swbkrun Mentor Group- CLOSED FOR BUSINESS!!! (Page 208)

fattyfatfat - 2010-07-07 6:14 PM

the front page of the site says enter code IMPACT2010 for 25 buck off.  says for first 200 but also says limited space left.  so maybe it'll work.

do it.  is michelle gonna be around that weekend?  maybe i'll come "spectate".

jvanis - 2010-07-07 8:56 AM So I am curious what everyone considers good/fast/slow etc run times.  My observation thus far is everyone seems to think their run is slow.

Outside of a general classification of
Fast: Anyone faster than me
Average: Everything else?

I cannot put my finger on a number persay that I would call fast, but I do fall into the above trap where I say I am not a fast runner.   

fattyfatfat - 2010-07-07 5:14 PM

the front page of the site says enter code IMPACT2010 for 25 buck off.  says for first 200 but also says limited space left.  so maybe it'll work.

do it.  is michelle gonna be around that weekend?  maybe i'll come "spectate".

TrevorC - 2010-07-07 5:52 PM get up here then. Its a great course.
I just bought a new chain. Could be an interesting night.

swbkrun - 2010-07-07 5:21 PM

Careful what you say here... A few post back you said that you are planning on running a sub 7:00 minute mile for your race this weekend.  By saying that, and saying the statement above you are politely hinting that we all suck at running.  It would be a dream for some to run a sub 10:00 minute pace and to them that is fast, and great.  Please don't say stuff like this and make people not want to post there accomplishments.    ITS ALL RELATIVE!

I do wish you the best of luck this weekend however....

dalessit - 2010-07-07 3:44 PM Just got my new shoes in the mail.

My first try at minimalist running shoes.  These things are super light.

BTW that is a painting kids made for us to welcome us back home after LS.



Oh and Kim, the Dr. didn't scold me for wearing 6 month old contacts.. (that are monthly change ones) but he did know they were pretty old.

TrevorC - 2010-07-07 6:52 PM get up here then. Its a great course.
I just bought a new chain. Could be an interesting night.

kt65 - 2010-07-07 5:37 PM

Anyone have a coupon code for Infinit???  I just realized I am on my last few scoops!!! and race is in 10 days, wth was I thinking? 

TYPICAL!!!

kt65 - 2010-07-07 12:48 PM
To chime in on the "fast" discussion, I pretty much try to only concern myself with my own progress.  This year was my first year of being a coached athlete, and I have learned that it is self defeating for me to look at someone else's times, when I can only control my effort and speed by following the plan.  You never know who will show up on race day.

This can work both ways, in that maybe you place really high in your AG but you know you could have gone harder.  Or worse, you gave it 120% and you finished way down the ladder cuz some super fasties (like Julia) showed up.   I just think it's not good mentally to judge myself based on AG ranking. 

That's what works for me.  I do, however, use my competitors as motivation to train harder even when all I want to do is hit the snooze and hide under the covers!  I know that they are out there running in the rain, or heading out for a 4 hour ride in the hot sun, or getting up for Master's swimming at 5:00AM, and I don't want to be left in the dust on race day!!!

ryanp100 - 2010-07-07 10:47 PM I consider myself a pretty good biker and runner (we'll leave swimming aside...), but when I see a runner runner, guys who do a 32 minute 10k, that's super impressive to me. I often tell myself "Self, wouldn't it be cool to be able to run like that..." or when I see a top local Cat 1 or 2 cyclist, I know I can't keep up with them. Heck, doing an OWS with Kyla was awe inspiring. It's definitely all relative. I race to see how I can do against myself... I think that's ultimately all we can do. As Kim points out, you never know who's going to show up at the starting line. But like Kim, I also use my competitors as motivation. My screen saver at my office says "Are you training today? The guy who's going to beat you is..." Sometimes I need that little reminder. However, in the end, I think that the racing is only part of the journey. The dedication and focus, the hours of training, the enjoyment any of us derive from doing something that we couldn't do a week, a month, a year ago... that's a gift to ourselves. Running a sub 10 minute mile, holding 24 mph for a Oly bike leg, swimming 100 yards nonstop, going sub x:xx at whatever distance... these are milestones to be sure, but a goal attained simply means climbing the next rung on the ladder. There is no perfection to be found. So where does that leave us? It means that, come race day, we try to maximize our potential at any given point in our development as athletes. Trevor rocked his HIM and shaved 30+ (!) minutes off his previous effort. That's amazing. I'd dare say he raced to the limit of his abilities. But does he have a 1:50 run split in him someday soon? I'd bet on it. We continually try to expand our potential by evolving our mental and physical abilities, and hope that our execution fulfills it. To me, that's successful racing. And that's why I like this group: we push eachother to evolve. DJ completing her first tri, Mark gearing up to do his first, Dino reading his biofeedback and make the difficult decision that recovery = progress, Tony steadily bringing down his run splits, Suzy working out nutrition, Kim wrangling her swim into submission (you and me both!), John signing up for the Full Meal Deal in Texas next year, Tracy and Trevor signing up for IMC next month, Kyla and Linda getting it done at IMCdA... it's a long list of really bad a$$ accomplishments and evolutions. So, to return to the original question: what's a fast run time? I think it's the one who maximizes their potential at that particular point in time. As Trevor said: we're all the hare to someone, and we're all the turtle to someone else.

ryanp100 - 2010-07-07 10:47 PM I consider myself a pretty good biker and runner (we'll leave swimming aside...), but when I see a runner runner, guys who do a 32 minute 10k, that's super impressive to me. I often tell myself "Self, wouldn't it be cool to be able to run like that..." or when I see a top local Cat 1 or 2 cyclist, I know I can't keep up with them. Heck, doing an OWS with Kyla was awe inspiring. It's definitely all relative. I race to see how I can do against myself... I think that's ultimately all we can do. As Kim points out, you never know who's going to show up at the starting line. But like Kim, I also use my competitors as motivation. My screen saver at my office says "Are you training today? The guy who's going to beat you is..." Sometimes I need that little reminder. However, in the end, I think that the racing is only part of the journey. The dedication and focus, the hours of training, the enjoyment any of us derive from doing something that we couldn't do a week, a month, a year ago... that's a gift to ourselves. Running a sub 10 minute mile, holding 24 mph for a Oly bike leg, swimming 100 yards nonstop, going sub x:xx at whatever distance... these are milestones to be sure, but a goal attained simply means climbing the next rung on the ladder. There is no perfection to be found. So where does that leave us? It means that, come race day, we try to maximize our potential at any given point in our development as athletes. Trevor rocked his HIM and shaved 30+ (!) minutes off his previous effort. That's amazing. I'd dare say he raced to the limit of his abilities. But does he have a 1:50 run split in him someday soon? I'd bet on it. We continually try to expand our potential by evolving our mental and physical abilities, and hope that our execution fulfills it. To me, that's successful racing. And that's why I like this group: we push eachother to evolve. DJ completing her first tri, Mark gearing up to do his first, Dino reading his biofeedback and make the difficult decision that recovery = progress, Tony steadily bringing down his run splits, Suzy working out nutrition, Kim wrangling her swim into submission (you and me both!), John signing up for the Full Meal Deal in Texas next year, Tracy and Trevor signing up for IMC next month, Kyla and Linda getting it done at IMCdA, Ryan ripping up the course in his 1/2 ... it's a long list of really bad a$$ accomplishments and evolutions. So, to return to the original question: what's a fast run time? I think it's the one who maximizes their potential at that particular point in time. As Trevor said: we're all the hare to someone, and we're all the turtle to someone else.

Mett - 2010-07-08 8:16 AM Here is my running comment, I got home from class last night totally exhausted and ate dinner. I felt like I ate too much and was feeling bad for not running or exercising. I thought about skipping it and I just keep seeing this commercial in my head from Kona 07 or 08 (only two I have on video) and it is this guy running in the rain in the dark (whether it is morning or night doesnt matter) and I just feel bad that I am being lazy. So at 9 pm I changed clothes and headed outside. It was still 86 degrees but the sun wasnt beating down on me. I took off at my normal slow slow pace and just ran. Up to this point I have never made it past 1 mile without stopping and having my shin muscles be super sore and wore out. WelL I had a breakthrough and made it 1.76 miles in 23 minutes. I first broke my record with distance and also time, 2 weeks ago in 23 minutes I only made it about 1.23 miles so I am getting better.

Mett - 2010-07-08 8:16 AM Here is my running comment, I got home from class last night totally exhausted and ate dinner. I felt like I ate too much and was feeling bad for not running or exercising. I thought about skipping it and I just keep seeing this commercial in my head from Kona 07 or 08 (only two I have on video) and it is this guy running in the rain in the dark (whether it is morning or night doesnt matter) and I just feel bad that I am being lazy. So at 9 pm I changed clothes and headed outside. It was still 86 degrees but the sun wasnt beating down on me. I took off at my normal slow slow pace and just ran. Up to this point I have never made it past 1 mile without stopping and having my shin muscles be super sore and wore out. WelL I had a breakthrough and made it 1.76 miles in 23 minutes. I first broke my record with distance and also time, 2 weeks ago in 23 minutes I only made it about 1.23 miles so I am getting better.

Mett - 2010-07-08 9:16 AM Here is my running comment, I got home from class last night totally exhausted and ate dinner. I felt like I ate too much and was feeling bad for not running or exercising. I thought about skipping it and I just keep seeing this commercial in my head from Kona 07 or 08 (only two I have on video) and it is this guy running in the rain in the dark (whether it is morning or night doesnt matter) and I just feel bad that I am being lazy. So at 9 pm I changed clothes and headed outside. It was still 86 degrees but the sun wasnt beating down on me. I took off at my normal slow slow pace and just ran. Up to this point I have never made it past 1 mile without stopping and having my shin muscles be super sore and wore out. WelL I had a breakthrough and made it 1.76 miles in 23 minutes. I first broke my record with distance and also time, 2 weeks ago in 23 minutes I only made it about 1.23 miles so I am getting better.

fattyfatfat - 2010-07-08 8:46 AM

awesome!  congrats!!   and mark, way to man up!  ;-)

ashort33 - 2010-07-08 9:47 AM

dude awesome guitar on your sig line!

Mett - 2010-07-08 8:16 AM Here is my running comment, I got home from class last night totally exhausted and ate dinner. I felt like I ate too much and was feeling bad for not running or exercising. I thought about skipping it and I just keep seeing this commercial in my head from Kona 07 or 08 (only two I have on video) and it is this guy running in the rain in the dark (whether it is morning or night doesnt matter) and I just feel bad that I am being lazy. So at 9 pm I changed clothes and headed outside. It was still 86 degrees but the sun wasnt beating down on me. I took off at my normal slow slow pace and just ran. Up to this point I have never made it past 1 mile without stopping and having my shin muscles be super sore and wore out. WelL I had a breakthrough and made it 1.76 miles in 23 minutes. I first broke my record with distance and also time, 2 weeks ago in 23 minutes I only made it about 1.23 miles so I am getting better.