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2012-09-25 11:39 AM
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How many people in your house and nobody can take 5 minutes to pack a lunch? I hardboil a dozen eggs on Sunday for my kids to use, make sure there is plenty of lunch eat, PB, bread and fruit. My son is a senior and has always packed his lunch through XC, football, band, FFA etc. we have 5 kids, my husband and I both work and train. Not sure why this is so hard for you. Look around, kids are obese, offering healthy food is a good thing.


2012-09-25 11:40 AM
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trinnas - 2012-09-25 12:25 PM
mr2tony - 2012-09-25 12:22 PM
trinnas - 2012-09-25 11:12 AM
mr2tony - 2012-09-25 12:09 PM
Aarondb4 - 2012-09-25 10:58 AM

Solution:

Fat kids and poor kids go in one line, they get subsidized fruits and veggies.

Skinny kids and wealthy kids get a different line. Buffet with all the trimmings.

 

Solves the problem and provides an incentive for the fat kids to get skinny and the poor kids to get wealthy!

 

ETA: Also gives incentive to not get fat so you don't have to switch lines. 

So guess who gets to pay for those choices? So then we have to listen to the same people complain that their taxes are too high.

So you mean like taking care of those who blow out their knees in sports related injuries?

 Here let me direct you to this forum

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/forum-view.asp?fid=21#s

Huh? I think you attached the wrong link because this doesn't have bearing on the current discussion and certainly doesn't have any bearing on what I said. Can you fix the link, please?

Nope the link certainly does have bearing.  We all make choices in our lives and all of those choices have risk associated with them as the link to the injury forum shows.   Just because you choose different risks does not make them not a risk and therefore not "something we all have to pay for".

Ha, my injury is the top thread there right now. I did not choose to crash my bike.

IMO I see nothing wrong with the schools moving towards healthier lunches. The last thing I would want at school is an endless buffet of high carb, low nutritional value food, as it has been in the past.

I also can't see how difficult it is to pack lunch, my kids have been doing it since they were around 8. Sandwich, piece of fruit, and a snack/dessert, takes about 5 minutes at most. They get to choose what they have for lunch and the responsibility of learning how to feed themselves.



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2012-09-25 11:57 AM
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trinnas - 2012-09-25 11:33 AM
Big Appa - 2012-09-25 12:28 PM

Wow this thread has really gone off course to just change the course of discussion on how some people make ironic statements.

Wow this is what the politicians must feel like.

Not ironic at all.  I pay for my kids lunches, my kid is required to go to school therefore I have every right to have some opinion about the school lunch program.  I have every right to express that opinion without being accused of hypocrisy, and I have every right to work to change the system if I feel it is inadequate.  It is those trying to prove irony that are having to make the stretch to do so including forgetting the first point, most of us pay for our kids lunches.

 

A lot of people are acting like (paying for) school lunches are the only option. Which is what I don't get. It's not the only option. If it were... totally different story. But it's not.
 
Your kid is required to go to school but you're certainly not required to choose the school-offered lunch. 

2012-09-25 12:02 PM
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Big Appa - 2012-09-25 10:04 AM
Aarondb4 - 2012-09-25 8:58 AM

Solution:

Fat kids and poor kids go in one line, they get subsidized fruits and veggies.

Skinny kids and wealthy kids get a different line. Buffet with all the trimmings.

 

Solves the problem and provides an incentive for the fat kids to get skinny and the poor kids to get wealthy!

 

ETA: Also gives incentive to not get fat so you don't have to switch lines. 

But what about the fat weathy kids?

I have created the Department of Fat to Wealth Ratio of the DFWR for short, and have appointed a czar of fat to wealth ratio to sort out these complex problems. 

Good news, I added 500 jobs and only 500 billion to the budget. 

2012-09-25 12:06 PM
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mr2tony - 2012-09-25 12:34 PM
trinnas - 2012-09-25 11:25 AM
mr2tony - 2012-09-25 12:22 PM
trinnas - 2012-09-25 11:12 AM
mr2tony - 2012-09-25 12:09 PM
Aarondb4 - 2012-09-25 10:58 AM

Solution:

Fat kids and poor kids go in one line, they get subsidized fruits and veggies.

Skinny kids and wealthy kids get a different line. Buffet with all the trimmings.

 

Solves the problem and provides an incentive for the fat kids to get skinny and the poor kids to get wealthy!

 

ETA: Also gives incentive to not get fat so you don't have to switch lines. 

So guess who gets to pay for those choices? So then we have to listen to the same people complain that their taxes are too high.

So you mean like taking care of those who blow out their knees in sports related injuries?

 Here let me direct you to this forum

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/forum-view.asp?fid=21#s

Huh? I think you attached the wrong link because this doesn't have bearing on the current discussion and certainly doesn't have any bearing on what I said. Can you fix the link, please?

Nope the link certainly does have bearing.  We all make choices in our lives and all of those choices have risk associated with them as the link to the injury forum shows.   Just because you choose different risks does not make them not a risk and therefore not "something we all have to pay for".

You're comparing being injured while playing sports or exercising to eating unhealthy? Well. OK.

Yeah Tony 'cause that's all I'm saying.

2012-09-25 12:08 PM
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lisac957 - 2012-09-25 12:57 PM
trinnas - 2012-09-25 11:33 AM
Big Appa - 2012-09-25 12:28 PM

Wow this thread has really gone off course to just change the course of discussion on how some people make ironic statements.

Wow this is what the politicians must feel like.

Not ironic at all.  I pay for my kids lunches, my kid is required to go to school therefore I have every right to have some opinion about the school lunch program.  I have every right to express that opinion without being accused of hypocrisy, and I have every right to work to change the system if I feel it is inadequate.  It is those trying to prove irony that are having to make the stretch to do so including forgetting the first point, most of us pay for our kids lunches.

 

A lot of people are acting like (paying for) school lunches are the only option. Which is what I don't get. It's not the only option. If it were... totally different story. But it's not.
 
Your kid is required to go to school but you're certainly not required to choose the school-offered lunch. 

To borrow an oft used tactic around here: So I should have no opinion, shut up and get in the kitchen to make my kid a sandwich?



2012-09-25 12:13 PM
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The most entertaining part of this whole thread is that some of the most opinionated individuals are those that don't have children and are not a part of the public school system!

Preach on with all that experience you have!

2012-09-25 12:15 PM
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jasonatkins - 2012-09-25 12:13 PM

The most entertaining part of this whole thread is that some of the most opinionated individuals are those that don't have children and are not a part of the public school system!

Preach on with all that experience you have!

Hey dammit!!  Don't ruin this for the rest of us! Laughing

2012-09-25 12:17 PM
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Left Brain - 2012-09-25 1:15 PM
jasonatkins - 2012-09-25 12:13 PM

The most entertaining part of this whole thread is that some of the most opinionated individuals are those that don't have children and are not a part of the public school system!

Preach on with all that experience you have!

Hey dammit!!  Don't ruin this for the rest of us! Laughing

Weren't you supposed to bring the popcorn?

Air popped with fake butter of course.

 

2012-09-25 12:25 PM
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Has anyone acknowledged the sexual nature of food and eating?  Hopefully, once movies like 9 1/2 Weeks become more popular, people will get a clue.

 

 

2012-09-25 12:33 PM
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To those complaining about the new school lunch:  My objection to your argument is that I feel parents and students are using the controversial hot topic of the new school lunch program to complain, when the reason the kids are hungry NOW is they they don't like and won't eat the healthier food.   At least that's what I read in the article originally posted.  While I agree it's too bad the kids are subjected to this new challenge, it is meant to be what's best for them and if they choose to continue with school lunches they might get used to it and end up eating healthier.

Also, if you insist on going forward with this faulty argument by all means do.  And I will judge you for not be reasonable.

And we do all have a say, because we all pay the taxes that support our school.   While I don't intend to have children, I am not the sort (for instance) that ignores school referendums because it "doesn't apply to me."  I support good schools in my community, among other programs that I may or may not use, and therefore I will have an opinion.



2012-09-25 12:36 PM
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Pack your kids a healthy lunch and stop whining about the government not providing your kids enough junk food.

2012-09-25 12:37 PM
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trinnas - 2012-09-25 12:08 PM
lisac957 - 2012-09-25 12:57 PM
trinnas - 2012-09-25 11:33 AM
Big Appa - 2012-09-25 12:28 PM

Wow this thread has really gone off course to just change the course of discussion on how some people make ironic statements.

Wow this is what the politicians must feel like.

Not ironic at all.  I pay for my kids lunches, my kid is required to go to school therefore I have every right to have some opinion about the school lunch program.  I have every right to express that opinion without being accused of hypocrisy, and I have every right to work to change the system if I feel it is inadequate.  It is those trying to prove irony that are having to make the stretch to do so including forgetting the first point, most of us pay for our kids lunches.

 

A lot of people are acting like (paying for) school lunches are the only option. Which is what I don't get. It's not the only option. If it were... totally different story. But it's not.
 
Your kid is required to go to school but you're certainly not required to choose the school-offered lunch. 

To borrow an oft used tactic around here: So I should have no opinion, shut up and get in the kitchen to make my kid a sandwich?

Opinions are fine, but when there is such an obvious and simple solution I fail to understand why that road isn't taken. Again it's not like school lunches are the only option and outside food it not allowed.

2012-09-25 12:39 PM
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Do the new lunches provide more or fewer calories than the old lunches?

 

 



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BikerGrrrl - 2012-09-25 12:33 PM

To those complaining about the new school lunch:  My objection to your argument is that I feel parents and students are using the controversial hot topic of the new school lunch program to complain, when the reason the kids are hungry NOW is they they don't like and won't eat the healthier food.   At least that's what I read in the article originally posted.  While I agree it's too bad the kids are subjected to this new challenge, it is meant to be what's best for them and if they choose to continue with school lunches they might get used to it and end up eating healthier.

Also, if you insist on going forward with this faulty argument by all means do.  And I will judge you for not be reasonable.

And we do all have a say, because we all pay the taxes that support our school.   While I don't intend to have children, I am not the sort (for instance) that ignores school referendums because it "doesn't apply to me."  I support good schools in my community, among other programs that I may or may not use, and therefore I will have an opinion.

Laughing

I'm ok with you being unreasonable as well....as long as you can understand that my kids eat a fantastic diet and don't have to get used to any new food.  What my kids need is MORE food and MORE calories. MORE choices would help ensure that happened.....I'm OK with paying.  That's all......it's really not that controversial, and I'm sorry for the parents who have to be taught what their children should eat so they don't have fat kids.  I'm also sorry for the pygmies in New Guinea.....are we good now?

2012-09-25 12:43 PM
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lisac957 - 2012-09-25 12:37 PM
trinnas - 2012-09-25 12:08 PM
lisac957 - 2012-09-25 12:57 PM
trinnas - 2012-09-25 11:33 AM
Big Appa - 2012-09-25 12:28 PM

Wow this thread has really gone off course to just change the course of discussion on how some people make ironic statements.

Wow this is what the politicians must feel like.

Not ironic at all.  I pay for my kids lunches, my kid is required to go to school therefore I have every right to have some opinion about the school lunch program.  I have every right to express that opinion without being accused of hypocrisy, and I have every right to work to change the system if I feel it is inadequate.  It is those trying to prove irony that are having to make the stretch to do so including forgetting the first point, most of us pay for our kids lunches.

 

A lot of people are acting like (paying for) school lunches are the only option. Which is what I don't get. It's not the only option. If it were... totally different story. But it's not.
 
Your kid is required to go to school but you're certainly not required to choose the school-offered lunch. 

To borrow an oft used tactic around here: So I should have no opinion, shut up and get in the kitchen to make my kid a sandwich?

Opinions are fine, but when there is such an obvious and simple solution I fail to understand why that road isn't taken. Again it's not like school lunches are the only option and outside food it not allowed.

You're right....but it is ONE option, and they are our children, so we will exercise our right to  get what we'd like to have our children have in the way of school lunches should we choose that option. 

As far as the arguments over what we should have time for or not......save it....I'm going to throw up if I laugh any harder.



2012-09-25 1:10 PM
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Just for kicks here. I'm really trying to think of another situation where there are a multitude of options, yet people complain about ONE like it's the only one.

The only comparison I can come up with is at my work, we have a cafeteria where we can purchase lunch. There are only a few items I like and am able to eat there, and eating those every day would get boring and I'd probably be hungry a lot.

So should I start a loud protest and demand that they offer more of what I can and like to eat? I mean, it's my WORK cafeteria, and I PAY for the food there. Or, would it make much more sense to exercise my problem solving skills and find an acceptable lunch outside of the cafeteria - either bring my own or otherwise. 

Be back in a bit to check answers, I'm off to make picket signs demanding gluten free pasta and dairy free yogurt.

2012-09-25 1:15 PM
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lisac957 - 2012-09-25 11:10 AM

Just for kicks here. I'm really trying to think of another situation where there are a multitude of options, yet people complain about ONE like it's the only one.

The only comparison I can come up with is at my work, we have a cafeteria where we can purchase lunch. There are only a few items I like and am able to eat there, and eating those every day would get boring and I'd probably be hungry a lot.

So should I start a loud protest and demand that they offer more of what I can and like to eat? I mean, it's my WORK cafeteria, and I PAY for the food there. Or, would it make much more sense to exercise my problem solving skills and find an acceptable lunch outside of the cafeteria - either bring my own or otherwise. 

Be back in a bit to check answers, I'm off to make picket signs demanding gluten free pasta and dairy free yogurt.

Slightly different here.  You are an adult and can leave and get something else should you want to.  Options for kids, even high school aged, are slightly more limited. 

I would say they kids in the cafeteria are more of a captive audience.  Similar to a jail. 

2012-09-25 1:16 PM
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lisac957 - 2012-09-25 2:10 PM

Just for kicks here. I'm really trying to think of another situation where there are a multitude of options, yet people complain about ONE like it's the only one.

The only comparison I can come up with is at my work, we have a cafeteria where we can purchase lunch. There are only a few items I like and am able to eat there, and eating those every day would get boring and I'd probably be hungry a lot.

So should I start a loud protest and demand that they offer more of what I can and like to eat? I mean, it's my WORK cafeteria, and I PAY for the food there. Or, would it make much more sense to exercise my problem solving skills and find an acceptable lunch outside of the cafeteria - either bring my own or otherwise. 

Be back in a bit to check answers, I'm off to make picket signs demanding gluten free pasta and dairy free yogurt.

Actually enough of the employees here have gotten together and gotten better and better tasting food choices in our cafeteria.  We have a coffee shop and 2 other sandwich shops in close proximity due to employee pressure for convenient food choices.  Hospital cafeteria food is still not the best tasting ever but there is also a salad bar, a deli bar and a short order grill in the cafeteria itself.    I can also leave work to get something to eat if I so choose.  That is not the case for most school children.

 

We have a hair salon as well.

2012-09-25 1:18 PM
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jasonatkins - 2012-09-25 2:15 PM
lisac957 - 2012-09-25 11:10 AM

Just for kicks here. I'm really trying to think of another situation where there are a multitude of options, yet people complain about ONE like it's the only one.

The only comparison I can come up with is at my work, we have a cafeteria where we can purchase lunch. There are only a few items I like and am able to eat there, and eating those every day would get boring and I'd probably be hungry a lot.

So should I start a loud protest and demand that they offer more of what I can and like to eat? I mean, it's my WORK cafeteria, and I PAY for the food there. Or, would it make much more sense to exercise my problem solving skills and find an acceptable lunch outside of the cafeteria - either bring my own or otherwise. 

Be back in a bit to check answers, I'm off to make picket signs demanding gluten free pasta and dairy free yogurt.

Slightly different here.  You are an adult and can leave and get something else should you want to.  Options for kids, even high school aged, are slightly more limited. 

I would say they kids in the cafeteria are more of a captive audience.  Similar to a jail. 

lisa works in a manufacturing facility just like i do.  sure, the "professionals" are allowed to leave for lunch, but hourly labor force?  they cannot leave the building for their entire shift.  they are absolutely captive to our crappy cafeteria.

so most of them bring their own food in.

2012-09-25 1:18 PM
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. . . gluten free pasta and dairy free yogurt.

That makes no sense.

 



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BikerGrrrl - 2012-09-25 12:33 PM

To those complaining about the new school lunch:  My objection to your argument is that I feel parents and students are using the controversial hot topic of the new school lunch program to complain, when the reason the kids are hungry NOW is they they don't like and won't eat the healthier food.   At least that's what I read in the article originally posted.  While I agree it's too bad the kids are subjected to this new challenge, it is meant to be what's best for them and if they choose to continue with school lunches they might get used to it and end up eating healthier.

Also, if you insist on going forward with this faulty argument by all means do.  And I will judge you for not be reasonable.

And we do all have a say, because we all pay the taxes that support our school.   While I don't intend to have children, I am not the sort (for instance) that ignores school referendums because it "doesn't apply to me."  I support good schools in my community, among other programs that I may or may not use, and therefore I will have an opinion.

ding ding ding, I think we have a winner.  I prefer to choose what's best for my children versus letting the government choose for me.

2012-09-25 1:26 PM
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lisac957 - 2012-09-25 2:10 PM

. . . gluten free pasta and dairy free yogurt.

That makes no sense. 

sounds yummy

2012-09-25 1:28 PM
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lisac957 - 2012-09-25 2:10 PM

. . . gluten free pasta and dairy free yogurt.

That makes no sense.

 

Is that like a meatless meat or a grainless bread?

2012-09-25 1:29 PM
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BikerGrrrl - 2012-09-25 12:33 PM

To those complaining about the new school lunch:  My objection to your argument is that I feel parents and students are using the controversial hot topic of the new school lunch program to complain, when the reason the kids are hungry NOW is they they don't like and won't eat the healthier food.   At least that's what I read in the article originally posted.  While I agree it's too bad the kids are subjected to this new challenge, it is meant to be what's best for them and if they choose to continue with school lunches they might get used to it and end up eating healthier.

Also, if you insist on going forward with this faulty argument by all means do.  And I will judge you for not be reasonable.

And we do all have a say, because we all pay the taxes that support our school.   While I don't intend to have children, I am not the sort (for instance) that ignores school referendums because it "doesn't apply to me."  I support good schools in my community, among other programs that I may or may not use, and therefore I will have an opinion.

ding ding ding, I think we have a winner.  I prefer to choose what's best for my children versus letting the government choose for me.

So we are back to packing our own lunch to choose what is best for our kids. Perfect we agree!

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