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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() scorpio516 - 2012-10-31 3:29 PM chirunner134 - 2012-10-31 12:43 PM scoobysdad - 2012-10-31 2:15 PM powerman - 2012-10-31 2:07 PM Bottom line is it is too close to call and all the polls are close enough to be off by their margin of error. With Obama's horrible record, it should be a landslide against him, but the one thing the polls can say is it is certainly not a landslide. That favors the incumbent. It could still be an ELECTORAL landslide either way. It just takes the polls to be off a few points going the same direction across the swing states. makes me wonder how badly can you lose the popular vote and still win. Would be an interesting experiment, but take a long time. If candidate A squeeks by with 51% popular in just 271 electoral college states, then gets 0% in all the others... Or, if we had a true multi-party system where you could get a plurality in 271 votes, maybe even 34% of the vote, and 0% everywhere else. Although, if we still had state militias, that's a recipe for civil war My brother, a pilot, will head the Militia's Air Force if it happens. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mr2tony - 2012-10-31 3:45 PM scorpio516 - 2012-10-31 3:29 PM My brother, a pilot, will head the Militia's Air Force if it happens. chirunner134 - 2012-10-31 12:43 PM scoobysdad - 2012-10-31 2:15 PM powerman - 2012-10-31 2:07 PM Bottom line is it is too close to call and all the polls are close enough to be off by their margin of error. With Obama's horrible record, it should be a landslide against him, but the one thing the polls can say is it is certainly not a landslide. That favors the incumbent. It could still be an ELECTORAL landslide either way. It just takes the polls to be off a few points going the same direction across the swing states. makes me wonder how badly can you lose the popular vote and still win. Would be an interesting experiment, but take a long time. If candidate A squeeks by with 51% popular in just 271 electoral college states, then gets 0% in all the others... Or, if we had a true multi-party system where you could get a plurality in 271 votes, maybe even 34% of the vote, and 0% everywhere else. Although, if we still had state militias, that's a recipe for civil war We're definitely going to his house if the zombie apocalypse ever happens. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TriRSquared - 2012-10-31 2:37 PM A discussion at lunch brought forth another point why a vote for Johnson is not a waste: If the Libertarians receive over five percent of the popular vote, they will be entitled to matching federal funds (about $90 million) from the Federal Government, passing the threshold under the Federal Election Campaign Act. This is go a long way to help them next election cycle. Sweet, $90M to $1 "B". That will really turn the tables. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() moneyman - 2012-10-31 1:43 PM State: Voting ratio: Winner: Current Polls NC: 49/49: Obama: Romney +5 IN: 49/48: Obama: Tie FL: 51/48: Obama: Tie OH: 51/46: Obama: Obama +3 VA: 52/46: Obama: Romney +3 CO: 53/44: Obama: Romney +1 I would suggest looking a little more closely at the state polls. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/ Nate Silver's 538 blog and Real Clear Politics both have an extensive list of all of the recent state polls. There are numerous different polling organizations (all with slightly different methodologies and biases). For example, you list Romney with 1% lead in CO. There was a poll out yesterday that gave Romney a 1 point lead, but there is one out today that gives Obama a 1 point lead. Of the 5 most recent polls in CO, Obama led in 4 out of 5. You list Romney with a 3% lead in VA, but there are two polls out today. One has Romney with a 5 point lead, but the other has Obama with a 2 point lead. Of the 7 VA polls over the last week, Romney led in 2, Obama led in 3, and 2 were ties. I would put both CO and VA in the toss up category, but if forced to predict a winner, I will lean towards Obama in these two states. The state polls show Obama with a consistent, although narrow, lead in WI, MI, IA, NH, and most critically Ohio. Romney has had a pretty consistent advantage in NC and FL. If you add up the electoral votes, it favors Obama. Pretty much every group that has looked at the possible electoral count on a state by state basis has Obama with the lead. For Romney to win the electoral college, he needs to hold Florida (one of the FL polls out today has Obama with a 1 point lead in FL), and he then has to either win OH (all the polls say Obama has the lead) or he has to sweep all of the other battle ground states. I think Romney has a much better chance of winning the popular vote than he does of winning the electoral college. FWIW, I too am voting for Johnson. If Obama loses CO by 1 vote, and the loss of CO's electoral votes cost him the election, my wife is going to kill me. I too would suggest looking a little more closely at the state polls. The turnout models many of them are using are based on Obama getting as good (or better) turnout than he got in 2008 and even with that he's barely tied or behind. My guess is that there's zero chance he'll even come close to the turnout numbers he got in 2008 so the polls are fundamentally flawed. The numbers coming back from early voting seem to confirm my guess. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() chirunner134 - 2012-10-31 2:43 PM scoobysdad - 2012-10-31 2:15 PM powerman - 2012-10-31 2:07 PM Bottom line is it is too close to call and all the polls are close enough to be off by their margin of error. With Obama's horrible record, it should be a landslide against him, but the one thing the polls can say is it is certainly not a landslide. That favors the incumbent. It could still be an ELECTORAL landslide either way. It just takes the polls to be off a few points going the same direction across the swing states. makes me wonder how badly can you lose the popular vote and still win. I have seen a couple discussions on this topic and the consensus was that it statistically had to be within 1 or 2 percentage points in order to win the popular and lose the electoral college. Bush 47.9% Gore 48.4% Here's an article that talks about it in quite a bit of detail. It's from a right wing website, but they lay out the math pretty well. A Wide Electoral/Popular Vote Split Won’t Happen
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![]() | ![]() Anyone following the lovefest between Pres O and Chris Christie? Those two should get a room. Is it a) he thinks that by praising the President he will have a better chance in his next election for Gov b) he is trying to make sure he gets the support he needs by kissing up to the President or c) Obama has done such a bangup job in the first 30 hours that he can't help but praise a man he has questioned for the last year. I think it's B. he knows that no matter how the election goes down, he has 3 months to deal with this administration and he needs to take care of his state. This administration is going to have as much impact on recovery as the next or more. Either way, this is helping Obama significantly, helping Christie significantly, and hurting Romney significantly. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2012-10-31 5:06 PM Anyone following the lovefest between Pres O and Chris Christie? Those two should get a room. Is it a) he thinks that by praising the President he will have a better chance in his next election for Gov b) he is trying to make sure he gets the support he needs by kissing up to the President or c) Obama has done such a bangup job in the first 30 hours that he can't help but praise a man he has questioned for the last year. I think it's B. he knows that no matter how the election goes down, he has 3 months to deal with this administration and he needs to take care of his state. This administration is going to have as much impact on recovery as the next or more. Either way, this is helping Obama significantly, helping Christie significantly, and hurting Romney significantly. It's been interesting, that's for sure. I was listening to the radio earlier and they were talking about he's doing it to keep Obama off the campaign trail. yeah right. lol Tinfoil hat thoughts make me think it's some kind of a setup for something. I don't know what, but it almost seemed like the love was too forced. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tuwood - 2012-10-31 6:18 PM GomesBolt - 2012-10-31 5:06 PM Anyone following the lovefest between Pres O and Chris Christie? Those two should get a room. Is it a) he thinks that by praising the President he will have a better chance in his next election for Gov b) he is trying to make sure he gets the support he needs by kissing up to the President or c) Obama has done such a bangup job in the first 30 hours that he can't help but praise a man he has questioned for the last year. I think it's B. he knows that no matter how the election goes down, he has 3 months to deal with this administration and he needs to take care of his state. This administration is going to have as much impact on recovery as the next or more. Either way, this is helping Obama significantly, helping Christie significantly, and hurting Romney significantly. It's been interesting, that's for sure. I was listening to the radio earlier and they were talking about he's doing it to keep Obama off the campaign trail. yeah right. lol Tinfoil hat thoughts make me think it's some kind of a setup for something. I don't know what, but it almost seemed like the love was too forced. I follow NJ pretty closely since I used to live there and my son still does. Christie has always had an independent streak, a bad temper, and a big mouth. For all we know he is annoyed at the Party for something having to do with the VP position, cabinet positions, or the full moon. Maybe he hates Ryan for being fit while he's a butterball. It is fascinating, though. My secret hope is that they lose the election and the party implodes, kicks out the far right, and goes back to the way they were when *I* was a Republican. Being a Democrat is giving me hives. |
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![]() | ![]() Democrats didn't used to be so far left either Brian. Both parties have raced to the fringe. Romney is probably one of the most moderate R's in the national spotlight. I agree that it looks forced which is why I don't think this is 100% pure or just CC speaking his mind. Don't get me wrong, if its my option b), I fully support what he's doing to take care of his people, but the cynical side says there's something up... |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2012-10-31 6:55 PM Democrats didn't used to be so far left either Brian. Both parties have raced to the fringe. Romney is probably one of the most moderate R's in the national spotlight. I agree that it looks forced which is why I don't think this is 100% pure or just CC speaking his mind. Don't get me wrong, if its my option b), I fully support what he's doing to take care of his people, but the cynical side says there's something up... I agree on both points. Right now there is plenty in both party's platforms that nauseate me. But I had a damn good 4 years of business so there ya go, that's the deciding factor. I cannot see Christie jumping parties, but unless there is a double-secret plan in place, the part heads have got to be p*ssed at him. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-10-31 5:11 PM GomesBolt - 2012-10-31 6:55 PM Democrats didn't used to be so far left either Brian. Both parties have raced to the fringe. Romney is probably one of the most moderate R's in the national spotlight. I agree that it looks forced which is why I don't think this is 100% pure or just CC speaking his mind. Don't get me wrong, if its my option b), I fully support what he's doing to take care of his people, but the cynical side says there's something up... I agree on both points. Right now there is plenty in both party's platforms that nauseate me. But I had a damn good 4 years of business so there ya go, that's the deciding factor. I cannot see Christie jumping parties, but unless there is a double-secret plan in place, the part heads have got to be p*ssed at him. it's only a head scratcher based on the ridiculous political climate we have these days. It should not cause any alarm for either party to say the other is doing their job. However, with both parties going so far to the edge and playing everything by party lines all the way, it seems odd. how sad is that? And I also do not understand how it continues to get divided further apart at a time when things should be getting closer. From 911 to two wars to an economic melt down, you would think both parties would be under significant pressure to get their act together. Yet each election cycle the divide get's wider and both bases get more radical. Just look at Obama and Romney... in 08 Obama only did the stimulus to get us going, but he was going to be budget neutral and balance the budget Bush left him. And Romney, same old defense spending conservative. But they are not campaigning on keeping the "status quo"... they are campaigning on MORE of the status quo. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() powerman - 2012-10-31 6:28 PM BrianRunsPhilly - 2012-10-31 5:11 PM GomesBolt - 2012-10-31 6:55 PM Democrats didn't used to be so far left either Brian. Both parties have raced to the fringe. Romney is probably one of the most moderate R's in the national spotlight. I agree that it looks forced which is why I don't think this is 100% pure or just CC speaking his mind. Don't get me wrong, if its my option b), I fully support what he's doing to take care of his people, but the cynical side says there's something up... I agree on both points. Right now there is plenty in both party's platforms that nauseate me. But I had a damn good 4 years of business so there ya go, that's the deciding factor. I cannot see Christie jumping parties, but unless there is a double-secret plan in place, the part heads have got to be p*ssed at him. it's only a head scratcher based on the ridiculous political climate we have these days. It should not cause any alarm for either party to say the other is doing their job. However, with both parties going so far to the edge and playing everything by party lines all the way, it seems odd. how sad is that? I had the same thought. My head immediately went to "why is he doing this? What's his play?" And then I thought, "what does that say about how screwed up our political process is? A Republican governor makes what sounds like a sincere gesture of gratitude to a democratic president for his help during a natural disaster, and it's impossible for me to just take it at face value? You're right--it is sad. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jmk-brooklyn - 2012-10-31 5:34 PM powerman - 2012-10-31 6:28 PM I had the same thought. My head immediately went to "why is he doing this? What's his play?" And then I thought, "what does that say about how screwed up our political process is? A Republican governor makes what sounds like a sincere gesture of gratitude to a democratic president for his help during a natural disaster, and it's impossible for me to just take it at face value? You're right--it is sad. it's only a head scratcher based on the ridiculous political climate we have these days. It should not cause any alarm for either party to say the other is doing their job. However, with both parties going so far to the edge and playing everything by party lines all the way, it seems odd. how sad is that? Spot on. It didn't always used to be this way and I still hold out hope that the pendulum will swing and we'll get to a time when moderates are in power again. Both of my parents were in the state legislature long ago and they talk fondly of how they could intensely argue policy with the members of the other party, but then go have dinner with those very same people. They knew their families. They were colleagues and friends and they respected each other. Because of that, they could find a way to make an agreement they could both live with. That's what public service through politics used to be and should be, instead of this crap today where even groups within the same party are seen as the enemy and it's frowned upon to associate with them or say a kind word. As a guy who is on the left of most issues, I've usually found Christie to be refreshing. Maybe it's different for people who live there and see him all the time, but my impression from afar has been that he says what he really thinks most of the time. That's why him complimenting Obama didn't surprise me at all. Likewise, I wouldn't have been surprised if he had hammered Obama if he thought he was screwing up on the storm response. I don't buy the conspiracy theories about 2016 or anything else. I think that's an exhausted guy feeling raw emotions who is doing the best he can for his state and he's calling it like he sees it with the BS filter set to 'Off.' |
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![]() citaltfort - 2012-11-01 12:05 AM jmk-brooklyn - 2012-10-31 5:34 PM powerman - 2012-10-31 6:28 PM I had the same thought. My head immediately went to "why is he doing this? What's his play?" And then I thought, "what does that say about how screwed up our political process is? A Republican governor makes what sounds like a sincere gesture of gratitude to a democratic president for his help during a natural disaster, and it's impossible for me to just take it at face value? You're right--it is sad. it's only a head scratcher based on the ridiculous political climate we have these days. It should not cause any alarm for either party to say the other is doing their job. However, with both parties going so far to the edge and playing everything by party lines all the way, it seems odd. how sad is that? Spot on. It didn't always used to be this way and I still hold out hope that the pendulum will swing and we'll get to a time when moderates are in power again. Both of my parents were in the state legislature long ago and they talk fondly of how they could intensely argue policy with the members of the other party, but then go have dinner with those very same people. They knew their families. They were colleagues and friends and they respected each other. Because of that, they could find a way to make an agreement they could both live with. That's what public service through politics used to be and should be, instead of this crap today where even groups within the same party are seen as the enemy and it's frowned upon to associate with them or say a kind word. As a guy who is on the left of most issues, I've usually found Christie to be refreshing. Maybe it's different for people who live there and see him all the time, but my impression from afar has been that he says what he really thinks most of the time. That's why him complimenting Obama didn't surprise me at all. Likewise, I wouldn't have been surprised if he had hammered Obama if he thought he was screwing up on the storm response. I don't buy the conspiracy theories about 2016 or anything else. I think that's an exhausted guy feeling raw emotions who is doing the best he can for his state and he's calling it like he sees it with the BS filter set to 'Off.' We were talking about this earlier today and we both came to the conclusion that Christie thinks Romney will lose the election and this is one of many actions he is or will be taking to put himself as a frontrunner for the Republican Nomination in 2016, let the campaigning begin!!! |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mrbbrad - 2012-10-31 10:36 AM TriRSquared - 2012-10-31 10:30 AM japarker24 - 2012-10-31 10:24 AM Anyone who votes for someone besides Obama or Romney is wasting their vote. That's OK, I did the same thing when I voted for Perot in 1992 (the first time I was able to vote for President). IMO it's a waste of a vote to continue to chose the lesser of two evils and end up with the same crap in DC year after year. It's a waste to vote for someone with whom you have major differences of opinion (both of them) However, I made sure that my vote was offset by another as to not "steal" votes from one candidate. If we got everyone to do that we could all meet in the middle and have Johnson elected. In a perfect world... At some point that "wasted" vote will be the tipping point and the two party apple cart will be upset. Can't happen soon enough!!!!!! The two parties count on people thinking that voting for someone that isn't a member of the big two is a wasted vote. When this falsehood disappears, so to will the power of the two political parties. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() crusevegas - 2012-11-01 12:29 PM citaltfort - 2012-11-01 12:05 AM jmk-brooklyn - 2012-10-31 5:34 PM powerman - 2012-10-31 6:28 PM I had the same thought. My head immediately went to "why is he doing this? What's his play?" And then I thought, "what does that say about how screwed up our political process is? A Republican governor makes what sounds like a sincere gesture of gratitude to a democratic president for his help during a natural disaster, and it's impossible for me to just take it at face value? You're right--it is sad. it's only a head scratcher based on the ridiculous political climate we have these days. It should not cause any alarm for either party to say the other is doing their job. However, with both parties going so far to the edge and playing everything by party lines all the way, it seems odd. how sad is that? Spot on. It didn't always used to be this way and I still hold out hope that the pendulum will swing and we'll get to a time when moderates are in power again. Both of my parents were in the state legislature long ago and they talk fondly of how they could intensely argue policy with the members of the other party, but then go have dinner with those very same people. They knew their families. They were colleagues and friends and they respected each other. Because of that, they could find a way to make an agreement they could both live with. That's what public service through politics used to be and should be, instead of this crap today where even groups within the same party are seen as the enemy and it's frowned upon to associate with them or say a kind word. As a guy who is on the left of most issues, I've usually found Christie to be refreshing. Maybe it's different for people who live there and see him all the time, but my impression from afar has been that he says what he really thinks most of the time. That's why him complimenting Obama didn't surprise me at all. Likewise, I wouldn't have been surprised if he had hammered Obama if he thought he was screwing up on the storm response. I don't buy the conspiracy theories about 2016 or anything else. I think that's an exhausted guy feeling raw emotions who is doing the best he can for his state and he's calling it like he sees it with the BS filter set to 'Off.' We were talking about this earlier today and we both came to the conclusion that Christie thinks Romney will lose the election and this is one of many actions he is or will be taking to put himself as a frontrunner for the Republican Nomination in 2016, let the campaigning begin!!! How would openly praising the much-despised Democratic president less than a week from the election ingratiate him to the GOP leadership and make him a front runner for anything? Wouldn't that be an example of biting the hand that feeds you? |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jmk-brooklyn - 2012-11-01 3:44 PM crusevegas - 2012-11-01 12:29 PM How would openly praising the much-despised Democratic president less than a week from the election ingratiate him to the GOP leadership and make him a front runner for anything? Wouldn't that be an example of biting the hand that feeds you? citaltfort - 2012-11-01 12:05 AM jmk-brooklyn - 2012-10-31 5:34 PM powerman - 2012-10-31 6:28 PM I had the same thought. My head immediately went to "why is he doing this? What's his play?" And then I thought, "what does that say about how screwed up our political process is? A Republican governor makes what sounds like a sincere gesture of gratitude to a democratic president for his help during a natural disaster, and it's impossible for me to just take it at face value? You're right--it is sad. it's only a head scratcher based on the ridiculous political climate we have these days. It should not cause any alarm for either party to say the other is doing their job. However, with both parties going so far to the edge and playing everything by party lines all the way, it seems odd. how sad is that? Spot on. It didn't always used to be this way and I still hold out hope that the pendulum will swing and we'll get to a time when moderates are in power again. Both of my parents were in the state legislature long ago and they talk fondly of how they could intensely argue policy with the members of the other party, but then go have dinner with those very same people. They knew their families. They were colleagues and friends and they respected each other. Because of that, they could find a way to make an agreement they could both live with. That's what public service through politics used to be and should be, instead of this crap today where even groups within the same party are seen as the enemy and it's frowned upon to associate with them or say a kind word. As a guy who is on the left of most issues, I've usually found Christie to be refreshing. Maybe it's different for people who live there and see him all the time, but my impression from afar has been that he says what he really thinks most of the time. That's why him complimenting Obama didn't surprise me at all. Likewise, I wouldn't have been surprised if he had hammered Obama if he thought he was screwing up on the storm response. I don't buy the conspiracy theories about 2016 or anything else. I think that's an exhausted guy feeling raw emotions who is doing the best he can for his state and he's calling it like he sees it with the BS filter set to 'Off.' We were talking about this earlier today and we both came to the conclusion that Christie thinks Romney will lose the election and this is one of many actions he is or will be taking to put himself as a frontrunner for the Republican Nomination in 2016, let the campaigning begin!!! Not if he thinks Obama is going to win and he wants to be on the winner's side in 2016. |
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![]() | ![]() Aarondb4 - 2012-11-01 5:47 PM jmk-brooklyn - 2012-11-01 3:44 PM How would openly praising the much-despised Democratic president less than a week from the election ingratiate him to the GOP leadership and make him a front runner for anything? Wouldn't that be an example of biting the hand that feeds you? Not if he thinks Obama is going to win and he wants to be on the winner's side in 2016. Snot about 2016 for Christie (he'd never win the GOP nom because he's pro choice) it could be about 2013. Gov has to get reelected. Romney should make him head of FEMA... HAHAHAHA
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 3:54 PM Aarondb4 - 2012-11-01 5:47 PM jmk-brooklyn - 2012-11-01 3:44 PM How would openly praising the much-despised Democratic president less than a week from the election ingratiate him to the GOP leadership and make him a front runner for anything? Wouldn't that be an example of biting the hand that feeds you? Not if he thinks Obama is going to win and he wants to be on the winner's side in 2016. Snot about 2016 for Christie (he'd never win the GOP nom because he's pro choice) it could be about 2013. Gov has to get reelected. Romney should make him head of FEMA... HAHAHAHA
I actually like Christie's straight talk. I don't live in NJ of course, but I could see throwing myself behind him. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() JoshR - 2012-11-01 6:06 PM GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 3:54 PM Aarondb4 - 2012-11-01 5:47 PM jmk-brooklyn - 2012-11-01 3:44 PM How would openly praising the much-despised Democratic president less than a week from the election ingratiate him to the GOP leadership and make him a front runner for anything? Wouldn't that be an example of biting the hand that feeds you? Not if he thinks Obama is going to win and he wants to be on the winner's side in 2016. Snot about 2016 for Christie (he'd never win the GOP nom because he's pro choice) it could be about 2013. Gov has to get reelected. Romney should make him head of FEMA... HAHAHAHA
I actually like Christie's straight talk. I don't live in NJ of course, but I could see throwing myself behind him. Just don't throw yourself under him...that could hurt. |
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![]() | ![]() ChineseDemocracy - 2012-11-01 6:21 PM JoshR - 2012-11-01 6:06 PM GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 3:54 PM Aarondb4 - 2012-11-01 5:47 PM jmk-brooklyn - 2012-11-01 3:44 PM How would openly praising the much-despised Democratic president less than a week from the election ingratiate him to the GOP leadership and make him a front runner for anything? Wouldn't that be an example of biting the hand that feeds you? Not if he thinks Obama is going to win and he wants to be on the winner's side in 2016. Snot about 2016 for Christie (he'd never win the GOP nom because he's pro choice) it could be about 2013. Gov has to get reelected. Romney should make him head of FEMA... HAHAHAHA
I actually like Christie's straight talk. I don't live in NJ of course, but I could see throwing myself behind him. Just don't throw yourself under him...that could hurt. And another reason he won't be Prez. I just don't see him getting nominated until he fits in a bullet-proof vest... |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 6:23 PM ChineseDemocracy - 2012-11-01 6:21 PM JoshR - 2012-11-01 6:06 PM GomesBolt - 2012-11-01 3:54 PM Aarondb4 - 2012-11-01 5:47 PM jmk-brooklyn - 2012-11-01 3:44 PM How would openly praising the much-despised Democratic president less than a week from the election ingratiate him to the GOP leadership and make him a front runner for anything? Wouldn't that be an example of biting the hand that feeds you? Not if he thinks Obama is going to win and he wants to be on the winner's side in 2016. Snot about 2016 for Christie (he'd never win the GOP nom because he's pro choice) it could be about 2013. Gov has to get reelected. Romney should make him head of FEMA... HAHAHAHA
I actually like Christie's straight talk. I don't live in NJ of course, but I could see throwing myself behind him. Just don't throw yourself under him...that could hurt. And another reason he won't be Prez. I just don't see him getting nominated until he fits in a bullet-proof vest... Christie gets major kudos from me for checking politics at the door and doing what needed to be done for his state. Imagine that, federal assistance doing good.
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but I think this is a pretty good idea. Military trucks will be used as polling places where electricity still has not been restored. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I think Romney wins the popular vote but loses the election 281-257. |
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