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2008-01-31 8:22 AM
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PS. I just checked your logs, and could not see anything. Have you not been logging. FYI, it's never too late to get started, and just go for it. This sport is about finishing.


2008-01-31 8:39 AM
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Suprisingly i have been averaging around 9-10 hours a week. It's really suprising because i live in oklahoma where it's been sub freezing and windy for the past 3 months.
2008-01-31 11:25 AM
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TheWookie - 2008-01-31 5:38 AM How is everyone's training going? What do your mileage weeks look like? I feel totally unprepared but I am still confident I will enjoy the race.

Training is going great for me. I am in my 5th week of my plan and have a tuneup race (Surf City Half Marathon) this weekend. Been logging about 15 hours per week of training. Run volume is down from Winter Marathon Season but that's OK because I am getting in some great bike volume with some good intensity

If that seems a bit high for HIM training, it probably is. IMCal 70.3 is really just part of the buildup to IMCdA in June. (Training volume is gonna get really sick after IMCal)

I am still another 2 weeks from being able to get in the pool though. The ortho has a followup imaging session to confirm that the shoulder repair has healed before giving me the OK to start training. I am doing some weight bearing exercises with the PT though so I should be ready to start putting in some volume straight away.  (I am not worried about it)

Really getting amped about the race

2008-01-31 12:46 PM
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Training volume is gonna get really sick after IMCal

Anyone that's been to Tim's logs knows how "sick" this statement really is.  The man is a machine

2008-01-31 4:22 PM
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2008-01-31 6:47 PM
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The reality of this one is beginning to sink in. Should be pretty interesting.

On the plus side:

Barring any unforeseen disasters, I should manage to show up for this one healthy. Last year, I was still very gimpy from the LA Marathon training cycle, not to mention pretty dejected about how that one eventually went down. Also, having completed the course last year, I have a good idea about what to expect and how to best marshall my resources.

On the not-so-plus side:

Training through the winter in upstate NY has proven to be more challenging than I expected. Was all set to go (or so I thought) with the purchase of an indoor bike trainer, but I'm only just starting to build up my indoor ride time this week after struggling with unprecedented and thoroughly unpleasant saddle issues (i.e., numb junk) for a month or so.

Also, I've not logged all of the run miles imagined for myself when I started planning for the race last November. The treadmill, though better than the alternative right now, gets to be something of a drag in months two and three. I'll be under-trained for sure (which is not altogether unusual for me), but also behind schedule (which sorta is).

Finally, I am traveling cross-country for this one on a very weird and complex itinerary which makes bike transport impractical. Instead of bringing my own rig, I'm renting a demo ride form the peeps at Nytro. Nice bike for sure, but also one I've never ridden and one that obviously has not been set up for me. I'll have precisely one afternoon (Friday) to get those details sorted out. Should be interesting to say the least.

The big picture:

When all is said and done, I'm sure I'll be jazzed up for this one on race day. Probably doesn't make sense to think in terms of PR, but you never know. If I can be a little smarter on the run course, and if the rental proves to be a good match for me, who knows? On the other hand, I'd be happy to simply finish without keeling over or injuring myself.

I'm looking forward to seeing some familiar faces out on the course. If I'm splayed across the course with salt stained gear and looking ragged, you can pretend you don't know me. Otherwise, give a little shout out, yo!


2008-01-31 7:10 PM
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TheWookie - 2008-01-31 5:38 AM How is everyone's training going? What do your mileage weeks look like? I feel totally unprepared but I am still confident I will enjoy the race.

My training has derailed these last few weeks thanks to a calf tear a few weeks ago and a bike wipeout (my knees took the brunt of it) last week.  This race is also a tune up race for me for an IM (IM Lanzarote, which really scares me).  I'm also doing IM Cal with two buddies (one is poweredbyfear here on BT) who are doing this as their first half.  Should be a good day.

Tim is a training monster, plus he's half fish so I'm sure he'll be plenty ready for the swim (and the bike, and the run!).

Hope to see you all out there!

2008-01-31 7:31 PM
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Ok...Ill just go ahead and quit whining and worrying about running at 5 am in 45 degrees....i figure i have a month and a half to bump up my run and bike mileage.

On Monday I am going to ride from my house to the O-side transition and back..about 70 miles. Should be a good way to get my head together and refocused. I started doing masters swim again but had to bail out of the surf city 1/2 this weekend becasue it is my birthday and I have all sorts of friends in town...so if you look at my training log on Tuesday youll probably see a little running and biking mixed with a lot of beer drinking..

I dont know what the outcome will be but i can guarantee a PR (as long as I finish).
2008-02-04 3:00 PM
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Has anyone had any experience with renting a bike for a race? I'm thinking about renting one for IMCali 70.3 in march. Does anyone live around oceanside and have the name of a bike shop to rent from?
2008-02-04 3:23 PM
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ballyard7 - 2008-02-04 4:00 PM

Has anyone had any experience with renting a bike for a race? I'm thinking about renting one for IMCali 70.3 in march. Does anyone live around oceanside and have the name of a bike shop to rent from?


I'm renting for the first time through the Nytro shop in San Diego. No idea yet whether I'll regret it, but they did have Cervelo rentals available when I called last November.

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2008-02-04 3:42 PM
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Xan - 2008-02-04 3:23 PM

ballyard7 - 2008-02-04 4:00 PM

Has anyone had any experience with renting a bike for a race? I'm thinking about renting one for IMCali 70.3 in march. Does anyone live around oceanside and have the name of a bike shop to rent from?


I'm renting for the first time through the Nytro shop in San Diego. No idea yet whether I'll regret it, but they did have Cervelo rentals available when I called last November.

800-697-8007


Are you worried at all about the fit or how you will feel on the bike? That is my only concern. Also do you normally ride on a tri bike or a road bike?


2008-02-04 6:21 PM
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ballyard7 - 2008-02-04 4:42 PM

Are you worried at all about the fit or how you will feel on the bike? That is my only concern. Also do you normally ride on a tri bike or a road bike?


Yeah. Big time. The Nytro shop has promised a 15-20 minute fit on pick-up. That at least gets me started and avoids the most obvious problems.

Just to be sure I am incomplete violation of the "nothing new on race day" principle, it will be my first time on a tri-specific bike. I normally ride a road rig with clip-on aeros.

It's definitely going to be an adventure.
2008-02-05 7:23 AM
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The guys at Nytro will not lead in the wrong direction. They are a leader in the industry for this kind of stuff. I think they set up a lot of pros rides before theyhead out to hawaii, etc. You can roll out the front door and go up and down PCH for a while to get a feel.
2008-02-05 10:26 AM
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Xan - 2008-02-04 4:21 PM

ballyard7 - 2008-02-04 4:42 PM

Are you worried at all about the fit or how you will feel on the bike? That is my only concern. Also do you normally ride on a tri bike or a road bike?


Yeah. Big time. The Nytro shop has promised a 15-20 minute fit on pick-up. That at least gets me started and avoids the most obvious problems.

Just to be sure I am incomplete violation of the "nothing new on race day" principle, it will be my first time on a tri-specific bike. I normally ride a road rig with clip-on aeros.

It's definitely going to be an adventure.


u sure about going that distance during a race as ur 1st time on a tri bike. from what i experienced my first couple of times out its not fun with the neck pain. its a different position and with the limited experience i have i dont recommend it. im sure some others will jump in on this. but wow. you have balls.
2008-02-05 12:35 PM
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Xan - 2008-02-04 4:21 PM

Just to be sure I am in complete violation of the "nothing new on race day" principle, it will be my first time on a tri-specific bike. I normally ride a road rig with clip-on aeros.

It's definitely going to be an adventure.


u sure about going that distance during a race as ur 1st time on a tri bike. from what i experienced my first couple of times out its not fun with the neck pain. its a different position and with the limited experience i have i dont recommend it. im sure some others will jump in on this. but wow. you have balls.


I wouldn't recommend it to anyone either. But for a variety of reasons I'm doing it anyway. Whether it takes b@lls (or something closer to stupidity) I won't venture to say just yet.

My expectations are pretty modest. If it goes terribly wrong for some reason and I can't complete the race, that's life. I wouldn't like to injure myself, but short of that, I'm prepared for just about any eventuality. At any rate, it'll be fun to give it a try. I do ride an aero set-up on my current rig, so the neck/back issues won't be totally new to me.

Like I said, it will be interesting.

2008-02-05 12:38 PM
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TheWookie - 2008-02-05 8:23 AM

The guys at Nytro will not lead in the wrong direction. They are a leader in the industry for this kind of stuff. I think they set up a lot of pros rides before theyhead out to hawaii, etc. You can roll out the front door and go up and down PCH for a while to get a feel.


That's what I'm hoping. A quick fit and a short practice ride Friday. The rest I leave in the hands of the tri-gods.

I'll try not to crash into anyone.


2008-02-15 8:32 AM
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So, I assuming it's going to be pretty cold in the morning for this race and that water will definitely be pretty chilly in March. I'm wondering if it's smart to wear a cycling vest and some gloves on the bike? Anybody done this in previous years?
2008-02-15 9:32 AM
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Play it by ear.  2 years ago folks were in full jackets, gloves, etc.

Last year I wore arm warmers only and was ultimately too warm

Just go prepared and make a game day decision

2008-02-15 10:09 AM
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I just looked at the average temps and the average low is 55 and average high is 65. I guess it's because of where i live, but 55 is considered beautiful weather. I will come prepare obviously because it might not be average. I hope it's 55 cause that is awesome weather.
2008-02-15 12:08 PM
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Yeah, end of March is normally low to mid 60s. But, it is not uncommon for us to get Santa Ana Winds (Dry, Hot and Windy Conditions) and it is also not uncommon for us to get cold wet and windy days.

Seems like the real constant in all of this is the water temps. I would be really happy if we get 60 degree temps like last year. I still have my Squid Lid that I got from Nytro at the Expo and will surely be wearing it again this year.

Oh, and last year was a "No Bootie" Year. But, if you bring along a throw away pair of running shoes, they are great for keeping the tootsies warm while you are standing on the boat ramp waiting for your wave to start.

The only other bit that takes some getting used to is that there is really now "Warmup" time in the water. It's get in, get ready and Bang, Your off

2008-02-15 1:07 PM
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What is the water temp historically?


2008-02-15 1:31 PM
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ballyard7 - 2008-02-15 11:07 AM What is the water temp historically?

For non-El Nino Years, it is typically in the upper 50s to 60 degrees. (Stats from Wetsand)

But as Chris pointed out last year, the Bottom Features of Oceanside Harbor can make for conditions to be a bit colder than in the Ocean.

2008-02-15 1:35 PM
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Xan - 2008-02-05 10:35 AM
globalchaos - 2008-02-05 11:26 AM
Xan - 2008-02-04 4:21 PM Just to be sure I am in complete violation of the "nothing new on race day" principle, it will be my first time on a tri-specific bike. I normally ride a road rig with clip-on aeros. It's definitely going to be an adventure.
u sure about going that distance during a race as ur 1st time on a tri bike. from what i experienced my first couple of times out its not fun with the neck pain. its a different position and with the limited experience i have i dont recommend it. im sure some others will jump in on this. but wow. you have balls.
I wouldn't recommend it to anyone either. But for a variety of reasons I'm doing it anyway. Whether it takes b@lls (or something closer to stupidity) I won't venture to say just yet. My expectations are pretty modest. If it goes terribly wrong for some reason and I can't complete the race, that's life. I wouldn't like to injure myself, but short of that, I'm prepared for just about any eventuality. At any rate, it'll be fun to give it a try. I do ride an aero set-up on my current rig, so the neck/back issues won't be totally new to me. Like I said, it will be interesting.

My advice, take a tape measure along, know the current measurement from the center of your crank to the top of your saddle on your regular bike.  Make sure that whatever bike you pick up is configured reasonably close to the same saddle height.  You can avoid my wrecked-knee fate that way.

2008-02-15 2:37 PM
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WaterDog66 - 2008-02-15 1:31 PM

ballyard7 - 2008-02-15 11:07 AM What is the water temp historically?

For non-El Nino Years, it is typically in the upper 50s to 60 degrees. (Stats from Wetsand)

But as Chris pointed out last year, the Bottom Features of Oceanside Harbor can make for conditions to be a bit colder than in the Ocean.



Wow the water is that cold?!?! I was talking about the outside temperature at 55 being warm not the water temp. Will a sleeveless wetsuit be warm enough?
2008-02-15 2:49 PM
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ballyard7 - 2008-02-15 12:37 PM
Wow the water is that cold?!?! I was talking about the outside temperature at 55 being warm not the water temp. Will a sleeveless wetsuit be warm enough?

As a long time Surfer, 57-60 degrees is time for a shorty wetsuit as long as the air temps are warmer. I saw at least a few folks last year going sleeveless but have no comment about how they felt during the swim.

I personally would have been fine last year in a shorty or sleeveless and definitely could have gone without my squid lid. (It was 59-60 last year)

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