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 2009-10-25 4:44 PM in reply to: #2478499 |
Elite  3221    the desert |  Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Threadphatknot - 2009-10-25 2:34 PM I was really getting confident but then I had a lousy day today. Was supposed to do 65>12 and ended up doing 68 without a run. Im just plain tired out and I dont say that easily. Otherwise the training has been going real well. Im doing three weeks of taper starting 11/1 whereby I am dropping volume and upping intensity. The big workouts this week are 21 miles run wed. and 120 bike friday. Hope I can rejuvenate before then haha Hope everyone had a better day than me today! I had a relatively easy day, but was feeling the same way - -just plain tired. With about a mile left in my run, a woman running the opposite way had on a shirt that, oddly enough, really helped me. Her shirt read, "Suck It Up, Buttercup". Made me laugh and finished my run strong. Only 4 weeks left - 1 day of bad training simply won't matter come Nov 22nd. Hang in there Phatknot, your logs show you've been putting in the work and will be ready to go, |
| 2009-10-25 5:14 PM in reply to: #2478513 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread |
| 2009-10-25 5:45 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Pro 3730 NorCal | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Glad I'm not the only one who had a less than stellar training weekend, it's nice to have company. Was supposed to ride 6 hours + 20min run yesterday. Wound up with 5:15 in the saddle and no run. Overall energy this week has been seriously lacking, just feeling drained. Sleep has not been so great either. |
| 2009-10-25 8:07 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Extreme Veteran 557 Woodland Hills, CA | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Good news, I caught my IT Band issue early enough to stretch, roll, and ice it way! Had a three hour run on friday night and got in 22.66 miles with only the normal pain of a three hour run. rest day saturday which was spent carving a pumpkin and checking out a haunted house and cornfield; very cool. Today (Sunday) was scheduled for a 6hr ride and a 25 minute run, but ended up being 6:23 on the bike and a 25ish minute run. The battery in my forerunner 305 is not an ironman. Bike went longer because somebody put a bunch of hills in my way, but got in about 116.5 miles. Wasn't feeling my nutrition for some reason and kept spitting it up. Only had 3/4 of a powerbar and One Gu during the whole ride, and that was after just handfuls of peanuts and raisins for breakfast. Forerunner died during the run but looks like I was doing averaging about 8:30s. This is going to be a long slow marathon. I'm onto a recovery week and then into taper. |
| 2009-10-25 8:44 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Master 2411 Goodyear, AZ | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread I think we are all ready to head into taper, LOL. I had a nice weekend, despite getting an ear infection/cold at the end of the week. I took saturday off and raced a HIM today. It went well and it was in Tempe Train well and stay healthy! |
| 2009-10-25 8:59 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Veteran 349 Ironman Arizona via Surf City, USA | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread well Destroyer, you can join a bunch of us as we saunder over the course with our glow sticks.. it will be a pretty sight... coach had me on a recovery week of training because of some fatigue. stayed steady with my 30 mile ride in 2 hrs on Tuesday night and 30 miles in 1:55 yesterday with a 7 mile run today incorporating a 7 and 1 walk breaks... Today I was watching a replay of the 2005 IM Kona Championships, the one in which a man named Jon Blais finished this race just under the time limit. It was special because he had ALS, better known as Lou Guerig's Disease. During the final few minutes of the show, he recorded the closing message: "Live more than your neighbors. Unleash yourself upon the World and go places. Go now; giggle, no laugh and bark at the moon like the wild dog that you are. Understand that this is not a dress rehersal; this is it, your life. Face your fears and live your dreams and take it all in. Yes, every chance you get, come close, and by all means whatever you do, get it all on film..." Jon Blais, IM Kona 2005 Lori....... "Stay Hard - Mack Bolan" |
| 2009-10-25 9:22 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Veteran 215 Las Vegas, NV | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread It is so good to read that others have had the fatigue issue as well. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one. For as good as I felt yesterday (100 miles at 17.5 mph avg and 4 mile run off the bike at 8:26 minutes/mile avg) I had just as lousy a day today. The first time since starting that I just could not talk myself into it. My husband is out of town so I had to work in my swim/run around watching my kids - this was tough. I accepted the run just wasn't going to happen today, but got in a 3 mile walk with the kids. Then at about 4:00 I caught a break as one of my friends agreed to have the kids over - perfect for sneaking in the swim. The only problem was I got into the pool, swam my warm up and did the first 6 of a 30 x 100 swim and just could not do any more. My breathing was off, I could not get any form in the pool at all so I got out. I was so down on myself, but honestly, I am EXHAUSTED. It is nice to see that others feel the same way and reading someone's post that one bad day isn't really going to make a difference at IMAZ. I figure, live to fight another day and I'll try again tomorrow. Happy training everyone. |
| 2009-10-25 9:51 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Veteran 349 Ironman Arizona via Surf City, USA | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Molly, a day or two of rest right now isn't going to hurt you.. It will help. Recovery is so important.... Hang in there... You're doing fine... Lori Edited by TriBabe2006 2009-10-25 9:52 PM |
| 2009-10-25 11:46 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
| Regular 106 SF Bay Area, California | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread I also struggled a bit this weekend but I know I still have to build. Saturday, I did a 100 mile ride and at mile 70, I had a case of Slow Odometer Syndrome (SOS). I saw 70 on my odometer and biked harder for what felt like a long time. When I checked it again it said 71. I couldn't believe it. I biked some more and looked again and it only read 71.8. I expected at least 80. I knew then that I must be bonking. I had only brought three gels with me for the ride. I did the last gel and within a few minutes I was fine. It's weird what your brain does when in low sugar mode. The last 20 miles went faster than those two when I was bonked. Today's easy 5M run and 2 mile swim felt like a rest day. At this point, for most people it is probably better to get a little more rest than push when you are exhausted. My case might be slightly different. I still have some more hay to get into the barn... Good luck everyone as we head down the home stretch. |
| 2009-10-26 1:01 AM in reply to: #2478996 |
Expert 916 San mateo California | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread WTF is wrong with us lately then... I had a good swim on Friday and a good bike day on Sat... I was supposed to do a century today, well that did not happen.. My bike crapped out, I am taking her to the shop tomorrow and fix her up really well.. I could have come home and get other bike, I just did not. I went running and ended up doing 16 miles... The good news is that I managed a pretty good pace.. I acutually did 8:12 minute miles... It was definitly fun..  oh well.. |
| 2009-10-26 7:35 AM in reply to: #1827515 |
Master 2288 Katy, TX (West of Houston) | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread I had a decent workout weekend. Did a 1/2 IM distance OWS on Friday night, a 20.5 mile run on Saturday and a 50 mile ride yesterday. I may be slow, but I feel good about it. See ya soon! |
| 2009-10-26 8:39 AM in reply to: #2479017 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread velasqu7 - 2009-10-26 1:01 AM WTF is wrong with us lately then... LOL! Welcome to IRONMAN! At this point in the training cycle, the cummulative effect of fatigue combined with over-reaching and high volume force yyou to train in a depleted state of recovery. That's the point. It's these last few weeks, where you are tired, going long, and just sick of it that will make or break your race. Sometimes pacing won't be there, and that's ok, you just have to struggle through and get the worouts complete. The hardest part about racing an Ironman is the training. |
| 2009-10-26 10:00 AM in reply to: #2479305 |
Pro 3730 NorCal | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread bryancd - 2009-10-26 6:39 AM velasqu7 - 2009-10-26 1:01 AM WTF is wrong with us lately then... LOL! Welcome to IRONMAN! At this point in the training cycle, the cummulative effect of fatigue combined with over-reaching and high volume force yyou to train in a depleted state of recovery. That's the point. It's these last few weeks, where you are tired, going long, and just sick of it that will make or break your race. Sometimes pacing won't be there, and that's ok, you just have to struggle through and get the worouts complete. The hardest part about racing an Ironman is the training.And all the f-cking laundry!!! |
| 2009-10-26 10:12 AM in reply to: #2479438 |
Master 1591 San Diego, CA | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread AbbieR - 2009-10-26 8:00 AM bryancd - 2009-10-26 6:39 AM velasqu7 - 2009-10-26 1:01 AM WTF is wrong with us lately then... LOL! Welcome to IRONMAN! At this point in the training cycle, the cummulative effect of fatigue combined with over-reaching and high volume force yyou to train in a depleted state of recovery. That's the point. It's these last few weeks, where you are tired, going long, and just sick of it that will make or break your race. Sometimes pacing won't be there, and that's ok, you just have to struggle through and get the worouts complete. The hardest part about racing an Ironman is the training.And all the f-cking laundry!!! I'm with you Abbie ... the laundry sucks and my kitchen has been overtaken by water bottles. |
| 2009-10-26 10:13 AM in reply to: #2479305 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread bryancd - 2009-10-26 8:39 AM you just have to struggle through and get the worouts complete. The hardest part about racing an Ironman is the training. Bryancd With all due respect, sometimes that is not indicated. Blanket statements can sometimes get us in trouble and most training plans are not designed for the MOP or BOP but to maximize the FOP. Sometimes the best thing to do is pack it in and conserve for a better workout another day soon thereafter. This prevents injury etc. |
| 2009-10-26 10:23 AM in reply to: #2479473 |
Sneaky Slow 8694 Herndon, VA, | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread phatknot - 2009-10-26 11:13 AM Blanket statements can sometimes get us in trouble and most training plans are not designed for the MOP or BOP but to maximize the FOP. - 13 points for making a blanket statement directly after saying that blanket statements get us in trouble. That is all. |
| 2009-10-26 10:26 AM in reply to: #2479500 |
| Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread newleaf - 2009-10-26 8:23 AM phatknot - 2009-10-26 11:13 AM Blanket statements can sometimes get us in trouble and most training plans are not designed for the MOP or BOP but to maximize the FOP. - 13 points for making a blanket statement directly after saying that blanket statements get us in trouble. That is all.  This kind of blanket? |
| 2009-10-26 10:38 AM in reply to: #2479500 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread i dont mind losing points, and seconds or minutes haha im not going for KQ, just a finish without IV bags. all i am saying is, while bryancd makes many valid points that we all benefit from, dont be stooopid and run yourself into the ground so you get a DNS or have to compete with injuries. ive done that before during a marathon and its no fun. conserve and be smart if you are feeling craptastic. and bring your blanket if you need one....whatever gets you through it |
| 2009-10-26 10:54 AM in reply to: #1827515 |
Master 2288 Katy, TX (West of Houston) | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread |
| 2009-10-26 11:07 AM in reply to: #2479569 |
Pro 3730 NorCal | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Freeswimmingfish - 2009-10-26 8:54 AM I lost my blanket last time I was there.... Gotta go pick it up! Snuggie instead?? |
| 2009-10-26 11:16 AM in reply to: #2479597 |
Master 2288 Katy, TX (West of Houston) | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread AbbieR - 2009-10-26 11:07 AM Freeswimmingfish - 2009-10-26 8:54 AM I lost my blanket last time I was there.... Gotta go pick it up! Snuggie instead?? Might not be a bad idea....but I am afraid I would trip over it.... |
| 2009-10-26 11:17 AM in reply to: #2479469 |
Expert 916 San mateo California | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread jezzieswims - 2009-10-26 9:12 AM AbbieR - 2009-10-26 8:00 AM bryancd - 2009-10-26 6:39 AM velasqu7 - 2009-10-26 1:01 AM WTF is wrong with us lately then... LOL! Welcome to IRONMAN! At this point in the training cycle, the cummulative effect of fatigue combined with over-reaching and high volume force yyou to train in a depleted state of recovery. That's the point. It's these last few weeks, where you are tired, going long, and just sick of it that will make or break your race. Sometimes pacing won't be there, and that's ok, you just have to struggle through and get the worouts complete. The hardest part about racing an Ironman is the training.And all the f-cking laundry!!! I'm with you Abbie ... the laundry sucks and my kitchen has been overtaken by water bottles. I know... my car smells like I have a dead runner in there... it sucks.. |
| 2009-10-26 11:41 AM in reply to: #1827515 |
Extreme Veteran 459 | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Home is no longer called home...it's just a really expensive transition area. |
| 2009-10-26 11:59 AM in reply to: #2479679 |
Master 2288 Katy, TX (West of Houston) | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread DoloresM2 - 2009-10-26 11:41 AM Home is no longer called home...it's just a really expensive transition area. Now that is down right funny! Over the weekend, I had dinner with this very attractive woman and her kids. They looked familiar, and they were happy to see me..... |
| 2009-10-26 12:26 PM in reply to: #2479473 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread phatknot - 2009-10-26 10:13 AM bryancd - 2009-10-26 8:39 AM you just have to struggle through and get the worouts complete. The hardest part about racing an Ironman is the training. Bryancd With all due respect, sometimes that is not indicated. Blanket statements can sometimes get us in trouble and most training plans are not designed for the MOP or BOP but to maximize the FOP. Sometimes the best thing to do is pack it in and conserve for a better workout another day soon thereafter. This prevents injury etc. Woah! You have SERIOUSLY misread what I wrote and the intent of what was presented. I'm not suggesting people train themselves to death. Nor am I making any statement about any specific training plan. In general, all Ironman training requires a high amount of volume, volume which peaks about 5 weeks out from the race. It is VERY important to try and complete these sessions to the best of our ability as the adaptations we are developing within or bodies are stimulated during this period. I never suggesteed you go out and hurt yourself and I am curious what you read in my comment, a comment by the way which isn't even my own but what you would hear from any coach read in any publication regrading training protocols, that made you think that. |
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