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2014-04-28 8:34 AM
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Yesterday, dragged myself out of bed at 5:15 to hit the pool (30 minutes) followed by 6+ miles at easy pace. Spent all day Saturday painting my daughters room. amazing how tired climbing up and down ladder and squatting to get paint and paint the baseboards can make you. Legs felt very heavy on yesterday's run.

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Joe: 23 27:31:00
Mark 20 27:55:00
Jim 20 24:55:03
Lisa 18 25:06:31
Mitch 15 16:24:31
Bruno 11 12:45:00
Samy 4 05:25:03
Rachel 3 04:11:13


2014-04-28 10:45 AM
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Updating from this weekend. My wife abducted for my birthday, took me to Traverse City and forced me to eat and drink too much, which blew the brick planned for Saturday (so worth it). I did get up early and spent 30 minutes in the hotel pool on Sunday. I looked like a stoner when I got out, because of the heavy dose of chlorine and no goggles.

Gabe 25 38:52:20
Joe: 23 27:31:00
Mark 20 27:55:00
Jim 21 25:25:03
Lisa 18 25:06:31
Mitch 15 16:24:31
Bruno 11 12:45:00
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2014-04-28 3:10 PM
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Originally posted by trisuppo

Yesterday, dragged myself out of bed at 5:15 to hit the pool (30 minutes) followed by 6+ miles at easy pace. Spent all day Saturday painting my daughters room. amazing how tired climbing up and down ladder and squatting to get paint and paint the baseboards can make you. Legs felt very heavy on yesterday's run.



Mitch, makes you appreciate the effort of people working on construction sites and working out after work!
2014-04-28 3:19 PM
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Originally posted by trisuppo

Yesterday, dragged myself out of bed at 5:15 to hit the pool (30 minutes) followed by 6+ miles at easy pace. Spent all day Saturday painting my daughters room. amazing how tired climbing up and down ladder and squatting to get paint and paint the baseboards can make you. Legs felt very heavy on yesterday's run.



Mitch, makes you appreciate the effort of people working on construction sites and working out after work!



Agreed, but there is something to be said about folks who don't have to sit at a desk all day. There's got to be a happy medium in there somewhere?
2014-04-28 3:20 PM
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I looked like a stoner when I got out, because of the heavy dose of chlorine and no goggles.



Sure, Jim. Sure. Chlorine and no goggle - that's the ticket!
2014-04-28 6:48 PM
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Originally posted by JBacarella

I looked like a stoner when I got out, because of the heavy dose of chlorine and no goggles.



Sure, Jim. Sure. Chlorine and no goggle - that's the ticket!

Hey man Hash Bash was last week.


2014-04-28 7:19 PM
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Just a simple recover ride this morning on the trainer of 37'.

I downloaded SF Chrysalis and have the bike and treadmill set up next to each other with the iMac in between. Workout review to follow.

Gabe 25 38:52:20
Joe: 24 28:07:00
Mark 20 27:55:00
Jim 21 25:25:03
Lisa 18 25:06:31
Mitch 15 16:24:31
Bruno 11 12:45:00
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2014-04-28 8:30 PM
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I downloaded SF Chrysalis and have the bike and treadmill set up next to each other with the iMac in between. Workout review to follow.




Looking forward to it.
2014-04-28 10:07 PM
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Hi everyone! I've been reading some of the bios and posts here and love it. You guys all sound very knowledgable and very passionate about triathlons and all the individual sports involved! I'm new to the site here and new to the TRI world. I'd love to be part of a group like this that's so supportive and can help (ie DRAG) me get out of bed when that early alarm goes off!

My quick bio:

My name is Dan and I live in Tracy, CA...right outside the SF Bay Area in the Central Valley (home of the windmills and the WIND). I'm 39 next month and married with three kids (11,12,14) and I work as a police officer in the area. So yeah, we can say I started running to work of doughnuts?!? Lol actually bagels ;-)

Former Marine who thought of running as the punishment in most sports I played as a teenager lol. Discovered running for fun about 8 years ago. Ran off and on for a while until i got a wild hair and decided to run my first marathon. Keep in mind I never ran even a 5k prior to that. So did I pick a nice flat one? Nope. Big Sur 2010. I didn't know what I was doing while training but still ran the race and staggered across the finish line at a blistering time of 4:45. But I got the damn medal and finished! ;-)

In 2010 I planned on seriously doing a triathlon, so I spent six months building up my gear-envy driven stockpile. True to my impetuous form I decided an IM 70.3 was a good place to start (yeah I can be intelligent at times lol!). So I started blindly running, biking and swimming planning my dream. Well, one day my appendix decided it was a good time to nearly explode (unrelated to training, actually caused by crunchy style peanut butter...who knew!). So after that surgery, my training was derailed and I lost motivation for a couple years.

Last year I stared running again and this year got serious about it. I also got a little smarter about the training, borrowing articles and training plans from Runners World magazine and such. My goal was to run a half marathon. Well I am proud to say mission accomplished! I ran the Rock n Roll half in San Francisco (I hate hills now btw) in 2:07 and just ran the Mustang Half Marathon in Vegas (I also hate racetracks now too) in 2:01. Still looking to break 2 hours! I'm signed up to run the Capitola / Santa Cruz surfers half marathon in may as well.

I've signed up here to run my first triathlon, an Olympic distance in late June. It's actually part of the western states police and fire games, so it's a good goal and a good place to start for me. I've started the Olympic 12 week basic plan (tweeked a bit here and there) bc after reading all the plans I feel this one fit me the best and have me a great challenge, which I really need to be successful! I've also joined a local cycling group which is super supportive too (but they ride LONG distances...well long to me at least!). Im an "ok" swimmer but working on it! I'm also a very avid hiker and spend lots of time at Yosemite national park and Lake Tahoe.

And yeah...my wife doesn't get my obsession either haha...but she's super supportive ;-)

So that's me!
2014-04-28 10:34 PM
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70 min early morning drainer workout.

Just saw that another indoor trainer challenge is coming up "8 days in California" from TrainerRoad, similar to the Tour of Sufferlandria that both Joe and myself put ourselves through - fun and painful!  http://www.trainerroad.com/8dc-2014

Joe,  anyone else interested?  I unfortunately won't be able to do it since I'm going to Europe this Wednesday on a 2 week business/pleasure trip.   

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Joe: 24 28:07:00 
Mark 20 27:55:00 
Jim 21 25:25:03 
Lisa 18 25:06:31 
Mitch 15 16:24:31 
Bruno 11 12:45:00 
Samy 4 05:25:03 
Rachel 3 04:11:13

2014-04-29 2:21 AM
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Busy week with another one ahead! Wednesday was a 7 mile run, Thursday was speedwork in two parts because it was just that kind of day (traffic accidents every time I tried to drive anywhere, forgotten inhalers, etc), Saturday was 22 miles in the mountains--my first high-altitude run of the year, and Sunday I failed to conjure up the necessary mojo to either run in a late-April mountain snowstorm (which, to be fair, would be along the shoulder of wet, icy roads and not a great plan) or to run on the dry and safe treadmill when we returned home. I blame the hour spent driving over a mostly unplowed mountain pass in poor visibility snow when the storm was supposed to be over. At any rate, spent an hour on the trainer tonight.

Gabe 26 40:03:20
Joe: 24 28:07:00
Mark 20 27:55:00
Jim 21 25:25:03
Lisa 22 32:36:50
Mitch 15 16:24:31
Bruno 11 12:45:00
Samy 4 05:25:03
Rachel 3 04:11:13


2014-04-29 3:07 AM
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Dan, good to see another enthusiast! Sounds like you're motivated. The support, or at least lack of resentment at home is very important and you are the only one who knows how to manage that.
I actually thought marine training would involve some serious running as well..?


1hr run today, no idea of the distance, probably 10k or so.

Gabe 26 40:03:20
Joe: 24 28:07:00
Mark 21 28:55:00
Jim 21 25:25:03
Lisa 22 32:36:50
Mitch 15 16:24:31
Bruno 11 12:45:00
Samy 4 05:25:03
Rachel 3 04:11:13
2014-04-29 7:40 AM
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Originally posted by usmc941

Hi everyone! I've been reading some of the bios and posts here and love it. You guys all sound very knowledgable and very passionate about triathlons and all the individual sports involved! I'm new to the site here and new to the TRI world. I'd love to be part of a group like this that's so supportive and can help (ie DRAG) me get out of bed when that early alarm goes off!

My quick bio:

My name is Dan and I live in Tracy, CA...right outside the SF Bay Area in the Central Valley (home of the windmills and the WIND). I'm 39 next month and married with three kids (11,12,14) and I work as a police officer in the area. So yeah, we can say I started running to work of doughnuts?!? Lol actually bagels ;-)

Former Marine who thought of running as the punishment in most sports I played as a teenager lol. Discovered running for fun about 8 years ago. Ran off and on for a while until i got a wild hair and decided to run my first marathon. Keep in mind I never ran even a 5k prior to that. So did I pick a nice flat one? Nope. Big Sur 2010. I didn't know what I was doing while training but still ran the race and staggered across the finish line at a blistering time of 4:45. But I got the damn medal and finished! ;-)

In 2010 I planned on seriously doing a triathlon, so I spent six months building up my gear-envy driven stockpile. True to my impetuous form I decided an IM 70.3 was a good place to start (yeah I can be intelligent at times lol!). So I started blindly running, biking and swimming planning my dream. Well, one day my appendix decided it was a good time to nearly explode (unrelated to training, actually caused by crunchy style peanut butter...who knew!). So after that surgery, my training was derailed and I lost motivation for a couple years.

Last year I stared running again and this year got serious about it. I also got a little smarter about the training, borrowing articles and training plans from Runners World magazine and such. My goal was to run a half marathon. Well I am proud to say mission accomplished! I ran the Rock n Roll half in San Francisco (I hate hills now btw) in 2:07 and just ran the Mustang Half Marathon in Vegas (I also hate racetracks now too) in 2:01. Still looking to break 2 hours! I'm signed up to run the Capitola / Santa Cruz surfers half marathon in may as well.

I've signed up here to run my first triathlon, an Olympic distance in late June. It's actually part of the western states police and fire games, so it's a good goal and a good place to start for me. I've started the Olympic 12 week basic plan (tweeked a bit here and there) bc after reading all the plans I feel this one fit me the best and have me a great challenge, which I really need to be successful! I've also joined a local cycling group which is super supportive too (but they ride LONG distances...well long to me at least!). Im an "ok" swimmer but working on it! I'm also a very avid hiker and spend lots of time at Yosemite national park and Lake Tahoe.

And yeah...my wife doesn't get my obsession either haha...but she's super supportive ;-)

So that's me!



Dan - Welcome aboard. As a former navy guy I won't hold the Marine Corps history against you. In all honestly, I have nothing but mad respect for the Corps. Also, my wife has a cousin who is a police officer in the San Jose area - believe he might ride a motorcycle. There's a great mix of folks in this group - many have been together for multiple seasons. I am by no meansthe head of this group. I'd call it a committee. No question is too small to ask. Take advantage of the experience here on all endurance related subjects.
2014-04-29 7:41 AM
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70 minutes on the drainer this morning (7x30" @ 121% CP plus 15' @ 90% CP)

Gabe 26 40:03:20
Joe: 24 28:07:00
Mark 21 28:55:00
Jim 21 25:25:03
Lisa 22 32:36:50
Mitch 16 17:34:31
Bruno 11 12:45:00
Samy 4 05:25:03
Rachel 3 04:11:13
2014-04-29 9:18 AM
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Thanks everyone!

Mark, yeah we ran a ton in the marines, but again it was more of a punishment rather than fun lol!
2014-04-29 12:48 PM
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1 hour runch on the dreadmill. I felt faster because I had my new shoes on .

Gabe 26 40:03:20
Joe: 24 28:07:00
Mark 21 28:55:00
Jim 22 26:25:03
Lisa 22 32:36:50
Mitch 16 17:34:31
Bruno 11 12:45:00
Samy 4 05:25:03
Rachel 3 04:11:13

Dan welcome to our group.
Since I'm thinking shoes, What does everyone run on and why. Pros and cons.
I have Zoot TT 6.0. I'v been running in Zoots for about 4 years and love them. Light weight easy for transitions and I don't like socks.


2014-04-29 12:49 PM
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first time counting my laps in the pool! 1250 yards / then 16 miles on the bike. It felt good.

Gabe 26 40:03:20
Joe: 24 28:07:00
Mark 21 28:55:00
Jim 21 25:25:03
Lisa 22 32:36:50
Mitch 16 17:34:31
Bruno 12 14:10:00
Samy 4 05:25:03
Rachel 3 04:11:13
2014-04-29 2:21 PM
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66' doing Sufferfest Chrysalis - before the review - Congrats Gabe on the monthly win. Even without running you smoked us all. Now focus on healing.

So, SF Chrysalis is a structured brick workout designed for a stationary bike and treadmill. The structure is pretty simple, 3' warmup run, 8' bike, 30" transition, 4' run - repeat 4 more times - 3' cool down. After reading reviews online, it takes a little effort to setup the workout. Basically, I had my trainer and treadmill running parallel separated by 3 feet, a transition towel in between for shoe wear, my iMac stationed in front of the equipment and a large fan perpindicular to the equipment. The last part is key as it hits you equally on both pieces. I ran the video off the Mac and used the trainerroad overlay. I screwed this up because my tri bike is in the shop and forgot to configure my cadence sensor on my roadie for trainerroad. I did have my garmin so I used that for cadence, but had not FTP output.

As you'd expect from SF, the cycling was rough. Most of the time of each 8' set is at threshold and/or VO2 Max. Each set has a theme - hills, mashing a big gear while aero, sprints, etc. True to SF form, they were rough. With 30" left in each set, you have to get ready for transition. Had I had my tri bike shoes on, I'd probably have just left them in the pedals, but my carbon roads hoes presented an issue.

With 30" to transition, you need speed laces. Pop on the shoes and hit the treadmill. The sets are 4' and combine both changes in speed and incline. The speed is based on RPE - 10 = Sprint, 8 = 5k pace, 6 = half marathon pace, etc. Max elevation change is 3%. As with the bike, there's lots of pace changes, but the running never lasts that long that it becomes that bad (except for the last 1' of the last set run at 10/10). After about 3.5', time to transition again. The only issue I had was that my treadmill takes a minute to get up to speed, so when I do it again, I may just let it run while I'm on the bike.

The video is top notch coverage from Challenge Roth and has the typical SF mocking you have come to expect. Music is fine as the techno trance music lets you get lost when mashing gears. I didn't find the workout as difficult as the other SF vids and wished there was was slightly more running time. All in all though - it's a great high intensity workout that packs a wallop in 60'. Will continue within definitely.

Gabe 26 40:03:20
Joe: 25 29:13:00
Mark 21 28:55:00
Jim 21 25:25:03
Lisa 22 32:36:50
Mitch 16 17:34:31
Bruno 12 14:10:00
Samy 4 05:25:03
Rachel 3 04:11:13
2014-04-29 3:38 PM
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Originally posted by JoePetto

66' doing Sufferfest Chrysalis - before the review - Congrats Gabe on the monthly win. Even without running you smoked us all. Now focus on healing.

So, SF Chrysalis is a structured brick workout designed for a stationary bike and treadmill. The structure is pretty simple, 3' warmup run, 8' bike, 30" transition, 4' run - repeat 4 more times - 3' cool down. After reading reviews online, it takes a little effort to setup the workout. Basically, I had my trainer and treadmill running parallel separated by 3 feet, a transition towel in between for shoe wear, my iMac stationed in front of the equipment and a large fan perpindicular to the equipment. The last part is key as it hits you equally on both pieces. I ran the video off the Mac and used the trainerroad overlay. I screwed this up because my tri bike is in the shop and forgot to configure my cadence sensor on my roadie for trainerroad. I did have my garmin so I used that for cadence, but had not FTP output.

As you'd expect from SF, the cycling was rough. Most of the time of each 8' set is at threshold and/or VO2 Max. Each set has a theme - hills, mashing a big gear while aero, sprints, etc. True to SF form, they were rough. With 30" left in each set, you have to get ready for transition. Had I had my tri bike shoes on, I'd probably have just left them in the pedals, but my carbon roads hoes presented an issue.

With 30" to transition, you need speed laces. Pop on the shoes and hit the treadmill. The sets are 4' and combine both changes in speed and incline. The speed is based on RPE - 10 = Sprint, 8 = 5k pace, 6 = half marathon pace, etc. Max elevation change is 3%. As with the bike, there's lots of pace changes, but the running never lasts that long that it becomes that bad (except for the last 1' of the last set run at 10/10). After about 3.5', time to transition again. The only issue I had was that my treadmill takes a minute to get up to speed, so when I do it again, I may just let it run while I'm on the bike.

The video is top notch coverage from Challenge Roth and has the typical SF mocking you have come to expect. Music is fine as the techno trance music lets you get lost when mashing gears. I didn't find the workout as difficult as the other SF vids and wished there was was slightly more running time. All in all though - it's a great high intensity workout that packs a wallop in 60'. Will continue within definitely.



Sounds like fun - I'm still waiting ontrainerroad to get their iOS app complete so I can run it on my iPAD with my Wahoo ANT+ key.
2014-04-29 3:54 PM
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Originally posted by JBacarella

Since I'm thinking shoes, What does everyone run on and why. Pros and cons.
I have Zoot TT 6.0. I'v been running in Zoots for about 4 years and love them. Light weight easy for transitions and I don't like socks.


Jim, I currently run in Asics Nimbus, have 2 pairs, but don't like them much. The more you run, the less they fit, too much support under heel and the toes make holes in them. Still have an old pair of Adidas Glide and love them, even though they are a bit heavier. Next shoes will be Adidas again. What bothers me is that every year they change models and they could be different to what you got used to.
2014-04-29 6:58 PM
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Subject: RE: Team Trisuppo - OPEN
Originally posted by markz

Originally posted by JBacarella

Since I'm thinking shoes, What does everyone run on and why. Pros and cons.
I have Zoot TT 6.0. I'v been running in Zoots for about 4 years and love them. Light weight easy for transitions and I don't like socks.


Jim, I currently run in Asics Nimbus, have 2 pairs, but don't like them much. The more you run, the less they fit, too much support under heel and the toes make holes in them. Still have an old pair of Adidas Glide and love them, even though they are a bit heavier. Next shoes will be Adidas again. What bothers me is that every year they change models and they could be different to what you got used to.


Started with Asics Kayanos, went to Brooks Ravenna, then Saucony Kinvara and now Brooks Ghost. Really like the neutral shoe with slight cushioning (Glycerin is much more cushioned). I wish I could have kept with the Kinvaras, but with my heel spur I use heel lifts and the Kinvaras are just too unstructured. I can't be believe that you get 600 miles out of a pair of shoes. I rarely last longer than 350 miles - my knees tell me when it is time to change.


2014-04-29 9:51 PM
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Originally posted by JoePetto

Originally posted by markz

Originally posted by JBacarella

Since I'm thinking shoes, What does everyone run on and why. Pros and cons.
I have Zoot TT 6.0. I'v been running in Zoots for about 4 years and love them. Light weight easy for transitions and I don't like socks.


Jim, I currently run in Asics Nimbus, have 2 pairs, but don't like them much. The more you run, the less they fit, too much support under heel and the toes make holes in them. Still have an old pair of Adidas Glide and love them, even though they are a bit heavier. Next shoes will be Adidas again. What bothers me is that every year they change models and they could be different to what you got used to.


Started with Asics Kayanos, went to Brooks Ravenna, then Saucony Kinvara and now Brooks Ghost. Really like the neutral shoe with slight cushioning (Glycerin is much more cushioned). I wish I could have kept with the Kinvaras, but with my heel spur I use heel lifts and the Kinvaras are just too unstructured. I can't be believe that you get 600 miles out of a pair of shoes. I rarely last longer than 350 miles - my knees tell me when it is time to change.


Half of the miles were on the treadmill. My last run outdoor run with my old shoes had my knees calling me bad names. That is my sign to buy new shoes more than miles. My knees will hurt when the cushion breaks down. We have a really good cushion on our treadmill, I think I could run in my work shoes (leather soled cap dress shoes) on our treadmill without pain. I normally get between 400-500 from Zoot. I've used Nike and only got about 300 and I tried a UA trail shoe and they blew to pieces within 100 miles. My daughters like saucony and my son like Puma (that's a soccer thing).
2014-04-29 11:17 PM
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Dan, welcome to the group!

Jim, I went from Asics Kayanos to Asics Noosa's (one pair even lasted for 1000 miles) and now I just got my Asics Nimbus to see if more cushioning helps with my ITB issue (I'm a pronator).

My last workout for April was today, 1hr drainer, b/c tomorrow early morning I head out for Amsterdam!  Good job everyone with the challenge and thanks for the motivation!

Gabe 27 41:05:20 
Joe: 25 29:13:00 
Mark 21 28:55:00 
Jim 21 25:25:03 
Lisa 22 32:36:50 
Mitch 16 17:34:31 
Bruno 12 14:10:00 
Samy 4 05:25:03 
Rachel 3 04:11:13

2014-04-30 8:30 AM
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Gabe - Great job, AGAIN!

Jim - I ran in Brooks Adrenaline's for many seasons. I switched last summer to Raenna's and still not sure if my feet like them. There is a running store in brighton called he running lab that does a video analysis of you running in the shoes they think work for you. I'm hoping to get out there for my next shoe purchase and see what they recommend. I have sore feet a lot and that is really annoying.

Finished up the month with a 40' run conatining 8 30" fartlek intervals. I'm hoping to find time to sneak to the pool tonight.

Gabe 27 41:05:20
Joe: 25 29:13:00
Mark 21 28:55:00
Jim 21 25:25:03
Lisa 22 32:36:50
Mitch 17 18:14:31
Bruno 12 14:10:00
Samy 4 05:25:03
Rachel 3 04:11:13
2014-04-30 12:13 PM
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Subject: RE: Team Trisuppo - OPEN
50 minutes on the drainer.

Gabe 27 41:05:20
Joe: 25 29:13:00
Mark 21 28:55:00
Jim 22 26:15:03
Lisa 22 32:36:50
Mitch 17 18:14:31
Bruno 12 14:10:00
Samy 4 05:25:03
Rachel 3 04:11:13
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