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Regular 525 | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? She's 42 and I'm 36, we are hoping to start in 2011, god willing. I don't think we are too old. I don't think we will short change our kids. I think/hope we are actually putting ourselves into position to maybe be retired when they are at the ages where we will be taxiing them around to games and practices and what not. I know that is a stretch goal, but we can dream. That's one of the reasons we waited, we have a decent nest egg already and several things in the fire that could really set us up. I think I will try to get things started tonight. |
2011-01-27 1:54 PM in reply to: #3322940 |
Master 1996 Woodbridge , Virginia | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? KeriKadi - 2011-01-26 2:21 PM momo - 2011-01-26 1:13 PM tricrazy - 2011-01-26 10:36 AM I see we have a case of selective to reading.. you focused on the fact i said they are worn out.. but not the fact that mentioned 'high risk pregnancies" and "if thats what you want go for it" yes risks are with every pregnancy but greater the risk with age.. thats all i was saying.. momo - 2011-01-26 8:45 AM i personally think 35 is it.. working in fitness, i see so much.. and talking with people. riskes are so much greater over 35. not to mention you will be 53 when your child is 18. i know two women that are prego.. both are over 40.. one is expecting twin and the pregnancies are wearing them out. they look miserable. but bro.. if its what you and your lady want, go for it. So women shouldn't get pregnant after 40 because they look tired? I guarantee you pregnancy is exhausting and miserable no matter how old you are and a multiple birth pregnancy is a special kind of miserable (I have a set of twins in addition to 2 singletons). People should have children when they feel it is right for them. Risks come with any pregnancy so I can't get on board with that argument either. I will be 35 next week and we certainly are not done having kids yet. You didn't quote me but I did ask what risks you are talking about? You've said it twice now so surely you know. Lets see... Down Syndrome, Aspergers, Birth defects..etc.. Not saying it would happen, but chances are greater.. As a single guy, i meet women that want to have children.. So I'm 37.. women im meeting range from 34-42(so athletic some not).. so im a thinker.. example scenario: so say i meet a lady same age as me.. ripe age of 37.. two years later we are serious thinking of future. so 39, then forty, less have a baby.. my answer would be have you bumped your head. 40 and pregnant ummm no. this is just me though. |
2011-01-27 1:58 PM in reply to: #3325135 |
Alpharetta, Georgia | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? momo - 2011-01-27 1:54 PM Lets see... Down Syndrome, Aspergers, Birth defects..etc.. Not saying it would happen, but chances are greater.. As a single guy, i meet women that want to have children.. So I'm 37.. women im meeting range from 34-42(so athletic some not).. so im a thinker.. example scenario: so say i meet a lady same age as me.. ripe age of 37.. two years later we are serious thinking of future. so 39, then forty, less have a baby.. my answer would be have you bumped your head. 40 and pregnant ummm no. this is just me though. So a 40-year-old woman who wants to have a baby has "bumped her head" and is presumably crazy? Wow. Yes, it's just you. |
2011-01-27 2:07 PM in reply to: #3322903 |
Iron Donkey 38643 , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? Whizzzzz - 2011-01-26 1:10 PM gearboy - 2011-01-24 7:30 PM I am the oldest in my family. My father was about 40 when he married, and 45 when I was born. He was often mistaken for my grandfather. He developed some serious heart problems when I was young, and died when I was in college. I spent my entire childhood keenly aware of death, and the strong possibility that he would die while I was young. I never knew any grandparents, and all of my cousins were at least 15 years older than me on both sides. I had some second cousins, who were all at least 7-10 years younger than me. I think it is partly as a result of those experiences that I have never felt particularly close to anyone in my family... I had almost the same experience. My sister and I are both adopted. I was adopted when my Mom was 42 and my Dad 43. My sister was adopted when I was 6... therefore my Mom was 48 and my Dad was 49! I used to go into my Mom's bedroom and watch her breathe. Because I was afraid of her dying. (She was only in her late 40's at that point...and didn't have any health concerns... but I saw my parents as OLD.) I was lucky enough to have my Dad with us until I was 34. He was 78 when he died... just shy of his 79th birthday. My Mom is still with us... and we're making plans to celebrate her 83rd birthday. Happy Birfday (soon) to your Mom! |
2011-01-27 2:40 PM in reply to: #3325153 |
Veteran 698 | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? lisac957 - 2011-01-27 11:58 AM momo - 2011-01-27 1:54 PM Lets see... Down Syndrome, Aspergers, Birth defects..etc.. Not saying it would happen, but chances are greater.. As a single guy, i meet women that want to have children.. So I'm 37.. women im meeting range from 34-42(so athletic some not).. so im a thinker.. example scenario: so say i meet a lady same age as me.. ripe age of 37.. two years later we are serious thinking of future. so 39, then forty, less have a baby.. my answer would be have you bumped your head. 40 and pregnant ummm no. this is just me though. So a 40-year-old woman who wants to have a baby has "bumped her head" and is presumably crazy? Wow. Yes, it's just you. Probably not crazier then the norm, but yes, there is a higher chance of complications. I do agree that "have you bumped your head" was probably not the best way he could have put it. However, even with potential complications, there are tests one can do, and procedures that can be taken. But the decision is never easy. I always thought that 40ish is a great time to have kids. They are on the way out of the house just when retirement age is looming, so while they go off to university, I'm going to start planning the trips we'll take. Edited by r1237h 2011-01-27 2:43 PM |
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2011-01-27 3:06 PM in reply to: #3325153 |
Extreme Veteran 1996 Halifax, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? I have 5 very close friends from childhood; we still manage a ski trip to NH every winter, personals as follows: 45, surgeon, common law, would like to have kids. 48, surgeon, 4 and 6 year old. Healthy, smart kids. Cute too. 41, Price Waterhouse partner, 8 month old. Expects to have another. 48, Engineer, GM of industrial manufacturer, 4 and 6 year old. Healthy, smart.Ones myGoddaughter. 48, Business Analyst, 3 year old. Healthy, cute. The guys with kids have good jobs, they all work long hours, and all of them like hanging out with their kids and make sure they do. I think they're great Dads and their kids couldn't have done better. They certainly love their Dads. They are also all healthy, but I suspect would still be just as loved if they had any health issues. I would love to marry someone with young kids. Being too old at our age to have kids and be great parents is a load of crap. Complete BS. IMHO. Blair |
2011-01-27 3:29 PM in reply to: #3325153 |
Member 5452 NC | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? lisac957 - 2011-01-27 2:58 PM So a 40-year-old woman who wants to have a baby has "bumped her head" and is presumably crazy? Wow. I can assure you that if my wife turned to me when we're 40 (a couple of years from now) and suggested we have another baby, I would think she had "bumped her head" and had gone batsh*t crazy. That being said, I love kids so I might be batsh*t crazy enough to agree with her. |
2011-01-27 3:31 PM in reply to: #3319237 |
Iron Donkey 38643 , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? Does "too old to start a family" mean to actually just have s.e.x?? |
2011-01-27 3:43 PM in reply to: #3325153 |
Master 1996 Woodbridge , Virginia | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? lisac957 - 2011-01-27 2:58 PM momo - 2011-01-27 1:54 PM Lets see... Down Syndrome, Aspergers, Birth defects..etc.. Not saying it would happen, but chances are greater.. As a single guy, i meet women that want to have children.. So I'm 37.. women im meeting range from 34-42(so athletic some not).. so im a thinker.. example scenario: so say i meet a lady same age as me.. ripe age of 37.. two years later we are serious thinking of future. so 39, then forty, less have a baby.. my answer would be have you bumped your head. 40 and pregnant ummm no. this is just me though. So a 40-year-old woman who wants to have a baby has "bumped her head" and is presumably crazy? Wow. Yes, it's just you. of course i would be tactful in my approach.. "have you bumped your head" would be the first mental reaction to the situation.. im very open and honest.. no filter.. so thats a good thing and is also my down fall.. lol |
2011-01-27 4:50 PM in reply to: #3325135 |
Pro 4824 Houston | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? momo - 2011-01-27 1:54 PM KeriKadi - 2011-01-26 2:21 PM Lets see... Down Syndrome, Aspergers, Birth defects..etc.. Not saying it would happen, but chances are greater.. As a single guy, i meet women that want to have children.. So I'm 37.. women im meeting range from 34-42(so athletic some not).. so im a thinker.. example scenario: so say i meet a lady same age as me.. ripe age of 37.. two years later we are serious thinking of future. so 39, then forty, less have a baby.. my answer would be have you bumped your head. 40 and pregnant ummm no. this is just me though. momo - 2011-01-26 1:13 PM tricrazy - 2011-01-26 10:36 AM I see we have a case of selective to reading.. you focused on the fact i said they are worn out.. but not the fact that mentioned 'high risk pregnancies" and "if thats what you want go for it" yes risks are with every pregnancy but greater the risk with age.. thats all i was saying.. momo - 2011-01-26 8:45 AM i personally think 35 is it.. working in fitness, i see so much.. and talking with people. riskes are so much greater over 35. not to mention you will be 53 when your child is 18. i know two women that are prego.. both are over 40.. one is expecting twin and the pregnancies are wearing them out. they look miserable. but bro.. if its what you and your lady want, go for it. So women shouldn't get pregnant after 40 because they look tired? I guarantee you pregnancy is exhausting and miserable no matter how old you are and a multiple birth pregnancy is a special kind of miserable (I have a set of twins in addition to 2 singletons). People should have children when they feel it is right for them. Risks come with any pregnancy so I can't get on board with that argument either. I will be 35 next week and we certainly are not done having kids yet. You didn't quote me but I did ask what risks you are talking about? You've said it twice now so surely you know. Aspergers? Really? I had not heard that, I'd like a link please. I'll give you Down Syndrome - we birth at home and although I have prenatal care we do not do any testing so we have no guarantees. I'm a firm believer that you get the baby you are supposed to get. Not saying testing is bad, just not for us. I'd challenge you on birth defects. Women who have children when they are older are more likely to be trying and preparing their bodies and taking vitamins, making sure they get plenty of folic acid so I'd like to know which birth defects you are talking about specifically. 'Birth defects' is pretty general. |
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2011-01-27 5:37 PM in reply to: #3325621 |
Veteran 698 | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? KeriKadi - 2011-01-27 2:50 PM I'll give you Down Syndrome - we birth at home and although I have prenatal care we do not do any testing so we have no guarantees. I'm a firm believer that you get the baby you are supposed to get. Not saying testing is bad, just not for us. There are plenty who would say that Down syndrome is enough of a reason to worry. The risk increases with age, and we did do the testing. I'm happy that we did not have to make a hard choice. |
2011-01-27 5:47 PM in reply to: #3319237 |
Expert 1580 Ankeny, Iowa | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? I am the youngest of 4. My mom was 31 and my dad 35 when my twin brother and I were born. I have two older sisters, one 6 years older and one 8 years older. While I felt a little weird since most of my classmates in high school were the oldest while I was the youngest in our families my parents did great keeping up with us, going to our events and such. |
2011-01-27 5:56 PM in reply to: #3319237 |
Expert 839 Central Mass | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? I'd say 40s, with 50 as the cut off. I feel attending your kid's graduation at 68 (if you make it at all) is pushing it, as would be retiring while they were in high school. But if my parents would have waited till they were 50, I would have only known my dad for 5 years. That would have really sucked. And I would have never met my grandma or aunt (who was younger than my dad and died in her 40s). As it was, I still never met my paternal grandpa, and my dad was the middle kid and had me @ 30. On the other hand, I had a friend growing up who had the senior citizens-at-graduation parents, and a couple sisters 20 years older than him. We had that thing <-- when I was 30. It'll be pretty sweet being an empty nester in my 40s. She should still have a grandma at that point too (she even has a great grandma right now). |
2011-01-27 6:02 PM in reply to: #3325687 |
Pro 4824 Houston | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? r1237h - 2011-01-27 5:37 PM KeriKadi - 2011-01-27 2:50 PM I'll give you Down Syndrome - we birth at home and although I have prenatal care we do not do any testing so we have no guarantees. I'm a firm believer that you get the baby you are supposed to get. Not saying testing is bad, just not for us. There are plenty who would say that Down syndrome is enough of a reason to worry. The risk increases with age, and we did do the testing. I'm happy that we did not have to make a hard choice. I have two friends that have children with Downs Syndrome, both birthed in their 20s and are happy to have their children in their lives. I am one that does not understand why having a baby with Down Syndrome would be horrible. The Occurrence of Down Syndrome Most of the time, the occurrence of Down syndrome is due to a random event that occurred during formation of the reproductive cells, the ovum or sperm. As far as we know, Down syndrome is not attributable to any behavioral activity of the parents or environmental factors. The probability that another child with Down syndrome will be born in a subsequent pregnancy is about 1 percent, regardless of maternal age. Down syndrome increases to 1 in 400 for women who become pregnant at age 35. The likelihood of Down syndrome continues to increase as a woman ages, so that by age 42, the chance is 1 in 60 that a pregnant woman will have a baby with Down syndrome. |
2011-01-27 6:12 PM in reply to: #3325710 |
Master 2009 Charlotte, NC | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? KeriKadi - 2011-01-27 7:02 PM r1237h - 2011-01-27 5:37 PM KeriKadi - 2011-01-27 2:50 PM I'll give you Down Syndrome - we birth at home and although I have prenatal care we do not do any testing so we have no guarantees. I'm a firm believer that you get the baby you are supposed to get. Not saying testing is bad, just not for us. There are plenty who would say that Down syndrome is enough of a reason to worry. The risk increases with age, and we did do the testing. I'm happy that we did not have to make a hard choice. I have two friends that have children with Downs Syndrome, both birthed in their 20s and are happy to have their children in their lives. I am one that does not understand why having a baby with Down Syndrome would be horrible. The Occurrence of Down Syndrome Most of the time, the occurrence of Down syndrome is due to a random event that occurred during formation of the reproductive cells, the ovum or sperm. As far as we know, Down syndrome is not attributable to any behavioral activity of the parents or environmental factors. The probability that another child with Down syndrome will be born in a subsequent pregnancy is about 1 percent, regardless of maternal age. Down syndrome increases to 1 in 400 for women who become pregnant at age 35. The likelihood of Down syndrome continues to increase as a woman ages, so that by age 42, the chance is 1 in 60 that a pregnant woman will have a baby with Down syndrome.I agree with you on that one Keri. |
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2011-01-27 6:14 PM in reply to: #3319237 |
Pro 3932 Irvine, California | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? According to these references, the risk for autism increases with the age of either parent: Increase in mother's age: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100208102411.htm Increase in father's age: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5768623 |
2011-01-27 6:15 PM in reply to: #3323246 |
Champion 5495 Whizzzzzlandia | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? Its Only Money - 2011-01-26 3:58 PM She's 42 and I'm 36, we are hoping to start in 2011, god willing. I don't think we are too old. I don't think we will short change our kids. I think/hope we are actually putting ourselves into position to maybe be retired when they are at the ages where we will be taxiing them around to games and practices and what not. I know that is a stretch goal, but we can dream. That's one of the reasons we waited, we have a decent nest egg already and several things in the fire that could really set us up. I think I will try to get things started tonight. I am 40 and Chris is 35. We are in the same sort of situation as you are. I hope things work out, but if not, then it was not meant to be. I'm willing to go through some "assistance" but I'm not willing to do IVF. Some acrobatics, but not a full blown Olympic gymnastic repertoire. We'll see. I wonder what your wife thinks. If her response to this is the same as yours is. I FEEL the pressure of "getting too old to have kids" much more than Chris does. MUCH MORE than he does. I know my situation was not right before... it might be right now, but am I too old? (I mean purely PHYSICALLY. Are my eggs and tubes and is my uterus fit and spry enough to handle this all?) Who knows. I guess we won't know until we try. And we won't be trying until after IMWI. It's in the future, though. I hope. |
2011-01-27 6:22 PM in reply to: #3325710 |
Veteran 698 | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? KeriKadi - 2011-01-27 4:02 PM I have two friends that have children with Downs Syndrome, both birthed in their 20s and are happy to have their children in their lives. I am one that does not understand why having a baby with Down Syndrome would be horrible. That is their choice, and your belief. I believe, and chose, otherwise. Not better, nor worse. Just different. |
2011-01-27 7:25 PM in reply to: #3319237 |
Elite 4547 | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? Just the fact folks are choosing to start a family makes me happy. Choosing to start a family means there is thought and planning behind the decision. The fatalistic "what will happen will happen" is the thing that sticks in my craw the most. As for the "how old is too old" question...it's a personal decision. Communicate as a couple and understand the risks. (as per marchofdimes.org) the risk of having a baby with Down's Syndrome: at age 40: 1 in 100 at age 45: 1 in 30 at age of 49: 1 in 10 about 10 percent of recognized pregnancies for women in their 20s end in miscarriage. About 20 percent at ages 35 to 39 About 35 percent at ages 40 to 44 More than 50 percent by age 45 The age-related increased risk of miscarriage is caused, at least in part, by increases in chromosomal abnormalities. There are clearly risks associated. Read more at marchofdimes.com That said, there are a lot of potential advantages I see with older parents. With age comes wisdom. With increased savings accumulated, a parent may have a better chance to stay at home raising their own child. The fact you are choosing to have a baby at that late an age speaks volumes about your desire to be a great parent. btw, I don't buy the whole "short-changing" theory. Quality trumps quantity in my book. Good luck! |
2011-01-28 6:55 AM in reply to: #3325725 |
Regular 525 | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? Whizzzzz - 2011-01-27 7:15 PM I am 40 and Chris is 35. We are in the same sort of situation as you are. I hope things work out, but if not, then it was not meant to be. I'm willing to go through some "assistance" but I'm not willing to do IVF. Some acrobatics, but not a full blown Olympic gymnastic repertoire. We'll see. I wonder what your wife thinks. If her response to this is the same as yours is. I FEEL the pressure of "getting too old to have kids" much more than Chris does. MUCH MORE than he does. I know my situation was not right before... it might be right now, but am I too old? (I mean purely PHYSICALLY. Are my eggs and tubes and is my uterus fit and spry enough to handle this all?) Who knows. I guess we won't know until we try. And we won't be trying until after IMWI. It's in the future, though. I hope. Yes I think she probably feels more pressure than me. As a guy I don't think I can understand it quite the way she does. We are going to try for a few years and if nothing happens we will adopt. I try to help her not worry about it, we are very much a "What is meant to be will be" type of couple. If it happens naturally we will be thrilled, but if it doesn't we are ok with that too. |
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2011-01-28 7:45 AM in reply to: #3325833 |
Master 1996 Woodbridge , Virginia | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? ChineseDemocracy - 2011-01-27 8:25 PM Just the fact folks are choosing to start a family makes me happy. Choosing to start a family means there is thought and planning behind the decision. The fatalistic "what will happen will happen" is the thing that sticks in my craw the most. As for the "how old is too old" question...it's a personal decision. Communicate as a couple and understand the risks. (as per marchofdimes.org) the risk of having a baby with Down's Syndrome: at age 40: 1 in 100 at age 45: 1 in 30 at age of 49: 1 in 10 about 10 percent of recognized pregnancies for women in their 20s end in miscarriage. About 20 percent at ages 35 to 39 About 35 percent at ages 40 to 44 More than 50 percent by age 45 The age-related increased risk of miscarriage is caused, at least in part, by increases in chromosomal abnormalities. There are clearly risks associated. Read more at marchofdimes.com That said, there are a lot of potential advantages I see with older parents. With age comes wisdom. With increased savings accumulated, a parent may have a better chance to stay at home raising their own child. The fact you are choosing to have a baby at that late an age speaks volumes about your desire to be a great parent. btw, I don't buy the whole "short-changing" theory. Quality trumps quantity in my book. Good luck! i can dig it.. |
2011-01-28 2:15 PM in reply to: #3319237 |
Veteran 314 SoCal | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? there's always a lot of talk about increased maternal age and risk of chromosomal disorders in offspring; it's well-known and documented in the medical literature. trisomy 21 (down's) is just the most commonly known one. something we, as orthopaedic surgeons, often see are the musculoskeletal autosomal dominant disorders: osteogenesis imperfecta, neurofibromatosis, apert's syndrome, marfan's syndrome, achondroplasia -- these have all been associated to one degree or another with increased paternal age (>45, usually.) i distinctly remember on a few of my residency in-training/board exams, the known link between achondroplasia and increased paternal age. and there are the skip-generation, paternal associations (grandfather/grandson) like hemophilia and various types of muscular dystrophy. keep in mind, though, that these are still all rare rare RARE. like >1:5000. -- anyway, for me, at 33 and just now thinking of having my 1st, i think my cut-off is somewhere around 40. but that's just a personal preference. to each their own. |
2011-01-28 2:57 PM in reply to: #3326247 |
Champion 5495 Whizzzzzlandia | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? Its Only Money - 2011-01-28 6:55 AM Whizzzzz - 2011-01-27 7:15 PM Yes I think she probably feels more pressure than me. As a guy I don't think I can understand it quite the way she does. We are going to try for a few years and if nothing happens we will adopt. I try to help her not worry about it, we are very much a "What is meant to be will be" type of couple. If it happens naturally we will be thrilled, but if it doesn't we are ok with that too. I am 40 and Chris is 35. We are in the same sort of situation as you are. I hope things work out, but if not, then it was not meant to be. I'm willing to go through some "assistance" but I'm not willing to do IVF. Some acrobatics, but not a full blown Olympic gymnastic repertoire. We'll see. I wonder what your wife thinks. If her response to this is the same as yours is. I FEEL the pressure of "getting too old to have kids" much more than Chris does. MUCH MORE than he does. I know my situation was not right before... it might be right now, but am I too old? (I mean purely PHYSICALLY. Are my eggs and tubes and is my uterus fit and spry enough to handle this all?) Who knows. I guess we won't know until we try. And we won't be trying until after IMWI. It's in the future, though. I hope. I wish you lived near Chicago! Do you? We could go out and have dinner. This is very much how we are too. |
2011-01-28 3:44 PM in reply to: #3325722 |
Champion 5312 Calgary | Subject: RE: How old is too old to start a family? tricrazy - 2011-01-27 5:12 PM KeriKadi - 2011-01-27 7:02 PM r1237h - 2011-01-27 5:37 PM KeriKadi - 2011-01-27 2:50 PM I'll give you Down Syndrome - we birth at home and although I have prenatal care we do not do any testing so we have no guarantees. I'm a firm believer that you get the baby you are supposed to get. Not saying testing is bad, just not for us. There are plenty who would say that Down syndrome is enough of a reason to worry. The risk increases with age, and we did do the testing. I'm happy that we did not have to make a hard choice. I have two friends that have children with Downs Syndrome, both birthed in their 20s and are happy to have their children in their lives. I am one that does not understand why having a baby with Down Syndrome would be horrible. The Occurrence of Down Syndrome Most of the time, the occurrence of Down syndrome is due to a random event that occurred during formation of the reproductive cells, the ovum or sperm. As far as we know, Down syndrome is not attributable to any behavioral activity of the parents or environmental factors. The probability that another child with Down syndrome will be born in a subsequent pregnancy is about 1 percent, regardless of maternal age. Down syndrome increases to 1 in 400 for women who become pregnant at age 35. The likelihood of Down syndrome continues to increase as a woman ages, so that by age 42, the chance is 1 in 60 that a pregnant woman will have a baby with Down syndrome.I agree with you on that one Keri. I think it is disappointing that we live in a society where disabled peoples contribution to humanity is not as cherished as much as able body people, whether those disabilities are physical or mental (and whether or not mental and physical disabilities should be categorized separately is another matter). I say this having no relationship/friendship/acquaintanceship with any person who is visibly disabled, maybe my view would change if I was faced with those struggles/rewards personally but I hope not. |
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