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2009-10-22 9:09 AM
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fattyfatfat - 2009-10-22 7:53 AM Trevor I think I have a discount code for Tri sports somewhere.  I'll find it and send it to you or better yet I'll post on here for everyone.  The are 109 there so might save you some cash.

oh your question.  pedals.  not sure either as i'm in the market for my road bike.  but i'm going used i think.  some recalls on older look keos if you go that route so heads up.



So all the feedback says LOOK KEO. That would be classics then right? I'm not going fancy titanium, so that would be everyones votee?


2009-10-22 9:10 AM
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SSMinnow - 2009-10-22 8:06 AM

Hi All

For those of us who were emailing back and forth yesterday, someone has the "V" word.  I have gotten no less than 100 emails since yesterday morning.  Anyone else? know how to get rid of it? The emails look something like this (and the to name changes each time):

The message or an attachment did not reach the intended recipient(s).

 

   Subject: RE: RE: BT Logo

      From: [email protected]

        To: [email protected]

      Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:50:54 -0600

 

    Reason: content policy violation

    Action: quarantine


So that was Sam then?
And the "V" word? What? Rhymes with "regina'???
2009-10-22 9:16 AM
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TrevorC - 2009-10-22 9:10 AM
SSMinnow - 2009-10-22 8:06 AM

Hi All

For those of us who were emailing back and forth yesterday, someone has the "V" word.  I have gotten no less than 100 emails since yesterday morning.  Anyone else? know how to get rid of it? The emails look something like this (and the to name changes each time):

The message or an attachment did not reach the intended recipient(s).

 

   Subject: RE: RE: BT Logo

      From: [email protected]

        To: [email protected]

      Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:50:54 -0600

 

    Reason: content policy violation

    Action: quarantine


So that was Sam then?
And the "V" word? What? Rhymes with "regina'???


I knew someone from Canada would say that! It's like Sirus with a V.  No, it is not a Sam issue, I actually thought it was a Trevor issue because that is how is started yesterday, now I am just not sure.  Are you getting these emails?
2009-10-22 9:22 AM
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TrevorC - 2009-10-21 7:14 PM new pedals.....look keo classic $109....good?
And what is the difference when it says 'wth stainless steel spindle' vs not.


My husband and I both have these pedals and love them. I don't remember what exactly I paid for ours, but that sounds like a pretty good price.
2009-10-22 9:23 AM
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SSMinnow - 2009-10-22 10:16 AM
TrevorC - 2009-10-22 9:10 AM
SSMinnow - 2009-10-22 8:06 AM

Hi All

For those of us who were emailing back and forth yesterday, someone has the "V" word.  I have gotten no less than 100 emails since yesterday morning.  Anyone else? know how to get rid of it? The emails look something like this (and the to name changes each time):

The message or an attachment did not reach the intended recipient(s).

 

   Subject: RE: RE: BT Logo

      From: [email protected]

        To: [email protected]

      Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:50:54 -0600

 

    Reason: content policy violation

    Action: quarantine


So that was Sam then?
And the "V" word? What? Rhymes with "regina'???


I knew someone from Canada would say that! It's like Sirus with a V.  No, it is not a Sam issue, I actually thought it was a Trevor issue because that is how is started yesterday, now I am just not sure.  Are you getting these emails?


Says Content policy violation, that means something in the e-mail is not passing your filters, not a virus.  Could be Sam's footer which has Bank in it and your filter might be set rather tight to block all those spam e-mails about banking.
2009-10-22 9:30 AM
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SSMinnow - 2009-10-22 9:16 AM
TrevorC - 2009-10-22 9:10 AM
SSMinnow - 2009-10-22 8:06 AM

Hi All

For those of us who were emailing back and forth yesterday, someone has the "V" word.  I have gotten no less than 100 emails since yesterday morning.  Anyone else? know how to get rid of it? The emails look something like this (and the to name changes each time):

The message or an attachment did not reach the intended recipient(s).

 

   Subject: RE: RE: BT Logo

      From: [email protected]

        To: [email protected]

      Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:50:54 -0600

 

    Reason: content policy violation

    Action: quarantine


So that was Sam then?
And the "V" word? What? Rhymes with "regina'???


I knew someone from Canada would say that! It's like Sirus with a V.  No, it is not a Sam issue, I actually thought it was a Trevor issue because that is how is started yesterday, now I am just not sure.  Are you getting these emails?


lol! and i was blaming him too. 


2009-10-22 9:30 AM
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No sorry Suzy.  I didn't get any of the mass emails you were referencing yesterday or the error message.  Hope it gets worked out.
2009-10-22 9:42 AM
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2009-10-22 9:44 AM
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fattyfatfat - 2009-10-22 9:30 AM
SSMinnow - 2009-10-22 9:16 AM
TrevorC - 2009-10-22 9:10 AM
SSMinnow - 2009-10-22 8:06 AM

Hi All

For those of us who were emailing back and forth yesterday, someone has the "V" word.  I have gotten no less than 100 emails since yesterday morning.  Anyone else? know how to get rid of it? The emails look something like this (and the to name changes each time):

The message or an attachment did not reach the intended recipient(s).

 

   Subject: RE: RE: BT Logo

      From: [email protected]

        To: [email protected]

      Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:50:54 -0600

 

    Reason: content policy violation

    Action: quarantine


So that was Sam then?
And the "V" word? What? Rhymes with "regina'???


I knew someone from Canada would say that! It's like Sirus with a V.  No, it is not a Sam issue, I actually thought it was a Trevor issue because that is how is started yesterday, now I am just not sure.  Are you getting these emails?


lol! and i was blaming him too. 


Nope not me but we could just blame the banks - they are the root of all trouble right now.  LOL  

Shhh - don't let my association know I said that!  Of course, funny thing is I know nothing about banking - I just work in IT.

2009-10-22 9:44 AM
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Trisports coupon. 

Order today through Thursday and receive 10% off your entire purchase - including sale items!  Plus, if your order equals $150.00 or more, you qualify for free standard shipping for orders shipped within the continental US.  Order using coupon code OCT10-E.  Please see below for full details.


Edited by fattyfatfat 2009-10-22 9:45 AM
2009-10-22 10:07 AM
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Couple of quick training anecdotes:

Last night while riding my road bike on the CT on the IM Lake Placid course, I passed and led the pace rider for the first time! He passed me back eventually on a downhill. Without real gravity I cannot get up into the 40's like the pacer does without larger gears. I lasted 55 minutes and averaged 21.75 mph. I have seen my Watts and speed steadily increase. I also sweat buckets!

This Am on my morning run I tripped about 3 miles into the run. I scraped my knee and the knuckles on my right hand as well as scraping my right ring fiinger tip preet bad. I am sure it looked like pure grace in action. D'oh! I am happy to say I could keepp running and it was a pretty good run. Oh yeah I wore compression socks fo rthe first time and I liekd them. I was luck to be wearing them and long sleeves or I would have had more road rash.


2009-10-22 10:10 AM
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fattyfatfat - 2009-10-22 8:44 AM Trisports coupon. 

Order today through Thursday and receive 10% off your entire purchase - including sale items!  Plus, if your order equals $150.00 or more, you qualify for free standard shipping for orders shipped within the continental US.  Order using coupon code OCT10-E.  Please see below for full details.


I get that email as well. But if you are a performace member on BT we can get 15% off and free shipping. In Canada we dont get free shipping, but an equivalent value of US ground shipping taken off our order.

Now which pedals of the 2?
2009-10-22 10:32 AM
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TrevorC - 2009-10-22 11:10 AM
fattyfatfat - 2009-10-22 8:44 AM Trisports coupon. 

Order today through Thursday and receive 10% off your entire purchase - including sale items!  Plus, if your order equals $150.00 or more, you qualify for free standard shipping for orders shipped within the continental US.  Order using coupon code OCT10-E.  Please see below for full details.


I get that email as well. But if you are a performace member on BT we can get 15% off and free shipping. In Canada we dont get free shipping, but an equivalent value of US ground shipping taken off our order.

Now which pedals of the 2?


It looks like the main difference is the one with the spindle is adjustable and the other isn't.  also i'm guessing the one with the spindle is more durable.  I've have the keo sprints (for 4yrs) and love them.  They have the spindle but i've never made any adjustment in tension.
2009-10-22 11:07 AM
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TrevorC - 2009-10-22 10:10 AM
fattyfatfat - 2009-10-22 8:44 AM Trisports coupon. 

Order today through Thursday and receive 10% off your entire purchase - including sale items!  Plus, if your order equals $150.00 or more, you qualify for free standard shipping for orders shipped within the continental US.  Order using coupon code OCT10-E.  Please see below for full details.


I get that email as well. But if you are a performace member on BT we can get 15% off and free shipping. In Canada we dont get free shipping, but an equivalent value of US ground shipping taken off our order.

Now which pedals of the 2?


oh. ok. good to know thanks.

trisports recommendation is for heavier riders to go with the classic as its a bit stronger.  according to trisports, the spindle is a bit weaker than the axle, hence better suited for fatty's.

also the 4.5 degrees of play come from the cleat.  you have three option's.  grey, 4.5 degrees comes standard with the pedal.  they don't allow you to sub it out.  so if you wanted less or more you have to pay.  there are three option 0 degrees (black), 4.5 (grey), and 9 (red)  i use red.   cleats run in the 30 dollar range. 

not sure about the materials.  i have emails in to look-usa and look-france for clarification.  it says stainless in some areas and steel in others.  nowhere do i see CrMo for this pedal.  nor did the trisports rep.  i'll let you know what look says


2009-10-22 11:19 AM
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fattyfatfat - 2009-10-22 10:07 AM
TrevorC - 2009-10-22 10:10 AM
fattyfatfat - 2009-10-22 8:44 AM Trisports coupon. 

Order today through Thursday and receive 10% off your entire purchase - including sale items!  Plus, if your order equals $150.00 or more, you qualify for free standard shipping for orders shipped within the continental US.  Order using coupon code OCT10-E.  Please see below for full details.


I get that email as well. But if you are a performace member on BT we can get 15% off and free shipping. In Canada we dont get free shipping, but an equivalent value of US ground shipping taken off our order.

Now which pedals of the 2?


oh. ok. good to know thanks.

trisports recommendation is for heavier riders to go with the classic as its a bit stronger.  according to trisports, the spindle is a bit weaker than the axle, hence better suited for fatty's.

also the 4.5 degrees of play come from the cleat.  you have three option's.  grey, 4.5 degrees comes standard with the pedal.  they don't allow you to sub it out.  so if you wanted less or more you have to pay.  there are three option 0 degrees (black), 4.5 (grey), and 9 (red)  i use red.   cleats run in the 30 dollar range. 

not sure about the materials.  i have emails in to look-usa and look-france for clarification.  it says stainless in some areas and steel in others.  nowhere do i see CrMo for this pedal.  nor did the trisports rep.  i'll let you know what look says



Sweet...so get the the look classic...Not with stainless steel spindle. Straight up Classic.
grey comes with pedal. I could upgrade to red later if i wanted ?
I think that is the way to go then.
Thanksfor the help...putting in the order in an hour or so.
Going to get some pedals, and buying a few of the old Kona Ironman DVD's. and we'll see what else I can find.
2009-10-22 11:38 AM
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DougRob - 2009-10-22 10:07 AM Couple of quick training anecdotes:

Last night while riding my road bike on the CT on the IM Lake Placid course, I passed and led the pace rider for the first time! He passed me back eventually on a downhill. Without real gravity I cannot get up into the 40's like the pacer does without larger gears. I lasted 55 minutes and averaged 21.75 mph. I have seen my Watts and speed steadily increase. I also sweat buckets!

This Am on my morning run I tripped about 3 miles into the run. I scraped my knee and the knuckles on my right hand as well as scraping my right ring fiinger tip preet bad. I am sure it looked like pure grace in action. D'oh! I am happy to say I could keepp running and it was a pretty good run. Oh yeah I wore compression socks fo rthe first time and I liekd them. I was luck to be wearing them and long sleeves or I would have had more road rash.


Nice job putting the hammer down on the pacer.  I do have a question about that.  I often set up a pacer and even though I put out more AVGW than him he always smokes me.  Why?


2009-10-22 12:00 PM
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SSMinnow - 2009-10-22 12:38 PM
DougRob - 2009-10-22 10:07 AM Couple of quick training anecdotes:

Last night while riding my road bike on the CT on the IM Lake Placid course, I passed and led the pace rider for the first time! He passed me back eventually on a downhill. Without real gravity I cannot get up into the 40's like the pacer does without larger gears. I lasted 55 minutes and averaged 21.75 mph. I have seen my Watts and speed steadily increase. I also sweat buckets!

This Am on my morning run I tripped about 3 miles into the run. I scraped my knee and the knuckles on my right hand as well as scraping my right ring fiinger tip preet bad. I am sure it looked like pure grace in action. D'oh! I am happy to say I could keepp running and it was a pretty good run. Oh yeah I wore compression socks fo rthe first time and I liekd them. I was luck to be wearing them and long sleeves or I would have had more road rash.


Nice job putting the hammer down on the pacer.  I do have a question about that.  I often set up a pacer and even though I put out more AVGW than him he always smokes me.  Why?


I am not sure, could it be that you need to run the calibration steps again? Maybe the resistance needs to be adjusted.

Edited by DougRob 2009-10-22 12:01 PM
2009-10-22 12:05 PM
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So any ideas on what to put in my special needs bag for the marathon portion of B2B?  I am thinking a change of socks, shoes, more medical tape and ace wraps for my calf, an extra bottle of gel, an extra hat and maybe a few Vicodin and shots of Jack Daniels.   What would you guys want with you?  Steve and Ryan, what do you guys pack?   For my hubby on the bike I am thinking of giving him my entire bike repair kit and a few extra tires, new socks, nutrition, sun glasses,  any other suggestions?
2009-10-22 12:07 PM
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Too bad about the fall Doug. the good thing is that the body heals well and you won't even see a mark soon. I can imagine how graceful you must have been.

I have been planning my next years tri's and as much as I want to do an IM I just don't see it in the books for next year. Too much traiing and not enough time to get it all in. Sooo  I am going to stretch it out and train over the next year and a half an aim for an IM in 2011. That should allow me enough time to build up the endurance and stamina required while remaining married.

Oh yeah and Suzy I see you're being awefully tough on us Canadians. Re trevor's comment

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Redknight - 2009-10-22 1:07 PM

Too bad about the fall Doug. the good thing is that the body heals well and you won't even see a mark soon. I can imagine how graceful you must have been.

I have been planning my next years tri's and as much as I want to do an IM I just don't see it in the books for next year. Too much traiing and not enough time to get it all in. Sooo  I am going to stretch it out and train over the next year and a half an aim for an IM in 2011. That should allow me enough time to build up the endurance and stamina required while remaining married.

Oh yeah and Suzy I see you're being awefully tough on us Canadians. Re trevor's comment





IMCA 2011 with Steve, Ryan and me.   All the way baby!!!!
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TrevorC - 2009-10-22 11:19 AM
Sweet...so get the the look classic...Not with stainless steel spindle. Straight up Classic.
grey comes with pedal. I could upgrade to red later if i wanted ?
I think that is the way to go then.
Thanksfor the help...putting in the order in an hour or so.
Going to get some pedals, and buying a few of the old Kona Ironman DVD's. and we'll see what else I can find.


and then you can burn those dvd's and and send em' to texas. 


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TrevorC - 2009-10-22 12:19 PM
fattyfatfat - 2009-10-22 10:07 AM
TrevorC - 2009-10-22 10:10 AM
fattyfatfat - 2009-10-22 8:44 AM Trisports coupon. 

Order today through Thursday and receive 10% off your entire purchase - including sale items!  Plus, if your order equals $150.00 or more, you qualify for free standard shipping for orders shipped within the continental US.  Order using coupon code OCT10-E.  Please see below for full details.


I get that email as well. But if you are a performace member on BT we can get 15% off and free shipping. In Canada we dont get free shipping, but an equivalent value of US ground shipping taken off our order.

Now which pedals of the 2?


oh. ok. good to know thanks.

trisports recommendation is for heavier riders to go with the classic as its a bit stronger.  according to trisports, the spindle is a bit weaker than the axle, hence better suited for fatty's.

also the 4.5 degrees of play come from the cleat.  you have three option's.  grey, 4.5 degrees comes standard with the pedal.  they don't allow you to sub it out.  so if you wanted less or more you have to pay.  there are three option 0 degrees (black), 4.5 (grey), and 9 (red)  i use red.   cleats run in the 30 dollar range. 

not sure about the materials.  i have emails in to look-usa and look-france for clarification.  it says stainless in some areas and steel in others.  nowhere do i see CrMo for this pedal.  nor did the trisports rep.  i'll let you know what look says



Sweet...so get the the look classic...Not with stainless steel spindle. Straight up Classic.
grey comes with pedal. I could upgrade to red later if i wanted ?
I think that is the way to go then.
Thanksfor the help...putting in the order in an hour or so.
Going to get some pedals, and buying a few of the old Kona Ironman DVD's. and we'll see what else I can find.


On the pedal note..  either way i don't think you need to worry about the durability.  I ride with a guy who played linebacker in college and is at least 260 and really grinds the pedals and he's had his keo's with spindle for 4 yrs with no problem.  The only thing you have to think about is if you want the ability to adjust the tension on your release/clip-in and the height between the axle of the pedal and the cleat. 
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SSMinnow - 2009-10-22 12:38 PM
DougRob - 2009-10-22 10:07 AM Couple of quick training anecdotes:

Last night while riding my road bike on the CT on the IM Lake Placid course, I passed and led the pace rider for the first time! He passed me back eventually on a downhill. Without real gravity I cannot get up into the 40's like the pacer does without larger gears. I lasted 55 minutes and averaged 21.75 mph. I have seen my Watts and speed steadily increase. I also sweat buckets!

This Am on my morning run I tripped about 3 miles into the run. I scraped my knee and the knuckles on my right hand as well as scraping my right ring fiinger tip preet bad. I am sure it looked like pure grace in action. D'oh! I am happy to say I could keepp running and it was a pretty good run. Oh yeah I wore compression socks fo rthe first time and I liekd them. I was luck to be wearing them and long sleeves or I would have had more road rash.


Nice job putting the hammer down on the pacer.  I do have a question about that.  I often set up a pacer and even though I put out more AVGW than him he always smokes me.  Why?


So are you saying you are putting out more Watts/Kg than the pacer and it is still beating you?  That doesn't seem right.

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dalessit - 2009-10-22 1:38 PM

So are you saying you are putting out more Watts/Kg than the pacer and it is still beating you?  That doesn't seem right.



I'm not a watts/power guy by any means, but isn't it possible to crank out more wattage in a lower gear making you slower?  If you are only cranking out a few % points more watts, but the pacer is using, say, 10% more gear he should have a speed advantage, at least in my simple mind.

Would it be similar to my Chevelle compared to my wife's Kia.  The Chevelle has about 410 HP, but if I drive the Chevelle around in 1st her Kia will win everytime over a long distance.

There was an article about this in Triathlete sometime in early 2008.  Not the Chevelle part, but the wattage vs gearing issue.


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DougRob - 2009-10-22 11:07 AM Couple of quick training anecdotes:

This Am on my morning run I tripped about 3 miles into the run. I scraped my knee and the knuckles on my right hand as well as scraping my right ring fiinger tip preet bad. I am sure it looked like pure grace in action. D'oh!


I hate to admit I had to chuckle a little...because I've done this.  I would bet $100 your first move was to look around to see if anyone looking?  So I'm not laughing at your fall  - just that I can see the stumble and the "look around"

BTW, nice ride.

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