ARE YOU KIDDING ME!??! (Page 4)

What a hilarious thread.  Didn't realize we had so many whiners on BT.  If you break the law and happen to come upon a cop that decides to ticket you for it, HTFU.  It's all well and good to come here and say "bummer, i got ticketed, that sucks."  To say "i broke the law, give me a way to get out of it...."...........................

When I cme to a stop sign, I look around to see if any cops are visible, if they are, I stop and unclip.  If not, I go through.  If I get a ticket, I wil certainly know what it is for.  I won't be happy, but there's only one person responsible for it: me

I am not sure how anyone can make a statement like "they didn't use common sense," "they're having a bad day,"  "their wife didn't give them sex...."  Maybe there have been accidents and they're raising awareness and the OP was the victim of that.  Maybe the local residents are sick of roadies in huge packs blasting through stop signs and holding up traffic.   Maybe this, maybe that.  No one has a clue why the ticket was given rather than a warning. 

Bottom line, ticket was given.  Suck it up

One of the great Ceasars (don't know which one) said "It's not important to DO anything about the people's problems, just so long as they feel they have a place to complain and someone to listen to them."

Nothing wrong with coming here and bitchin' about this or that.  And given that this thread is on it's 4th page, obviously it's a subject that hit's close to home.  Personally, I think it's a BS ticket.  

I'm sure the OP is eventualy gonna have to pay the ticket....doesn't mean he needs to like it.

~Mike

No one said he has to like it.  It's the b1tch1ng and moaning about how it's so unfair and the cop should be catching real criminals and how do I get out of it.  that's far different than "man, I am pissed cuz I got a ticket."

Maybe the OP should pull a Rev. Al and Shut The City Down.  After all, rights violations are rights violations.

We ride on the roads. We want to be treated like we belong on the roads and not run over, have stuff thrown at us, not be yelled at, not be mocked. Yet, we should not have to follow the same laws? What? So now not only should we expect to be on the road but we are above the law and should get special treatment. Sweet.

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Been watching this thread for a while now and I have to say to the OP:

If you choose to follow laws only when it is convenient, don't be suprised when the risks your taking yields less than desireable results.

My concern from reading all of this is that it seems to give the impression that there is somehow something wrong with the Police Officer doing his sworn duty and that it is somehow OK for us all (As Cyclists) to break the law when it is inconvenient to follow them.

Under the best of circumstances, we are totally invisible to the motoring public. Running through stop signs and red lights is no different in the eyes of the law than doing it in a car. (But obviously way more dangerous since it is an unseen car that is gonna take you out)

One of my training partners was hit by a car while out training two weeks ago and spent a week in the hospital and is non-weightbearing for the better part of 6 months, She did CdA and Kona last year and was training hard to make it back to Kona this year. Now will be lucky to be walking by that time.

The car that hit her did come to a full and complete stop before proceding through and hitting her broadside. (And so was not issued a citation) He just did not see her and I guess they deemed it an accident.

IMHO tragedies like this are all too common under the best of circumstances but are all that much worse when they could have been avoided.

Let's please all try to do our best to keep from becoming a "Memorial Thread" stuck to the top of the BT Forum...

I tend to agree with that.

I think streets only have minimums if the minimum is posted (like on highways).

Not stopping at a stop sign isn't really a grey area--either you stopped or you didn't. Grey areas are statutes like "too fast for conditions" or "wreckless endangerment". Those things are pretty subjective; failing to stop isn't.

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I've fractured a few laws in my time and it usually take a while before I get to the "well, I guess I had that coming to me" stage.  It's kinda like the 4 stages of grief: anger, disbelief, sadness, acceptance.  Or something to that effect.

OK, new BT rule....no whining!  Accept the cold, hard facts of life.....

Next time I see some whining here, I'm gonna  throw the BS flag. 

Gotta run.  (gotta go buy a bunch of flags!)

Cheers.  :-) 

~Mike

Here in Idaho we have it a little easier than most states we are allowed to role up to a stop sign and if clear or after yielding the right of way we can continue on.  Also for red lights we can continue on after a complete stop.  I can usually beat traffic from light to light in my commute to and from work.  Out in the farm land we don't even have to stop for the stop signs when there are no cross traffic just keep on going.

 Here is a link to the code that allowsit:

http://www3.state.id.us/cgi-bin/newidst?sctid=490070020.K

Wow.  Excellant.  Looks like a very reasonable law.  Congrats to your state legislators!

Here is Alabama, stop signs are more like suggestions....

Sweet! I have been to law abiding apparently.