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 2009-08-13 12:42 PM in reply to: #2346608 |
Elite  4108   Calgary,AB,Canada |  Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!!Plainsman AU - 2009-08-13 11:33 AM Spand X is in the house with a little pick me up video. Performance its the name of the game!! LOL that was good.How to ride thru the pain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn29DvMITu4 And since we haven't seen any good pictures of you Barry, I think he kind of looks like you in your avatar. Edited by TrevorC 2009-08-13 12:54 PM |
| 2009-08-13 1:05 PM in reply to: #2346329 |
Elite 4108 Calgary,AB,Canada | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! ashort33 - 2009-08-13 10:02 AM soccermom15 - 2009-08-13 10:32 AM Hey Janet.....I always forget to tell you that my sister live in St. Louis. She lived on Arthur Ave....South city area??? We had some custard at Ted Drews!! Awesome stuff.Hey all - another busy week at work for me (auditors are here this week - always fun!). I'm looking forward to next week since I'll be on vacation! Yeah! Not going anywhere but won't have to be at work either Speaking of my tri on Sunday (it's a spring - 300yd/18mi/5k) - I could use some good vibes from you guys! I know I'll finish, but the bike has me a little worried. It's a pretty hilly course and even though I've been training on hills as much as possible, it's still the one thing that I'm not real confident with. So any good thoughts would be appreciated! Reuben - congrats on finishing your first tri! And good luck if you decide to do another this weekend. Here's a picture of me finishing my first tri back in May. |
| 2009-08-13 1:07 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
| Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! Back after a short little time out (ha, can anyone tell I've spent a lot of time with the kids lately). Have had lots of fun, but honesty I really missed the training. I'm looking at it like a little body healing and getting the hunger back. Have missed a lot here on the mg, can't keep up with you guys. Saw the pic site...very cool and some awesome pictures! A few quick bits...... Janet - good luck this weekend! Reuben - congrats triathlete! Roni - I had a similar race....one that didn't really fit in my training plan, but that I could measure myself against last year. I went a little easy that week, and then right after the race hit it hard again. I think the mental is a huge piece of it, and doing well was a good thing for me. I agree with what everyone else has said - get the miles in after you rock the race. Sorry I missed all the other stuff. Have to tell you, I thought about you guys one night when we were sitting there eating peanut butter stuffed preztels and drinking beer. I don't even like beer (wine and sweet drinks) but boy it was good : ) |
| 2009-08-13 1:19 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
Master 2005 Silverton, Oregon | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! Thanks for the responses! Running after is a great idea, but... there's BBQ and beer after the race so I don't think it's going to happen. Of course, if I was fast enough I could be done with the race and the extra miles before the BBQ starts.  Usually it has already started before I finish though. So, I'm thinking either tomorrow or Monday... Love the video... too funny  |
| 2009-08-13 1:31 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
Regular 310 Seymour, IN | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! That video is great. Reminds me of Adam Sandberg's stuff. This has nothing to do with tri, but one of my favorites..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKSIaeQHV94 Janet, the Columbus tri was a blast. I'll be doing another. The one my wife and I were considering has sold out so I guess we're off this weekend. My knee is a little sore and stiff. Getting better - I'm having a hard time being lazy this week while I give it some time. Linda, good for you spending time with the kids. My kids started back to school today.  My 4 year old goes back on Monday. Then my schedule gets AWESOME again. I'll have all the time in world for whatever!BTW, that link is actually to a fake one...the audio is right, but the two dudes aren't the right guys. It's very accurate though. Edited by BigReub 2009-08-13 1:36 PM |
| 2009-08-13 1:36 PM in reply to: #2346705 |
Champion 6973    marietta | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! Hey Roni: I’m going to go against the better knowledge of this group on this one… There are more things to consider than just this 10 miler. Based on what I’m reading in your logs about your legs being sore every day this week which forced an unplanned rest day, your scheduled training through the 20th and this race you want to do (very cool that you’ve done it each year btw) I’d say get a 7 mile run in tomorrow instead of 4 and keep that 3.5 hour ride or even knock that down a little. Keep Saturday as a scheduled off day. Your run mileage for this week will still be right at what you are averaging this month. Considering your schedule, this soreness and that you want to kick a$$ Sunday, I think this puts you in the best position to do so and keep as close to your scheduled weekly mileage in all three aspects as you work toward you’re A race. Drink all the beer you can, pound some BBQ and get back at it Monday. |
| 2009-08-13 1:53 PM in reply to: #2346739 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! fattyfatfat - 2009-08-13 1:36 PM Hey Roni: I’m going to go against the better knowledge of this group on this one… There are more things to consider than just this 10 miler. Based on what I’m reading in your logs about your legs being sore every day this week which forced an unplanned rest day, your scheduled training through the 20th and this race you want to do (very cool that you’ve done it each year btw) I’d say get a 7 mile run in tomorrow instead of 4 and keep that 3.5 hour ride or even knock that down a little. Keep Saturday as a scheduled off day. Your run mileage for this week will still be right at what you are averaging this month. Considering your schedule, this soreness and that you want to kick a$$ Sunday, I think this puts you in the best position to do so and keep as close to your scheduled weekly mileage in all three aspects as you work toward you’re A race. Drink all the beer you can, pound some BBQ and get back at it Monday. Roni John forced me to look at your logs......and I agree with him. If it were me and I had a sore quad, was using the roller/stick and taking days off, I wouldn't run between now and the race. I wouldn't bike either. You have the fitness. What you don't have is time to take off after the race with your crazy build up.....you probably want to punch me and maybe John, but as someone who pushed last year and regrets it to this day, I would BACK OFF !!! (she said lovingly!) Suzy |
| 2009-08-13 1:55 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! imho... making up missed miles post race may not be the best idea. unless you can really control your body physically and mentally at the same time during a race, then race day is race day. Its never a training day. Especially a sprint race where if you cut your run effort by X% you are probably still moving faster than your long slow run pace. Simply stated, planned distance - race distance = post race distance doesn't work. |
| 2009-08-13 2:00 PM in reply to: #2346793 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! fattyfatfat - 2009-08-13 1:55 PM imho... making up missed miles post race may not be the best idea. unless you can really control your body physically and mentally at the same time during a race, then race day is race day. Its never a training day. Especially a sprint race where if you cut your run effort by X% you are probably still moving faster than your long slow run pace. Simply stated, planned distance - race distance = post race distance doesn't work. Now, I am not talking about Roni, but I disagree. Tony is working with Lowell and he used to be my guy too. I often did a race and added running miles at the end to get to a total distance needed. It is much easier when you are running a stand alone running race. Warm-up 2-3, do the 10K (or whatever) and then do the remaining mileage. In theory, we all should be doing a cool-down anyway. This is a great way to get your Tempo effort done fully supported too. It is never easy to keep going, but it is effective in my humble opinion.  |
| 2009-08-13 2:08 PM in reply to: #2346806 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! SSMinnow - 2009-08-13 2:00 PM fattyfatfat - 2009-08-13 1:55 PM imho... making up missed miles post race may not be the best idea. unless you can really control your body physically and mentally at the same time during a race, then race day is race day. Its never a training day. Especially a sprint race where if you cut your run effort by X% you are probably still moving faster than your long slow run pace. Simply stated, planned distance - race distance = post race distance doesn't work. Now, I am not talking about Roni, but I disagree. Tony is working with Lowell and he used to be my guy too. I often did a race and added running miles at the end to get to a total distance needed. It is much easier when you are running a stand alone running race. Warm-up 2-3, do the 10K (or whatever) and then do the remaining mileage. In theory, we all should be doing a cool-down anyway. This is a great way to get your Tempo effort done fully supported too. It is never easy to keep going, but it is effective in my humble opinion. I was talking about her but without trying to call anyone out. :-) Adding a 7 miler on top of the race??? I have no issue with a few (2-3 for a cool down) but its not as simple as 10 - 3.1 = 6.9. And what you are describing is after a run. Is there a difference after a triathlon? Agree w/ you 100% on the cool down. |
| 2009-08-13 2:25 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
Elite 4108 Calgary,AB,Canada | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! I smell a pillow fight coming on between you two!!! My $0.02...Race day is race day. I go as hard as I feel I can go. Its a race. for what its worth...It $0.02 Canadian. |
| 2009-08-13 2:47 PM in reply to: #2346876 |
Champion 5522 Frisco, TX | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! TrevorC - 2009-08-13 2:25 PM I smell a pillow fight coming on between you two!!! My $0.02...Race day is race day. I go as hard as I feel I can go. Its a race. for what its worth...It $0.02 Canadian. Sounds to me like they are in violent agreement with each other... |
| 2009-08-13 2:48 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
Master 2005 Silverton, Oregon | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! Great discussion, thanks! Good timing too, because I was just pondering whether or not to do the 3:30 bike this afternoon. My quad is still somewhat sore... not bad and it didn't bother me on my run this morning, but I definitely don't want to cause it to get worse again. And, Suzy, I think your right about backing off. I'm sure it was stubbornly pushing through the run on Sunday when I was already sore from Saturday's trail run that caused my quad to get as bad as it did... ok, so sometimes it takes me awhile to learn the lesson  . I'm pretty good at listening to my body, but sometimes it is hard to decide if it is just normal training fatigue that I need to just get through or an overworked body that needs to rest... there's also some fear that I won't be ready come race day if I miss some key workouts. Of course, if I end up injured I'll be even less prepared come race day. No, I don't want to punch you (Suzy) or John, but thank you for the laugh and thanks to both of you for the advice. I think I'll do a compromise between the two and do a shorter bike (if it doesn't bother my quad) and a shorter run tomorrow, taking Saturday off. Then I should be ready to get back at it next week. You know I'll be thinking of you all when I'm out there Sunday!P.S. "John forced me to look at your logs" LOL Is it really that bad Suzy? |
| 2009-08-13 3:09 PM in reply to: #2346939 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! P.S. "John forced me to look at your logs" LOL Is it really that bad Suzy? KIM... LINDAAAAA WHERE ARE YOUUUU???? EVERYONE ARE PICKING ON ME!!!! DO I TALK FUNNY????? wait just a second Roni.. "compromise". bs. thats exactly what i said to do. geeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 2009-08-13 3:10 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
Master 2436 Apex, north carolina | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! This is a very inspiring read about a heart transplant IM going to Kona. They also discuss the heart transplant athlete who raced at IM Canada with Steve last year. Make sure to look at the jersey they guy is wearing!!! http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/13/heart.transplants.ironman/index.html?eref=igoogle_cnn |
| 2009-08-13 3:17 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
Expert 1010 Greer, SC | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! Well, here goes nothing. 12 mile run is about to begin.................ugh. I'll fill you in with the details when I return tomorrow. Good night everyone! |
| 2009-08-13 3:29 PM in reply to: #2347025 |
Champion 5522 Frisco, TX | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! Jeepguy2358 - 2009-08-13 3:17 PM Well, here goes nothing. 12 mile run is about to begin.................ugh. I'll fill you in with the details when I return tomorrow. Good night everyone! You pwn that run! |
| 2009-08-13 3:34 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
Expert 1007 Missouri | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! Hey everyone, thanks for the encouragement for this weekend's race - I knew I could count on you guys  . I'm sure I'll do fine - just a little pre-race jitters. I went through the same thing about my race back in May and it turned out OK. And that time I was on an old mountain bike! Now that I have a road bike where the gears actually work correctly, I should be fine. Just anxious I guess. But also excited! |
| 2009-08-13 3:37 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
| Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! Ok, not to get in the middle here....but pillow fights can be fun I use the online coaching support (which I have found to be very helpful). Having missed 5 days of training in the last week I asked them about making up some workouts or picking up where my schedule puts me now. |
| 2009-08-13 4:01 PM in reply to: #2346576 |
Expert 1797 CHARLOTTESVILLE, Virginia | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! gadgetlaw - 2009-08-13 12:25 PM I have been feeling better than I did the night I went to the hospital, but not great. For those of you who said you had gall stones before, did the pain last a long time? The doctor said that the stones are not blocking anything and the gall bladder is not infected or inflamed, so they do not want to take it out. But it has been a week and I still hurt. Now, it is not curl-up-in-the-fetal-position pain like it was, but I still feel it! It feels almost like a really bad side stitch, that also goes around to my back. It hurts some to touch it and it hurts sometimes to take a deep breath. Needless to say, I have tried working out, but it doesn't work so much when I am in pain and can't breath!! It is getting really frustrating! But, on the happy side, vacation is in 3 1/2 weeks!!! Karen Nope - mine was curl-up-in-the-fetal-position pain then poof gone. I even had Tony turn around from the hospital w/ the first attack. I only lived in fear of another if I ate the wrong food. Since I'd had 2 attacks, my doc said - young healthy person and young healthy gallbladder (w/ stones) equals the best time to take it out. It was outpatient surgery. In at 8am, three small cuts, one suction hose and leaving for home at noon. I even have a picture. LOL You may want to follow up w/ your doc and let him know it's still bothering you. |
| 2009-08-13 4:19 PM in reply to: #2347011 |
Elite 4108 Calgary,AB,Canada | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! tahrens - 2009-08-13 2:10 PM This is a very inspiring read about a heart transplant IM going to Kona. They also discuss the heart transplant athlete who raced at IM Canada with Steve last year. Make sure to look at the jersey they guy is wearing!!! http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/13/heart.transplants.ironman/index.html?eref=igoogle_cnn Great story Tracy.... Amazing what some people can do. I love stories like that. |
| 2009-08-13 4:51 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! WOW, have a two hour meeting and you miss a pillow fight! Damn. I would run the additional distance if I were doing a Sprint. If I were doing an Oly or greater, nope. While not exactly what I was recommending, the fact that you are backing off some Roni is great. Very smart girl. I love looking at the logs of all of us athletes.....just hate when someone beats me to the punch with the idea (JOHN!). later gators, I am off to swim class in 25mph winds....I am not at all happy about it either. Bleh. |
| 2009-08-13 5:53 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
Expert 1010 Greer, SC | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! Unfortunately I'm back a little too soon. Today was the first day this year I have felt the effects of the humidity. It was only 91 degrees, but the humidity was in the high 80's. I went through two 8 oz bottles of GE and 2 8 oz bottles of water on my FuelBelt and I just hit 8.5 miles. During my last 11 mile run I had just finished my fourth bottle. I was even beginning to cramp a little in my left foot and my left quad. So, I shut it down and walked home. My shirt was completely soaked - I literally rung it out. I'm really disappointed, but feel I did the right thing to do with my race on Sun and my big race in six weeks. Besides, my plan called for a 90 min. run. I ran for 85. So I guess it's not too bad. |
| 2009-08-13 6:08 PM in reply to: #2347009 |
Elite 3072 san francisco | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! fattyfatfat - 2009-08-13 1:09 PM P.S. "John forced me to look at your logs" LOL Is it really that bad Suzy? KIM... LINDAAAAA WHERE ARE YOUUUU???? EVERYONE ARE PICKING ON ME!!!! DO I TALK FUNNY????? wait just a second Roni.. "compromise". bs. thats exactly what i said to do. geeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzz Wow, I have missed so much over the past few days...I cannot keep up with you guys! John, peeps are not picking on you! It is kind of like little brother love Trevor, you had a post awhile back that made me LOL...something about beer and drool...hmm...will you carry me? very funny. Roni-- sounds like you made a good decision. Your workouts have been great this whole summer and your body is telling you something. Good to listen to aches/soreness and pains. I am finally done with all of the family stuff...funerals, weddings, more funerals  Some of you guys know that I have had some losses in my family this summer. It has been a lot to deal with and it all kind of caught up with me this week. So rather than freak out about not running enough...I just took a few days off. And it felt good to rest. And spend time with family. I feel ready to get back at it and start the marathon plan. Big news, I am going to be a "coached" athlete for the first time ever and am excited about this. I'm kind of tired of trying to figure everything out by myself and don't want to get injured at my "older" age. Will let you know how it goes as it goes! Good luck on your race, Janet! |
| 2009-08-13 6:23 PM in reply to: #2347352 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! KEEP ASKING QUESTIONS!!! Jeepguy2358 - 2009-08-13 5:53 PM Unfortunately I'm back a little too soon. Today was the first day this year I have felt the effects of the humidity. It was only 91 degrees, but the humidity was in the high 80's. I went through two 8 oz bottles of GE and 2 8 oz bottles of water on my FuelBelt and I just hit 8.5 miles. During my last 11 mile run I had just finished my fourth bottle. I was even beginning to cramp a little in my left foot and my left quad. So, I shut it down and walked home. My shirt was completely soaked - I literally rung it out. I'm really disappointed, but feel I did the right thing to do with my race on Sun and my big race in six weeks. Besides, my plan called for a 90 min. run. I ran for 85. So I guess it's not too bad. That's a hellavu run. 91/high 80's is crazy. You might not have made it as far as you wanted to in the planned time, btw forget that 5 minutes, but considering the elements, you have no reason whatsoever to hang your head. And really we're talking big picture here... 2.5 miles, don't sweat it. Awesome job out there man. You read my inspire...I was walking after 20 minutes today. Sucks! No I'm not on my feet all day. Please think of me stuck in an office during those late fall SC days. btw, If this happens will you trade a bunch of cold beer for a bed after the race? |
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