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2009-08-17 9:58 AM
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steven_lohmann - 2009-08-17 9:49 AM
LazyMarathoner - 2009-08-17 10:29 AM Anyone used Tribike Transport in the past, and if so, did you send a gear bag? At first I thought the $40 additional charge was kind of ridiculous, but then I remembered airlines tack on an extra $25 for each additional bag and it started to seem more reasonable. Would love to know if others have sent the bag and if you recommend it. Might be nice to just have everything arrive all at once and not have to carry it.
I did the gear bag in the past and am doing it again this year. I put my pump, helmet, shoes and some other bulky or important stuff that I didn't trust the airlines not to lose in the bag.

I used tribiketransport for CDA in June and ditto on the gear bag...worth every penny.



2009-08-17 1:08 PM
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stainofmind - 2009-08-17 9:23 AM I posted it in the Wisconsin forum, but wanted to put it in this thread too. The Madison Open Water Swim, which uses the same course as IM is this Saturday. Good prep me thinks. Still time to sign up. https://www.clubassistant.com/club/meet_information.cfm?c=1259&s...


I'm in! And then riding the whole course. And then driving 2+ hours home! ACK! 
2009-08-17 1:22 PM
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Whizzzzz - 2009-08-17 1:08 PM

stainofmind - 2009-08-17 9:23 AM I posted it in the Wisconsin forum, but wanted to put it in this thread too. The Madison Open Water Swim, which uses the same course as IM is this Saturday. Good prep me thinks. Still time to sign up. https://www.clubassistant.com/club/meet_information.cfm?c=1259&smid=...


I'm in! And then riding the whole course. And then driving 2+ hours home! ACK! 


That's brave. At least for me, that drive would require a lot of caffeine.
2009-08-17 3:46 PM
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ball6135 - 2009-08-17 8:28 AM ...

BTW... does anybody have any news on the athlete that had some problems in Lake Monona this weekend?  Last I heard, she was on her way to the hospital and they had a pulse and she was breathing!  I hope all is ok for her!!!

This reported in the WI forum -

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=175471&posts=12&start=1

 

2009-08-17 6:20 PM
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If you want some company, and are willing to ride at 16ish mph, let me know. I have the same game plan for saturday, minus the two hour ride home.


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I'm in! And then riding the whole course. And then driving 2+ hours home! ACK! 
2009-08-17 9:29 PM
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Hmmm...sounds like a great idea...gotta get clearance from the boss and Coach MJ and I may be in too..'cept I gotta 3 hour drive home!!


2009-08-18 7:56 AM
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I wish I could go ride the course again.  I did it a few weeks ago, but the 9-10 hour drive makes it a bit too much of a trip to do again. You guys have fun and smile all the way up the hill on Timberlane road!
ah question about that hill.  The rules say no crossing the yellow line.  There is actually no line on that road, so is it ok to sorta traverse back and forth across the road to get up the hill?  I had to do that on my second loop when I went out to ride the course.
Also I have heard that people line that hill to cheer us on, will the crowd get in the way of being able to traverse the hill?
2009-08-18 8:18 AM
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You can't cross the center line regardless if a painted line is actually on the road. There will be official race vehicles trying to get around people. No paper boying up the hills...sorry.

2009-08-18 8:25 AM
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I didn't know that was called paper boying.  Neat.  Ok, I'll be prepared to go straight up then. Thanks.
2009-08-18 8:52 AM
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katherinel - 2009-08-18 7:56 AM I wish I could go ride the course again.  I did it a few weeks ago, but the 9-10 hour drive makes it a bit too much of a trip to do again. You guys have fun and smile all the way up the hill on Timberlane road!
ah question about that hill.  The rules say no crossing the yellow line.  There is actually no line on that road, so is it ok to sorta traverse back and forth across the road to get up the hill?  I had to do that on my second loop when I went out to ride the course.
Also I have heard that people line that hill to cheer us on, will the crowd get in the way of being able to traverse the hill?

They'll be close, but are respectful.  You should be fine.  It is a thrill, though, with all that excitement and energy around you!

2009-08-18 9:41 AM
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Last year I had to stay on the left and weave both laps, due to slower traffic on the right, and other riders slowing down on the left to be close to family/friends and they don't hear you when you ask/warn to pass! Still enjoyed it though!


2009-08-18 10:46 AM
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katherinel - 2009-08-18 8:25 AM I didn't know that was called paper boying.  Neat.  Ok, I'll be prepared to go straight up then. Thanks.

Do you know what your rear gear / cassette is?  If you're having trouble climbing without "paperboying", you might want to consider going with a bigger rear cassette than you currently have, so that you have an easier climbing gear.

FWIW, I have a 53/39 front ( pretty standard ) and will most likely be racing on 12-27 cassette (a 12-25 at a minimum), and I like to think that I'm kinda strong on the bike. 

There's no glory in blowing your legs up climbing with too big a gear.

2009-08-18 10:53 AM
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I'm running a 50/34 and 12-25 ------- As Dumpster said, they don't give you points for riding tougher gears. I'll be hitting the monona terrace around 5:50 so I don't suck :-) not super fast either.

I'm able to keep watts below 280 with this set up. The solution is get lighter (hard to do at this stage of the game) or get more gears.

2009-08-18 11:01 AM
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I have a 53/39 on the front and am actually running an 11/28 on the back. Laughing 

I got the biggest non mountain bike cassette I could find.

 

2009-08-18 11:49 AM
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I put a 12-27 on for HHH and then road the Moo course with it and never went back. I just bought the same cassette for my race wheels. I figure why burn up your legs if you don't have to? I'm liking the sound of the 11-28!
2009-08-18 12:33 PM
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I'm a spinner... can't remember ever standing other than during training rides where it calls for it!?... I like higher a cadence. 

Last year for silverman, I went with a compact up front and an 11-25 in the back and never looked back (great setup if anyone is thinking of doing Silverman by the way!).  Rode IMoo a few weeks ago, and spun right up every hill... lap 1... with a smile... lap 2... not so much!

I'm not a fast rider either so spinning out with a cadence of 95 would put me up over 30 mph with this set up... gonna have to say that is unlikely for me... at that speed, I will coast!  Laughing

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2009-08-18 12:52 PM
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Ok, First off I know absolutely nothing about gear sizes and how they work...I just pedal. I'm appropriately ashamed of my ignorance, but eager to learn.  I went and got my bike and counted.  Here's what I got.  front 39/53 back 12/25.  I am sufficiently worried about this particular hill (and well hey a couple of the others were hard work too) to spend some money.  Tell me what to do.  Would getting a slightly bigger number in the back make any difference? 
I used to be better than average on hills until I got a new tri bike.  On my old road bike I used to pass people on up-hills, now I pass them on my tri bike on downhills. 
Please advise!
Other factors to consider, I have an opportunity to get some used Zipps (404's) from a friend who has retired from triathlon.  I think I'd need to buy some new gears anyway if I do.  Currently I have Mavic Ksyrium wheels.
Lastly, I apologise if this post would be better on the gear thread, but it seemed to fit in with where this conversation is going, and my concerns that make me consider these changes are Wisconsin inspired.
2009-08-18 1:23 PM
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If you are worried about the hills it is real simple.  Do what others have said and go to a 12-27.  Bring your rear wheel into the bike shop and they can switch it over in about 3 minutes.  Probably cost you around $80 for the new cassette.  Good luck.

2009-08-18 1:34 PM
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12-27 is nice on this course. If you can wrench yourself, or have a set of training wheels, run something else (like 12-25 or even 12-23) on them while training and the 12-27 on race day is gonna feel silly easy.... theoretically.
2009-08-18 1:51 PM
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Katherine - One more vote for the 12-27!  You will absolutely love it.  Those two extra teeth make a world of difference.  I used the 12-27 last year and I ride on hills all the time.  I try not to use the 27 when training, but on some hills around here (acadamy, the wall, etc.) its needed. 

FWIW, last year I pretty much spun up most of the hills in the 25 on the first loop, but on the second, I was on the 27 and still clicking to see if a 29 would magically appear back there.
2009-08-18 2:32 PM
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I would go with the 12-27 as well vs. the 12-25!   Easy to switch out and you will be happy that 27 is back there on the later hills!   (I personally have no ego issues when pushing those gears up the hills!!!!)

Reasonably inexpensive and it will help!    Getting a bit into the details, but there will be an 8% reduction in cycle time (cadence) and each revolution will be about 10" less distance in forward travel.  That is all reduced intensity/effort. 

So I would say it is significant enough to make the change.

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Birkierunner - 2009-08-17 9:58 AM

steven_lohmann - 2009-08-17 9:49 AM
LazyMarathoner - 2009-08-17 10:29 AM Anyone used Tribike Transport in the past, and if so, did you send a gear bag? At first I thought the $40 additional charge was kind of ridiculous, but then I remembered airlines tack on an extra $25 for each additional bag and it started to seem more reasonable. Would love to know if others have sent the bag and if you recommend it. Might be nice to just have everything arrive all at once and not have to carry it.
I did the gear bag in the past and am doing it again this year. I put my pump, helmet, shoes and some other bulky or important stuff that I didn't trust the airlines not to lose in the bag.

I used tribiketransport for CDA in June and ditto on the gear bag...worth every penny.

Birkie - heard you used 808s recently and was thrown around some with the cross winds - you still thinking using those for Moo, or switching out to something else or at least a 404 in the front?

2009-08-18 6:55 PM
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Thanks everyone, now I have to go home and count my teeth and find out what I am riding on.

 

Does anyone have any info on additional tickets for the pasta dinner on Friday and the brunch on Monday?  I might be bringing another person who I don't have a ticket for and would really like to make sure that isn't going to be a problem.

2009-08-18 7:33 PM
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well I know this girl who used an 11-23 last year..... what a dumb azz

She did fine though, but she has a 12-27 this time

2009-08-18 8:25 PM
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Things to do tomorrow
1. physio
2 Buy new cassette with more teeth cause more teeth is better.
3 train
Thanks everybody for the information and advice.  You guys are smart!
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