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Terps421 - 2010-08-08 11:01 AM And I got to see Tony and Sam race this morning and did they look strong!! The weather was perfect and it was a great race.  Way to go Tony and Sam!!Nice job!

Linda

DougRob - 2010-08-08 7:48 PM FYI: Steve's Wife Kim has gone into Labor!!

CyborgQueen - 2010-08-08 8:06 PMLooks like everyone had a fab weekend!!

On Thursday and Friday - I started to feel a little bit under the weather and sore throat on Friday.  I did my best 5 mi run and fastest pace, and I was HALF sick. It's just so weird because it felt a bit EASY to Moderate, didn't push it at all. Felt like I had a LOT left in my tank!

Well...my sickness decided to put everything on the back burner that night.  Got really sick on Friday night, and energy was depleted. Come Saturday - bagged my brick and swim and did a mini-mini triathlon in my backyard. Felt good throughout, but when I started to run...bleh!!!!!!  It was okay, it's transition focused workouts anyways. 

Today - bleh - bagged my 30 mi bike ride and strength training and just chilled. Not pushing it any worse so I don't get sick.

Tmw will be a bit of a test. 3 mi run.  Will do the best as I can, and if I feel bad or terrible, I'll stop, and just walk.  I have no problem walking or doing anything easy...I'm just coughing a lot, so I don't want to make that worse. 

Oh well - it's bound to come, and i'm just going to chillax, take it easy the next few days and focus on getting better....Better now than a week before my Tri - in  a MONTH! I"M SOOOOO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!! 



TRANSITION QUESTION: For T1 Do you put sunglasses on, then helmet then shoes? Or shoes on First then glasses, helmet?  Or it doesn't matter?

DougRob - 2010-08-08 10:48 PM FYI: Steve's Wife Kim has gone into Labor!!

jvanis - 2010-08-08 10:01 AM I based my estimate off my longer runs I had done.  I have done some 8 mile runs at 8:15 or around there, I forget if I did a 10 mile run previously this year, if I did it was nearly 2 months ago.  Some of my long runs were also done with my wife and were in the 10-10:30 pace range.  

So that is partially how I based my estimate of 1:45 on that.  The second reason behind the 1:45 was looking at the McMillian Calculator, I plugged in a 3:45 marathon (similar to the improvement I saw from 08 to 09, but a little more conservative 4:52 to 4:17 then to 3:45)  I did not expect to drop as much time since I assume the first marathon was the easiest to improve on.  The 3:45 spit out a 1:46:41, so I said lets see if I can push a 1:45.  Also the thought of running miles in the 7 minute range when that is typically where my tri runs are was intimidating, even if they are on the opposite side of the spectrum.  

The reason I got 1:40.  There is no question in my head that the only way I got it was because I had someone to push me at the end.  Three of us started together, and Tony is an extremely accomplished athlete.  In 1984 he tried out for the US Olympic team and ran a 2:18 marathon, then moved to tris after that and raced pro and doing Kona 4x, amongst other things.  About mid way through I was ready to hang together since Mike had "brought" Tony along to help pace, and I just jumped in with them the morning of.  Mike kept telling Tony to stick with me because I looked strong, so he ran back and forth to keep up with both of us.  

The final miles I was out of gas, I think that I am very used to fully exerting myself for my shorter tris, and a 1:40 is starting to borderline my competitive endurance.  That being said, Tony suggested that the 100 minute mark was possible based on where our splits were at.  I said I would try and push, and the last few miles were rough.  If I had not had him a few steps ahead of me, I probably would have let off my pace and not hit the sub 100 minute mark.  

Obviously I was physically able to do this, and I think had I been shooting for the 1:40 mark, I would have paced differently, but mentally it was having Tony there pushing me that made it possible.  

I am impressed with what I was able to push to do.  It makes me feel good knowing that I am still growing towards a goal of being able to qualify while still mainly focusing on tris.  It re-assured me that my aim of qualifying in the next 2 years is very realistic.  

 

CyborgQueen - 2010-08-08 10:06 PM Looks like everyone had a fab weekend!!

On Thursday and Friday - I started to feel a little bit under the weather and sore throat on Friday.  I did my best 5 mi run and fastest pace, and I was HALF sick. It's just so weird because it felt a bit EASY to Moderate, didn't push it at all. Felt like I had a LOT left in my tank!

Well...my sickness decided to put everything on the back burner that night.  Got really sick on Friday night, and energy was depleted. Come Saturday - bagged my brick and swim and did a mini-mini triathlon in my backyard. Felt good throughout, but when I started to run...bleh!!!!!!  It was okay, it's transition focused workouts anyways. 

Today - bleh - bagged my 30 mi bike ride and strength training and just chilled. Not pushing it any worse so I don't get sick.

Tmw will be a bit of a test. 3 mi run.  Will do the best as I can, and if I feel bad or terrible, I'll stop, and just walk.  I have no problem walking or doing anything easy...I'm just coughing a lot, so I don't want to make that worse. 

Oh well - it's bound to come, and i'm just going to chillax, take it easy the next few days and focus on getting better....Better now than a week before my Tri - in  a MONTH! I"M SOOOOO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!! 



TRANSITION QUESTION: For T1 Do you put sunglasses on, then helmet then shoes? Or shoes on First then glasses, helmet?  Or it doesn't matter?

dalessit - 2010-08-09 9:28 AM

RR is done.

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=221408&posts=1&start=1

LOL, hopefully a little less whining in this RR (there still will be some though...)

DougRob - 2010-08-08 10:48 PM FYI: Steve's Wife Kim has gone into Labor!!

badgerintx - 2010-08-09 10:46 AM

Tony, nice race.  Question for you.....Did you figure you Watts / Kg for the race?  If so, what was that number?

Dino 

dalessit - 2010-08-09 10:09 AM

Avg Watts = 185, weight  = 71.8 KG = 2.6 W/Kg

Not too impressive, but with the long downhills where I knew I had lots of ups to do I didn't push it and watts would have been pretty close to 0, so that might be a reason why.

SSMinnow - 2010-08-09 11:43 AM

Tony

Do you use Power Agent?  For hilly courses, I like to look at AVG/MAX screen, especially if you spun out much for a good ready on W/KG and AVG Watts while pedaling.

PS Dig the new avatar!

dalessit - 2010-08-09 10:09 AM

Avg Watts = 185, weight  = 71.8 KG = 2.6 W/Kg

Not too impressive, but with the long downhills where I knew I had lots of ups to do I didn't push it and watts would have been pretty close to 0, so that might be a reason why.

badgerintx - 2010-08-09 11:08 AM

Wattage is what wattage is....it does not lie and nothing to ever be cylinical (its a training / racing tool) about or I may have to sick Suzy on you!  

But how does that compare to your average "Hour" ride on Wattage when you are race simulating?  

What I am chasing is an answer to the question of if your bike split is killing your run at the mile / min pace you want to be during the race.  I have found that be a big issue with me at the Oly distance, You figure you are only gonna be on the bike for an hour so lets really hammer and pass some people, etc.  Not an issue during sprints because of the distances involved.  Not an issue at HIM because you conserve more on the bike knowing you have a 1/2 to run.

Thoughts??    

badgerintx - 2010-08-09 12:08 PM

Wattage is what wattage is....it does not lie and nothing to ever be cylinical (its a training / racing tool) about or I may have to sick Suzy on you!  

But how does that compare to your average "Hour" ride on Wattage when you are race simulating?  

What I am chasing is an answer to the question of if your bike split is killing your run at the mile / min pace you want to be during the race.  I have found that be a big issue with me at the Oly distance, You figure you are only gonna be on the bike for an hour so lets really hammer and pass some people, etc.  Not an issue during sprints because of the distances involved.  Not an issue at HIM because you conserve more on the bike knowing you have a 1/2 to run.

Thoughts??    

jvanis - 2010-08-09 12:14 PM

Typically they say hammer the bike as you will make more time up there than what it does to your run if you are slower.  I am sure there is a limit, but I would guess its higher than I can make myself push. Who knows though?

dalessit - 2010-08-09 11:25 AM

Hehe yeah I have hit that limit, don't do a 40k in an Oly like you are doing a TT, hehe it's bad to finish the oly bike with your tongue hanging out and trying not to throw up...

But the thing is (I believe) to get stronger on the bike so you can ride fast enough to compete but still save enough for the run.