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 2014-03-15 6:20 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Elite  3290     Oliver, BC, "Wine Capital of Canada" |  Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777Originally posted by Left Brain This is one of those deals I don't even care to follow until it is over. Every network and every news feed has a different "expert" spouting off and lining up to get paid......and the idiots all contradict each other and make the misinformation level HUGE. No thanks. I'm a student of Occam's razor..... it crashed.
That's the way feel too. |
| 2014-03-15 11:38 PM in reply to: peby |
Master 8250 Eugene, Oregon Bronze member | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 It just doesn't sound like the evidence points to a mechanical issue as the cause. Sounds like a hijacking--who knows why. My guess is the end result was a crash into the ocean, as we should have seen demands, sightings, or claims of responsibility by now. Normally I don't follow these things much but it's hitting a bit too close to "home" for comfort. Headed to Singapore next weekend and hoping I don't get a free trip to heaven, hell, or Turkmenistan. |
| 2014-03-16 12:35 PM in reply to: #4965267 |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 They never found Amelia Earhart's plane... My gut feel is it is on the ground somewhere and passengers are being held captive. |
| 2014-03-16 12:42 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 Originally posted by Rogillio They never found Amelia Earhart's plane... My gut feel is it is on the ground somewhere and passengers are being held captive. Why would they hold them captive and not just kill them if they wanted a plane for some reason? And if they weren't after the plane and wanted hostoages for some type of political statement or possible trade for other political prisoners, then why no word from suspects? Keeping 239 people hostage without moving forward with demands is no easy venture.....and pointless. Still sitting on Occam's razor here........crash, intentional or not. Edited by Left Brain 2014-03-16 12:43 PM |
| 2014-03-16 1:35 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Champion 6993 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 Originally posted by Left Brain Why would they hold them captive and not just kill them if they wanted a plane for some reason? And if they weren't after the plane and wanted hostoages for some type of political statement or possible trade for other political prisoners, then why no word from suspects? Keeping 239 people hostage without moving forward with demands is no easy venture.....and pointless. I agree. The only reason you would not kill them is if you wanted the plane is maybe you figured you could use them as hostages if you decide to move the plane. We live in a post 9/11 world so chances are I think they would shoot down the plane and not risk it being used as a weapon. The only reason I think it was not a crash at least and accidentally one is the transponders being shut off. Sad thing is I wonder how much this was a test for them to see if a group could steal a plane. Since they can not find it goes to show they figured it out. |
| 2014-03-16 2:07 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 Originally posted by chirunner134 Originally posted by Left Brain Why would they hold them captive and not just kill them if they wanted a plane for some reason? And if they weren't after the plane and wanted hostoages for some type of political statement or possible trade for other political prisoners, then why no word from suspects? Keeping 239 people hostage without moving forward with demands is no easy venture.....and pointless. Sad thing is I wonder how much this was a test for them to see if a group could steal a plane. Since they can not find it goes to show they figured it out.
Good point. Steal a plane as a test, ditch it in the ocean, get some virgins in the next life. Wacky thinking, but killing yourself in a test for something greater is right up the jihadists alley. Of course, it's all purely speculation and I have no idea where they are in the investigation. As you know, the investigators on this will be seasoned folks....they aren't likely giving the press ANYTHING worth having. Edited by Left Brain 2014-03-16 2:23 PM |
| 2014-03-16 2:21 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 We aren't the most intelligent creatures in the universe, but we have some awesome vehicles. Alien car-jacking.
You're welcome! |
| 2014-03-16 2:44 PM in reply to: #4965267 |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 Intentionally crashing into the drink doesn't fly (pun intended). The plane flew for several hours after they turned off the tracking devices....and one of them requires someone to pull a circuit breaker. If suicide was the plan, no reason to do these things. There is a satellite device that was pinging the satellite for hours. They could have tried to land in the Himalayans and failed/crashed. I will keep an eye out for them on my EBC trek.... |
| 2014-03-16 2:54 PM in reply to: #4966109 |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 I must say the nonstop news coverage is rather irritating. There is nothing new but CNN is still interviewing 'experts' and analysts. |
| 2014-03-16 3:06 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 Originally posted by Rogillio Intentionally crashing into the drink doesn't fly (pun intended). The plane flew for several hours after they turned off the tracking devices....and one of them requires someone to pull a circuit breaker. If suicide was the plan, no reason to do these things. There is a satellite device that was pinging the satellite for hours. They could have tried to land in the Himalayans and failed/crashed. I will keep an eye out for them on my EBC trek.... Sure it could if it were part of a test......who knows what information the test was intended to produce. I'm not watching any of the coverage because it's all stupid, and uninformed. It's just speculation like we are doing. Good investigators tell the press NOTHING. |
| 2014-03-16 3:22 PM in reply to: #4966112 |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 I believe the 'good investigators' know what happened....but they just don't know where the plane landed or crashed. Drudge is carrying some pretty incriminating stuff about the pilot....which I think is unfair....but the fact is, the flight crew is suspect. |
| 2014-03-16 3:30 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 Originally posted by Rogillio I believe the 'good investigators' know what happened....but they just don't know where the plane landed or crashed. Drudge is carrying some pretty incriminating stuff about the pilot....which I think is unfair....but the fact is, the flight crew is suspect. I have no idea what anyone knows. |
| 2014-03-16 3:31 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Champion 6993 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by Rogillio Intentionally crashing into the drink doesn't fly (pun intended). The plane flew for several hours after they turned off the tracking devices....and one of them requires someone to pull a circuit breaker. If suicide was the plan, no reason to do these things. There is a satellite device that was pinging the satellite for hours. They could have tried to land in the Himalayans and failed/crashed. I will keep an eye out for them on my EBC trek.... Sure it could if it were part of a test......who knows what information the test was intended to produce. I'm not watching any of the coverage because it's all stupid, and uninformed. It's just speculation like we are doing. Good investigators tell the press NOTHING. Well if you wanted to steal 10 planes in the future you might find out if you got all the transponders and tracking devices on the plane. 1 missing plane is bad. 10 is worse. |
| 2014-03-16 3:54 PM in reply to: #4966130 |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 RE: Missing Malaysian 777 BY: Left Brain on 2014-03-16 3:30 PM I have no idea what anyone knows. ----- Do you know this for sure? A little paradox? I am intrigued that a plane and 239 people can vanish. My guess is the landed in a Muslim country like Indonesia or Pakistan. Pakistan hid Osama for years. |
| 2014-03-16 4:36 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 Originally posted by Rogillio RE: Missing Malaysian 777 BY: Left Brain on 2014-03-16 3:30 PM I have no idea what anyone knows. ----- Do you know this for sure? A little paradox? I am intrigued that a plane and 239 people can vanish. My guess is the landed in a Muslim country like Indonesia or Pakistan. Pakistan hid Osama for years. I don't know what I don't know, no? Edited by Left Brain 2014-03-16 4:37 PM |
| 2014-03-16 4:55 PM in reply to: #4965267 |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 But you know there are things you don't no, yes? |
| 2014-03-16 4:55 PM in reply to: #4965267 |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 But you know there are things you don't no, yes? |
| 2014-03-16 4:57 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 Originally posted by Rogillio But you know there are things you don't no, yes? Well, I know I don't know things I know I don't know. |
| 2014-03-16 5:07 PM in reply to: #4966169 |
Champion 10157 Alabama | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 So it sounds like you know what you know, you know? Ok, the word know looks weird now....like a k - now. Here's a simple razor explanation. Co pilot goes to bathroom, pilot locks him out and flies plane to Indonesia and lands at a Muslim sympathetic country. |
| 2014-03-16 5:46 PM in reply to: Rogillio |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 Originally posted by Rogillio Ok, the word know looks weird now....like a k - now. I no. |
| 2014-03-17 8:40 AM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 6838 Tejas | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 Originally posted by chirunner134 Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by Rogillio Intentionally crashing into the drink doesn't fly (pun intended). The plane flew for several hours after they turned off the tracking devices....and one of them requires someone to pull a circuit breaker. If suicide was the plan, no reason to do these things. There is a satellite device that was pinging the satellite for hours. They could have tried to land in the Himalayans and failed/crashed. I will keep an eye out for them on my EBC trek.... Sure it could if it were part of a test......who knows what information the test was intended to produce. I'm not watching any of the coverage because it's all stupid, and uninformed. It's just speculation like we are doing. Good investigators tell the press NOTHING. Well if you wanted to steal 10 planes in the future you might find out if you got all the transponders and tracking devices on the plane. 1 missing plane is bad. 10 is worse. That's brilliant! I can't think of an easier way to get into the airline business with little or no cash. Just steal the planes! Get your disgruntled pilot buddies in on it and you've met your crew staffing needs. Passengers can be used as baggage handlers and ground crew... Edited by mdg2003 2014-03-17 8:41 AM |
| 2014-03-17 10:47 AM in reply to: mdg2003 |
Pro 5761 Bartlett, TN | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 Dr Rumack: Can you fly this plane and land it? Ted Striker: Surely you can't be serious? Dr Rumack: I am serious, and don't call me Shirley!
C'mon, no AIRPLANE movie references yet???
Have you ever been in a Turkish prison??? |
| 2014-03-17 10:59 AM in reply to: mdg2003 |
| 489 | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 My only contribution to the conspiracy theory is that governments know where it is and what happened to it but for some reason don't want to say. I don't believe they put transponders on $100k cars that can't be deactivated by thiefs but have technology on a plane that can be switched off - why would you even have that switch? |
| 2014-03-17 11:24 AM in reply to: Dan-L |
| Chicago | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 Originally posted by Dan-L My only contribution to the conspiracy theory is that governments know where it is and what happened to it but for some reason don't want to say. I don't believe they put transponders on $100k cars that can't be deactivated by thiefs but have technology on a plane that can be switched off - why would you even have that switch? I believe transponders are turned off while planes are on the ground so they don't clutter up ATC's radars. |
| 2014-03-17 11:48 AM in reply to: jober |
| 489 | Subject: RE: Missing Malaysian 777 Originally posted by jober Originally posted by Dan-L My only contribution to the conspiracy theory is that governments know where it is and what happened to it but for some reason don't want to say. I don't believe they put transponders on $100k cars that can't be deactivated by thiefs but have technology on a plane that can be switched off - why would you even have that switch? I believe transponders are turned off while planes are on the ground so they don't clutter up ATC's radars. Surely it can be remotely reactivated though? If it's that easy it'd be happening all the time surely.. |
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