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2011-08-24 3:19 PM
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I'm fairly certain there is also a time you have to pass through bike special needs (or start the 2nd loop). I saw someone last year as I was heading back onto the "stick" get stopped as she was just trying to start her 2nd loop.

There is also a run cut off to start the 2nd loop but I don't know what that is; wish they would put those in the athlete guide, eh.

 

Here we go again.  Is anyone certain about these mid-course cutoffs?

Well, I emailed the WTC, and they forwarded my question to the race director (according to their email) and told me the mid-point cutoffs.  And I posted what they told me here.  There's been some skepticism about them, but here again is what they sent me about _intermediate_ cutoffs:

 

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Thank you for your patience. I have copied the Race Director's response below.

Bike course at the start of the second loop – 1:00pm approx. mile 55
Run course start of second loop – 9:00 pm approx. mile 13
Run course State Street turn around – 10:30 approx. mile 20

*Anyone not meeting these cutoff will be officially removed from the race. They may take a sag back to the Monona Terrace or they may continue on their own but they are no longer an official participant.

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 Also note:  I don't really know about the last part -- I think if you're cut late on the run they won't let you complete an IM.  Someone from my training group (F4 in Boulder, CO) was also cut off at mile ~95 or so 3 years ago when he got back into Verona at the end of the 2nd loop of the bike.  It looks like that wasn't one of the 'official' cutoff places, but maybe there was no earthly way to make it back to transition in time for him?  Or maybe they had an additional cutoff at that point years ago...



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2011-08-24 4:25 PM
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Does anyone know a good section of the course to do a short ride a day or two prior to the race?
2011-08-24 5:34 PM
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Numbers are up... And the Athlete guide#1911 for me
2011-08-24 5:35 PM
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Anyone who did this in '09, is this the same run course?  It looks like there is no running up Observatory, only down it!! 

PS. Bib #790....last year #2825.  I do believe they are making a shift on where the oldsters are in transition. YIPPEE!



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#1388, my nerves are on edge now!
2011-08-24 6:11 PM
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swim1ets - 2011-08-24 5:39 PM #1388, my nerves are on edge now!

Hey, that's MY number! (from '09). Hope it serves you as well as it did me.



2011-08-24 6:13 PM
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2230 for me.

Now if I can get the bike repaired and body (and mind) mended by check-in....

2011-08-24 6:21 PM
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SSMinnow - 2011-08-24 5:35 PM

Anyone who did this in '09, is this the same run course?  It looks like there is no running up Observatory, only down it!! 

PS. Bib #790....last year #2825.  I do believe they are making a shift on where the oldsters are in transition. YIPPEE!

Looks the same route from '09 and if so, the course does go UP two (?) hills on Observatory. On the way back from the SS turnaround you bypass Observatory via the lakeshore path. If you look at the run course map, right where the little black arrow points to Babcock Drive, when you make that left turn onto Observatory you are at the bottom of the first hill. There is at least one more hill before you reach the top of Bascom Hill and take the windy road down past HB White library to Park street and then SS.

I'm old and I'm 2230...

2011-08-24 6:34 PM
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PrudenceR - 2011-08-24 2:19 PM
IceManScott - 2011-08-24 1:07 PM
lisac957 - 2011-08-24 1:58 PM

I'm fairly certain there is also a time you have to pass through bike special needs (or start the 2nd loop). I saw someone last year as I was heading back onto the "stick" get stopped as she was just trying to start her 2nd loop.

There is also a run cut off to start the 2nd loop but I don't know what that is; wish they would put those in the athlete guide, eh.

 

Here we go again.  Is anyone certain about these mid-course cutoffs?

Well, I emailed the WTC, and they forwarded my question to the race director (according to their email) and told me the mid-point cutoffs.  And I posted what they told me here.  There's been some skepticism about them, but here again is what they sent me about _intermediate_ cutoffs:

 

----------------------------------------

Thank you for your patience. I have copied the Race Director's response below.

Bike course at the start of the second loop – 1:00pm approx. mile 55
Run course start of second loop – 9:00 pm approx. mile 13
Run course State Street turn around – 10:30 approx. mile 20

*Anyone not meeting these cutoff will be officially removed from the race. They may take a sag back to the Monona Terrace or they may continue on their own but they are no longer an official participant.

 -----------------------------------------------------

 Also note:  I don't really know about the last part -- I think if you're cut late on the run they won't let you complete an IM.  Someone from my training group (F4 in Boulder, CO) was also cut off at mile ~95 or so 3 years ago when he got back into Verona at the end of the 2nd loop of the bike.  It looks like that wasn't one of the 'official' cutoff places, but maybe there was no earthly way to make it back to transition in time for him?  Or maybe they had an additional cutoff at that point years ago...

Responding to my own response, but in the Athlete's Guide for this year, it says:

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Bike Cut-Off: The mid-point bike cut-off to start the
second loop is 1:30 p.m. at Whalen Rd and Old PB. The
bike course officially closes at 5:30 p.m.  Any athlete
still on the bike after this time will receive a DNF and
removed from the race.

---

So they gave me MISINFORMATION (around which I changed my whole bike strategy, but anyway...) and the mid-point cutoff is 1:30pm.

2011-08-24 6:48 PM
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2011-08-24 6:52 PM
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2155 and 2156 - wtf???

Amy Jo is 641

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2011-08-24 7:00 PM
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Oh, and because I feel bad for spreading misinformation about the cutoffs (very sorry, but they really did tell me those wrong times), the algorithm for assigning numbers appears to be women youngest-to-oldest, then men youngest-to-oldest.

I assume the number has something to do with where your bike is and where bags are in transition??

2011-08-24 7:03 PM
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Fred Doucette - 2011-08-24 6:54 PM
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Anyone who did this in '09, is this the same run course?  It looks like there is no running up Observatory, only down it!! 

PS. Bib #790....last year #2825.  I do believe they are making a shift on where the oldsters are in transition. YIPPEE!

Looks the same route from '09 and if so, the course does go UP two (?) hills on Observatory. On the way back from the SS turnaround you bypass Observatory via the lakeshore path. If you look at the run course map, right where the little black arrow points to Babcock Drive, when you make that left turn onto Observatory you are at the bottom of the first hill. There is at least one more hill before you reach the top of Bascom Hill and take the windy road down past HB White library to Park street and then SS.

I'm old and I'm 2230...

How many 'big hills do you think there are?

Is this a test? Now I admit that I may be suffering from some minor brain damage from Saturday, but if memory serves, Observatory has two 'big' hills. On the course elevation map these are the "goal posts" straddling the five and 18ish mile marks.

2011-08-24 7:10 PM
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#1455 for me. It seems awfully real now. And I'm glad to hear the intermediate bike cutoff is 1:30pm instead of 1:00. Don't plan to be up against it, but good to know there's a little more breathing room. Agree that if I'm at mile 19 of the run at 10:30pm, they'll be doing me a favor puling me off the course!

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2011-08-24 7:22 PM
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#2361.  I am so ready for the taper...just a few more days



2011-08-24 7:48 PM
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Bib #169. I don't think it is age based as I am in the 40-44 age group.  Might be that I got a low one because I got in under the selective service slots. Last year I was #1340.
2011-08-24 8:04 PM
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#127, and so ready!
2011-08-24 8:22 PM
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#1808 and getting really ready to go now. Couple of weeks to fine tune and recuperate and then ready to roll.
2011-08-24 8:35 PM
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Force - 2011-08-24 7:03 PM
Fred Doucette - 2011-08-24 6:54 PM
Force - 2011-08-24 7:21 PM
SSMinnow - 2011-08-24 5:35 PM

Anyone who did this in '09, is this the same run course?  It looks like there is no running up Observatory, only down it!! 

PS. Bib #790....last year #2825.  I do believe they are making a shift on where the oldsters are in transition. YIPPEE!

Looks the same route from '09 and if so, the course does go UP two (?) hills on Observatory. On the way back from the SS turnaround you bypass Observatory via the lakeshore path. If you look at the run course map, right where the little black arrow points to Babcock Drive, when you make that left turn onto Observatory you are at the bottom of the first hill. There is at least one more hill before you reach the top of Bascom Hill and take the windy road down past HB White library to Park street and then SS.

I'm old and I'm 2230...

How many 'big hills do you think there are?

Is this a test? Now I admit that I may be suffering from some minor brain damage from Saturday, but if memory serves, Observatory has two 'big' hills. On the course elevation map these are the "goal posts" straddling the five and 18ish mile marks.


I have always wanted to run those hills sometime NOT having done a 112 mile ride before.  I am guessing they are not that big



2011-08-24 9:11 PM
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#2496...long run's done. Last big OW swim tomorrow, hopefully a "spirited" 4-5 hr bike this weekend and then try to find way to just enjoy training again for two weeks.


2011-08-24 9:24 PM
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I now have a new goal to finish ahead of my bib number.

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#125, 2nd time around, are the bibs not in order with our ages anymore?
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