Mad Manatees 2015.4 CLOSED (or Poptart/pet pic ticket) (Page 32)

Oh no! Hope you heal up soon!

I had a really fun time at my race Saturday; got a little banged up, but that is trail running!  Here's the race report 

Think the most painful part may actually be dealing with sticky bandages & tape.

Oh crap, Ben!!! I had no idea. You just fly under that radar.

Man. So, you will be busy with rehab. Is any kind of training in the cards?

Getting our first snow in Santa Fe, although the mountains have been getting it for a couple weeks. 

Pretty

Nice!  But I am a bit jealous!!

I really have been meaning to post my bio (yep, 32 pages later...) particularly because I am in a strange place with my racing and training. Maybe I can get some feedback.

When I get a minute I am going to post it. I'm sure I will get that minute soon, right? 

Ben - wow, sounds nasty and painful.  Heal well and heal quickly!

Glad to hear both Marys are on the mend.

Darren - it was good to hear from ya briefly, hope all is going well.

Chris - sounds like your trip and tour were very fun!

Ann-Marie - uh oh, boo-boos.  Trails have a way of biting people sometimes.  Heal up quickly, I'll check out the RR later.

Janyne - Zoe looks to be keeping you on your toes these days, the adorable little fluff ball that she is!

Uh, now I'm stalling out.  I know there were more people and things to address but I forgot.  Swiss cheese brain, my apologies.  I've been very busy with work, hockey, and organizing/cleaning Dad's house and my own.  There is definitely a lesson being learned as we go through Dad's house as to our own tendencies to hold onto things that really don't need kept.  Not that he or my mom were hoarders, very far from it, but just stuff we come across and say, "Now why did s/he [or they] keep that?"

I didn't have an x-ray pic or anything like that to show. Mostly just looking forward to getting the stitches out next Wednesday. After that is probably a few more weeks still entirely in the sling. Hoping to at least be in a stationary recumbent bike at that time. Therapy will start some time after the stitches are out I believe. Just some very basic motions for now so i don't lose everything. shoulder shrugs, elbow bending, grabbing a ball.

Haven't seen any Dr Stein style creativity. 

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Originally posted by Richardsdrr

Originally posted by Asalzwed

I really have been meaning to post my bio (yep, 32 pages later...) particularly because I am in a strange place with my racing and training. Maybe I can get some feedback.

When I get a minute I am going to post it. I'm sure I will get that minute soon, right? 

I was tempted to ask those that know me to write my bio. One sentence each. Could be interesting

Master of the mini taper is a good start

Originally posted by marysia83 Happy Monday! I think I am this [ ] close to figure out my swimming issues (or rather: front crawl issues). Those damn legs. I am trying to do my best to keep them as close to the border of water and air, but they keep going down. I don't bend my knees, I kick from hips, I have my feet like ballerina, I do the "coin" trick, I don't know what else... I tried to swim with that fancy foam between my knees and it was extremely helpful. I could just go on and on.... Once I had to use my own awesome legs - I was praying to be back to the wall... Has anyone experienced this whole leg drag and was able to figure it out? Please tell me it is fixable...! Congrats to all the weekend racers How do you feel today? Mary

I hear ya' Mary. My kick was (is) my biggest issue. I started working with a coach at one point who made me do kick sets with a paddle board and no fins. That'll make you work on the effectiveness of the kick.  Mine was a combination of not working enough from the hip and not kicking hard enough. He told me to act like I was kicking a bug off my foot. I don't know that kicking like that all the time is sustainable for me but my kick did improve... until I gave up swimming altogether

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by marysia83 Happy Monday! I think I am this [ ] close to figure out my swimming issues (or rather: front crawl issues). Those damn legs. I am trying to do my best to keep them as close to the border of water and air, but they keep going down. I don't bend my knees, I kick from hips, I have my feet like ballerina, I do the "coin" trick, I don't know what else... I tried to swim with that fancy foam between my knees and it was extremely helpful. I could just go on and on.... Once I had to use my own awesome legs - I was praying to be back to the wall... Has anyone experienced this whole leg drag and was able to figure it out? Please tell me it is fixable...! Congrats to all the weekend racers How do you feel today? Mary

I hear ya' Mary. My kick was (is) my biggest issue. I started working with a coach at one point who made me do kick sets with a paddle board and no fins. That'll make you work on the effectiveness of the kick.  Mine was a combination of not working enough from the hip and not kicking hard enough. He told me to act like I was kicking a bug off my foot. I don't know that kicking like that all the time is sustainable for me but my kick did improve... until I gave up swimming altogether

I know Yanti had saved one of the dumbest looking videos another had posted on this (chickens & wacky props), but it does work. The sinking is more balance and core use to fix. Feels really weird & awkward at first but need to learn how to use the core correctly to accomplish this. Legs are to drive rotation and can be used for propulsion at times. Shouldn't be so much for lift.

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by marysia83 Happy Monday! I think I am this [ ] close to figure out my swimming issues (or rather: front crawl issues). Those damn legs. I am trying to do my best to keep them as close to the border of water and air, but they keep going down. I don't bend my knees, I kick from hips, I have my feet like ballerina, I do the "coin" trick, I don't know what else... I tried to swim with that fancy foam between my knees and it was extremely helpful. I could just go on and on.... Once I had to use my own awesome legs - I was praying to be back to the wall... Has anyone experienced this whole leg drag and was able to figure it out? Please tell me it is fixable...! Congrats to all the weekend racers How do you feel today? Mary

I hear ya' Mary. My kick was (is) my biggest issue. I started working with a coach at one point who made me do kick sets with a paddle board and no fins. That'll make you work on the effectiveness of the kick.  Mine was a combination of not working enough from the hip and not kicking hard enough. He told me to act like I was kicking a bug off my foot. I don't know that kicking like that all the time is sustainable for me but my kick did improve... until I gave up swimming altogether

I know Yanti had saved one of the dumbest looking videos another had posted on this (chickens & wacky props), but it does work. The sinking is more balance and core use to fix. Feels really weird & awkward at first but need to learn how to use the core correctly to accomplish this. Legs are to drive rotation and can be used for propulsion at times. Shouldn't be so much for lift.

I had it bookmarked on my old computer but not this new one! Had to use some serious Google Fu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW5nE5FBPsQ

Really, really good ... for anyone.

Originally posted by marysia83 Happy Monday! I think I am this [ ] close to figure out my swimming issues (or rather: front crawl issues). Those damn legs. I am trying to do my best to keep them as close to the border of water and air, but they keep going down. I don't bend my knees, I kick from hips, I have my feet like ballerina, I do the "coin" trick, I don't know what else... I tried to swim with that fancy foam between my knees and it was extremely helpful. I could just go on and on.... Once I had to use my own awesome legs - I was praying to be back to the wall... Has anyone experienced this whole leg drag and was able to figure it out? Please tell me it is fixable...! Congrats to all the weekend racers How do you feel today? Mary

Absolutely it gets better, if you keep seeking, trying, giving time and effort, and you certainly are

We forget that as children it took a while to learn how to balance on two legs to walk, and then to walk with good balance, and then to walk with endurance.

We forget that when we learned how to ride a bike, there was a lot of balancing and falling and time involved with learning how to go around corners, uphill, downhill, different speeds.

We think of the swim as a small proportion of triathlon, give it a small proportion of our training time, but then expect to improve in swimming like we improve in cycling and running, which we give massive time.

I'm just making general statements which may or may not apply to you--it's easy to forget that any skill, including swimming, takes X time to get OK at (never mind good).

About swimming and maybe kicking

As a possible tip for Maria and maybe useful or not reminders for all of us ...

(With this caveat--it's impossible to say what needs to be different/worked on/focused on/tweaked and how in someone's specific swim stroke without actually seeing it)

The drills/activities toward the end of the video are GREAT for establishing good body position in the water. You really have to feel/put yourself into it. It takes time. I would do them both before and after swims.

Once you can actually get into the streamline position from balled-up and/or vertical, then try light flutter kicking while keeping your arms stretched forward. Breathe however you need to when you need to, then resume. If it becomes a struggle, resume getting into the streamline position before starting to kick lightly again.

Originally posted by IndoIronYanti

Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by marysia83 Happy Monday! I think I am this [ ] close to figure out my swimming issues (or rather: front crawl issues). Those damn legs. I am trying to do my best to keep them as close to the border of water and air, but they keep going down. I don't bend my knees, I kick from hips, I have my feet like ballerina, I do the "coin" trick, I don't know what else... I tried to swim with that fancy foam between my knees and it was extremely helpful. I could just go on and on.... Once I had to use my own awesome legs - I was praying to be back to the wall... Has anyone experienced this whole leg drag and was able to figure it out? Please tell me it is fixable...! Congrats to all the weekend racers How do you feel today? Mary

I hear ya' Mary. My kick was (is) my biggest issue. I started working with a coach at one point who made me do kick sets with a paddle board and no fins. That'll make you work on the effectiveness of the kick.  Mine was a combination of not working enough from the hip and not kicking hard enough. He told me to act like I was kicking a bug off my foot. I don't know that kicking like that all the time is sustainable for me but my kick did improve... until I gave up swimming altogether

I know Yanti had saved one of the dumbest looking videos another had posted on this (chickens & wacky props), but it does work. The sinking is more balance and core use to fix. Feels really weird & awkward at first but need to learn how to use the core correctly to accomplish this. Legs are to drive rotation and can be used for propulsion at times. Shouldn't be so much for lift.

I had it bookmarked on my old computer but not this new one! Had to use some serious Google Fu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW5nE5FBPsQ

Really, really good ... for anyone.

That's it!

Originally posted by Richardsdrr

Originally posted by Asalzwed

I really have been meaning to post my bio (yep, 32 pages later...) particularly because I am in a strange place with my racing and training. Maybe I can get some feedback.

When I get a minute I am going to post it. I'm sure I will get that minute soon, right? 

I was tempted to ask those that know me to write my bio. One sentence each. Could be interesting

Darren, the Manatee representative in Wales. Cyclist, sometimes runner, infrequent swimmer. Trainer Road/Zwift addict. Ironman and ultra run finisher. Haulage expert. Father of two (Fin and Emmy?).  Don't mention weekends to him.

With my dislocated shoulder, I was allowed to use the trainer at hope pretty quickly.  I'm not sure how it will be with the clavical though. 18 pieces!  yikes! 

Originally posted by marysia83

Originally posted by jmkizer

Mary in Chicagoland, what is the first initial of your last name?

It is G, why? Mary

I updated the roster.  Mary S in Denver and Mary G in Chicago. :-D

Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by Richardsdrr

Originally posted by Asalzwed

I really have been meaning to post my bio (yep, 32 pages later...) particularly because I am in a strange place with my racing and training. Maybe I can get some feedback.

When I get a minute I am going to post it. I'm sure I will get that minute soon, right? 

I was tempted to ask those that know me to write my bio. One sentence each. Could be interesting

Darren, the Manatee representative in Wales. Cyclist, sometimes runner, infrequent swimmer. Trainer Road/Zwift addict. Ironman and ultra run finisher. Haulage expert. Father of two (Fin and Emmy?).  Don't mention weekends to him.

Well said!