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2013-07-09 5:01 PM in reply to: KateTri1 |
Elite 5145 Cleveland | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? What is really crazy in this story is that they also pulled the same crap at their parent's home in the same neighborhood. How many homes do you need to occupy for a domestic violence investigation?? I'm guessing the number is closer to zero than two. I seems to me more like this family was targeted. |
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2013-07-09 7:09 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by powerman Originally posted by Left Brain I'm telling you....no cop will sit in your house of they think you have a disease. Or....just start runing around clucking like a chicken and pecking at the ground.
I'm just really floored any police department would think that was an option. Let alone actually do it. I know.....but I'd also like to hear the other side....some of that story just didn't ring true with me. The cops ate food from their house? Uh.....I know cops....they're not eating anything from someone elses house that they don't know. Hell, we throw entire trays of food away that people bring to the station because we don't know where it came from. They did it to another family and it just happened to be relatives of the first family? None of that sound right to me. I am curious to the other side of the story as well. |
2013-07-09 7:11 PM in reply to: cgregg |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? Originally posted by cgregg What is really crazy in this story is that they also pulled the same crap at their parent's home in the same neighborhood. How many homes do you need to occupy for a domestic violence investigation?? I'm guessing the number is closer to zero than two. I seems to me more like this family was targeted. Yeah, it almost sounds like a ruse to do an illegal search. Yeah, we're investigating your neighbor so please get out of the house. Oh hey, what's this over here... You're under arrest. Your honor, we were in their house as part of an active investigation so we had the legal right to be there when we found X. |
2013-07-09 10:25 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by cgregg What is really crazy in this story is that they also pulled the same crap at their parent's home in the same neighborhood. How many homes do you need to occupy for a domestic violence investigation?? I'm guessing the number is closer to zero than two. I seems to me more like this family was targeted. Yeah, it almost sounds like a ruse to do an illegal search. Yeah, we're investigating your neighbor so please get out of the house. Oh hey, what's this over here... You're under arrest. Your honor, we were in their house as part of an active investigation so we had the legal right to be there when we found X. Tony....you may need to tighten up the hat a bit......the x-rays are getting in. |
2013-07-10 7:30 AM in reply to: Left Brain |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by cgregg What is really crazy in this story is that they also pulled the same crap at their parent's home in the same neighborhood. How many homes do you need to occupy for a domestic violence investigation?? I'm guessing the number is closer to zero than two. I seems to me more like this family was targeted. Yeah, it almost sounds like a ruse to do an illegal search. Yeah, we're investigating your neighbor so please get out of the house. Oh hey, what's this over here... You're under arrest. Your honor, we were in their house as part of an active investigation so we had the legal right to be there when we found X. Tony....you may need to tighten up the hat a bit......the x-rays are getting in. lol, hey I'm on to you guys. |
2013-07-10 9:02 AM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by cgregg What is really crazy in this story is that they also pulled the same crap at their parent's home in the same neighborhood. How many homes do you need to occupy for a domestic violence investigation?? I'm guessing the number is closer to zero than two. I seems to me more like this family was targeted. Yeah, it almost sounds like a ruse to do an illegal search. Yeah, we're investigating your neighbor so please get out of the house. Oh hey, what's this over here... You're under arrest. Your honor, we were in their house as part of an active investigation so we had the legal right to be there when we found X. Tony....you may need to tighten up the hat a bit......the x-rays are getting in. lol, hey I'm on to you guys. HA!! It's a crazy story for sure....but there's alot missing there. It's hard to figure out what really happened from reading it. The writer used the word "investigation"....hell, they could have been dealing with a guy who was holding a family hostage next store for all I know (and no, in my mind that still doesn't give them the right or authority to remove someone from their home, but it sheds a different light)... still, I've learned to be really careful coming to conclusions based on what I read on one of those rags. I've seen alot of people misquoted over the years, and outright lies from the press just to get a story out. That being ssaid, just so there is no misunderstanding, I can only think of a few reasons I'd remove someone from their home against their will....and they all have to do with safety of the homeowner. Believe it or not....some folks are REALLY stupid. Edited by Left Brain 2013-07-10 9:04 AM |
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2013-07-10 10:02 AM in reply to: Left Brain |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by cgregg What is really crazy in this story is that they also pulled the same crap at their parent's home in the same neighborhood. How many homes do you need to occupy for a domestic violence investigation?? I'm guessing the number is closer to zero than two. I seems to me more like this family was targeted. Yeah, it almost sounds like a ruse to do an illegal search. Yeah, we're investigating your neighbor so please get out of the house. Oh hey, what's this over here... You're under arrest. Your honor, we were in their house as part of an active investigation so we had the legal right to be there when we found X. Tony....you may need to tighten up the hat a bit......the x-rays are getting in. lol, hey I'm on to you guys. HA!! It's a crazy story for sure....but there's alot missing there. It's hard to figure out what really happened from reading it. The writer used the word "investigation"....hell, they could have been dealing with a guy who was holding a family hostage next store for all I know (and no, in my mind that still doesn't give them the right or authority to remove someone from their home, but it sheds a different light)... still, I've learned to be really careful coming to conclusions based on what I read on one of those rags. I've seen alot of people misquoted over the years, and outright lies from the press just to get a story out. That being ssaid, just so there is no misunderstanding, I can only think of a few reasons I'd remove someone from their home against their will....and they all have to do with safety of the homeowner. Believe it or not....some folks are REALLY stupid. I completely agree with taking stories like this at face value. Ironically, if the police did come to my door and asked (nicely) if they could come in to investigate a neighbor. I would simply state that I do not consent to a search of my house, but I would allow them to come in and observe from my premise. I wouldn't like the idea of them asking me to leave though, so I would likely rescind my invitation and my beat down would quickly ensue. If they kicked me out, I'd likely walk straight over to the neighbor and exercise my 1st Amendment right letting them know that the police were in my house watching them and wave at the police from the neighbors window. That would probably result in me getting beat down too. lol |
2013-07-10 10:02 AM in reply to: Left Brain |
Pro 5755 | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? If this happened in Philly they would have just dropped some C-4 on the roof by helicopter, like they did to get the MOVE people to, errr, move. Pepper spray is for wimps! |
2013-07-10 1:31 PM in reply to: powerman |
Champion 7347 SRQ, FL | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? Originally posted by powerman Originally posted by KateTri1 I'm guessing a few heads are going to roll... Bottom line though.. if cops came to my door and told me to get out.. I would. I'd be pissed, but I wouldn't mess with them. some of those guys are CRAZY. Ya, no. I'm not walking out of my own home with no warrant. I'm not saying there will be a shoot out, or I will win anything, but I am not leaving without force. And then I will have my day in court. Same here. Unless you have a warrant you don't step foot in my home. |
2013-07-10 2:30 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Elite 4564 Boise | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by cgregg What is really crazy in this story is that they also pulled the same crap at their parent's home in the same neighborhood. How many homes do you need to occupy for a domestic violence investigation?? I'm guessing the number is closer to zero than two. I seems to me more like this family was targeted. Yeah, it almost sounds like a ruse to do an illegal search. Yeah, we're investigating your neighbor so please get out of the house. Oh hey, what's this over here... You're under arrest. Your honor, we were in their house as part of an active investigation so we had the legal right to be there when we found X. Tony....you may need to tighten up the hat a bit......the x-rays are getting in. lol, hey I'm on to you guys. (images.jpg) Attachments ---------------- images.jpg (10KB - 8 downloads) |
2013-07-10 2:43 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? Originally posted by Left Brain ~coughing all over everything~ "OK, sure, can I get my hepititus medicine?" Hepatitis isn't transmitted by coughing...go with tuberculosis. It's making a comeback. Also super contagious. |
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2013-07-10 2:50 PM in reply to: Artemis |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? Originally posted by Artemis Originally posted by Left Brain ~coughing all over everything~ "OK, sure, can I get my hepititus medicine?" Hepatitis isn't transmitted by coughing...go with tuberculosis. It's making a comeback. Also super contagious. We're dealing with cops here, not doctors......trust me, just cough alot and complain about any disease.....it'll look like the running of the bulls. |
2013-07-10 2:52 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by Artemis Originally posted by Left Brain ~coughing all over everything~ "OK, sure, can I get my hepititus medicine?" Hepatitis isn't transmitted by coughing...go with tuberculosis. It's making a comeback. Also super contagious. We're dealing with cops here, not doctors......trust me, just cough alot and complain about any disease.....it'll look like the running of the bulls. Didn't mean to come off as overly snarky. That was more tongue-in-cheek with your comment. Missed the |
2013-07-10 2:56 PM in reply to: Artemis |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? Originally posted by Artemis Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by Artemis Originally posted by Left Brain ~coughing all over everything~ "OK, sure, can I get my hepititus medicine?" Hepatitis isn't transmitted by coughing...go with tuberculosis. It's making a comeback. Also super contagious. We're dealing with cops here, not doctors......trust me, just cough alot and complain about any disease.....it'll look like the running of the bulls. Didn't mean to come off as overly snarky. That was more tongue-in-cheek with your comment. Missed the So was mine.....I didn't take yours as snarky....no worries. |
2013-07-11 2:45 PM in reply to: tuwood |
Champion 7821 Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? Originally posted by tuwood Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by powerman Originally posted by Left Brain I'm telling you....no cop will sit in your house of they think you have a disease. Or....just start runing around clucking like a chicken and pecking at the ground.
I'm just really floored any police department would think that was an option. Let alone actually do it. I know.....but I'd also like to hear the other side....some of that story just didn't ring true with me. The cops ate food from their house? Uh.....I know cops....they're not eating anything from someone elses house that they don't know. Hell, we throw entire trays of food away that people bring to the station because we don't know where it came from. They did it to another family and it just happened to be relatives of the first family? None of that sound right to me. I am curious to the other side of the story as well. Maybe I'm reading too much into this but: I noticed the quote from the lawyer was, “And after entering the houses, they drank water, ate food, enjoyed the air conditioning..." He didn't specifically say that the cops ate food belonging to the family, although that's certainly the impression the lawyer means for us to have. It seems curious to me that he said, "[they] ate food". Wouldn't you say, "They ate food from the family's refrigerator" or whatever, if that was the case? |
2013-07-11 2:58 PM in reply to: jmk-brooklyn |
Elite 6387 | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by tuwood Maybe I'm reading too much into this but: I noticed the quote from the lawyer was, “And after entering the houses, they drank water, ate food, enjoyed the air conditioning..." He didn't specifically say that the cops ate food belonging to the family, although that's certainly the impression the lawyer means for us to have. It seems curious to me that he said, "[they] ate food". Wouldn't you say, "They ate food from the family's refrigerator" or whatever, if that was the case? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by powerman Originally posted by Left Brain I'm telling you....no cop will sit in your house of they think you have a disease. Or....just start runing around clucking like a chicken and pecking at the ground.
I'm just really floored any police department would think that was an option. Let alone actually do it. I know.....but I'd also like to hear the other side....some of that story just didn't ring true with me. The cops ate food from their house? Uh.....I know cops....they're not eating anything from someone elses house that they don't know. Hell, we throw entire trays of food away that people bring to the station because we don't know where it came from. They did it to another family and it just happened to be relatives of the first family? None of that sound right to me. I am curious to the other side of the story as well. I took that as not being a damage that they took food... but as evidence that they ate and relaxed and therefore "quartered". I could be wrong. |
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2013-07-11 3:31 PM in reply to: jmk-brooklyn |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: 3rd Amendment Violation? Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn Originally posted by tuwood Maybe I'm reading too much into this but: I noticed the quote from the lawyer was, “And after entering the houses, they drank water, ate food, enjoyed the air conditioning..." He didn't specifically say that the cops ate food belonging to the family, although that's certainly the impression the lawyer means for us to have. It seems curious to me that he said, "[they] ate food". Wouldn't you say, "They ate food from the family's refrigerator" or whatever, if that was the case? Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by powerman Originally posted by Left Brain I'm telling you....no cop will sit in your house of they think you have a disease. Or....just start runing around clucking like a chicken and pecking at the ground.
I'm just really floored any police department would think that was an option. Let alone actually do it. I know.....but I'd also like to hear the other side....some of that story just didn't ring true with me. The cops ate food from their house? Uh.....I know cops....they're not eating anything from someone elses house that they don't know. Hell, we throw entire trays of food away that people bring to the station because we don't know where it came from. They did it to another family and it just happened to be relatives of the first family? None of that sound right to me. I am curious to the other side of the story as well. I love lawyer speak. There was a commercial on the radio over lunch about IRS tax relief attorneys. They had a guy who had $90k in back taxes and they managed to get it down to just "$4500 on his final payment" Is that $4500 after you paid the other $85.5K? lol |
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