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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by TriAya What the hell? Did you "accidentally" book the wrong date? Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by jobaxas mmmm a team in 2015 I might be interested in that...maybe Originally posted by TriAya Originally posted by bcraht Originally posted by TriAya I feel like I have some important news to share ... durrrrrr travel coma ... oh yeah! The King Man is moving in in March. If we haven't dental-flossed each other by April, including on a long Third-world style road trip out to the prawn farms (YES I REALLY AM A SHRIMP FARMER), we'll probably get hitched. Wait, wait, wait. Fer real? Congratulations, that is happy news!! Very much so. The visiting schedule is as follows He's in Indonesia Oct 17-23 (Mutti's birthday) Putting this in for a team 2015.... ![]() Whoops. A serious accident involving all of my fingers means I will also be in Perf Sep 12-18. So how far away are you? I live like 30 minutes from the airport, up in the hills near Kalamunda. I would LOVE to meet you. I can even find some good vego/vegan places to eat cause there are a few of them at work. (Edited to fix spelling) Edited by StaceyK 2013-08-07 9:09 AM |
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Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() You're talking to the right person! Okay, well, I'm not small, but I am cold, and I don't eat any more than Lauren Goss does. As for warming up, light trotting around should do, and dynamic stuff like arm circles and even bending over at the waist and swimming in air for a couple few minutes should be just fine. Swim cap sandwich: if she doesn't have a neoprene cap, then (with dry hair) latex cap, silicone cap, race cap on top. Keep a pair of old socks on feet AND hands until last minute, then ditch. If there's somewhere she can leave it (or even if not, a toss-away plastic bottle will do), she could bring a Thermos of warm water. Pour down into wetsuit after warming up and before getting in water. I'm a big fan of breathing meditation (not that complicated) and continuing to breathe evenly while getting into the water and for the first minute or so of the swim. If she has time to stuff newspapers over her tri top / under windbreaker before starting to cycle ... it looks funny but it's damn good for soaking up the cold water and actually acting as insulation. Cheap, too. Wool layers will keep you warmer even when wet, btw. For sprint, just a decent breakfast a few hours before plus a bottle of sports drink on the bike. Just my thoughts. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by brigby1 I really don't have experience with swimming in cold water or racing in cold temps, but I do get cold easily and would be miserable trying to stay warm while waiting for the race start. I also agree, that trying to stay warm takes a lot out of you, so I would not be getting into that water any earlier than I had to. I would warm up by doing some running and then do what you said about trying to take away the shock factor of the water right before getting in. As far as the nutrition, I don't do anything extra if my race is under 2 hours ( assuming I have had breakfast). I do like power bars - the brownie is killer, but wonder if she would do well with just a sports drink?I have a couple questions for someone else, really just to run a couple things by the group here. My sister is going to run her first event this weekend (a sprint) and is nothing like me, going to just complete and will likely be more in the back of the pack. I'm actually the same size as say Jesse Thomas. She's similar to but still smaller than someone like Lauren Goss, or maybe Jesse's wife Lauren Fleshman. The two questions come in for the warm-up. Normally I would be all for getting into the water some to get going. The water itself should be fine, but air temps at the time are likely to be in the mid-50's. Her wave is also 35 minutes after the first, so would be 40 minutes or more of being wet in those temps. I'm actually thinking of having her skip warming up in the water and doing things on land. She did gymnastics as a kid and maintains some activities, so between that and what I know, should have her ready to go there. Then get as wet as possible while walking in to start to get past the shock of being wet at that point (water is expected to be nice). Waiting a bit for that to wear off if necessary before diving in to start swimming. My concern with getting into the water is even with having warmer stuff to put on after getting into the water, she'll still be wet in colder air temps. I notice this in these kind of temps and she's substantially smaller than I am, so it can take more out of her. Potentially a lot more. She can be tough when needed and has dealt with colder water then she'll see and colder air temps growing up, I'd still rather put her in the best position to get through this. I know better than to guess at a girl's weight, but she really is close to as trim as the two Lauren's mentioned. I know what to wear on the bike, but wanted second opinions on the swim approach as it's a different world for her having so much less mass than I do. She'll have warm stuff to wear, but it's just different being wet for so long even with that available, so I'd rather avoid that for as long as possible. Also thinking of the safest thing to have for nutrition. And that is confirming what tends to safest for people to try in general, not ideas to try as I know of a bazillion things to use. She didn't think of that at all in training as sessions were short, but I'm guessing this will take in the neighborhood of 1:45 with more potential to go over than under. Generally she can eat anything I can plus more. Powerbar comes to mind as it's easy to find and does work ok for me. A gel or bar she likes the flavor of could tape to the bike and just peel off as necessary. She doesn't have pockets and I don't want to confuse her any more with various bike pouches (yeah, she's really not like me). I know none of this is really ideal, but she tends to wing it a lot more than I do, somehow seems to get just enough direction to avoid disasters. ETA: hey, I gave the same nutrition answer as Yanti. I must be getting edjabacated. |
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Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by TriAya What the hell? Did you "accidentally" book the wrong date? I live like 30 minutes from the airport, up in the hills near Kalamunda. I would LOVE to meet you. I can even find some good vego/vegan places to eat cause there are a few of them at work. (Edited to fix spelling) Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by jobaxas mmmm a team in 2015 I might be interested in that...maybe Originally posted by TriAya Originally posted by bcraht Originally posted by TriAya I feel like I have some important news to share ... durrrrrr travel coma ... oh yeah! The King Man is moving in in March. If we haven't dental-flossed each other by April, including on a long Third-world style road trip out to the prawn farms (YES I REALLY AM A SHRIMP FARMER), we'll probably get hitched. Wait, wait, wait. Fer real? Congratulations, that is happy news!! Very much so. The visiting schedule is as follows He's in Indonesia Oct 17-23 (Mutti's birthday) Putting this in for a team 2015.... ![]() Whoops. A serious accident involving all of my fingers means I will also be in Perf Sep 12-18. So how far away are you? With absolutely no intention of doing so, I accidentally found a (talk about miracles) very cheap roundtrip to Perth during high season! Then I very accidentally typed a bunch of stuff and only came to when a confirmation page came up. It was very strange. Kingsley's in Greenmount. I'll probably hire a car--hopefully I can find a rent-a-wreck deal as well. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by TriAya Greenmout's not very far from where I live Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by TriAya What the hell? Did you "accidentally" book the wrong date? I live like 30 minutes from the airport, up in the hills near Kalamunda. I would LOVE to meet you. I can even find some good vego/vegan places to eat cause there are a few of them at work. (Edited to fix spelling) Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by jobaxas mmmm a team in 2015 I might be interested in that...maybe Originally posted by TriAya Originally posted by bcraht Originally posted by TriAya I feel like I have some important news to share ... durrrrrr travel coma ... oh yeah! The King Man is moving in in March. If we haven't dental-flossed each other by April, including on a long Third-world style road trip out to the prawn farms (YES I REALLY AM A SHRIMP FARMER), we'll probably get hitched. Wait, wait, wait. Fer real? Congratulations, that is happy news!! Very much so. The visiting schedule is as follows He's in Indonesia Oct 17-23 (Mutti's birthday) Putting this in for a team 2015.... ![]() Whoops. A serious accident involving all of my fingers means I will also be in Perf Sep 12-18. So how far away are you? With absolutely no intention of doing so, I accidentally found a (talk about miracles) very cheap roundtrip to Perth during high season! Then I very accidentally typed a bunch of stuff and only came to when a confirmation page came up. It was very strange. Kingsley's in Greenmount. I'll probably hire a car--hopefully I can find a rent-a-wreck deal as well. ![]() |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by amd723 I am not that small but I do get cold. I would suggest that she does a land warm up and then maybe suggest that she gets in the water about 5-10 minutes before her wave starts. With regards to nutrition I normally just use a sports drink (well I actually use lemon cordial cause I don't like sports drinks) on my bike and then eat a banana or two when I'm finished.Originally posted by brigby1 I really don't have experience with swimming in cold water or racing in cold temps, but I do get cold easily and would be miserable trying to stay warm while waiting for the race start. I also agree, that trying to stay warm takes a lot out of you, so I would not be getting into that water any earlier than I had to. I would warm up by doing some running and then do what you said about trying to take away the shock factor of the water right before getting in. As far as the nutrition, I don't do anything extra if my race is under 2 hours ( assuming I have had breakfast). I do like power bars - the brownie is killer, but wonder if she would do well with just a sports drink?I have a couple questions for someone else, really just to run a couple things by the group here. My sister is going to run her first event this weekend (a sprint) and is nothing like me, going to just complete and will likely be more in the back of the pack. I'm actually the same size as say Jesse Thomas. She's similar to but still smaller than someone like Lauren Goss, or maybe Jesse's wife Lauren Fleshman. The two questions come in for the warm-up. Normally I would be all for getting into the water some to get going. The water itself should be fine, but air temps at the time are likely to be in the mid-50's. Her wave is also 35 minutes after the first, so would be 40 minutes or more of being wet in those temps. I'm actually thinking of having her skip warming up in the water and doing things on land. She did gymnastics as a kid and maintains some activities, so between that and what I know, should have her ready to go there. Then get as wet as possible while walking in to start to get past the shock of being wet at that point (water is expected to be nice). Waiting a bit for that to wear off if necessary before diving in to start swimming. My concern with getting into the water is even with having warmer stuff to put on after getting into the water, she'll still be wet in colder air temps. I notice this in these kind of temps and she's substantially smaller than I am, so it can take more out of her. Potentially a lot more. She can be tough when needed and has dealt with colder water then she'll see and colder air temps growing up, I'd still rather put her in the best position to get through this. I know better than to guess at a girl's weight, but she really is close to as trim as the two Lauren's mentioned. I know what to wear on the bike, but wanted second opinions on the swim approach as it's a different world for her having so much less mass than I do. She'll have warm stuff to wear, but it's just different being wet for so long even with that available, so I'd rather avoid that for as long as possible. Also thinking of the safest thing to have for nutrition. And that is confirming what tends to safest for people to try in general, not ideas to try as I know of a bazillion things to use. She didn't think of that at all in training as sessions were short, but I'm guessing this will take in the neighborhood of 1:45 with more potential to go over than under. Generally she can eat anything I can plus more. Powerbar comes to mind as it's easy to find and does work ok for me. A gel or bar she likes the flavor of could tape to the bike and just peel off as necessary. She doesn't have pockets and I don't want to confuse her any more with various bike pouches (yeah, she's really not like me). I know none of this is really ideal, but she tends to wing it a lot more than I do, somehow seems to get just enough direction to avoid disasters. ETA: hey, I gave the same nutrition answer as Yanti. I must be getting edjabacated. |
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Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by TriAya Greenmout's not very far from where I live Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by TriAya What the hell? Did you "accidentally" book the wrong date? I live like 30 minutes from the airport, up in the hills near Kalamunda. I would LOVE to meet you. I can even find some good vego/vegan places to eat cause there are a few of them at work. (Edited to fix spelling) Originally posted by StaceyK Originally posted by jobaxas mmmm a team in 2015 I might be interested in that...maybe Originally posted by TriAya Originally posted by bcraht Originally posted by TriAya I feel like I have some important news to share ... durrrrrr travel coma ... oh yeah! The King Man is moving in in March. If we haven't dental-flossed each other by April, including on a long Third-world style road trip out to the prawn farms (YES I REALLY AM A SHRIMP FARMER), we'll probably get hitched. Wait, wait, wait. Fer real? Congratulations, that is happy news!! Very much so. The visiting schedule is as follows He's in Indonesia Oct 17-23 (Mutti's birthday) Putting this in for a team 2015.... ![]() Whoops. A serious accident involving all of my fingers means I will also be in Perf Sep 12-18. So how far away are you? With absolutely no intention of doing so, I accidentally found a (talk about miracles) very cheap roundtrip to Perth during high season! Then I very accidentally typed a bunch of stuff and only came to when a confirmation page came up. It was very strange. Kingsley's in Greenmount. I'll probably hire a car--hopefully I can find a rent-a-wreck deal as well. ![]() I LOVE DOG SHOWS! Yes. I know how crazy they are. Yes. I know they really are like the movie. Yes. I used to show our Dobies, both in show and obedience. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by TriAya You're talking to the right person! Okay, well, I'm not small, but I am cold, and I don't eat any more than Lauren Goss does. As for warming up, light trotting around should do, and dynamic stuff like arm circles and even bending over at the waist and swimming in air for a couple few minutes should be just fine. Swim cap sandwich: if she doesn't have a neoprene cap, then (with dry hair) latex cap, silicone cap, race cap on top. Keep a pair of old socks on feet AND hands until last minute, then ditch. If there's somewhere she can leave it (or even if not, a toss-away plastic bottle will do), she could bring a Thermos of warm water. Pour down into wetsuit after warming up and before getting in water. I'm a big fan of breathing meditation (not that complicated) and continuing to breathe evenly while getting into the water and for the first minute or so of the swim. If she has time to stuff newspapers over her tri top / under windbreaker before starting to cycle ... it looks funny but it's damn good for soaking up the cold water and actually acting as insulation. Cheap, too. Wool layers will keep you warmer even when wet, btw. For sprint, just a decent breakfast a few hours before plus a bottle of sports drink on the bike. Just my thoughts. ^^ THIS!! I'm not small by any stretch of the imagination, but I get cold REALLY easily and was in that exact situation earlier this year, but chose poorly and got in the water to warm up as we didn't know at the time the waves were going to be delayed by 45 minutes before the RD called off the swim. By the time that happened my hands and feet were numb bricks of cement and I was shivering uncontrollably. It would have been infinitely better had I just stayed on dry land in my wetsuit with something WARM to cover my hands and feet and do whatever warm-up I could out of the water before my wave was due to start. If she feels like she really needs nutrition on the bike, sports drink or a power bar or something? If she's never used a gel while training before, I don't know that I'd want to have her try one during a race when you don't know if her stomach is okay with gels. Good luck to her! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Morning all! I don't have much to add to the cold ambient temp swim except to add that shoe covers on the bike may help her from getting the brick feet prior to the run. Sooooo... is there a system to stalk track our podmates during AGNats? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Going to see a myotherapist this afternoon. Hoping he can "fix" my hip issue. Didn't run this morning because I figured I'd wait to see what he says. I need to get back out there though. I've got a HM to train for!!!!!!!! |
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Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by rrrunner Going to see a myotherapist this afternoon. Hoping he can "fix" my hip issue. Didn't run this morning because I figured I'd wait to see what he says. I need to get back out there though. I've got a HM to train for!!!!!!!! Bring a gag. Anyone within a few miles' radius will appreciate it. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by switch Originally posted by rrrunner Pix are in... AWESOME!!! Agreed!! Pure awesome!! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by TriAya Originally posted by rrrunner Going to see a myotherapist this afternoon. Hoping he can "fix" my hip issue. Didn't run this morning because I figured I'd wait to see what he says. I need to get back out there though. I've got a HM to train for!!!!!!!! Bring a gag. Anyone within a few miles' radius will appreciate it. I've been told by more than one massage therapist that I have an amazing pain tolerance. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by switch Originally posted by rrrunner Pix are in... AWESOME!!! Agreed!! Pure awesome!! Thanks guys The fun part is that there are a series of bike shots that show me passing that other rider |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by switch Originally posted by rrrunner Pix are in... AWESOME!!! Agreed!! Pure awesome!! Thanks guys The fun part is that there are a series of bike shots that show me passing that other rider Pic is great, but this ^^^^ is even better |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Sigh. I just dropped off my son for his first day of 1st grade. Chaos! ![]() |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jogo Sorry I have been absent. I am in the middle of a pity party. Injured again. Tried running yesterday and it scared me. I went from 0 to 10 on my pain in 0.39 miles. I had pushed it to 1.2 miles on Sunday so I was hopeful I was on the mend. I went to the sports med doc finally to rule out a stress fx (mostly because I was scared that if it was fractured I'd do more damage and end up with pins). He did not see a stress fx on plain x-ray but diagnosed it as tensor fascia strain with hip flexor and IS inflammation. He did some balance testing and I failed totally. Physical therapy 3x/week for 4-6 weeks. No running.
Sorry, Joanne, that sucks. Edited by bcraht 2013-08-07 10:59 AM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by 4agoodlife Sigh. I just dropped off my son for his first day of 1st grade. Chaos! ![]() Oh wow. Those are emotional days to be sure. Hoping for a great school year for him. A friend of mine in Las Cruses took yesterday off because her daughter was starting 1st grade. So sweet. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by bcraht Originally posted by jogo Sorry I have been absent. I am in the middle of a pity party. Injured again. Tried running yesterday and it scared me. I went from 0 to 10 on my pain in 0.39 miles. I had pushed it to 1.2 miles on Sunday so I was hopeful I was on the mend. I went to the sports med doc finally to rule out a stress fx (mostly because I was scared that if it was fractured I'd do more damage and end up with pins). He did not see a stress fx on plain x-ray but diagnosed it as tensor fascia strain with hip flexor and IS inflammation. He did some balance testing and I failed totally. Physical therapy 3x/week for 4-6 weeks. No running.
Sorry, Joanne, that sucks. Yes, look at the bright side. Time to improve swimming and cycling? |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by rrrunner X whatever we're on for doing a swim focus. You won't regret it. Though running injuries still suck something major.Originally posted by bcraht Originally posted by jogo Sorry I have been absent. I am in the middle of a pity party. Injured again. Tried running yesterday and it scared me. I went from 0 to 10 on my pain in 0.39 miles. I had pushed it to 1.2 miles on Sunday so I was hopeful I was on the mend. I went to the sports med doc finally to rule out a stress fx (mostly because I was scared that if it was fractured I'd do more damage and end up with pins). He did not see a stress fx on plain x-ray but diagnosed it as tensor fascia strain with hip flexor and IS inflammation. He did some balance testing and I failed totally. Physical therapy 3x/week for 4-6 weeks. No running.
Sorry, Joanne, that sucks. Yes, look at the bright side. Time to improve swimming and cycling? |
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Melon Presser ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Just want to share something that's been heavy on my heart for a while but is especially keen right now. It's been a season of passing for me, and some seasons are like that. A good friend from high school, Chris, just lost his two-year-old baby girl Paige to acute myeloid leukemia, which she was diagnosed with at 6mos. It's pretty much a universal truth that watching a beloved child suffer and pass away is the worst thing that can happen to you. I cannot even begin to imagine his grief. We've been in better touch the last year than the 20 before it, mainly because of Paige. She was an incredibly cheerful, strong, and giggly girl and was astonishingly resilient throughout their entire struggle. He and his family spent much of that time encouraging and inspiring others--mostly those in similar difficulty, but actually, pretty much everyone. Through it all he remembered my races and always wrote to cheer me on. He wrote me on the day of her death, before she passed away, to tell me how well I was doing and wish me luck for Japan. "Humbling" does not begin to describe what that's like. Sports and other external and internal accomplishments are awesome, but in the end, to be like Chris is what I aspire to. It is also THE major holiday in Indonesia right now, Eid al Fitr, the celebrations marking the end of Ramadhan, the holy month of fasting. It's like Thanksgiving Christmas New Year's all rolled into a three-day extravaganza. It's just huge. It is also our first Eid without Pa. He loved this holiday and we always had a big bash at the house. Of course you have to eat with every fresh wave of guests that arrive. I'm watching the lovely fireworks going off all over the city from my window, and enjoying many happy memories, and knowing that loved ones all over the country and world in fact are celebrating. Still, it's a bit sad and quiet ... no fest this year, no siblings and spouses and children and the hundreds of relatives and friends ... only me, Mutti, Kristin, and one guard at our Crazy Castle. |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by 4agoodlife Sigh. I just dropped off my son for his first day of 1st grade. Chaos! ![]() Oh my...hugs, sista:) |
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