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2011-01-06 3:06 PM
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So after getting up at 5 am and hitting the pool for some good pool work, I am unfortunately on IR for at least a week.

In an effort not to embellish the story, I nearly cut my middle finger off with scissors removing tape from the box my repaired work computer was in. Yell

3 stitches in the middle finger will put me out for the week. Should I replace the swim workouts with Bike or Runs?

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2011-01-06 3:20 PM
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Memarshall80 - 2011-01-06 4:06 PM

So after getting up at 5 am and hitting the pool for some good pool work, I am unfortunately on IR for at least a week.

In an effort not to embellish the story, I nearly cut my middle finger off with scissors removing tape from the box my repaired work computer was in. Yell

3 stitches in the middle finger will put me out for the week. Should I replace the swim workouts with Bike or Runs?

Cheers!

 


Ouch!!  Hope it heals up fast.

Not sure how far out you are from your first race but it seems like a week will not set you back too far.  I think you can replace with bike or run as you see fit to feed your need for endorphines but not needed for fitness.  Don't overdo the other disciplines...the recovery portion is still important.

Maybe on of these next time???
2011-01-06 3:48 PM
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Memarshall80 - 2011-01-06 4:06 PM

So after getting up at 5 am and hitting the pool for some good pool work, I am unfortunately on IR for at least a week.

In an effort not to embellish the story, I nearly cut my middle finger off with scissors removing tape from the box my repaired work computer was in. Yell

3 stitches in the middle finger will put me out for the week. Should I replace the swim workouts with Bike or Runs?

Cheers!

 


Ouch!!  Hope it heals up fast.

Not sure how far out you are from your first race but it seems like a week will not set you back too far.  I think you can replace with bike or run as you see fit to feed your need for endorphines but not needed for fitness.  Don't overdo the other disciplines...the recovery portion is still important.

Maybe on of these next time???


HAHAHA. My assistant had one on my desk when I got back to the office.

Thanks for the tip Wink
2011-01-06 6:09 PM
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Memarshall80 - 2011-01-06 3:06 PM

So after getting up at 5 am and hitting the pool for some good pool work, I am unfortunately on IR for at least a week.

In an effort not to embellish the story, I nearly cut my middle finger off with scissors removing tape from the box my repaired work computer was in. Yell

3 stitches in the middle finger will put me out for the week. Should I replace the swim workouts with Bike or Runs?

Cheers!

 


Bummer, but glad you're ok.  I wouldn't add extra biking or running, but can you use bands to strengthen your lats and pecs?  My swim coach suggested I get a set and they have helped build strength.  otherwise if you're open to it, how about yoga?
2011-01-06 8:44 PM
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So, tonight, I had a 6 mile run scheduled.  I made it a 10K and pushed to make it a best effort for me at that distance.  Got it done under an hour (under 58 minutes actually), a new PR.  Woo hoo!

The cool thing is I compared my pace to the output from the MacMillian running calculator discussed last week here in the group and my pace was very close to what was predicted for that distance....well, actually I was a bit faster than that pace.

Being a data geek, I love it when the numbers line up nicely like that.  Smile 
2011-01-06 8:59 PM
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gdctex - 2011-01-06 9:44 PM So, tonight, I had a 6 mile run scheduled.  I made it a 10K and pushed to make it a best effort for me at that distance.  Got it done under an hour (under 58 minutes actually), a new PR.  Woo hoo!

The cool thing is I compared my pace to the output from the MacMillian running calculator discussed last week here in the group and my pace was very close to what was predicted for that distance....well, actually I was a bit faster than that pace.

Being a data geek, I love it when the numbers line up nicely like that.  Smile 


Awesome job!!  Congrats.  It is always great to push yourself and be rewarded for it!


2011-01-06 9:05 PM
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gdctex - 2011-01-06 9:44 PM So, tonight, I had a 6 mile run scheduled.  I made it a 10K and pushed to make it a best effort for me at that distance.  Got it done under an hour (under 58 minutes actually), a new PR.  Woo hoo!

The cool thing is I compared my pace to the output from the MacMillian running calculator discussed last week here in the group and my pace was very close to what was predicted for that distance....well, actually I was a bit faster than that pace.

Being a data geek, I love it when the numbers line up nicely like that.  Smile 



Nice job, Glen! 
2011-01-06 9:13 PM
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gdctex - 2011-01-06 8:44 PM So, tonight, I had a 6 mile run scheduled.  I made it a 10K and pushed to make it a best effort for me at that distance.  Got it done under an hour (under 58 minutes actually), a new PR.  Woo hoo!

The cool thing is I compared my pace to the output from the MacMillian running calculator discussed last week here in the group and my pace was very close to what was predicted for that distance....well, actually I was a bit faster than that pace.

Being a data geek, I love it when the numbers line up nicely like that.  Smile 

Awesome!

2011-01-06 9:42 PM
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gdctex - 2011-01-06 8:44 PM So, tonight, I had a 6 mile run scheduled.  I made it a 10K and pushed to make it a best effort for me at that distance.  Got it done under an hour (under 58 minutes actually), a new PR.  Woo hoo!

The cool thing is I compared my pace to the output from the MacMillian running calculator discussed last week here in the group and my pace was very close to what was predicted for that distance....well, actually I was a bit faster than that pace.

Being a data geek, I love it when the numbers line up nicely like that.  Smile 


Congrats and good to know as well. I am a bit of a data GEEK too having the Engineering background I am very data driven.

That is solid.. I want to break into that one hour mark this year too. I have only done 3 10k runs so far and I am around 73 mins. But I am going to use the pacing calculator to setup stuff and see how it goes.
2011-01-06 9:46 PM
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Well not sure how everyone else is doing. I have been stupid busy at work.

but so far, Got a workout in every day for 2011, got it all logged here, food logged as well.

Did my first swim night over 3000 meters. 3050meters tonight. I miscounted and missed one of the 100m swims and quit with 50m to go as it was time to close up the pool.

Still new PR for me in swim distance. Man it got sloppy after about 2600 meters.


now to start working on building up my run distance as I have been convinced to do my first half marathon in May. Having never run more then 10km before in my life.. I am nervous as hell at being able to train for this.
2011-01-06 9:54 PM
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ashort33 - 2011-01-06 7:16 AM

Who was part of the AM team today?  Up at 5:00 and got in an slow, easy run of just over 2 miles.  Swim coming at lunch today and then some Yoga tonight to stretch it out...



as far as I got was thinking about it. Did get in an am swim at lunch started at 11:10am then an evening run.


2011-01-06 10:04 PM
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So far most of the questions I have read have been about workouts
miles/time on running and cycling, yards/meters swimming.

So what about mental  toughness what preparations does everyone make for training and races how do you coupe with different types of physical and mental stress.
2011-01-06 11:08 PM
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Congrats on the 10K PR, Glen!!

And congrats on the swim distance PR, Chris -- and working out every day so far this year. Awesome!!!

2011-01-06 11:30 PM
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fowlmood - 2011-01-06 8:04 PM So far most of the questions I have read have been about workouts
miles/time on running and cycling, yards/meters swimming.

So what about mental  toughness what preparations does everyone make for training and races how do you coupe with different types of physical and mental stress.


I think that you will see that as you get into your harder workouts, or longer workouts you will start to test your mental skills. Keep in mind you are always working on your mental game.  I mean you convince yourself to go workout.  Think about when you go to it snooze?  That is a mental decision you made to workout instead of sleeping.   When it comes to a race, and things are at a low point for you.... Think of the days YOU DID NOT HIT SNOOZE!!!

 
2011-01-06 11:31 PM
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gdctex - 2011-01-06 6:44 PM So, tonight, I had a 6 mile run scheduled.  I made it a 10K and pushed to make it a best effort for me at that distance.  Got it done under an hour (under 58 minutes actually), a new PR.  Woo hoo!

The cool thing is I compared my pace to the output from the MacMillian running calculator discussed last week here in the group and my pace was very close to what was predicted for that distance....well, actually I was a bit faster than that pace.

Being a data geek, I love it when the numbers line up nicely like that.  Smile 


Very well done! 
2011-01-07 6:32 AM
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gdctex - 2011-01-06 9:44 PM So, tonight, I had a 6 mile run scheduled.  I made it a 10K and pushed to make it a best effort for me at that distance.  Got it done under an hour (under 58 minutes actually), a new PR.  Woo hoo!

The cool thing is I compared my pace to the output from the MacMillian running calculator discussed last week here in the group and my pace was very close to what was predicted for that distance....well, actually I was a bit faster than that pace.

Being a data geek, I love it when the numbers line up nicely like that.  Smile 


awesome job!


2011-01-07 6:40 AM
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fowlmood - 2011-01-06 11:04 PM So far most of the questions I have read have been about workouts
miles/time on running and cycling, yards/meters swimming.

So what about mental  toughness what preparations does everyone make for training and races how do you coupe with different types of physical and mental stress.


for training, once every couple of weeks stay up late crushing beer the night before a hard workout planned for early the next morning.  and you're not allowed to take a cold shower before the workout. 

if that doesn't toughen you up then go by a tutu and some dance lessons.
2011-01-07 6:50 AM
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Techdiver - 2011-01-06 9:46 PM Well not sure how everyone else is doing. I have been stupid busy at work.

but so far, Got a workout in every day for 2011, got it all logged here, food logged as well.

Did my first swim night over 3000 meters. 3050meters tonight. I miscounted and missed one of the 100m swims and quit with 50m to go as it was time to close up the pool.

Still new PR for me in swim distance. Man it got sloppy after about 2600 meters.


now to start working on building up my run distance as I have been convinced to do my first half marathon in May. Having never run more then 10km before in my life.. I am nervous as hell at being able to train for this.


AWESOME work!  You will be great for your half marathon, I know it!  My first is in May, also, so we have a lot of fun ahead of us!
2011-01-07 6:51 AM
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gdctex - 2011-01-06 8:44 PM So, tonight, I had a 6 mile run scheduled.  I made it a 10K and pushed to make it a best effort for me at that distance.  Got it done under an hour (under 58 minutes actually), a new PR.  Woo hoo!

The cool thing is I compared my pace to the output from the MacMillian running calculator discussed last week here in the group and my pace was very close to what was predicted for that distance....well, actually I was a bit faster than that pace.

Being a data geek, I love it when the numbers line up nicely like that.  Smile 


Great Job....being a data guy, isn't it great how that calculator works.  I used it for my last 15k and was once again amazed how right on the pace was!!!
2011-01-07 6:54 AM
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fowlmood - 2011-01-06 10:04 PM So far most of the questions I have read have been about workouts
miles/time on running and cycling, yards/meters swimming.

So what about mental  toughness what preparations does everyone make for training and races how do you coupe with different types of physical and mental stress.


I've gotten a lot better at digging deep for races (and training) than I used to be.  For me, I set a very specific goal (e.g. for IM I told myself I would walk only 10 steps through water stations to drink and then I would get huffing) and stick with it.  As the pain increases, I have that goal in my head and I know if I veer from it, I will totally disappoint myself post race.  In order to succeed, I have to believe I can achieve the goal with hard effort and have to really want it.

Believe in yourself and the sky really is the limit.  I'm sort of living proof of that.....not a ton of talent, but a ton of will.  Sometimes that's enough

PS. There are several worthy books out there....my favorite is Training and Talent are Underrated, but Running Within is also a good place to start.

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2011-01-07 6:55 AM
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For all the attorneys in the group....Off work for the day to watch my oldest competete in the State Competetion for the "We the people" constitutional law debate at the State Capital today.  Amazing they are only juniors in high school when you sit and watch them rattle off court cases, etc. as part of thier arguments. 

Suzy,  Shelly and I are hoping for enough time for a gyro or some Paisans for lunch!!  Yum.


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fowlmood - 2011-01-06 10:04 PM So far most of the questions I have read have been about workouts
miles/time on running and cycling, yards/meters swimming.

So what about mental  toughness what preparations does everyone make for training and races how do you coupe with different types of physical and mental stress.


I've gotten a lot better at digging deep for races (and training) than I used to be.  For me, I set a very specific goal (e.g. for IM I told myself I would walk only 10 steps through water stations to drink and then I would get huffing) and stick with it.  As the pain increases, I have that goal in my head and I know if I veer from it, I will totally disappoint myself post race.  In order to succeed, I have to believe I can achieve the goal with hard effort and have to really want it.

Believe in yourself and the sky really is the limit.  I'm sort of living proof of that.....not a ton of talent, but a ton of will.  Sometimes that's enough

PS. There are several worthy books out there....my favorite is Training and Talent are Underrated, but Running Within is also a good place to start.


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So are any of you WI folks doing any races in Illinois this year?
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Techdiver - 2011-01-06 9:42 PM
gdctex - 2011-01-06 8:44 PM So, tonight, I had a 6 mile run scheduled.  I made it a 10K and pushed to make it a best effort for me at that distance.  Got it done under an hour (under 58 minutes actually), a new PR.  Woo hoo!

The cool thing is I compared my pace to the output from the MacMillian running calculator discussed last week here in the group and my pace was very close to what was predicted for that distance....well, actually I was a bit faster than that pace.

Being a data geek, I love it when the numbers line up nicely like that.  Smile 


Congrats and good to know as well. I am a bit of a data GEEK too having the Engineering background I am very data driven.

That is solid.. I want to break into that one hour mark this year too. I have only done 3 10k runs so far and I am around 73 mins. But I am going to use the pacing calculator to setup stuff and see how it goes.


I have an engineering background too.....let's hope the rest of the group does not hold that against us.  Smile

I had the same goal going into run focus training last fall after my last tri.  Stick with it, train smart and ask questions here.  It does work! 
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Training when you don't want to...Talking yourself out of quitting a long run when your not feeling it...getting up early when you want to sleep...having a miserable workout that you just suck at but survive.  This is your mental training!  These are the successes you think about in the middle of a race when the wheels are coming off.  You might walk for a minute or 20 and every step is agony and then you take a deep breath and try and pull it back together again and go again even it you have to do it 10 times during a race that is mental toughness.

It's an attitude...failure is not an option.  I didn't get up at 5am for the last 6 months to quit.  You didn't sacrifice all your social time to workout just to quit.  You haven't put up with all your spouses "moods" about your workouts to quit.  It's believing in yourself.  It's getting mad at yourself.  It's pushing yourself.  It's holding yourself accountable.

My IM swim sucked.  The water was 57 degrees and after 20 min the cold had jacked with my HR and I was getting testy with everyone around me and panicky and started having doubts 3/4 of the way through my first loop.  I started thinking that if I couldn't pull myself together I wasn't going to be able to finish.  You have to be able to shut your mind down when it starts talking crap and say "NO", I'm better than that. Or my actual conversation with myself was ", I'm not going back to work to tell everyone I quit".  Then I had to evaluate what was wrong and make a plan and adjust.

1.)  Stick to your workouts and finish them.  If you give yourself excuses in your workouts you will give yourself excuses while your racing.    My personal favorite when I'm having a bad swim or run is to promise myself I'll stop after 200 then just to be evil it's another 500 or whatever.  My brain hates my ego we talk to each other all through the workout. 

2.)  Find your happy/motivated place.  Know what will calm you down.  Is it a memory of a vacation, your kids, spouse, Happy and calm is different than Motivated and Fired up...a visual of the way you are or use to be or who you want to be?

3.)  Tell EVERYBODY you know what you are doing and post it on your office door.  I am not kidding here.  I can't tell you how many times I just wanted to change my goal and forget the IM but didn't because it was on my door and the GM would come by periodically and ask me about how things were going.  Pride is a great motivator.

4.)  Have a motto or two...pick a motto and know it by heart.  Use it in training and it will come to you in racing.  Tape it to your bike if you have to.

ie...Suck it up buttercup or HTFU..just don't tell Suzy. ,  Nothing to it but to do it!  Good, Better, Best, never rest until your good is better than the rest.  Not sure where I got this one from but it works when your running on each foot strike.

5.)  Evaluate and change plans on the fly. (SOOOOO, important)  You should always have a race plan A, B and C and even then you might have to be creative.  Very rarely will you ever have a race that goes exactly as planned.

6.)  Learn the difference between workout pain and injury pain.  There is no shame in pulling out of a race because you feel something that is just wrong.  I've been out for two years because of working through pain.  I am in the process of discovering how I need to prepare my body to race and what I need to do when things feel off but I won't ever hesitate to stop if I can't get things undercontrol because one race isn't worth two years.  We aren't talking blisters here.

7)  Know why you are doing this.  This isn't the simple answer, "because somebody asked me to do it."  There's a reason you decided to torture yourself.  You may not even know why right now but you will discover it in your training.  Race day is a catered training day.  It's just another day in the end.  Triathlon is a journey of self discovery.  The work, blood, sweat, tears and money come from a place within.  Know what your motivation is and use it when the going gets tough.

7)  Last but not least...be realistic with your goals and be prepared.

Sorry this got so long.  You hit a sore spot that I've been struggling with to get back on track.  You might have to feed this back to me as I go.

 

fowlmood - 2011-01-06 10:04 PM So far most of the questions I have read have been about workouts
miles/time on running and cycling, yards/meters swimming.

So what about mental  toughness what preparations does everyone make for training and races how do you coupe with different types of physical and mental stress.

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