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Would a bowlful of Lucky Charms help me sleep, do you think?

I did decide to go for the good drugs and much thankfully so. Headache gone. Still wide awake though. No sedative effect from the drugs. Probably because I'm just so relieved to be out of pain that I want to DO something.

Just regular LC, with the predetermined shmello to carboard ratio??  Need more charms.

Ah man, I so agree. I wish it was just a  big ol box o charms. mmmmm

And I say *you* look like the leprechaun?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Wait? You get to be the white Halle Berry and I get to be an effing leprechaun? 

My ears don't even stick out as far as they used to.



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Agreed, I need to see this on a daily basis. BTW, Salty, some people *may* need more steps than others. 

It is beer o'clock kids, see ya later!

Wait a minute, it's not beer o clock where I am and we are in the same state! No fair starting the weekend before I do

 

One of the guys in the office brought in a bunch of SBux cheesecake brownies in honor of another guy's birthday. Unfortunately no coffee was provided. Now I need to curl up and take a nap on my desk.



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Agreed, I need to see this on a daily basis. BTW, Salty, some people *may* need more steps than others. 

It is beer o'clock kids, see ya later!

Wait a minute, it's not beer o clock where I am and we are in the same state! No fair starting the weekend before I do

 

One of the guys in the office brought in a bunch of SBux cheesecake brownies in honor of another guy's birthday. Unfortunately no coffee was provided. Now I need to curl up and take a nap on my desk.

Speaking of, what do you think of la boulange? Or do you have it yet?

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Okay, now that everyone has ditched out for the weekend, I will spill my current running/racing drama.

The New Mexico site visit is a go, and I have to be there by 12:40 p.m. to meet my team partner. I wouldn't really have to be, but if I did the race, I wouldn't get into Albuquerque until 10:00 p.m. or later, and I don't feel like making him wait around for me or renting a second car to drive the 2.5 - 3 hours into the wilds of New Mexico on my own. (My team partner has lived in NM before, and he is pretty sure we have to travel gravel/dirt roads to get to the site. Goody. Just like home).

So . . . . I am not going to run the half marathon on September 22. Frown I contacted the rd. No refund. Can't transfer to another rec commission race. I told her that was fine and what I expected. It's my stupid mistake. I offered my registration for a "scholarship" if she knew of someone who wanted to run but couldn't afford it. She will hold it for that purpose, but if no one takes it, I'll just pick up my race packet when I get back from NM.

I registered for the 6.5 mile Horsethief Canyon trail run on September 21 and have now set my sight on a possible Thanksgiving half marathon in Lehi, Utah -- where we will be for Thanksgiving this year. The race organizers seem a little sketchy. They have a facebook page, but the link to the race site goes no where. There is no real way to sign up for the race -- not the usual way, anyway. The sign up link goes to a page where you fill in blanks and print off, I guess. I don't know. Like I said, just sketchy. So I am going to plan on it, but not invest any money until October or so, to give them a chance to get their act together.

I'm considering the 15k Coronado Heights Run again -- lots of dirt road and then running up a "hill" and back down. It's actually a pretty tough hill -- I think it measured about a street mile up -- with medium grade -- so practically the Alps around here. It's October 5, and could be a nice training run/test for a November half.

I'm thinking of skipping the One Hill After Another run that I have done for the past two years. It comes right before Thanksgiving, and I definitely felt it on the 10 mile turkey trot I did last year. I guess I'll wait to see if the Utah thing works out. If it doesn't, I could always sign up for the 25k Hill run -- last year it was furiously windy. Lots of dirt/lime stone roads. Up and down and up and down and up and down. Repeat a hundred times.

I'm scheduled for a 9ish mile "long" run this weekend, so I'm going to stick with that, and then maybe step back to 7 or 8 the next week and build more slowly. I was trying to build to a 10-11 mile run before the 22nd half, but since I'm not doing that anymore, I don't feel that urgency.

Thoughts??

Oh, and I ordered a pair of xc racing flats for some of these dirt road runs. (Which end up not really needing trail shoes) I can't wait to get them.

Carry on.



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2013-09-06 3:59 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
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Originally posted by rrrunner
Originally posted by amd723
Originally posted by cdban66

Agreed, I need to see this on a daily basis. BTW, Salty, some people *may* need more steps than others. 

It is beer o'clock kids, see ya later!

Wait a minute, it's not beer o clock where I am and we are in the same state! No fair starting the weekend before I do

 

One of the guys in the office brought in a bunch of SBux cheesecake brownies in honor of another guy's birthday. Unfortunately no coffee was provided. Now I need to curl up and take a nap on my desk.

Speaking of, what do you think of la boulange? Or do you have it yet?

I don't think we have it (yet). We never got the bistro packs so this may be the same Cry

2013-09-06 4:06 PM
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Originally posted by KansasMom

Okay, now that everyone has ditched out for the weekend, I will spill my current running/racing drama.

The New Mexico site visit is a go, and I have to be there by 12:40 p.m. to meet my team partner. I wouldn't really have to be, but if I did the race, I wouldn't get into Albuquerque until 10:00 p.m. or later, and I don't feel like making him wait around for me or renting a second car to drive the 2.5 - 3 hours into the wilds of New Mexico on my own. (My team partner has lived in NM before, and he is pretty sure we have to travel gravel/dirt roads to get to the site. Goody. Just like home).

So . . . . I am not going to run the half marathon on September 22. Frown I contacted the rd. No refund. Can't transfer to another rec commission race. I told her that was fine and what I expected. It's my stupid mistake. I offered my registration for a "scholarship" if she knew of someone who wanted to run but couldn't afford it. She will hold it for that purpose, but if no one takes it, I'll just pick up my race packet when I get back from NM.

I registered for the 6.5 mile Horsethief Canyon trail run on September 21 and have now set my sight on a possible Thanksgiving half marathon in Lehi, Utah -- where we will be for Thanksgiving this year. The race organizers seem a little sketchy. They have a facebook page, but the link to the race site goes no where. There is no real way to sign up for the race -- not the usual way, anyway. The sign up link goes to a page where you fill in blanks and print off, I guess. I don't know. Like I said, just sketchy. So I am going to plan on it, but not invest any money until October or so, to give them a chance to get their act together.

I'm considering the 15k Coronado Heights Run again -- lots of dirt road and then running up a "hill" and back down. It's actually a pretty tough hill -- I think it measured about a street mile up -- with medium grade -- so practically the Alps around here. It's October 5, and could be a nice training run/test for a November half.

I'm thinking of skipping the One Hill After Another run that I have done for the past two years. It comes right before Thanksgiving, and I definitely felt it on the 10 mile turkey trot I did last year. I guess I'll wait to see if the Utah thing works out. If it doesn't, I could always sign up for the 25k Hill run -- last year it was furiously windy. Lots of dirt/lime stone roads. Up and down and up and down and up and down. Repeat a hundred times.

I'm scheduled for a 9ish mile "long" run this weekend, so I'm going to stick with that, and then maybe step back to 7 or 8 the next week and build more slowly. I was trying to build to a 10-11 mile run before the 22nd half, but since I'm not doing that anymore, I don't feel that urgency.

Thoughts??

Oh, and I ordered a pair of xc racing flats for some of these dirt road runs. (Which end up not really needing trail shoes) I can't wait to get them.

Carry on.

Sounds like a thoughtful plan to me. I hear ya on the Lehi HM. I did one last November in Loveland, CO that was similar. I think when these NPO's put on a race they just don't put a lot of thought/effort into the communications with the runners. My Loveland HM turned out to be fine and I enjoyed it.

What kind of shoes did you order?



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Sounds like a thoughtful plan to me. I hear ya on the Lehi HM. I did one last November in Loveland, CO that was similar. I think when these NPO's put on a race they just don't put a lot of thought/effort into the communications with the runners. My Loveland HM turned out to be fine and I enjoyed it.

What kind of shoes did you order?

They aren't purple or pink. Surprised Well, there is a little bit of pink on there . . .

http://att-i.shoebuy.com/pi/sauco/jb/sauco476156_249304_jb.jpg



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My 7th grader had his first xc meet yesterday. He didn't run that fast, but he wasn't last. One comment was priceless.

"I was kicking butt. Seriously, mom. My heels were kicking my butt!!!"

2013-09-06 4:21 PM
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I went to a bike and truck safety fair this morning.

A portion of my commuting route is shared with the Port of Seattle trucking route. Needless to say it is very dangerous and I curse the truck drivers on the daily. As I am sure they curse me.

Anyway, truck drivers were there to educate us and us them. They had ride alongs and also gave us the ability to hop in the seat of one of the semis where they had cones set out to indicate visibility.

Wow. A whole new perspective. Which is what it's all about. I think doing more stuff like this is an amazing way for us all to coexist. Very cool. 




http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wzL0Kyk4m-8&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3...

That video really hits it home, done by dept for London transport. When this video was doing the rounds on tripe talk, all the cyclists said "why can't they put more mirrors in so the driver can see, or why can't they put video screens and cameras in?". Well, I am currently sat in a cab not too dissimilar to the one in the video, and I have 6 mirrors to check each time I negotiate a junction, manoeuvre, etc. Where exactly do they expect to put these extra mirrors? How much time do people think you have available to do a full check of 20 mirrors when moving off? How am I gonna see the effing road with all the mirrors obstructing my view you stupid focus?

Here's an idea, take the message the video is trying to give and notice that trucks have blind spots no matter how many mirrors there are and perhaps it's a good idea to not undertake those trucks.

Rant over.

Good luck racers.
2013-09-06 4:22 PM
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I'm thinking of skipping the One Hill After Another run that I have done for the past two years. It comes right before Thanksgiving, and I definitely felt it on the 10 mile turkey trot I did last year. I guess I'll wait to see if the Utah thing works out. If it doesn't, I could always sign up for the 25k Hill run -- last year it was furiously windy. Lots of dirt/lime stone roads. Up and down and up and down and up and down. Repeat a hundred times.

I'm scheduled for a 9ish mile "long" run this weekend, so I'm going to stick with that, and then maybe step back to 7 or 8 the next week and build more slowly. I was trying to build to a 10-11 mile run before the 22nd half, but since I'm not doing that anymore, I don't feel that urgency.

Thoughts??

Oh, and I ordered a pair of xc racing flats for some of these dirt road runs. (Which end up not really needing trail shoes) I can't wait to get them.

Carry on.

Is there any reason why you want to build more slowly? Or is it just the lack of urgency? 

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My 7th grader had his first xc meet yesterday. He didn't run that fast, but he wasn't last. One comment was priceless.

"I was kicking butt. Seriously, mom. My heels were kicking my butt!!!"




Love it


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Sounds like a thoughtful plan to me. I hear ya on the Lehi HM. I did one last November in Loveland, CO that was similar. I think when these NPO's put on a race they just don't put a lot of thought/effort into the communications with the runners. My Loveland HM turned out to be fine and I enjoyed it.

What kind of shoes did you order?

They aren't purple or pink. Surprised Well, there is a little bit of pink on there . . .

http://att-i.shoebuy.com/pi/sauco/jb/sauco476156_249304_jb.jpg

Oooooooh! very nice!

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My 7th grader had his first xc meet yesterday. He didn't run that fast, but he wasn't last. One comment was priceless.

"I was kicking butt. Seriously, mom. My heels were kicking my butt!!!"

Congrats on his meet. Love the comment!

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Would a bowlful of Lucky Charms help me sleep, do you think?

I did decide to go for the good drugs and much thankfully so. Headache gone. Still wide awake though. No sedative effect from the drugs. Probably because I'm just so relieved to be out of pain that I want to DO something.

Just regular LC, with the predetermined shmello to carboard ratio??  Need more charms.

Ah man, I so agree. I wish it was just a  big ol box o charms. mmmmm

And I say *you* look like the leprechaun?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Wait? You get to be the white Halle Berry and I get to be an effing leprechaun? 

My ears don't even stick out as far as they used to.

  You are gonna get it, do you hear me?  DAMN IT SALTY! I have a shaved head pic for you and everything, but now...

I was laughing because Yanti looks just like the effing leprechaun (however the eff you spell that word).  Look at her expression and "his"?  It's awesome!

You look nothing like a short, little green-clad, pointy-eared elf, except that you're a little short

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Originally posted by KansasMom

My 7th grader had his first xc meet yesterday. He didn't run that fast, but he wasn't last. One comment was priceless.

"I was kicking butt. Seriously, mom. My heels were kicking my butt!!!"

Congrats on his meet. Love the comment!

That is both hilarious and good form, right?
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Holy cow! I'm so far behind  Sorry! 

Mommyhood has eaten up two days.  I just stopped myself to eat a PBJ and nectarine...besides needing energy for swimming tonight, I become a horrible Batch when hungry. Entered workouts as soon as I finished them because I was likely to forget.

I think I'm going to scrap today's trainer session and relax before our long ride tomorrow morning.  We were going on Sundays, but...football season Cool

I'll try to do some catching up if baby girl stays asleep.

 



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Originally posted by KansasMom

I'm thinking of skipping the One Hill After Another run that I have done for the past two years. It comes right before Thanksgiving, and I definitely felt it on the 10 mile turkey trot I did last year. I guess I'll wait to see if the Utah thing works out. If it doesn't, I could always sign up for the 25k Hill run -- last year it was furiously windy. Lots of dirt/lime stone roads. Up and down and up and down and up and down. Repeat a hundred times.

I'm scheduled for a 9ish mile "long" run this weekend, so I'm going to stick with that, and then maybe step back to 7 or 8 the next week and build more slowly. I was trying to build to a 10-11 mile run before the 22nd half, but since I'm not doing that anymore, I don't feel that urgency.

Thoughts??

Oh, and I ordered a pair of xc racing flats for some of these dirt road runs. (Which end up not really needing trail shoes) I can't wait to get them.

Carry on.

Is there any reason why you want to build more slowly? Or is it just the lack of urgency? 

Lack of urgency and to decrease the risk of injury. Remember, I'm old.

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Originally posted by 4agoodlife
Originally posted by Asalzwed
Originally posted by 4agoodlife

So I was on the elliptical this morning and thought I should pose this question to those who use a gym.

Do you always use a treadmill for your run training? If you use another machine, how much/often?

It's obvious that training on the elliptical isn't the same, but how much can I do and have it really be useful? Right now it's usually a 10-15min warm up to help loosen my knee (30-60min total time, so 25-30%). It seems better than walking on treadmill for warming up my joint. Then I do some stretches before getting on the treadmill for jogging. So far my knee is appreciating it, but I don't want to do too much and take away much needed "real" running time. 

 

The very, very best way to become a better runner is to run.

I think you can use it to warm up if that is what works for you, and it sounds like it really does. But to be clear, they are not like for like.

It's a good tool to stay fit, if say, you had an injury or needed some low impact training. 

Definitely. ^^^

I'll adjust my question a bit...

Thinking of muscle use/training, do you think I would be better off using those 10-15 warm up minutes fast walking on the treadmill to loosen my joint ? Or just put it all in a "not running so it doesn't matter" box?

 

Hmmm matter? That's tough. I don't have an answer.

I'm sure it matters, to some degree. But whether it's anything worth even mentioning? I don't know.

hmmm...well, thanks for pondering with/for me

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Originally posted by 4agoodlife
Originally posted by Asalzwed
Originally posted by 4agoodlife

So I was on the elliptical this morning and thought I should pose this question to those who use a gym.

Do you always use a treadmill for your run training? If you use another machine, how much/often?

It's obvious that training on the elliptical isn't the same, but how much can I do and have it really be useful? Right now it's usually a 10-15min warm up to help loosen my knee (30-60min total time, so 25-30%). It seems better than walking on treadmill for warming up my joint. Then I do some stretches before getting on the treadmill for jogging. So far my knee is appreciating it, but I don't want to do too much and take away much needed "real" running time. 

 

The very, very best way to become a better runner is to run.

I think you can use it to warm up if that is what works for you, and it sounds like it really does. But to be clear, they are not like for like.

It's a good tool to stay fit, if say, you had an injury or needed some low impact training. 

Definitely. ^^^

I'll adjust my question a bit...

Thinking of muscle use/training, do you think I would be better off using those 10-15 warm up minutes fast walking on the treadmill to loosen my joint ? Or just put it all in a "not running so it doesn't matter" box?

Hmmm matter? That's tough. I don't have an answer.

I'm sure it matters, to some degree. But whether it's anything worth even mentioning? I don't know.

It is an interesting question. I can think of several reasons why each may be better than the other, but not entirely sure. I'd lean slightly more towards being on the treadmill for the sake of claiming on as they can be hard to get at a gym if it's busier. But before doing that, how have things been progressing? I saw that the knee appreciated it, but is there continued improvement in that? In any way, such as less aching, soreness, or is running improving? Too soon to tell?

I've adjusted my schedule to mostly morning workouts, and more open machines is a perk of doing that

Other parts of my workouts have changed recently, so it's hard to tell what is making my knee feel better: more yoga? elliptical w/u THEN stretching? more consistent running? improved knee strength? more T.I.T.S even? For sure I don't have the post-run soreness I did a few months ago. I CAN rule out the shoes. They haven't changed. lol

To give you an idea of how tight my left knee is- standing quad stretch, can touch R heel to butt... L is about 6" away; R knee can "hyperextend" to floor...L can't; can't sit on my heels while kneeling. Pretty sure this affects my stride. :/

Because I'm not doing a ton of running, I want to make sure that I'm being efficient with the time/distance I do put in. If having 25-30% of "running" time on elliptical is detrimental to building my run base and/or run muscles, then I need to get off of it.  If it's neutral, then I'll be happy to use it.

2013-09-06 7:06 PM
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Originally posted by TriAya


Go Mike!!!
Go Melbo!!!
Go My Sweet Mad Polymath!!!
Go Iceberg!!!
Go KatieFrog!!!
Go NyNy!!!
Go Foxay!!!
Go Randee Newbee Manatee!!!

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Y'all get better now, y'hear? And don't do anything stupid.

^^^this does not apply to me; you can't cure stupid.


I notice Janyne has given up putting you on the disabled list even though you should be the headlining act at present!
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Originally posted by switch
Originally posted by Asalzwed
Originally posted by 4agoodlife
Originally posted by Asalzwed
Originally posted by 4agoodlife

So I was on the elliptical this morning and thought I should pose this question to those who use a gym.

Do you always use a treadmill for your run training? If you use another machine, how much/often?

It's obvious that training on the elliptical isn't the same, but how much can I do and have it really be useful? Right now it's usually a 10-15min warm up to help loosen my knee (30-60min total time, so 25-30%). It seems better than walking on treadmill for warming up my joint. Then I do some stretches before getting on the treadmill for jogging. So far my knee is appreciating it, but I don't want to do too much and take away much needed "real" running time. 

 

The very, very best way to become a better runner is to run.

I think you can use it to warm up if that is what works for you, and it sounds like it really does. But to be clear, they are not like for like.

It's a good tool to stay fit, if say, you had an injury or needed some low impact training. 

Definitely. ^^^

I'll adjust my question a bit...

Thinking of muscle use/training, do you think I would be better off using those 10-15 warm up minutes fast walking on the treadmill to loosen my joint ? Or just put it all in a "not running so it doesn't matter" box?

 

Hmmm matter? That's tough. I don't have an answer.

I'm sure it matters, to some degree. But whether it's anything worth even mentioning? I don't know.

Erin, I just posed the elliptical question in SBR utopia this morning--haha, great minds baby! 

Z2 base?

The no impact thing is kinda appealing.  That and I have one 10 feet from my bed.

Ha! And what did your SBR peeps have to say?

Yes, now that I know my true zones...working in my z2 except for interval day.

No impact is VERY appealing to a gimpy runner like myself. Laughing



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Originally posted by Asalzwed

I went to a bike and truck safety fair this morning.

A portion of my commuting route is shared with the Port of Seattle trucking route. Needless to say it is very dangerous and I curse the truck drivers on the daily. As I am sure they curse me.

Anyway, truck drivers were there to educate us and us them. They had ride alongs and also gave us the ability to hop in the seat of one of the semis where they had cones set out to indicate visibility.

Wow. A whole new perspective. Which is what it's all about. I think doing more stuff like this is an amazing way for us all to coexist. Very cool. 




http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wzL0Kyk4m-8&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3...

That video really hits it home, done by dept for London transport. When this video was doing the rounds on tripe talk, all the cyclists said "why can't they put more mirrors in so the driver can see, or why can't they put video screens and cameras in?". Well, I am currently sat in a cab not too dissimilar to the one in the video, and I have 6 mirrors to check each time I negotiate a junction, manoeuvre, etc. Where exactly do they expect to put these extra mirrors? How much time do people think you have available to do a full check of 20 mirrors when moving off? How am I gonna see the effing road with all the mirrors obstructing my view you stupid focus?

Here's an idea, take the message the video is trying to give and notice that trucks have blind spots no matter how many mirrors there are and perhaps it's a good idea to not undertake those trucks.

Rant over.

Good luck racers.
Good video Darren.

I am originally from country Western Australia where there are many, many triple road trains. These consist of a long haul cab and 3 full length trailers behind them. Legally they can be up to 53.5 meters (175') long and on open roads can legally travel at speeds of 100kph (60 miles). When these trucks are fully loaded it can take them up to 1.5k (almost 1 mile) to stop!

When they need to come through the city they must remove 1 of their trailers, but that means that they are still over 100' long. The guys and girls that drive these trucks have amazing skills and can manoeuvre them through all sorts of obstacles.

However, what amazes me the most is how other road uses are so oblivious to the space that these trucks need to stop and turn corners and will pull out in front of them or up beside them without any consideration. It is only because of the skill and patience of the truck drivers that more people aren't killed.

I dip my hat to you and your fellow drivers around the world. Have a safe day
2013-09-06 9:39 PM
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Racing Manatees!

September 7-8
Mike - Diamondman Challenge Sprint on Saturday
Melanie - Diamondman Challenge Sprint on Saturday
Michael - Elk River Valley Century on Saturday
Jonathan AK - Nashvegas Olympic Tri on Saturday
Kate - Women's triathlon Festival Sprint on Saturday
Janyne - BikeMS (both days)
Tom - Hancock Horizontal Hundred on Sunday
Randee - HMF Women's Triathlon on Sunday

Disabled list: 
Ann-Marie - under the weather
JoGo - tensor fascia strain with hip flexor and IS inflammation
Jen - stress fracture.
Kirsten - shoulder, foot

Core Challenge - 100d x 10m = 1 strong core
http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=492917

Uh Oh, 2 manatees at the same race.  Last time that happened I believe there may have been at least 1 manatee  RWSD (racing while still drunk ) .  

Go Manatees!!!!!

Yeah, we're planning a kegger. In transition!

Good luck to all racing manatees!

2013-09-07 10:32 AM
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15 miles solo.  I wanted to DIE on the last 2.
2013-09-07 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by QueenZipp15 miles solo.  I wanted to DIE on the last 2.
Strong work Judi
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