy
I am 100% convinced that I will never cheat on my wife. I still would not spend significant time alone with a member of the opposite sex. No need to throw temptation into the mix (even though I would not even be tempted--if you are reading this, dear). I also don't walk through the streets of Detroit in the middle of the night, don't drive 120 MPH, don't hang out in bars, etc. Life is full of risks. I try to avoid the ones that I can. Most of the time making preemptive decisions can mitigate many of these risks. When you hear on the news that someone got shot, more often than not if they had made different decisions, they could have avoided that outcome. Sorry for the partial hijack. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() wannabefaster - 2012-09-27 11:02 AM I also don't walk through the streets of Detroit in the middle of the night, don't drive 120 MPH, don't hang out in bars, etc. In other words, things that are similar to me going for a ride with a person that happens to be of the female persuasion.
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![]() | ![]() PatsyID - 2012-09-27 9:07 AM I know I'm an unmoving boulder when it comes to fidelity and if there ever was an inappropriate feeling toward the opposite sex, whatever the situation, I'd make it my business to not to be in that persons company. Your training partner's wife, unfounded or not, believes there is potential risk for these feelings to develop. So with your statement above, putting yourself in her shoes, I'm guessing you can understand her feelings. It doesn't make the loss suck any less though. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() In related news, the family and I were out to dinner about a month ago. A group came in and were seated beside us. Three couples with a few children. We were seated outside, so I could see that they had parked their mini-van at the curb beside the entrance. After they were seated, all three men immediately got up and went to park the van. I assume that some cultural or religious practice prevented only one of the men going to park the van. What I really didn't understand was why the women and children didn't just come in by themselves? That's all I've got.
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Goosedog - 2012-09-27 10:04 AM wannabefaster - 2012-09-27 11:02 AM I also don't walk through the streets of Detroit in the middle of the night, don't drive 120 MPH, don't hang out in bars, etc. In other words, things that are similar to me going for a ride with a person that happens to be of the female persuasion.
I'm safe for women to train with. I have a woman of my own that I don't understand most of the time....I don't want another one. I also have 4 daughters...I have not a single idea what they are talking about...I see their mouths move, but the language is foreign....I just give them money and it seems to make them happy. We can train together, I don't care what you look like...I will not be tempted....it is not a moral stand, and I'm not religious.....there is just no way I need more women. Edited by Left Brain 2012-09-27 10:17 AM |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Left Brain - 2012-09-27 11:16 AM We can train together, I don't care what you look like...I will not be tempted....there is no way I need more women. Just FYI, I'm a guy. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Goosedog - 2012-09-27 11:04 AM wannabefaster - 2012-09-27 11:02 AM I also don't walk through the streets of Detroit in the middle of the night, don't drive 120 MPH, don't hang out in bars, etc. In other words, things that are similar to me going for a ride with a person that happens to be of the female persuasion.
Not exactly ![]() I suspect that the wife who cheated with the running partner had no initial intention to do that but then over time, something happened. It has been a long standing thought of mind that making decisions BEFORE you are faced with a situation helps make dealing with the actual situation easier. Hence the reason why I have decided I will never cheat, no matter what (and no I do not protest too much). For example, I have decided that if a deer runs in front of my car, I will hit it instead of swerving (but if a kid runs in front of my car I may eat-it into a tree). Life is full of critical decisions. I occasionally spend time thinking about what I would do if ever faced with those decisions. Again, sorry for the hijack. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Having a spouse that doesn't trust you is just sad and speaks of greater problems in the relationship. Just having the person avoid situations that make the spouse jealous or worry will not fix the problems and will only have you miss out on life experiences. Edited by Big Appa 2012-09-27 10:19 AM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Left Brain - 2012-09-26 4:45 PM Sous - 2012-09-26 3:27 PM ChineseDemocracy - 2012-09-25 10:19 PM That sucks you had to go through that mess. That said, I was struck by one sentence:
Church or no church, I've seen enough to know it makes no difference.
I agree with this, when I was reading this the first thing I said to myself was "what does that have to do with anything." I was also struck by the statement that the club isn't very active, so its easier for you to text/email/call each other to set up training... and then you went on to say that the proverbial 'straw' was that you were cleaning up after a race this inactive club puts on. Maybe its me and my background, but this raised my spidey senses... maybe it did for her as well. I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong, but if it were my investigation these statements alone would make me want to dig deeper. Not me. I'm not wasting a single minute of my time "investigating" my wife, or digging deeper. That's crazy talk. For the sake of clarity, I'm not saying that I would "investigate" my wife for this... actually I'm very trusting of my wife and don't care much who she has for friends, in fact she has one friend (guy) that she is close with and will often hang out with when I'm not around. I know him and we get along... Its no big deal to me. What I was saying is simply from an investigative process... taking all things out of the equation and removing me from any personal involvement... If I'm presented with two statements "not a very active club" supported by several other statements to further describe just how inactive it is... and then the next statement of "a race my club puts on" I have to run that out... this is simply very conflicting. That is all I was saying. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Sous - 2012-09-27 10:19 AM Left Brain - 2012-09-26 4:45 PM Sous - 2012-09-26 3:27 PM ChineseDemocracy - 2012-09-25 10:19 PM That sucks you had to go through that mess. That said, I was struck by one sentence:
Church or no church, I've seen enough to know it makes no difference.
I agree with this, when I was reading this the first thing I said to myself was "what does that have to do with anything." I was also struck by the statement that the club isn't very active, so its easier for you to text/email/call each other to set up training... and then you went on to say that the proverbial 'straw' was that you were cleaning up after a race this inactive club puts on. Maybe its me and my background, but this raised my spidey senses... maybe it did for her as well. I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong, but if it were my investigation these statements alone would make me want to dig deeper. Not me. I'm not wasting a single minute of my time "investigating" my wife, or digging deeper. That's crazy talk. For the sake of clarity, I'm not saying that I would "investigate" my wife for this... actually I'm very trusting of my wife and don't care much who she has for friends, in fact she has one friend (guy) that she is close with and will often hang out with when I'm not around. I know him and we get along... Its no big deal to me. What I was saying is simply from an investigative process... taking all things out of the equation and removing me from any personal involvement... If I'm presented with two statements "not a very active club" supported by several other statements to further describe just how inactive it is... and then the next statement of "a race my club puts on" I have to run that out... this is simply very conflicting. That is all I was saying. Roger |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Goosedog - 2012-09-27 10:18 AM Left Brain - 2012-09-27 11:16 AM We can train together, I don't care what you look like...I will not be tempted....there is no way I need more women. Just FYI, I'm a guy. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I couldn't tell with the underwear over your head. |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Left Brain - 2012-09-27 11:23 AM I couldn't tell with the underwear over your head. If only this were the first time I've heard that.
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() PatsyID - 2012-09-26 10:32 PM Sous - 2012-09-26 2:27 PM ChineseDemocracy - 2012-09-25 10:19 PM That sucks you had to go through that mess. That said, I was struck by one sentence:
Church or no church, I've seen enough to know it makes no difference.
I agree with this, when I was reading this the first thing I said to myself was "what does that have to do with anything." I was also struck by the statement that the club isn't very active, so its easier for you to text/email/call each other to set up training... and then you went on to say that the proverbial 'straw' was that you were cleaning up after a race this inactive club puts on. Maybe its me and my background, but this raised my spidey senses... maybe it did for her as well. I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong, but if it were my investigation these statements alone would make me want to dig deeper. You got it Phill I'm a man stealing christian who likes to help out my club when asked, yep, your spidey senses are top notch.
Anyway, thank you everyone else for your thoughts, I think your consesus is right, I just don't know what their relationship is like but obviously his spouse is not cool with me being his trainng partner so that's that. I actually do take it personally, b/c I know she's thinking all these wrong horrible things about me....achk, screw it, her problem, I soo need a female partner so I don't have to deal with this crap again. Patsy Sorry that you disagree with the fact that going to church doesn't somehow makes a person less fallible, and I'm also sorry that you posted your story on the internet and I didn't realize that you were only seeking advice and opinions that are in support of your position. I really do hope the situation works out for you. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Goosedog - 2012-09-27 10:24 AM Left Brain - 2012-09-27 11:23 AM I couldn't tell with the underwear over your head. If only this were the first time I've heard that.
If only this were the first time I've had to say it. |
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Sensei ![]() | ![]() "Fun Fact". The pastor of my old church had an affair with one of the college girls in the youth group, which resulted in the divorce from his wife and losing his 3 kids and getting kicked out of the church... I trust people as individuals, not the fact that they go to church or not. |
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Sensei ![]() | ![]() As for the training partner issue... It's always a slippery slope with dealing the opposit sex. My wife has a lot of "fans" and many times, I have to accept the comments I see on FB, the calls, the flirting that goes on between performers, etc. I trust HER completely, just not the dudes (and some GIRLS! GIGGITY!) that she has to associate with. Only a few have outright tried to make things happen, but the rest? They are hovering in the wings and wouldn't waste a second jumping at the chance if she accepted their advances. There have been a FEW times I needed to put my foot down. The midnight calls, or the over the line comments on FB. I had to make my presence known a few times - which is usually enough to get them to back off. I'm just saying, if the OP did nothing innapropriate (which is sounds like), then it's not on her. It's between the guy and his wife. You don't know WHAT is going on under that roof. Personally, FOR ME, I just know it's probably easier to avoid spending a lot of time with another women alone for whatever reason. In a group situation? No problem. But kowing the tensions or potential weird feeling that MAY result, it's easier just to not do it. A few of the wife's friens have asked if they could go running with me, and I just sort of waffle around it and get out of the situation as nicely as I can. It's just awkward. My wife is hardly the jealous type either, BUT, it's just easier not putting myself in the position, you know? Works for me, YMMV.
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Iron Donkey![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kido - 2012-09-27 10:53 AM "Fun Fact". The pastor of my old church had an affair with one of the college girls in the youth group, which resulted in the divorce from his wife and losing his 3 kids and getting kicked out of the church... I trust people as individuals, not the fact that they go to church or not. I alwasy knew Akustix was a slimeball. KIDDING!! KIDDING!! KIDDING!! |
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Iron Donkey![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mr2tony - 2012-09-27 9:38 AM This happened to me a few years back but the kicker is that the guy was my friend and his wife was a competitive college runner and was trying to just get back into training, so I offered to run with her because she felt unsafe running in the dark (after work in Nebraska when it gets dark at 4pm). We did exactly two runs and he flipped his lid on her, and then on me, telling us how inappropriate it was for us to run together and spend that much time alone since we were both married. Um, OK dude, we are NEIGHBORS! I am not trying to boink your wife and she's not trying to boink me, it's just two people running. Some people are just the jealous type. You can't do anything about that but be the bigger person. And frankly, you don't need that kind of drama in your life. To the person who said it's `emotional cheating' I call BS. Men and women can be platonic friends, I have many many female friends with whom I've never considered getting naked with and hang out with without having impure thoughts. And I have to comment on the `church-going type' comment -- what a bunch of hooey. You are a good person because you're a good person, not because you go to church. Some people I know who are church-goers are some of the worst people I know. And people I know who've never set foot in a church are some of the best people I know.
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kido - 2012-09-27 11:02 AM As for the training partner issue... It's always a slippery slope with dealing the opposit sex. My wife has a lot of "fans" and many times, I have to accept the comments I see on FB, the calls, the flirting that goes on between performers, etc. I trust HER completely, just not the dudes (and some GIRLS! GIGGITY!) that she has to associate with. Only a few have outright tried to make things happen, but the rest? They are hovering in the wings and wouldn't waste a second jumping at the chance if she accepted their advances. There have been a FEW times I needed to put my foot down. The midnight calls, or the over the line comments on FB. I had to make my presence known a few times - which is usually enough to get them to back off. I'm just saying, if the OP did nothing innapropriate (which is sounds like), then it's not on her. It's between the guy and his wife. You don't know WHAT is going on under that roof. Personally, FOR ME, I just know it's probably easier to avoid spending a lot of time with another women alone for whatever reason. In a group situation? No problem. But kowing the tensions or potential weird feeling that MAY result, it's easier just to not do it. A few of the wife's friens have asked if they could go running with me, and I just sort of waffle around it and get out of the situation as nicely as I can. It's just awkward. My wife is hardly the jealous type either, BUT, it's just easier not putting myself in the position, you know? Works for me, YMMV.
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Sensei ![]() | ![]() mr2tony - 2012-09-27 10:10 AM Kido - 2012-09-27 11:02 AM Jim, there's something I need to tell you about that night in London ... As for the training partner issue... It's always a slippery slope with dealing the opposit sex. My wife has a lot of "fans" and many times, I have to accept the comments I see on FB, the calls, the flirting that goes on between performers, etc. I trust HER completely, just not the dudes (and some GIRLS! GIGGITY!) that she has to associate with. Only a few have outright tried to make things happen, but the rest? They are hovering in the wings and wouldn't waste a second jumping at the chance if she accepted their advances. There have been a FEW times I needed to put my foot down. The midnight calls, or the over the line comments on FB. I had to make my presence known a few times - which is usually enough to get them to back off. I'm just saying, if the OP did nothing innapropriate (which is sounds like), then it's not on her. It's between the guy and his wife. You don't know WHAT is going on under that roof. Personally, FOR ME, I just know it's probably easier to avoid spending a lot of time with another women alone for whatever reason. In a group situation? No problem. But kowing the tensions or potential weird feeling that MAY result, it's easier just to not do it. A few of the wife's friens have asked if they could go running with me, and I just sort of waffle around it and get out of the situation as nicely as I can. It's just awkward. My wife is hardly the jealous type either, BUT, it's just easier not putting myself in the position, you know? Works for me, YMMV.
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kido - 2012-09-27 12:13 PM mr2tony - 2012-09-27 10:10 AM Kido - 2012-09-27 11:02 AM Jim, there's something I need to tell you about that night in London ... As for the training partner issue... It's always a slippery slope with dealing the opposit sex. My wife has a lot of "fans" and many times, I have to accept the comments I see on FB, the calls, the flirting that goes on between performers, etc. I trust HER completely, just not the dudes (and some GIRLS! GIGGITY!) that she has to associate with. Only a few have outright tried to make things happen, but the rest? They are hovering in the wings and wouldn't waste a second jumping at the chance if she accepted their advances. There have been a FEW times I needed to put my foot down. The midnight calls, or the over the line comments on FB. I had to make my presence known a few times - which is usually enough to get them to back off. I'm just saying, if the OP did nothing innapropriate (which is sounds like), then it's not on her. It's between the guy and his wife. You don't know WHAT is going on under that roof. Personally, FOR ME, I just know it's probably easier to avoid spending a lot of time with another women alone for whatever reason. In a group situation? No problem. But kowing the tensions or potential weird feeling that MAY result, it's easier just to not do it. A few of the wife's friens have asked if they could go running with me, and I just sort of waffle around it and get out of the situation as nicely as I can. It's just awkward. My wife is hardly the jealous type either, BUT, it's just easier not putting myself in the position, you know? Works for me, YMMV.
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kido - 2012-09-27 11:53 AM "Fun Fact". The pastor of my old church had an affair with one of the college girls in the youth group, which resulted in the divorce from his wife and losing his 3 kids and getting kicked out of the church... I trust people as individuals, not the fact that they go to church or not. Well now that this thread is fully derailed in several directions, I will say that as a pastor of two small country congregations, this x1000. I have sooooo much to say if I want to go off on many tangents, but really, what has been said already bears out. I read a great commentary in a professional context once that was about clergy discussing parish issues among themselves. One was aghast at the things going on. Another said "so, why is it that you and the congregation, on a weekly basis, publicly confess that you are sinners, then act surprised when people prove it?" |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() | ![]() Kido - 2012-09-27 10:02 AM As for the training partner issue... It's always a slippery slope with dealing the opposit sex. My wife has a lot of "fans" and many times, I have to accept the comments I see on FB, the calls, the flirting that goes on between performers, etc. I trust HER completely, just not the dudes (and some GIRLS! GIGGITY!) that she has to associate with. Only a few have outright tried to make things happen, but the rest? They are hovering in the wings and wouldn't waste a second jumping at the chance if she accepted their advances. There have been a FEW times I needed to put my foot down. The midnight calls, or the over the line comments on FB. I had to make my presence known a few times - which is usually enough to get them to back off. I'm just saying, if the OP did nothing innapropriate (which is sounds like), then it's not on her. It's between the guy and his wife. You don't know WHAT is going on under that roof. Personally, FOR ME, I just know it's probably easier to avoid spending a lot of time with another women alone for whatever reason. In a group situation? No problem. But kowing the tensions or potential weird feeling that MAY result, it's easier just to not do it. A few of the wife's friens have asked if they could go running with me, and I just sort of waffle around it and get out of the situation as nicely as I can. It's just awkward. My wife is hardly the jealous type either, BUT, it's just easier not putting myself in the position, you know? Works for me, YMMV.
Yes, this all makes sense! I do agree with these sentiments, kind of like better safe than sorry. I'm hoping to hook up with a female tri club in the area so I don't have to deal with the complications of frequently training with a member of the opposite sex. I'll still train with male partners if the occasion arrises but I'll not make it a habit anymore, lesson learned. Patsy
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Left Brain - 2012-09-27 11:23 AM Goosedog - 2012-09-27 10:18 AM Left Brain - 2012-09-27 11:16 AM We can train together, I don't care what you look like...I will not be tempted....there is no way I need more women. Just FYI, I'm a guy. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I couldn't tell with the underwear over your head. Who but a man would do that? (Well, my dog has been known to get the underwear wrapped up around her head, but that is another tale...get it? tail?) |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() | ![]() Sous - 2012-09-27 9:25 AM PatsyID - 2012-09-26 10:32 PM Sous - 2012-09-26 2:27 PM ChineseDemocracy - 2012-09-25 10:19 PM That sucks you had to go through that mess. That said, I was struck by one sentence:
Church or no church, I've seen enough to know it makes no difference.
I agree with this, when I was reading this the first thing I said to myself was "what does that have to do with anything." I was also struck by the statement that the club isn't very active, so its easier for you to text/email/call each other to set up training... and then you went on to say that the proverbial 'straw' was that you were cleaning up after a race this inactive club puts on. Maybe its me and my background, but this raised my spidey senses... maybe it did for her as well. I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong, but if it were my investigation these statements alone would make me want to dig deeper. You got it Phill I'm a man stealing christian who likes to help out my club when asked, yep, your spidey senses are top notch.
Anyway, thank you everyone else for your thoughts, I think your consesus is right, I just don't know what their relationship is like but obviously his spouse is not cool with me being his trainng partner so that's that. I actually do take it personally, b/c I know she's thinking all these wrong horrible things about me....achk, screw it, her problem, I soo need a female partner so I don't have to deal with this crap again. Patsy Sorry that you disagree with the fact that going to church doesn't somehow makes a person less fallible, and I'm also sorry that you posted your story on the internet and I didn't realize that you were only seeking advice and opinions that are in support of your position. I really do hope the situation works out for you. Just to be clear on this end, I do not think going to church makes one "less fallible", actually quite the opposite, I thank God for His Grace and hope to be a better person but unfortunately its a circle of sin I can't seem to break And I do believe this thread is desintegrating, that's a-ok with me, thanks for the dialogue everyone! Patsy |
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