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2012-04-19 7:01 AM
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jobaxas - 2012-04-18 8:29 PM

Ah I'm having one of those emotional days - don't know where they come from when you suddenly think you can't do any of it!  A bottle of Shiraz will fix me up I'm sure!

Anyway swim squad last night - rocked!  Here's the workout - new drill for us was tennis balls.  If you want to swallow a lot of water I suggest you try swimming freestyle with a tennis ball in each hand!

Warm up set with fins

200m Freestyle (50m breathe left, 50m breathe right)

200m Backstroke

200m - 6 kicks one arm in front, lying on side then full stroke and turn to other side.

200m - 100m front scull, 50m mid scull, 50m hip scull

200m freestyle - 100m tennis balls, 100m free

200m - otter scull without kicking!!!  WTF - took us forever to get to the other end!

Fins off for main set

4 x 250m free (50m tennis balls, 200m free)

Pull buoy set

200m - breathing every 6 (100m breathe left, 100m breathe right)

200m - breathing every 5

200m - 8strokes no breathing, 8 strokes breathe normally.

After this there was another 200m set of sculls with fins but it was late and I cramp if I put my fins back on so didn't bother!

 

Felt like I made a lot of progress this week (except emotionally where i've regressed)  - ah just need a new moon, I know a lot of people struggling with April!

What a workout!!  Very impressive! You ARE a manatee!



2012-04-19 7:05 AM
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kgore - 2012-04-19 12:11 AM

Well, I had an fun new workout tonight! 

It was this:

10 minute warm up on bike raise heart rate to zone 3

transition to run for 1/4 mile at 10k pace

then transition back to the bike for 5 minutes--first 2 minutes easy spin, then sprint pace for other 3

Transition back to run--go 1/2 mile at 5k pace

Repeat last two transitions 3 more times;

Cool down w/easy 10 min spin on the bike.

It wasn't an easy workout, but I enjoyed it--I was also drenched in sweat midway through it! Good times!

Wow, I'll bet your legs were screaming until the end!  Sounds like a very good workout!  NIce job!

2012-04-19 8:26 AM
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Tripopo - 2012-04-19 7:20 AM

 Good S/B/R-ing all, except for you Yanti hope you are feeling better/resting happily with surf piglets fanning you in your hamock with the frozen adult troical beverage, and I agree this group would be an awesome happy hour party.

Sending good weather thoughts for Saturday! 

2012-04-19 8:28 AM
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kgore - 2012-04-19 12:11 AM

Well, I had an fun new workout tonight! 

It was this:

10 minute warm up on bike raise heart rate to zone 3

transition to run for 1/4 mile at 10k pace

then transition back to the bike for 5 minutes--first 2 minutes easy spin, then sprint pace for other 3

Transition back to run--go 1/2 mile at 5k pace

Repeat last two transitions 3 more times;

Cool down w/easy 10 min spin on the bike.

It wasn't an easy workout, but I enjoyed it--I was also drenched in sweat midway through it! Good times!

Fun stuff!

2012-04-19 9:35 AM
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'morning peeps, hope everyone's week has had at least some sparks of sunlight and happiness.

Just in case you didn't see the ad here on BT and are looking:  Xterra's got a deal on wetsuits for BT members ($170 for sleeved, $140 for sleeveless).

2012-04-19 9:40 AM
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Seriously, how can I do a major workout, be dead-tired, and then STILL not be able to stay asleep through the night!?!?!?!? This is getting annoying, I would love to have a full night's sleep every once in a while....

Okay, rant over.

Today's agenda: School, followed by a bike/run brick, followed by preparing dinner for the hubby, followed by a rather large OWS...Apart from that, nothing much. Laughing



2012-04-19 9:43 AM
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reecealan - 2012-04-18 3:15 PM

crews - 2012-04-18 2:12 PM I'm in a bike group (called the Mello Velo's) and we have a blast riding together.  Riding alone just doesn't cut it anymore, but before them, it was all I knew.  Running is different.  I'm so slow, I only have 1 friend that is about the same speed.  Since we trained for the marathon together, it's hard to run without her now.  Others are definately a big part of my motivation to get workouts done.

I can sort of relate to this.  I need to do some LONG rides in the next 3-4 weeks but it's pretty boring going solo.  I rode 50 last Friday, it was a good ride, but it was just me hammering in the wind etc.  One of my buddies just sent me an email asking if I would be down with 70 or 80 miles this weekend.  That's a good motivator.  Tonight I'm doing a group ride, not too fast but it's the whole camaraderie thing with beer/socializing afterwards etc.  To make it a workout I'll stay in the big ring up the hills etc.

Not many runners I know are the same speed as I.  Seems like they are must faster or much slower.  My running buddy is my daughter on her bike

But I do have a competitive spirit and that's what drives me to do the solo rides and run alone, and swim alone for that matter.  I want to be faster than the old "me", then faster than him .....

Solo runs are good because you can think about stuff (just like Forrest Gump thought about Jenny).  When at all possible I try to run on the trails during higher "traffic" times so you don't feel so alone, not to mention the delicious little piglets out there prettying up the place.

"Nuff said I have to get back to work.

Oh and BTW I just bought a new set of wheels, nothing crazy like $1000 Zipps, just some good quality wheels made by Neuvation (M28X Aero).  Picked a pair up for $207 incl. shipping.  Got some good help in the Gear Review section here on BT.

Congrats on the new wheels.

I am also very competitive with myself. And I train alone -- I like the alone time. If I were running or riding with someone, I would feel compelled to talk or chit chat.

Wow, I sound really anti-social and introverted. :-(

2012-04-19 9:50 AM
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cdban66 - 2012-04-18 2:28 AM  She has seen the joy, weight loss and peace of mind that training has brought to me, so she has become more supportive. You may want to try to explain that to him at some point. So be patient. It may take a bit, but he may begin to see the benefits. As they say, Rome wasn't built in a day. Good luck

This is a really great point about relationships and any kind of big change in our lives ... patience.

Probably the biggest convincer is results over time ... as our SO's (what am I talking about, I don't have one, but this has been true of other big changes in my life and SO's/family then) see us healthier, happier, and more serene, this can't help but make exactly the kind of impression we want. And a happy X = a happy Y (whoever Y may be).

2012-04-19 9:58 AM
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KansasMom - 2012-04-18 7:15 PM

Well, I tried to go too far in my Zoots yesterday. I wanted to go about 4.8 miles. I made it just over 3 when I felt like I had a small pebble digging into my Achilles, right above the heal. I stopped to remove the pebble, and it wasn't a pebble. It was a blister starting to form -- actually, I guess it had formed and broken -- I have a small open wound above my heal.

So, I took off the shoes (I entertained the idea of just suffering through the next 1+ miles home, but I figured the other foot would start hurting and I didn't want to make the whole thing worse), and walked, very carefully (it took half an hour!) back home on the sandy/dirt road.

At one point, I thought it would be easier to walk on the grass. OUCH! Horrible mistake. I immediately had goat head thorns in the soles of each foot. I had to stop and pick those out, then pick my way through the road back home.

It was still fun. I just know that I need to give myself a little more time to build up before I try to run too far in them.

It's a beautiful day/evening here. I'm hoping to go out for a short run (in my Sauconys -- with socks) after I get the little guy to bed. He's in the tub right now. What did we do before laptops? I love multitasking. :-)

Thanks for the post.  My new Zoots came in the mail last night and I was tempted to use them on my long run/race this weekend.  I guess I'll be good and stick with the Nikes.

Good luck to everyone in your training/racing this weekend!

2012-04-19 10:09 AM
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Congrats on the new wheels.

I am also very competitive with myself. And I train alone -- I like the alone time. If I were running or riding with someone, I would feel compelled to talk or chit chat.

Wow, I sound really anti-social and introverted. :-(

I feel the same way.  And it's only anti-social and introverted if you are like that all the time, not just training.  Wink

2012-04-19 10:16 AM
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Honestly, I think there is nothing wrong with being anti-social and introverted--within reason--it means you are okay with yourself. I also like training on my own, primarily because if there is a change in plans, it only effects me. That being said, occasionally training with others has its advantages too; I think that doing the primary training by one's self is ideal, while doing OWS, and longer training, or training RIGHT before the race is better with others. 


2012-04-19 10:27 AM
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KansasMom - 2012-04-18 8:15 PM

Well, I tried to go too far in my Zoots yesterday. I wanted to go about 4.8 miles. I made it just over 3 when I felt like I had a small pebble digging into my Achilles, right above the heal. I stopped to remove the pebble, and it wasn't a pebble. It was a blister starting to form -- actually, I guess it had formed and broken -- I have a small open wound above my heal.

So, I took off the shoes (I entertained the idea of just suffering through the next 1+ miles home, but I figured the other foot would start hurting and I didn't want to make the whole thing worse), and walked, very carefully (it took half an hour!) back home on the sandy/dirt road.

At one point, I thought it would be easier to walk on the grass. OUCH! Horrible mistake. I immediately had goat head thorns in the soles of each foot. I had to stop and pick those out, then pick my way through the road back home.

It was still fun. I just know that I need to give myself a little more time to build up before I try to run too far in them.

It's a beautiful day/evening here. I'm hoping to go out for a short run (in my Sauconys -- with socks) after I get the little guy to bed. He's in the tub right now. What did we do before laptops? I love multitasking. :-)

WoW...Changing your name to ToughKansasMom

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2012-04-19 10:30 AM
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kgore - 2012-04-18 11:11 PM

Well, I had an fun new workout tonight! 

It was this:

10 minute warm up on bike raise heart rate to zone 3

transition to run for 1/4 mile at 10k pace

then transition back to the bike for 5 minutes--first 2 minutes easy spin, then sprint pace for other 3

Transition back to run--go 1/2 mile at 5k pace

Repeat last two transitions 3 more times;

Cool down w/easy 10 min spin on the bike.

It wasn't an easy workout, but I enjoyed it--I was also drenched in sweat midway through it! Good times!

This workout looks awesome!  Seems like making so many transitions would make the time fly by while getting an amazing workout and great transition practice.

2012-04-19 10:53 AM
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TriAya - 2012-04-19 10:50 AM

cdban66 - 2012-04-18 2:28 AM  She has seen the joy, weight loss and peace of mind that training has brought to me, so she has become more supportive. You may want to try to explain that to him at some point. So be patient. It may take a bit, but he may begin to see the benefits. As they say, Rome wasn't built in a day. Good luck

This is a really great point about relationships and any kind of big change in our lives ... patience.

Probably the biggest convincer is results over time ... as our SO's (what am I talking about, I don't have one, but this has been true of other big changes in my life and SO's/family then) see us healthier, happier, and more serene, this can't help but make exactly the kind of impression we want. And a happy X = a happy Y (whoever Y may be).


I am the Swami of relationships.


Actually, after 25 years, I have learned how much I have to learn about relationships and how patient my wife really is.
2012-04-19 11:11 AM
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bcraht - 2012-04-19 10:09 AM

Congrats on the new wheels.

I am also very competitive with myself. And I train alone -- I like the alone time. If I were running or riding with someone, I would feel compelled to talk or chit chat.

Wow, I sound really anti-social and introverted. :-(

I feel the same way.  And it's only anti-social and introverted if you are like that all the time, not just training.  Wink

Ahhhh yes, well, you are both correct. When I train with people, I chit chat. A lot. As in AD, A-dizzle, Addy (or Salty or whatever they choose to call me that day) WON'T SHUT UP!

 

2012-04-19 11:44 AM
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Asalzwed - 2012-04-19 11:11 AM
bcraht - 2012-04-19 10:09 AM

Congrats on the new wheels.

I am also very competitive with myself. And I train alone -- I like the alone time. If I were running or riding with someone, I would feel compelled to talk or chit chat.

Wow, I sound really anti-social and introverted. :-(

I feel the same way.  And it's only anti-social and introverted if you are like that all the time, not just training.  Wink

Ahhhh yes, well, you are both correct. When I train with people, I chit chat. A lot. As in AD, A-dizzle, Addy (or Salty or whatever they choose to call me that day) WON'T SHUT UP!

 

I chit chat too!  I run with a group on Saturday's for my long runs and to pass the time we all talk, all the time.  SOme of us more then others, but that is only because some of us have better stories then others   I also do all my swimming with a masters group.  It too is very chatting; including the coach.  I'm sure I could get many more yards in if he'd shut up!  Cycling is done alone, so I have to talk to myself.



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cdban66 - 2012-04-19 11:53 PM
TriAya - 2012-04-19 10:50 AM

cdban66 - 2012-04-18 2:28 AM  She has seen the joy, weight loss and peace of mind that training has brought to me, so she has become more supportive. You may want to try to explain that to him at some point. So be patient. It may take a bit, but he may begin to see the benefits. As they say, Rome wasn't built in a day. Good luck

This is a really great point about relationships and any kind of big change in our lives ... patience.

Probably the biggest convincer is results over time ... as our SO's (what am I talking about, I don't have one, but this has been true of other big changes in my life and SO's/family then) see us healthier, happier, and more serene, this can't help but make exactly the kind of impression we want. And a happy X = a happy Y (whoever Y may be).

I am the Swami of relationships.

Actually, after 25 years, I have learned how much I have to learn about relationships and how patient my wife really is.

You have GOT to love a mentor group where "Swami" has been mentioned twice now. (Well three times with this one I guess)

I am fan-effen-tastic with family and friend relationships (I have to be, with family), and astonishingly horrible at any kind of intimate partner-type relationship. FAIL.

2012-04-19 12:20 PM
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kgore - 2012-04-19 10:40 PM

Seriously, how can I do a major workout, be dead-tired, and then STILL not be able to stay asleep through the night!?!?!?!? This is getting annoying, I would love to have a full night's sleep every once in a while....

Okay, rant over.

Today's agenda: School, followed by a bike/run brick, followed by preparing dinner for the hubby, followed by a rather large OWS...Apart from that, nothing much. Laughing

Over-anything, including overtiredness resulting from overdoing, will affect your sleep quality.

2012-04-19 12:26 PM
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Tripopo - 2012-04-19 7:20 PM

Drive-by Posting-

Been following as much as possible but I'm in a re-cert class this week  for a very important, read mind numbingly boring, certification with a class of 11 pre-academy rookies!  Wow they are way too spunky, I could not have been like that 7 years ago right?

Going for my OWS as soon as I get out at noon today then packet pickup tomorrow, haven't been able to get much/any workouts in since I was studying but might have been for the best as the whole cough/cold is gone.

My relay partner for the HIM is freaking out about the chance of bad weather this weekend and it becoming a 10k 56 mile bike 10k format.  If it does that I'm breaking out the running shoes it looks like! 

Good S/B/R-ing all, except for you Yanti hope you are feeling better/resting happily with surf piglets fanning you in your hamock with the frozen adult troical beverage, and I agree this group would be an awesome happy hour party.

Good to hear from you. Hope the recert didn't make your brain fall out from atrophy , and HAVE A BLAST this weekend! Fingers crossed for the weather.

Not exactly how my day panned out, but it sure was, overall, an entertaining circus.

2012-04-19 12:36 PM
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jobaxas - 2012-04-19 8:29 AM

Ah I'm having one of those emotional days - don't know where they come from when you suddenly think you can't do any of it!  A bottle of Shiraz will fix me up I'm sure!

Anyway swim squad last night - rocked!  Here's the workout - new drill for us was tennis balls.  If you want to swallow a lot of water I suggest you try swimming freestyle with a tennis ball in each hand!

Warm up set with fins

200m Freestyle (50m breathe left, 50m breathe right)

200m Backstroke

200m - 6 kicks one arm in front, lying on side then full stroke and turn to other side.

200m - 100m front scull, 50m mid scull, 50m hip scull

200m freestyle - 100m tennis balls, 100m free

200m - otter scull without kicking!!!  WTF - took us forever to get to the other end!

Fins off for main set

4 x 250m free (50m tennis balls, 200m free)

Pull buoy set

200m - breathing every 6 (100m breathe left, 100m breathe right)

200m - breathing every 5

200m - 8strokes no breathing, 8 strokes breathe normally.

After this there was another 200m set of sculls with fins but it was late and I cramp if I put my fins back on so didn't bother!

 

Felt like I made a lot of progress this week (except emotionally where i've regressed)  - ah just need a new moon, I know a lot of people struggling with April!

You definitely are a swimming fishy, Jo! Keep posting the workouts--all sorts of good ideas.  Never heard of tennis balls, will have to try that just for laughs and maybe a new drill.

I will throw in the caution that some of these drills, particularly ones where you breathe every certain number of strokes, are for swimmers further along in training.

By the way, there's an enormous difference in what "swimmer further along in training" means in Australia vs. the U.S.

2012-04-19 12:43 PM
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TriAya - 2012-04-19 10:20 AM
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Seriously, how can I do a major workout, be dead-tired, and then STILL not be able to stay asleep through the night!?!?!?!? This is getting annoying, I would love to have a full night's sleep every once in a while....

Okay, rant over.

Today's agenda: School, followed by a bike/run brick, followed by preparing dinner for the hubby, followed by a rather large OWS...Apart from that, nothing much. Laughing

Over-anything, including overtiredness resulting from overdoing, will affect your sleep quality.

ick. I don't like that....there's not anything I can really drop right now....and to be honest, I have never been a GOOD sleeper, but I know you're right...>sigh< After May, school will be done (til August), maybe, I can get some relax time in.

Oddly enough, my training time IS relaxing to me--just because my brain can calm down, I guess.



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kgore - 2012-04-19 1:43 PM
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kgore - 2012-04-19 10:40 PM

Seriously, how can I do a major workout, be dead-tired, and then STILL not be able to stay asleep through the night!?!?!?!? This is getting annoying, I would love to have a full night's sleep every once in a while....

Okay, rant over.

Today's agenda: School, followed by a bike/run brick, followed by preparing dinner for the hubby, followed by a rather large OWS...Apart from that, nothing much. Laughing

Over-anything, including overtiredness resulting from overdoing, will affect your sleep quality.

ick. I don't like that....there's not anything I can really drop right now....and to be honest, I have never been a GOOD sleeper, but I know you're right...>sigh< After May, school will be done (til August), maybe, I can get some relax time in.

Oddly enough, my training time IS relaxing to me--just because my brain can calm down, I guess.

To be honest, my first thought was that you were wound up from your workout and that is why you were having a hard time falling asleep.  I went the complete opposite direction as Yanit on that one!  Surprised

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reecealan - 2012-04-19 4:15 AM

Solo runs are good because you can think about stuff (just like Forrest Gump thought about Jenny).  When at all possible I try to run on the trails during higher "traffic" times so you don't feel so alone, not to mention the delicious little piglets out there prettying up the place.

"Nuff said I have to get back to work.

Oh and BTW I just bought a new set of wheels, nothing crazy like $1000 Zipps, just some good quality wheels made by Neuvation (M28X Aero).  Picked a pair up for $207 incl. shipping.  Got some good help in the Gear Review section here on BT.

This is 100% the correct usage of the word "piglet."

Hot wheels = hot T.I.T.S. Enjoy.

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kgore - 2012-04-19 10:40 PM

Seriously, how can I do a major workout, be dead-tired, and then STILL not be able to stay asleep through the night!?!?!?!? This is getting annoying, I would love to have a full night's sleep every once in a while....

Okay, rant over.

Today's agenda: School, followed by a bike/run brick, followed by preparing dinner for the hubby, followed by a rather large OWS...Apart from that, nothing much. Laughing

Over-anything, including overtiredness resulting from overdoing, will affect your sleep quality.

ick. I don't like that....there's not anything I can really drop right now....and to be honest, I have never been a GOOD sleeper, but I know you're right...>sigh< After May, school will be done (til August), maybe, I can get some relax time in.

Oddly enough, my training time IS relaxing to me--just because my brain can calm down, I guess.

To be honest, my first thought was that you were wound up from your workout and that is why you were having a hard time falling asleep.  I went the complete opposite direction as Yanit on that one!  Surprised

Either or both are entirely possible.

Our relationships with our activities call for trial and error, patience and balance too

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I like the structure of those swim plans!

I usually get in and do 100 drill, 100 free, 100 another drill, 100 free etc because the coach I had (for 2 weeks in January) had us do it that way.

Okay... what is sculling?  I've heard it helps you "feel" the water.  Is this something I can learn to do w/o a coach?

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