IRS To Tea Party: Sorry We Targeted You And Your Tax Status (Page 2)

Oh please.  Isn't it clear this Bush appointee is being paid off in Obama Bucks?  And, if not, he was obviously a Democratic plant disguised as a Republican.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's crucial that the GOP hammer Obama, period.  If Obama is completing 7 1/2 years with approval ratings still high, he will be a huge campaigning force for the Democrats in 2016.  The Omen's Damien music will continue to be on Obama videos on Fox News.  That's just the way it is.

Who cares?... Bush wasn't even running... but we had to listen to The Dems/Obama complain incessantly about Bush.... heck, and that wasn't even good enough... because for the first two years of his Presidency, we still had to hear about Bush... who wasn't in office. When they both do it, it's sort of silly to call the other side out for it.

I don't disagree politically speaking. 

I know it's wishful thinking, but I just want our federal government to be what it's supposed to be and have the proper rules and oversight to keep out the corruption no matter who is in office.  I would say the most troubling issue is the buddy buddy nature the AG's have with the President.  Lets say President X does something blatantly illegal, but the AG who is appointed by him doesn't choose to press charges then we're stuck with impeachment as the only option.  However, if the President in power has one side of the congress locked up then he's virtually immune from the law.  That is dangerous period.

I agree with him being a huge campaigning force in 2016, hell that's all he has done since taking office, that is besides taking vacations, and golf.

I'll take "Which one of these does NOT erupt with regularity" for $500, Alex.

Sad, but true.

Just look at the US attorney's scandal from the previous administration. If we can't even expect our US Attorney's to be free from political pressure to push one party's agenda, why would you expect any part of the government to remain non-partisan? Again, this is why I can't ever vote for anyone with a D or an R by their name.

I'm surprised this thread isn't getting more 'run'.   IMO THIS is a scandal.  Blatant govt. over reach and abuse of public trust.  And MY GUY B.O. had better get in front of it or I'll be on his a##, too.

My opinion. If this doesn't go further than Benghazi, it's because the House Reps really don't understand the rules around the IRS, or it's not "sexy" like 4 dead Americans. I'm more upset about Benghazi, but this is more clearly improper.

I'm really not sure "I learned about it when you did" is the right answer even if it's true.

Edited by GomesBolt 2013-05-13 7:52 PM

I guess I'm wondering what he does know about. He didn't know about the Talking Points on Benghazi, he didn't know about Fast and Furious, he didn't know about the IRS, he didn't know about the AP wire tap, what does he know about?

You're absolutely right. I should've said "AP Records Seizure without warning." You are correct to call me on that. But it doesn't change my point and I see you acknowledge that fact.

I made a comment earlier on the Benghazi thread that I'm always nervous when someone with no leadership experience is put in a position requiring leadership. Obama's "I didn't know" is a perfect example of why leadership experience is important. Anyone whose ever been in charge but with a boss to report to will tell you that answer is a non-starter. If my Commanding Officer in the Marine Corps or my VP now called me up about a failure in my group that I didn't know about, I'd be in deep kimchee. If the best answer after several days and tons of advisors is "I didn't know" that's a sign that he doesn't think he owes anyone an explanation.

A president doesn't need to be a micromanager, but if his answer is "I didn't know" he quickly loses any credibility for the office. By the way, Reagan was a well known micro-manager which is why his "I have no recollection" answers at the Iran Contra Affair were so aggravating to the hearing committee.

Revealed: The 55 questions the IRS asked one tea party group after more than two years of waiting – including demands for names of all its donors and volunteers

The demanding of donor names and volunteers seems a little interesting.  I'll be honest, I don't know if that's standard stuff as part of a non profit audit and it may be a non issue.  However, on the surface it seems to be quite bad.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/14/jon_stewart_rips_obama_for_fueling_conspiracy_theorists_with_irs_scandal.html.

You forgot "faux outrage".

By the way, if you want to see some outrage, turn on MSNBC right now. The worm is turning before my eyes.

Personally I have two choices.  Either I believe he didn't know about any of these things, which means this guy is an absolute moron and people under him just do whatever they want, or he knew about everything and its part of his game.  If I am to believe what dems and media types lead people to believe about his great intelligence, deep thought, smartest president, etc., then he is guilty as sin.  About the only thing he claims to have known about his whole time in office is the killing of bin Laden.

What's the biggest issue of the 4 right now?

-Benghazi

-IRS

-DOJ/AP

-Kathleen Sebelius shaking-down executives for funds to implement the Affordable Care Act even after spending over $150 Million that was not earmarked for the ACA on its implementation.