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2012-11-23 6:11 PM
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Gotten a shot every year. No adverse reactions. A little pain around the injection site, but that's it. Not even any flu-like symptoms that I can remember.


2012-11-23 7:22 PM
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mgalanter - 2012-11-23 10:54 AM

When something goes awry in a person's life they often look for a reason. Flu shot (and vaccines in general) have gotten beaten up by the paranoid even though no demonstrable causation.

While the benefits of a flu shot are debatable (its not anywhere as benefitial as a Polio or Smallpox vaccine) - the negatives are not as bad or common as many think. Maybe 1-in-a-million with a egg allergy will react but it won't give your kids autism or give you MS.

Last year I got the flu shot and a whole bunch of terrible things follwed:

1.  A month later I developed a bad achilies inflamation that set my running back 6 months

2. With in a week of the shot my car's transmission broke down on my way to work

3.  The day I got the shot a volcano erupted in Indonesia (didn't really affect me but the news coverage was scary)

4. My cat scratched up my leather couch

5. I had a sore shoulder for two days

 

Please don't stereotype a large portion of the population, myself included, as being paranoid about not wanting to be forced to inject some unknown substance into my body when there is absolutely no evidence to prove that it will prevent me from getting the flu. 34 years flu free, I don't see a need to get a flu shot.  If you believe everything that your told by a for-profit industry, that in conjunction with the government forces you to take something, that's your choice.  My choice is to use the method that's prevented me from getting sick for 34 years.  Don't call be paranoid.  There are words for people on your side of the fence too.



1. There is ALOT of paranoia regarding the flu shot- the chance of getting GBS is actually greater if you get influenza vs getting the shot http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/guillainbarre.htm.There is zero evidence for autism and the vaccine. http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/im/q_a_thimerosal-eng.php http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/thimerosal/thimerosal_tim...
2. There is a ton of evidence to prove it's effective (at protecting against the common flu sub-types)..do a search http://www.thecochranelibrary.com/details/collection/978807/Influen...
3.The people who are pushing the flu shot are front line workers who see the effects of influenza (especially in kids and the elderly) every year. We have ZERO interest in The industry
4. The decision is obviously yours; at least make an informed decision. Your flu shot will also help protect your loved one.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/keyfacts.htm
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/influenza/index-eng.php
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs211/en/
http://www.influenzaspecialistgroup.org.au/vaccinations/myths-&-mis...


Oh and by the way, what you're stating is in fact paranoia.

Definition
Paranoia is an unfounded or exaggerated distrust of others, sometimes reaching delusional proportions. Paranoid individuals constantly suspect the motives of those around them, and believe that certain individuals, or people in general, are "out to get them."
2012-11-23 9:39 PM
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I'm not sure how many flu shots I've given over the last few years, more than a thousand for sure.  And I've only had to report 2 real adverse reactions, and they were just allergies/rash.  No guillian-barre and nothing severe.  Most people just get a bit sore within the following few hours, and that lasts for only a day or two. 

I have people claim they get sick when they get it, and while its true you can develop some mild flu like symptoms, it is mild.   Over the last 20 years or so, I don't recall the exact statistics (and I'm too lazy to look it up, check the CDC website if interested),  but somewhere like 80% of the formulations from year to year have been effective for that years flu. And even if you are young and in perfect health, the flu can take you out for a few weeks. Last time I had it, I was virtually unconscious for 2 days, felt absolutely terrible for a week, and was fatigued for at least 2 weeks after. 

Just get the shot. Even if you only get the flu once every 20 years, it is still worth it.  And just preventing the spread of it to others who could potentially die from it is worth it.   

2012-11-24 1:10 AM
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TEST DUMMY - 2012-11-23 1:51 PM
This is the only time out of the whole year I get sick. Coincidence?


Yes, absolutely.

The flu shot will not make you sick, it is not a live virus as another poster mentioned. It may make you FEEL sick as in achy and feverish because it is supposed to elicit an immune response to your body. The aches and malaise are from the body's response...it means the flu shot is working and your body is developing immunity to the antigens in that years shot.
2012-11-24 1:10 AM
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ImSore - 2012-11-23 8:39 PM
And just preventing the spread of it to others who could potentially die from it is worth it.   



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2012-11-24 1:18 AM
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divemed06 - 2012-11-23 6:22 PM

RookieIM - 2012-11-23 1:03 PM

mgalanter - 2012-11-23 10:54 AM

When something goes awry in a person's life they often look for a reason. Flu shot (and vaccines in general) have gotten beaten up by the paranoid even though no demonstrable causation.

While the benefits of a flu shot are debatable (its not anywhere as benefitial as a Polio or Smallpox vaccine) - the negatives are not as bad or common as many think. Maybe 1-in-a-million with a egg allergy will react but it won't give your kids autism or give you MS.

Last year I got the flu shot and a whole bunch of terrible things follwed:

1.  A month later I developed a bad achilies inflamation that set my running back 6 months

2. With in a week of the shot my car's transmission broke down on my way to work

3.  The day I got the shot a volcano erupted in Indonesia (didn't really affect me but the news coverage was scary)

4. My cat scratched up my leather couch

5. I had a sore shoulder for two days

 

Please don't stereotype a large portion of the population, myself included, as being paranoid about not wanting to be forced to inject some unknown substance into my body when there is absolutely no evidence to prove that it will prevent me from getting the flu. 34 years flu free, I don't see a need to get a flu shot.  If you believe everything that your told by a for-profit industry, that in conjunction with the government forces you to take something, that's your choice.  My choice is to use the method that's prevented me from getting sick for 34 years.  Don't call be paranoid.  There are words for people on your side of the fence too.



1. There is ALOT of paranoia regarding the flu shot- the chance of getting GBS is actually greater if you get influenza vs getting the shot http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/guillainbarre.htm.There is zero evidence for autism and the vaccine. http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/im/q_a_thimerosal-eng.php http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/thimerosal/thimerosal_tim...
2. There is a ton of evidence to prove it's effective (at protecting against the common flu sub-types)..do a search http://www.thecochranelibrary.com/details/collection/978807/Influen...
3.The people who are pushing the flu shot are front line workers who see the effects of influenza (especially in kids and the elderly) every year. We have ZERO interest in The industry
4. The decision is obviously yours; at least make an informed decision. Your flu shot will also help protect your loved one.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/keyfacts.htm
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/influenza/index-eng.php
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs211/en/
http://www.influenzaspecialistgroup.org.au/vaccinations/myths-&-mis...


Oh and by the way, what you're stating is in fact paranoia.

Definition
Paranoia is an unfounded or exaggerated distrust of others, sometimes reaching delusional proportions. Paranoid individuals constantly suspect the motives of those around them, and believe that certain individuals, or people in general, are "out to get them."


Post of the year, thanks!


2012-11-24 2:22 AM
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Never had one until this year but, got one after my mother-in-law continuously insisted (prior to a family cruise).  I'm happy to report that getting the vaccine was 100% effective against the badgering from my MIL - that stopped immediately   And no, I did not feel any untoward side effects from the vaccine itself.
2012-11-24 12:40 PM
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I have kids and they catch everything and pass it on to me. From ages 3 to 6 I swear they were trying to kill me. I've religiously had my flu shot every year. Two years ago I forgot and was really healthy through the winter but sure enough...the buggers gave me the flu and after a week on the couch fretting about all the training I was missing and my upcoming race I will never pass it up again! My business partner is a product of Berkeley in the 60's and thinks its a Gov't conspiracy but every time he catches it and my training schedule doesn't miss a beat, I'm quick to ask how that consipracy is treating him...the evidence is pretty clear that it works...Gov't conspiracy or not. The nasal alternative is available for those with a fear of needles....
2012-11-24 12:49 PM
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This year - run on lunch, flu shot in the afternoon, trainer ride in the evening, swim the next afternoon.  Popped an advil after the shot to reduce the inflamation/soreness and felt fine swimming the next day.
2012-11-25 12:45 AM
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Every single year since 1998 or so...along with varying numbers of doses of typhoid, yellow fever, small pox, anthrax, and probably a bunch of other things I don't even remember.  If they say I need a shot I just roll up my sleeve.  I stopped asking a long time ago.

I'm not dead yet.  And I've never had the flu or flu-like symptoms from the flu shot.  Come to think of it...I don't think I've ever gotten the flu in general.

2012-11-25 12:55 AM
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Nope....never.  


2012-11-25 5:28 AM
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texasgrrl - 2012-11-23 9:59 AM Well, I'm an RN (I know..I should not be having irrational fears! and my employer "requires" all employees to have the flu shot.  Even in nursing school it was required but I managed to squeak under the radar and not get  the shot.  I'm just worried I will be the "one in a million" person who gets Guillam-barre syndrome..I guess I should just relax..

 

Ahhhhh... "medical student's disease."  Fun stuff.

2012-11-25 8:48 AM
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I have had GBS.  I don't get flu shots.  Permanent paralysis is not something I want to sign up for.
2012-11-25 2:15 PM
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I don't get sick. Once a year I might get a runny nose for a few days but I've never missed a day of work in 25 years because I was sick....never had a fever (that i know of) since I was a child.

Injured? Yes, blew out both knees, herniated a couple of discs, tore ligaments, broke bones....but I never get sick.

So my thinking is, if I ain't broke.....

Sorry you have to get one for your job but I can see where hospitals need to err on the side of caution.
2012-11-25 2:35 PM
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Once for a trip to Bali it was recommended.My parents get a free shot in the UK all pensioners do flu could easily kill an 80 yr old
2012-11-25 3:57 PM
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I was a completely healthy and strong 26-year old when I got H1N1, and it nearly killed me. I was hospitalized and missed close to a month of work. I haven't missed a flu shot since and have never experienced any negative side effects.



2012-11-26 7:48 AM
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pennyminpin - 2012-11-25 8:48 AM

I have had GBS.  I don't get flu shots.  Permanent paralysis is not something I want to sign up for.


Do you know what caused it?
2012-11-26 8:06 AM
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Rogillio - 2012-11-25 3:15 PM I don't get sick. Once a year I might get a runny nose for a few days but I've never missed a day of work in 25 years because I was sick....never had a fever (that i know of) since I was a child. Injured? Yes, blew out both knees, herniated a couple of discs, tore ligaments, broke bones....but I never get sick. So my thinking is, if I ain't broke..... Sorry you have to get one for your job but I can see where hospitals need to err on the side of caution.

i don't get the flu shot for me.  i got it for my good friend who has a destroyed immune system as she goes through chemotherapy, i would hate to be the one who carried a flu virus and gave it to her.  i also got it for my nephew due to be born in january since he won't have any protection himself this winter.

i hate needles.  a LOT.  i had the flu a few years ago (swine flu and it was miserable) and still didn't get the shot.  but now that i'm going to be around people that truly need the protection, i felt that i had to get it.  i had no reaction at all (besides the ridiculous panic i get whenever i see a needle )

2012-11-26 11:02 AM
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kevinbe - 2012-11-23 5:28 PM Does anyone actually know what's in these vaccinations? 

Only those that bother to read up on it do.  It's certainly better understood what's in them than any herbal remedy.

Basically its a steralized growth meduim (egg), de-activated virus strains (typically ~3 strains) and stabilizer.  The stabilizer, Thimerosal, has gotten a bad rap becasue its a complex molecule containing Hg (mercury).  The scientifically illiterate panic at the sound of mercury. But lets not be scientifically illiterate and run some numbers: flu vaccines contain 12.5 micrograms of mercury in the form of Thimerosal. A salmon steak or 6oz of tuna fish contain between 20 and 100 micrograms of mercury. So eat some trout instead of tuna and get the flu shot.

2012-11-26 11:41 AM
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Rogillio - 2012-11-25 3:15 PM I don't get sick. Once a year I might get a runny nose for a few days but I've never missed a day of work in 25 years because I was sick....never had a fever (that i know of) since I was a child. Injured? Yes, blew out both knees, herniated a couple of discs, tore ligaments, broke bones....but I never get sick. So my thinking is, if I ain't broke..... Sorry you have to get one for your job but I can see where hospitals need to err on the side of caution.

i don't get the flu shot for me.  i got it for my good friend who has a destroyed immune system as she goes through chemotherapy, i would hate to be the one who carried a flu virus and gave it to her.  i also got it for my nephew due to be born in january since he won't have any protection himself this winter.

i hate needles.  a LOT.  i had the flu a few years ago (swine flu and it was miserable) and still didn't get the shot.  but now that i'm going to be around people that truly need the protection, i felt that i had to get it.  i had no reaction at all (besides the ridiculous panic i get whenever i see a needle )




Just a quick point. Getting the flu shot does not mean you won't get the flu...it just (hopefully) reduces the changes. There is a lot debate on the effectiveness of the vaccine....... It's hard to do a study though because you have some people like with who are not gonna get the flu regardless of wether or not they get the shot. And some people are gonna get the flu even after getting the shot. It seems to mostly depend on the person getting the shot and their immune system.

Good for you for overcoming your aversion to needles and getting it anyway.

It seems to have the highest effectiveness on elderly people.
2012-11-26 12:00 PM
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Rogillio - 2012-11-26 10:41 AM

mehaner - 2012-11-26 8:06 AM

Rogillio - 2012-11-25 3:15 PM I don't get sick. Once a year I might get a runny nose for a few days but I've never missed a day of work in 25 years because I was sick....never had a fever (that i know of) since I was a child. Injured? Yes, blew out both knees, herniated a couple of discs, tore ligaments, broke bones....but I never get sick. So my thinking is, if I ain't broke..... Sorry you have to get one for your job but I can see where hospitals need to err on the side of caution.

i don't get the flu shot for me.  i got it for my good friend who has a destroyed immune system as she goes through chemotherapy, i would hate to be the one who carried a flu virus and gave it to her.  i also got it for my nephew due to be born in january since he won't have any protection himself this winter.

i hate needles.  a LOT.  i had the flu a few years ago (swine flu and it was miserable) and still didn't get the shot.  but now that i'm going to be around people that truly need the protection, i felt that i had to get it.  i had no reaction at all (besides the ridiculous panic i get whenever i see a needle )




Just a quick point. Getting the flu shot does not mean you won't get the flu...it just (hopefully) reduces the changes. There is a lot debate on the effectiveness of the vaccine....... It's hard to do a study though because you have some people like with who are not gonna get the flu regardless of wether or not they get the shot. And some people are gonna get the flu even after getting the shot. It seems to mostly depend on the person getting the shot and their immune system.

Good for you for overcoming your aversion to needles and getting it anyway.

It seems to have the highest effectiveness on elderly people.


ill just add to this that very few people who get "flu like" illnesses #1 actually have influenza and #2 get tested for the type of influenza.

the influenza virus is a very sophisticated little critter that undergoes continuous invasion into various hosts where it can get recombined into a new variety...part if its ability to continue to evade any hopes of us eradicating it, unlike other viruses like smallpox or even chickenpox.

the strains used in the vaccination are actual strains from that year that are circulating in other parts of the world. there is an awful lot of science behind their effectiveness and their content every year.

on the other hand there are more than 200 other viruses known and surely many we don't know than can cause "flu like" symptoms in healthy young adults and would not be covered in the annual flu shot. in the past 2 years the CDC no longer recommends that only high risk individuals get the flu shot, they recommend that ALL individuals get it.

for what its worth, i actually do get side effects in the form of a diffuse skin rash which was reportable, as well as severe, but local, allergic reactions causing my entire arm to swell.

as a result i get the nasal vaccine each year, which is a live killed virus ( oxymoron, no?) and requires me to be away from patient care for 5 days following. as a bonus, it also lacks thimerisol. but since i eat salmon and have mercury fillings, thats a moot point.



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2012-11-26 12:06 PM
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Rogillio - 2012-11-26 12:41 PM
mehaner - 2012-11-26 8:06 AM

Rogillio - 2012-11-25 3:15 PM I don't get sick. Once a year I might get a runny nose for a few days but I've never missed a day of work in 25 years because I was sick....never had a fever (that i know of) since I was a child. Injured? Yes, blew out both knees, herniated a couple of discs, tore ligaments, broke bones....but I never get sick. So my thinking is, if I ain't broke..... Sorry you have to get one for your job but I can see where hospitals need to err on the side of caution.

i don't get the flu shot for me.  i got it for my good friend who has a destroyed immune system as she goes through chemotherapy, i would hate to be the one who carried a flu virus and gave it to her.  i also got it for my nephew due to be born in january since he won't have any protection himself this winter.

i hate needles.  a LOT.  i had the flu a few years ago (swine flu and it was miserable) and still didn't get the shot.  but now that i'm going to be around people that truly need the protection, i felt that i had to get it.  i had no reaction at all (besides the ridiculous panic i get whenever i see a needle )

Just a quick point. Getting the flu shot does not mean you won't get the flu...it just (hopefully) reduces the changes. There is a lot debate on the effectiveness of the vaccine....... It's hard to do a study though because you have some people like with who are not gonna get the flu regardless of wether or not they get the shot. And some people are gonna get the flu even after getting the shot. It seems to mostly depend on the person getting the shot and their immune system. Good for you for overcoming your aversion to needles and getting it anyway. It seems to have the highest effectiveness on elderly people.

i actually have very severe asthma and have gotten the flu somewhat recently (in a year i did not get a shot), i'm actually a very high-risk flu shot candidate.  the last time i got a flu shot (2006) i did not get the flu.  i do get sick a lot, in general.  i'll do whatever i can to reduce the risk of infecting people that can't protect themselves. 

2012-11-26 12:22 PM
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texasgrrl - 2012-11-23 6:01 PM

I tend to feel similarly to RookieIM..I don't like being "required" to inject myself with a vaccine if I don't want to..Obviously, I don't want to get others with a lower immune system sick in case I am carrying the virus, but at the same time, I don't really want to get the vaccine..Anyway, I'm not afraid of "getting the flu"..I'm more afraid of the Guillam Barre possibility..but I know that's unlikely.  I'll "roll the dice" as another poster put it and hope for the best.  It seems pretty unlikely I will have untoward effects..As far as "what's in" the vaccine..who knows.  There are the 3 strains of virus and then some preservatives...



You know you can get Guillaine Barre from the flu just like you can get it from the vaccine, right?

You are rolling the dice either way.

I love the media coverage of things like the bird flu where, "141 people have died from the bird flu this year." They forget to mention that 1000s die every year from regular old flu. Putting it like that is boring and doesn't help with lead-in news stories at 11:00.

Some years I have gotten a couple flu shots, one at each hospital I work at, because it was easier than going and getting the paperwork to prove I had already done it. I think people who don't get vaccines are a little crazy. Jenny McCarthy should be castigated for the damage she has done to American healthcare with her unsupported crusade against vaccines. Just my opinion. I am sure it will inflame some.......
2012-11-26 1:28 PM
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mer456 - 2012-11-23 4:50 PM

The flu vaccine is NOT a live virus vaccine (most vaccines are not live virus, the most common live virus vaccines are MMR, varicella and yellow fever) meaning you cannot get the flu from receiving the vaccine. 

Also, there are MANY strains of influenza. The flu vaccine contains just 3. Those three are the best guess by the CDC (and probably other organizations) as to the strains that will be most prevalent. Some times they are right, other times, not so much. It's hard to know what strains will be the most prevalent. 

Additionally, most people confuse 'flu-like symptoms' with influenza. Most people who say they got the flu, most likely did not. 

Let us also remember herd immunity. Simply because I am young and most likely would be fine even if I did get the flu, it's not really about ME. It's about anyone that is immuno-suppressed that I may come into contact with, like my grandparents or young cousins. Or my co-worker who has a new baby. Getting the flu vaccine isn't about me, it's about protecting 1) people who have a weaker immune system and 2) people who have perhaps an egg allergy and cannot receive the vaccine. 

Anyway, I used to work in the vaccine industry and got my vaccines for free. My current employer provides the flu vaccine for free as well. 

Just a clarification: the nasal mist flu vaccine is attenuated (live less virulent) virus.  There is a small chance that you can get the flu from the nasal mist, which is why it is not recommended for young children, people over 50, and high risk individuals.  For example, I have asthma, so I cannot get the nasal mist.



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2012-11-26 1:41 PM
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texasgrrl - 2012-11-23 6:01 PM

I tend to feel similarly to RookieIM..I don't like being "required" to inject myself with a vaccine if I don't want to..Obviously, I don't want to get others with a lower immune system sick in case I am carrying the virus, but at the same time, I don't really want to get the vaccine..Anyway, I'm not afraid of "getting the flu"..I'm more afraid of the Guillam Barre possibility..but I know that's unlikely.  I'll "roll the dice" as another poster put it and hope for the best.  It seems pretty unlikely I will have untoward effects..As far as "what's in" the vaccine..who knows.  There are the 3 strains of virus and then some preservatives...



You know you can get Guillaine Barre from the flu just like you can get it from the vaccine, right?

You are rolling the dice either way.

I love the media coverage of things like the bird flu where, "141 people have died from the bird flu this year." They forget to mention that 1000s die every year from regular old flu. Putting it like that is boring and doesn't help with lead-in news stories at 11:00.

Some years I have gotten a couple flu shots, one at each hospital I work at, because it was easier than going and getting the paperwork to prove I had already done it. I think people who don't get vaccines are a little crazy. Jenny McCarthy should be castigated for the damage she has done to American healthcare with her unsupported crusade against vaccines. Just my opinion. I am sure it will inflame some.......


I have this discussion with people every year. It's hard to find reliable date/studies on this but just for argument sake, I will make up some numbers.

Let's say 100 people got the vaccine
- 80 of them never come in contact with the virus
- 20 of them come in contact with the virus
10 of them got the flu anyway
10 of them did not get flu
of the 10 that did not get the flu, 5 of them were not gonna get the flu even w/o the vaccine

So you vaccinated 100 people and you stopped 5 people from getting the flu.

Again, I've tried to find real numbers to make this argument in times past but there simply are no reliable data.

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