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Boy can I quadruple post when I want to. D'oh!



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Question: Has anyone noticed a differnece in their race performance when they warmup as compared to races where they didn't?



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My back is hurting from yoga of all things. I have a wicked sore spot on my left shoulderblade area. Taking it easy and adjusting the workout schedule to work around it and hope it is gone by Saturday's race.



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SSMinnow - 2010-07-28 7:12 AM Happy Wednesday people......time to check your calendars and see if you're racing this weekend.  If you are, lay down the details!  I know of at least two dudes toeing the line....

For those of us on the sidelines, is there one goal you still want to accomplish this season?  what is it? and how're you going to nail it?


I am racing in the Washington, NC Olympic triathlon. Hoping it will be cool. This is only my second olympic race. Last one was a nightmare (Worst race of my life). This one is flat. Packet pickup is tomorrow. The first waves start at 7AM.

Doug

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SSMinnow - 2010-07-28 6:12 AM Happy Wednesday people......time to check your calendars and see if you're racing this weekend.  If you are, lay down the details!  I know of at least two dudes toeing the line....

For those of us on the sidelines, is there one goal you still want to accomplish this season?  what is it? and how're you going to nail it?


I am racing on Sunday.  This is my 3rd Oly for the year and my "A" race.  This race is on a tough course (lots of hills) so I am not looking for a PR in any way, but is usually very well run and very small (only 90 total racers in the Oly last year) so I would love to finish well in my AG.  Sorry I have been quiet this week, in my usual funk during Taper week. 

More importantly and the reason this is my "A" race is because I am racing in honor of a buddy and neighbor that passed away from ALS in March of this year after a 21 year battle ... at the request of his family.  It was a hell of a fight!

http://www.jsonline.com/news/obituaries/87541862.html

Many members the family (mom, dad, wife, kids, etc.) will be at the race and I am staying at his sister-in-laws house (also a close friend) for the weekend, so I am sure the "Blazeman roll" at the finish will be very emotional for all involved.  I know Jeff will with me on the course and this race is all about his fight.

Good luck to all the racers and big trainers this weekend!  Stay Safe!

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Here is a question: I am really struggling with getting the running and swimming in. I love the cycling and it is what my buddy is in to so I typically ride w/ him when he asks. Anyone have any tips on how to overcome favoring one sport? I was on a schedule but life shot it out hte window, I am trying to stick w/ it but for some reason it is really hard right now as all I want to do is ride the bike. I love swimming and I am excited I was able to renew my pool membership (17.67 a month!) at the rec center. Running I hate because it hurts and I suck  at it, but I know if I could do it every morning or what not I would get better.


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SSMinnow - 2010-07-28 6:12 AM Happy Wednesday people......time to check your calendars and see if you're racing this weekend.  If you are, lay down the details!  I know of at least two dudes toeing the line....

For those of us on the sidelines, is there one goal you still want to accomplish this season?  what is it? and how're you going to nail it?


Woo Hoo - I'm not racing this weekend but I finally have time to respond to part B. 

One goal left this season?  Yes - I still want a sub 6 hr. HIM.  So 8 weeks from this past Monday I am on a misson.  I told my coach to bring it on!  Sept. 18 - I am going to be a lean, mean, fast triathlon machine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  No whining about swim workouts, no skimping on the bike miles and stop lollygagging on the Z1/2 runs.

I don't always train w/ technology just seems like a hassle sometimes.  But I discovered recently that my Z1/2 RPE is not the same as my Z1/2 HR.  So I need to pick up the pace there a bit.  I guess that is what happens when you get a little faster and fitter.  Darn - I liked poking along!  Tongue out  (<---  Lance would be so proud LOL! )
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SSMinnow - 2010-07-28 6:12 AM Happy Wednesday people......time to check your calendars and see if you're racing this weekend.  If you are, lay down the details!  I know of at least two dudes toeing the line....

For those of us on the sidelines, is there one goal you still want to accomplish this season?  what is it? and how're you going to nail it?


I am racing on Sunday.  This is my 3rd Oly for the year and my "A" race.  This race is on a tough course (lots of hills) so I am not looking for a PR in any way, but is usually very well run and very small (only 90 total racers in the Oly last year) so I would love to finish well in my AG.  Sorry I have been quiet this week, in my usual funk during Taper week. 

More importantly and the reason this is my "A" race is because I am racing in honor of a buddy and neighbor that passed away from ALS in March of this year after a 21 year battle ... at the request of his family.  It was a hell of a fight!

http://www.jsonline.com/news/obituaries/87541862.html

Many members the family (mom, dad, wife, kids, etc.) will be at the race and I am staying at his sister-in-laws house (also a close friend) for the weekend, so I am sure the "Blazeman roll" at the finish will be very emotional for all involved.  I know Jeff will with me on the course and this race is all about his fight.

Good luck to all the racers and big trainers this weekend!  Stay Safe!



Thanks for sharing that. Whew. It seems he was a heck of a man. I will be thinking of him and his family during my race this weekend as well. For some reason my monitor is blurry now.
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SSMinnow - 2010-07-28 7:12 AM Happy Wednesday people......time to check your calendars and see if you're racing this weekend.  If you are, lay down the details!  I know of at least two dudes toeing the line....

For those of us on the sidelines, is there one goal you still want to accomplish this season?  what is it? and how're you going to nail it?


I am racing in the Washington, NC Olympic triathlon. Hoping it will be cool. This is only my second olympic race. Last one was a nightmare (Worst race of my life). This one is flat. Packet pickup is tomorrow. The first waves start at 7AM.

Doug


Good luck Doug - kick a$s, stay cool and have fun!
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Mett - 2010-07-28 7:57 AM Here is a question: I am really struggling with getting the running and swimming in. I love the cycling and it is what my buddy is in to so I typically ride w/ him when he asks. Anyone have any tips on how to overcome favoring one sport? I was on a schedule but life shot it out hte window, I am trying to stick w/ it but for some reason it is really hard right now as all I want to do is ride the bike. I love swimming and I am excited I was able to renew my pool membership (17.67 a month!) at the rec center. Running I hate because it hurts and I suck  at it, but I know if I could do it every morning or what not I would get better.


When someone gives you the magic advice for that problem - please pass it along.  I may be able to drag myself to the pool more often!  I think we all favor one of the sports or two in triathlon and struggle w/ the other.  Even the pros! 

That's where your mental training comes into play.  It is mind over matter - when you fight through a tough workout or improve one of your weak spots, you will gain more confidence to overcome problems in the race.

Maybe for the running try a lot of variety in workouts, routes and put on some favorite tunes!
2010-07-28 8:20 AM
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ok so I am not the only one that struggles with that one lol I am working on getting to bed early so I can try and incorporate a run in the morning. I love running at the park so I am going to try and do that more.

On a side note: my wife has an interview for a work at home job (a legit one) and I really hope it works out. So everyone pray, cheer or do whatever you do to throw some mojo our way. The extra money would be INCREDIBLE!


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No races for me.  In fact I don't have any races left between now and Augusta.  Weird feeling.  Goal for the season,  I want to finish Augusta with a strong run, having nailed the nutrition and super confident to start my Canada training.  Even though my last HIM was not so good it taught me what I do bad and how to improve on it.  Therefore strength, running base and nutrition management it is. BRING IT ON!!!!!!

As far as training the weak spot I am right there with you.  For example, I 've bailed on a 4 mile run I was suppose to do Tuesday morning for 2 mornings in a row now.  I've told myself I must go do it at lunch.  The funny thing is  I feel so much better when I complete a training run, but getting my butt out the door is the hardest thing for me.


Good luck Dave and Doug and all the other racers that haven't chimed in yet. 
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Mett - 2010-07-28 8:20 AM ok so I am not the only one that struggles with that one lol I am working on getting to bed early so I can try and incorporate a run in the morning. I love running at the park so I am going to try and do that more.

On a side note: my wife has an interview for a work at home job (a legit one) and I really hope it works out. So everyone pray, cheer or do whatever you do to throw some mojo our way. The extra money would be INCREDIBLE!


When I first started triathlon, I considered myself a runner.  I liked it the most and I was the best at it....my coach is the one who changed my thinking....he basically told me I could be "just a runner" or I could get over myself and lack of speed in the other sports and work them to death....that's what I've done.  Early on in the process it bothered me to be slowing down while running to work on S/B, but over the course of the year, the transformation occured.  Now I consider myself a triathlete who runs.....it's really mindset.  Who wants to be called "just a runner"????
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I am not racing this weekend But GOOD LUCK to those that are!

My goal for the season (It has been since January 1st) to finish Augusta with a smile on my face. This past weekend I had the opportunity to visit with a friend who is also a nutritionist and a Triathlon Coach. I am thinking about hiring her to guide me for my remaining time and then afterwords for nutrition/run help. She is super fabulous and provided me a ton of tips this weekend and a sample training plan for me to follow for the week. My body is definitely in shock but I think it is going to pay off big time.

I struggle hardcore with the run. It is my serious weak spot. I started off as a runner 3.5 years ago and ventured into tris last January. I can say by far that I feel most comfortable as a "triathlete" than as a "runner". While I probably have the most experience in runner it is definitely the sport which I am lacking. Especially when you compare me to my age group. Typically I am middle of the pack for swim and bike (occasionally higher than middle on those two) but in the way back for the run. It is definitely focusing my training a bit while still giving time to the other two sports. After Augusta, my goal is to focus on weight loss and building my run base. I would like to hit a sub 30 min 5k and a sub 2:30 half marathon in the near future. (Current PRs 5k- 32:44, Half Marathon- 3:39:17)
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Thats a good point, I would certainly feel more accomplished to do a full IM. I still want to do it in the next year or two.

I am pretty excited to ride tonight, it is the first time I am doing real steep/big long hills to work on building the strength in my legs. I can do alright on solid ground but the lactic acid onset is pretty quick. I know that running will also help build strength and endurance as well. Tonight is a 50 miler so I shall run tomorrow.

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Mett - 2010-07-28 8:57 AM Here is a question: I am really struggling with getting the running and swimming in. I love the cycling and it is what my buddy is in to so I typically ride w/ him when he asks. Anyone have any tips on how to overcome favoring one sport? I was on a schedule but life shot it out hte window, I am trying to stick w/ it but for some reason it is really hard right now as all I want to do is ride the bike. I love swimming and I am excited I was able to renew my pool membership (17.67 a month!) at the rec center. Running I hate because it hurts and I suck  at it, but I know if I could do it every morning or what not I would get better.


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Mett - 2010-07-28 8:57 AM Here is a question: I am really struggling with getting the running and swimming in. I love the cycling and it is what my buddy is in to so I typically ride w/ him when he asks. Anyone have any tips on how to overcome favoring one sport? I was on a schedule but life shot it out hte window, I am trying to stick w/ it but for some reason it is really hard right now as all I want to do is ride the bike. I love swimming and I am excited I was able to renew my pool membership (17.67 a month!) at the rec center. Running I hate because it hurts and I suck  at it, but I know if I could do it every morning or what not I would get better.


I agree with what the others have said.  I will also say that I have learned to set myself up for success.  I am pretty bad at getting up early in the morning, particularly for running.  I can do it OK a few times a week for swimming but not routinely.  Knowing that, I try and limit the number of workouts I plan to do in the morning.  There is nothing worse than saying you are going to get up in the morning for a work out and then bailing on it when the alarm goes off...very de-motivating for me.  Because of this, it means that sometimes when I can't fit my workouts in at  lunch or in the evening, I am on the treadmill in the basement at night after the kids go to bed.  A little strange sometimes to be on the treadmill at 9:30 pm but that is what works for me.

Two other thoughts for you - you have a biking partner, find a running partner or group.  Maybe there is one at the rec center where your pool is.  It is always easier to get up for the workouts when you committ to meeting someone.  Also, if biking is what you like to do, make that your morning workout - you might be more motivated to get up early.  You will make gains in your cycling from the 15-20 mile rides too, you don't have to go long all the time.

 



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SSMinnow - 2010-07-28 7:12 AM Happy Wednesday people......time to check your calendars and see if you're racing this weekend.  If you are, lay down the details!  I know of at least two dudes toeing the line....

For those of us on the sidelines, is there one goal you still want to accomplish this season?  what is it? and how're you going to nail it?


I don't know what happend above...apparently the computer doesn't like me this morning.

I am racing this weekend.  The Cayuga Lake Oly.  This will be my first repeat race so I am looking forward to seeing how I compare to last year.  Goals - 1:45/100 (1:53 last year) on the swim, 19 mph (18.5 last year) or better on the bike, and sub 8 min (8:15 last year) on the run.  If that all comes together, I should be around 2:40 for total time (2:45 last year).

Last year it poured the whole time during this race.  That made for squishy and sloppy run since it is on a trail so I expect that my run should be better than last year.  The bike has a 1+ mile 7% grade climb right out of transition (and another slightly shorter 7% climb near the turn around)and since hills are not my friend this year, this is probably the high risk part of my plan.  Swim last year was very choppy due to storms so I think my goal there is well within reach.

Good luck to Doug and Dino!!

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tahrens - 2010-07-28 6:56 AM No races for me.  In fact I don't have any races left between now and Augusta.  Weird feeling.  Goal for the season,  I want to finish Augusta with a strong run, having nailed the nutrition and super confident to start my Canada training.  Even though my last HIM was not so good it taught me what I do bad and how to improve on it.  Therefore strength, running base and nutrition management it is. BRING IT ON!!!!!!

As far as training the weak spot I am right there with you.  For example, I 've bailed on a 4 mile run I was suppose to do Tuesday morning for 2 mornings in a row now.  I've told myself I must go do it at lunch.  The funny thing is  I feel so much better when I complete a training run, but getting my butt out the door is the hardest thing for me.


Good luck Dave and Doug and all the other racers that haven't chimed in yet. 


You will pay come August when you are out running trails with us in Seattle.... NO MORE SKIPPING YOUR RUNS!!!


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Mett - 2010-07-28 6:20 AM ok so I am not the only one that struggles with that one lol I am working on getting to bed early so I can try and incorporate a run in the morning. I love running at the park so I am going to try and do that more.

On a side note: my wife has an interview for a work at home job (a legit one) and I really hope it works out. So everyone pray, cheer or do whatever you do to throw some mojo our way. The extra money would be INCREDIBLE!


This goes to all... If you are weakest in one sport why not focus on it (in the offseason)?  If it is running you hate and you want to be a triathlete, run until you love it (with more structure obviously).  Sign up for an EARLY season 1/2 marathon or 10k, or 5k.  Make it your primary focus. 

Doug maybe you can chime in a little on taking a break from cycling for an extended period.  I would think that if you are still in shape and you will get your cycling legs back pretty quickly! 

I personally think that swimming day in and day out will not make me a much faster swimmer so I choose not to swim that often.  However running or biking day in day out will make me a faster triathlete so that is what I focus on (sort of).... (This is my choice)


Mett- Good luck to the misses!

Racers--- GO GIVE EM' HELL this weekend.
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Mett - 2010-07-28 8:57 AM Here is a question: I am really struggling with getting the running and swimming in. I love the cycling and it is what my buddy is in to so I typically ride w/ him when he asks. Anyone have any tips on how to overcome favoring one sport? I was on a schedule but life shot it out hte window, I am trying to stick w/ it but for some reason it is really hard right now as all I want to do is ride the bike. I love swimming and I am excited I was able to renew my pool membership (17.67 a month!) at the rec center. Running I hate because it hurts and I suck  at it, but I know if I could do it every morning or what not I would get better.


I agree with what the others have said.  I will also say that I have learned to set myself up for success.  I am pretty bad at getting up early in the morning, particularly for running.  I can do it OK a few times a week for swimming but not routinely.  Knowing that, I try and limit the number of workouts I plan to do in the morning.  There is nothing worse than saying you are going to get up in the morning for a work out and then bailing on it when the alarm goes off...very de-motivating for me.  Because of this, it means that sometimes when I can't fit my workouts in at  lunch or in the evening, I am on the treadmill in the basement at night after the kids go to bed.  A little strange sometimes to be on the treadmill at 9:30 pm but that is what works for me.

Two other thoughts for you - you have a biking partner, find a running partner or group.  Maybe there is one at the rec center where your pool is.  It is always easier to get up for the workouts when you committ to meeting someone.  Also, if biking is what you like to do, make that your morning workout - you might be more motivated to get up early.  You will make gains in your cycling from the 15-20 mile rides too, you don't have to go long all the time.

 



I usually do the 20 miles when I am alone, my buddy likes to go big so when I ride w/ him it is always at least 35 miles. I see what you are saying about cycling, unfortunately by me the roads are not safe to ride in the morning and I dont think I could get to anywhere in time to ride. I think running is hte only thing I could do before work. The rec center is too far in the wrong direction lol. Unfortunately my work is a drive and the opposite side of the city from where we live and do everything.

I will look in to a running group, my wife wants to run w/ me but we have a hard time getting someone to watch the little one but we do it sometimes. My cycling buddy will run w/ me once I get my miles down. He runs half marathons and marathons around the 8m or 7m a mile mark so it may be a while on that one. I am truly not making excuses but I just need to figure out how to get the run in before work. I hate mornings as most do I think. I have been better about getting sleep so that may make it easier. And it would give me more time w/ the little one so this may work out.
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Mett - 2010-07-28 6:20 AM ok so I am not the only one that struggles with that one lol I am working on getting to bed early so I can try and incorporate a run in the morning. I love running at the park so I am going to try and do that more.

On a side note: my wife has an interview for a work at home job (a legit one) and I really hope it works out. So everyone pray, cheer or do whatever you do to throw some mojo our way. The extra money would be INCREDIBLE!


This goes to all... If you are weakest in one sport why not focus on it (in the offseason)?  If it is running you hate and you want to be a triathlete, run until you love it (with more structure obviously).  Sign up for an EARLY season 1/2 marathon or 10k, or 5k.  Make it your primary focus. 

Doug maybe you can chime in a little on taking a break from cycling for an extended period.  I would think that if you are still in shape and you will get your cycling legs back pretty quickly! 

I personally think that swimming day in and day out will not make me a much faster swimmer so I choose not to swim that often.  However running or biking day in day out will make me a faster triathlete so that is what I focus on (sort of).... (This is my choice)


Mett- Good luck to the misses!

Racers--- GO GIVE EM' HELL this weekend.


I see what your saying. I am doing pretty good w/ the swimming. I think my long arms, legs and body make me go pretty smooth. The weight is coming off pretty good and that is helping. I still plan on doing my race in September.

My wife is pretty excited, I think she is looking forward to it. I know there are a lot of things we both want and with this extra income we could actually get it.
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No racing for me...I am trying to figure out my schedule for next year...that seems so weird when lots in our group haven't even done their first races or are gearing up for their A races come September, but that's what I get for doing the early season stuff. 

Time to take a short break...today I did an ab/core workout that really kicked my bootay!!!  Not sure what I want to nail...but I do want to nail down my race schedule for 2011, so I'll pick that as my "project".

Good luck to all the racers, Doug, George, Dino!!!  Sorry if I missed anyone.  You guys are all set up to have terrific races with your awesome training (and you are allowed to triple and even quadruple post during race week!


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