Here's what I think....as if it matters.... (Page 5)

False.

Some of this has been covered but a few points stick out in my mind.

1. The 2a was meant for us to defend ourselves against the government. I believe we should have access to semi-auto weapons as we currently do. And yes, I think the citizens of this country could form a pretty good rebellion with just small arms. We have been in Afghanistan for 10 years and haven't made any progress at all. The afghani's do not have drones, tanks and nuclear weapons and they seem to be putting up a dang good fight.

2. Banning semi-auto's is not going to do a lot of good as far as preventing these incidents IMO. Consider the following video. Obviously this guy is an expert but 12 rounds in less than 3 seconds with a revolver is pretty good. With practice the CT nutjob (who was a regular at the range) could probably get it down to 12 shots in 6 seconds.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLk1v5bSFPw Even 12 shots in 10 seconds is still going to do a lot of damage before the police can get there.

3. I think we need to arm certain personnel in the school. Why shouldn't the principal have a handgun in their office? In this shooting the principal died "attempting to stop the killer". What if she had been well trained and armed? I personally would feel better about my hypothetical kids being in a school where a highly trained principal had access to the tools to protect the kids. The kids are never going to know the difference, it doesn't have to go to the extreme of having a rifle over every teachers back. But what if that principal having a gun had saved just 5 kids, I say that is worthwhile. 

It's not an assault rifle either.

Assault Rifle (or Assault Weapon):

• It must be an individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder (i.e. a buttstock);
• It must be capable of selective fire;
• It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle;
• Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable magazine rather than a feed-belt.
• And it should at least have a firing range of 300 meters (1000 feet)

Selective fire means the ability to shoot in 2 or 3 modes: semi-automatic, burst (2-3 on one trigger pull) or full automatic (a "machine gun").

Very, very few private citizen own automatic weapons.  Any those who do are so are highly scrutinized and checked out.

Reminder to self: don't watch TV at Goosedog's house...

is that going to be a qualification as an educator?  you need to be willing to carry a gun?

i have no interest in handling a gun or taking a human life, and as such i didn't choose a profession that required it.  if i were forced to be trained to defend my plant (there are 500 people here, not a bad place to start for a mass killing) using a gun i would probably quit, or be a greater liablility to my coworkers due to my lack of comfort with a gun. 

The issue I have with item 3, is what is to keep the principle from snapping and then taking out a classroom?  Are we to assume that a principal is ammune to mental illnes and snapping?  Or someone else at the school that may have access to it?

It's a tough call.  I see the point in protection, but the idea of fighting guns with more guns, especially in schools, makes me uneasy.

Simply impractical. Now a teacher not only has to know their job, but has to become tactical weapon certified. The School district is going to take on the responsibility and LIABILITY of an armed employee force. What is the school districts policy going to be for handling, storing, and equiping thier employees for "service" weapons?

No... the job of protecting public safety already has people doing that... they are called police officers. Arming faculty is not the answer.

I don't think teachers should be packing. Too many guns in once place and too hard to administer all the proper training and such. I think the principal having one and being well trained would be a good idea. Or perhaps the principal can defer to another administrative person. 

Note: I said PRINCIPAL for a reason. No I don't think every teacher needs a gun, as I said too many to keep track of and too many people to monitor. One or two administrators could work though IMO.

Yes I think we can trust a well trained principal not to snap the same as we trust a police officer not to snap. Can it happen? Sure, but we give guns to cops why can't we screen one or two admin, train them properly and then give them access to a tool. 

Because that worked so well with pot, cocaine, heroin, meth, alcohol (during prohibition) etc....

a principal IS an educator.

After returning from my second deployment to Iraq, I was sitting at lunch at some fast food place and three plain-clothes agents walked in and sat at the table next to me. 

One of the agents had the button holding his pistol on his holster unsnapped and sure enough the darn thing fell-out and as he reached for it, he kicked it across the aisle to where I was.  I just stopped it with my foot and when he came-over to get it, I said "You know, in the Corps, you'd be doing pushups until your heart exploded for that."

I could imagine that for every life saved by requiring someone to carry, there would be close to equal the number of negligent discharges or unsecured weapons (where you hang it up to use the restroom and forget it in there).  I wonder how many cases we haven't heard about on airlines of that kind of stuff.

Of note on 2 of my bosses calendars this year was handgun training at the local firing range. No joke.

I didn't ask, but I definitely noticed it on their calendars. Set up by head of Security. 

CT's wording is then, incorrect.  But it does not surprise me.  It's become a term like Kleenex or Nylon or Xerox.  People have no idea what it really means anymore.

As you stated, that won't work.  I have my grandfather's guns, I will have my father's guns.  My son and daughters and grandchildren will have them all one day.....and know how to use them responsibly.  No law will stop that.  I'm really not a "pry it from my cold dead hands" kind of person, but still, I want my family members to be able to defend themselves if need be.

Arm educators?  Do they want that? 

Here is an delima, and I would like an honest answer... I'm asking an honest question.

Guns are too dangerous, they can't be trusted... so instead of dealing with people after they break the law, we will punish them prior and severely restrict their rights under 2A... if not just do away with them. This will effect millions of gun owners, but it is OK to infringe their rights because of the "potential" public safety issue.

Now... mentally ill people are too dangerous. They can't be trusted... so, instead of dealing with people after they break the law, we will punish them prior to and severly restrict their freedom to society. We will round them up and put them someplace safe so they have no potential to harm others. This will obviously effect a lot of people, and infringing their rights is OK because it is for a "potential" public safety issue.

And if the principal snaps?

Spitballing here.  Some other ideas that may (or may not) be more effective than a principle having a gunfight with someone that takes over a school, with who KNOW what may happen - stray bullets, they pricipal may just lose the duel...

It's not a perfect solution, but you could install bullet resistant/proof windows and doors with a panic button.  Shots fired, hit a button and the doors lock/close throughout the school.  It's obviously reactive and can't stop it completely, but it could limit it.  Most of the mass shootings at schools are when the perpatrator goes from room to room.  You can slow them down or limit them to one area.  Not to say if the shooter is limited to ONE room, the results can't be just as desastrous.

Lee Harvey Oswald got off 3 rounds in 6 seconds and scored two hits including a head shot on a moving target from that school book suppository building. 

You can fire rapidly with a lot of different weapons.  30 round mags do speed up the rate of fire.  But they also jam a lot more than the more manual weapons.