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 2013-08-12 9:30 AM in reply to: axteraa |
Regular  5477    LHOTP |  Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again...Originally posted by axteraa Had a great race today. 2:21 Olympic with a slightly short swim and slightly long bike. My 10k run time was a PR - open or tri - at 45:10. First out of the water, first off the bike and 4th overall (out of a whopping 19 entrants....). 3rd place passed me with 400 meters to go but at least I forced him to run a 37 min 10k to do it. ;) The crazy part was my saddle nose tilting down about 10 mins into the race. This is what I had to ride on for an hour. That saddle is freakin CRAZY. LOL! You know, most of us think an oly is challenging enough without gettin all "creative" with your saddle placement;) Nice job on the PR, man. |
| 2013-08-12 9:32 AM in reply to: switch |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... My RR is up for AGN, 2:30:03 Do you have any idea how many different ways you can play the 3 second game? Sucky race, great learning experience. Looking forward to next year. |
| 2013-08-12 10:11 AM in reply to: switch |
Veteran 2842  Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by switch My RR is up for AGN, 2:30:03 Do you have any idea how many different ways you can play the 3 second game? Sucky race, great learning experience. Looking forward to next year. Great RR and day (see comment over yonder in RRs), but what's the 3 second game? |
| 2013-08-12 10:15 AM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Originally posted by switch My RR is up for AGN, 2:30:03 Do you have any idea how many different ways you can play the 3 second game? Sucky race, great learning experience. Looking forward to next year. Great RR and day (see comment over yonder in RRs), but what's the 3 second game? Check out the finish time and subtract 3 seconds. It should actually be the 4 second game - 3 less would be worse I think. |
| 2013-08-12 10:17 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by ChrisM Awesome job arend. 2:21 is solid. Tab's pics on Facebook make that look like a lonely race though! With less than 100 entrants spread over the Olympic, sprint (tri and du for both) it was lonely at times. For the first loop of the bike there were other riders around but once I started the second loop it was me and the road for quite a while. I dunno, sometimes the space is kind of nice, especially with a looped course. Agreed that sometimes the pain cave is more hospitable when alone. But... is it just me that finds another gear more easily when I know either I have to bridge up or that I'm being chased? I find that when there are no visible riders or runners in front or behind (provided there is a long straight/clear section on which to check, or an out and back) that I push hard but not HARD. Maybe it's a sign (one of many, I'm sure) of a lack of mental fortitude on my part. Having said that, let me straddle the fence again immediately. After my last race (Oly), there were no runners near or far when I finished, so I knew my AG standing was locked in and cruised across the line with a smile and the best looking stride I could muster (kids and Kim were there for the first time this year - oh vanity, thy name is Old-tri-dude). Buuuuuuuut, when I finished and saw the overall, I could have moved up some 3-4 spots if I'd spent what was left in the tank the last 3-4k of the run (small time delta among the group - just all from different waves). So, I suspect now I'll always feel like someone is chasing me or just in front (and in need of being run down!), even if I'm alone. Is that the secret? Or do you all have the ability to go your hardest without other people around (iow, can you time trial alone on a random Sunday as fast as you race)? Matt I was thinking along the lines of being able to just hammer along instead of it being a slalom course. It's fun, but sometimes I just want to go without having to think so much. The greater the speed difference with the crowd, the more you have to be alert and be thinking ahead. I agree totally. Given the choice between being all alone and on a slalom course, I would take being alone any day. Much easier to just ride your race. |
| 2013-08-12 10:29 AM in reply to: axteraa |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Originally posted by switch My RR is up for AGN, 2:30:03 Do you have any idea how many different ways you can play the 3 second game? Sucky race, great learning experience. Looking forward to next year. Great RR and day (see comment over yonder in RRs), but what's the 3 second game? Check out the finish time and subtract 3 seconds. It should actually be the 4 second game - 3 less would be worse I think. Duh. |
| 2013-08-12 11:01 AM in reply to: switch |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by switch My RR is up for AGN, 2:30:03 Do you have any idea how many different ways you can play the 3 second game? Sucky race, great learning experience. Looking forward to next year. I think you're just trying to give yourself some easy ways to go faster next time. |
| 2013-08-12 11:12 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by brigby1 I just took my bike into my LBS to return the wheels and they were all "How'd you like the wheels?!" And I said "Well, I had the same bike mph for my HIM as I did for this oly and I was really thinking I'd get 1.5-2mph faster than that. Can you guys look at this?" Then I showed them the rear wheel brake clearance (or lack there of). LBS dude, "Oh, wow, yeah, that's totally rubbing. Do you want me to adjust that for you?" I had to leave the store and go scream in my truck. Yeah, that would explain my crappy bike split and run. Thanks boys, it was just Nationals. Ugh. Must get wrenching skills.Originally posted by switch My RR is up for AGN, 2:30:03 Do you have any idea how many different ways you can play the 3 second game? Sucky race, great learning experience. Looking forward to next year. I think you're just trying to give yourself some easy ways to go faster next time. |
| 2013-08-12 12:37 PM in reply to: switch |
| Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by switch Originally posted by brigby1 I just took my bike into my LBS to return the wheels and they were all "How'd you like the wheels?!" And I said "Well, I had the same bike mph for my HIM as I did for this oly and I was really thinking I'd get 1.5-2mph faster than that. Can you guys look at this?" Then I showed them the rear wheel brake clearance (or lack there of). LBS dude, "Oh, wow, yeah, that's totally rubbing. Do you want me to adjust that for you?" I had to leave the store and go scream in my truck. Yeah, that would explain my crappy bike split and run. Thanks boys, it was just Nationals. Ugh. Must get wrenching skills. Originally posted by switch My RR is up for AGN, 2:30:03 Do you have any idea how many different ways you can play the 3 second game? Sucky race, great learning experience. Looking forward to next year. I think you're just trying to give yourself some easy ways to go faster next time. Ummmmm..... Did that happen during the ride or did you check (or not) beforehand? Sorry about the :03 |
| 2013-08-12 12:39 PM in reply to: 0 |
| Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Just learned that they are changing the IM Canada swim course from a two loop with a beach exit affiar to a two loop no exit swim. I like the change, I like getting into a rhythm and staying there. People are complaining about cheater, skipping a loop, but frankly I don't really care as I won't be at the pointy end by day's end. I highly doubt that someone who is in 1:00 1.2 mile shape could pull off a 5:00 ride and a 3:30 run to KQ. But I guess you never know. Edited by ChrisM 2013-08-12 12:39 PM |
| 2013-08-12 12:41 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
| Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... RR is up. Chris...won't there be timing mats after the first loop of the swim? |
| 2013-08-12 1:07 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Orig Yeah, here's where my inexperience shows (I mean another area where it shows). I didn't check it because it never occurred to me that they would change out my wheels and not have that adjusted. It is 100% my fault (I shouldn't blame it on my LBS) for not checking it. Not on the bike it was rubbing for 1/3 of the revolution, was probably more with my weight on the bike.inally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by switch Originally posted by brigby1 I just took my bike into my LBS to return the wheels and they were all "How'd you like the wheels?!" And I said "Well, I had the same bike mph for my HIM as I did for this oly and I was really thinking I'd get 1.5-2mph faster than that. Can you guys look at this?" Then I showed them the rear wheel brake clearance (or lack there of). LBS dude, "Oh, wow, yeah, that's totally rubbing. Do you want me to adjust that for you?" I had to leave the store and go scream in my truck. Yeah, that would explain my crappy bike split and run. Thanks boys, it was just Nationals. Ugh. Must get wrenching skills. Originally posted by switch My RR is up for AGN, 2:30:03 Do you have any idea how many different ways you can play the 3 second game? Sucky race, great learning experience. Looking forward to next year. I think you're just trying to give yourself some easy ways to go faster next time. Ummmmm..... :) Did that happen during the ride or did you check (or not) beforehand? Sorry about the :03 Maybe it happened on the bike. That would make me feel better. Kinda. Sorta. Except that it felt like that right away, so it probably was like that before the ride. Serious newbie mistake. I make a lot of those. I'll stop whining now:) |
| 2013-08-12 2:05 PM in reply to: Jason N |
| Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by Jason N RR is up. Chris...won't there be timing mats after the first loop of the swim? not without a beach exit |
| 2013-08-12 2:32 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by ChrisM Just learned that they are changing the IM Canada swim course from a two loop with a beach exit affiar to a two loop no exit swim. I like the change, I like getting into a rhythm and staying there. People are complaining about cheater, skipping a loop, but frankly I don't really care as I won't be at the pointy end by day's end. I highly doubt that someone who is in 1:00 1.2 mile shape could pull off a 5:00 ride and a 3:30 run to KQ. But I guess you never know. ST will hunt them down if they only do one loop. I like the change! |
| 2013-08-12 3:03 PM in reply to: switch |
Veteran 1677 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by switchYeah, here's where my inexperience shows (I mean another area where it shows). I didn't check it because it never occurred to me that they would change out my wheels and not have that adjusted. It is 100% my fault(I shouldn't blame it on my LBS) for not checking it. Not on the bike it was rubbing for 1/3 of the revolution, was probably more with my weight on the bike. Maybe it happened on the bike. That would make me feel better. Kinda. Sorta. Except that it felt like that right away, so it probably was like that before the ride. Serious newbie mistake. I make a lot of those. I'll stop whining now If it makes you feel any better, I probably wouldn't have checked either. I just put my new wheels on the bike and happened to notice because it was rubbing enough that I couldn't even spin the wheel. However, as I was riding, I noticed that my rear derailleur was shifting like chit....in fact, the one gear I wanted to be in was the only gear I couldn't seem to get into, so I spent the ride at an unnatural-for-me cadence. I got home and complained to my husband that the LBS either did a crap job adjusting the derailleur during the tune-up (exactly the reason I literally never get tune-ups on my bike!!) or that we installed the cassette incorrectly. He said those aren't the reasons it's not shifting well and something about the hub (?) being wider on the new wheel. Then I started whining that that sucks because I still plan on using my old wheel, so I'll always have one wheel with sucky shifting. Apparently there's some barrel adjuster that should take care of the issue. I told him he'd have to show me next week cause I was over it by the end of the ride yesterday! Yay for being noobs, huh? |
| 2013-08-12 3:16 PM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by ligersandtions Haha..yes, exactly! Go us :)Originally posted by switchYeah, here's where my inexperience shows (I mean another area where it shows). I didn't check it because it never occurred to me that they would change out my wheels and not have that adjusted. It is 100% my fault(I shouldn't blame it on my LBS) for not checking it. Not on the bike it was rubbing for 1/3 of the revolution, was probably more with my weight on the bike. Maybe it happened on the bike. That would make me feel better. Kinda. Sorta. Except that it felt like that right away, so it probably was like that before the ride. Serious newbie mistake. I make a lot of those. I'll stop whining now:) If it makes you feel any better, I probably wouldn't have checked either. I just put my new wheels on the bike and happened to notice because it was rubbing enough that I couldn't even spin the wheel. However, as I was riding, I noticed that my rear derailleur was shifting like chit....in fact, the one gear I wanted to be in was the only gear I couldn't seem to get into, so I spent the ride at an unnatural-for-me cadence. I got home and complained to my husband that the LBS either did a crap job adjusting the derailleur during the tune-up (exactly the reason I literally never get tune-ups on my bike!!) or that we installed the cassette incorrectly. He said those aren't the reasons it's not shifting well and something about the hub (?) being wider on the new wheel. Then I started whining that that sucks because I still plan on using my old wheel, so I'll always have one wheel with sucky shifting. Apparently there's some barrel adjuster that should take care of the issue. I told him he'd have to show me next week cause I was over it by the end of the ride yesterday! Yay for being noobs, huh? You know when you're so new you don't even know what to check? Yeah, I'm that new. Nicole, I've decided I am going to get a crap bike and build it up from parts from our bike library (a place in town where you can get spare, used parts on the cheap). I'm gonna see what I can figure out on my own, and call in (hire, bribe, pay with beer) help from a bikey person when I get stuck. There is just no other way around it, and if we're (you and me sista) are gonna be serious about this tri thing, we should figure it out so we can do all our own wrenching and be independent. |
| 2013-08-12 3:21 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by ChrisM Just learned that they are changing the IM Canada swim course from a two loop with a beach exit affiar to a two loop no exit swim. I like the change, I like getting into a rhythm and staying there. People are complaining about cheater, skipping a loop, but frankly I don't really care as I won't be at the pointy end by day's end. I highly doubt that someone who is in 1:00 1.2 mile shape could pull off a 5:00 ride and a 3:30 run to KQ. But I guess you never know. ST will hunt them down if they only do one loop. ;) I like the change! That thread was epic. I wonder whatever happened to her? The change sounds like a win. I would not like to get out and get back in--totally agree on staying in the rhythm. |
| 2013-08-12 6:15 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
| Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by Jason N RR is up. Chris...won't there be timing mats after the first loop of the swim? not without a beach exit Ah...I only skimmed over the changes you mentioned and thought it was going from 1 loop to 2 loop with a beach exit. I suppose if I was a legitimate KQ contender I would be upset about it. If you give enough people the opportunity to cheat, someone will take it. |
| 2013-08-12 6:43 PM in reply to: Jason N |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... I had another nice Monday ride with my wife. She has discovered Strava and we went around snagging QOMs for her - LOL. And no, she didn't draft off me to get them... we both hammered up the hills. I would get some middle of the pack time and she would get the QOM. RR from my race yesterday is up! http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=497851 |
| 2013-08-13 8:03 AM in reply to: 0 |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by switch Yeah, here's where my inexperience shows (I mean another area where it shows). I didn't check it because it never occurred to me that they would change out my wheels and not have that adjusted. It is 100% my fault (I shouldn't blame it on my LBS) for not checking it. Not on the bike it was rubbing for 1/3 of the revolution, was probably more with my weight on the bike. Maybe it happened on the bike. That would make me feel better. Kinda. Sorta. Except that it felt like that right away, so it probably was like that before the ride. Serious newbie mistake. I make a lot of those. I'll stop whining now:) If you had a power meter you probably would have known something was wrong... Nicole, I've decided I am going to get a crap bike and build it up from parts from our bike library (a place in town where you can get spare, used parts on the cheap). I'm gonna see what I can figure out on my own, and call in (hire, bribe, pay with beer) help from a bikey person when I get stuck. There is just no other way around it, and if we're (you and me sista) are gonna be serious about this tri thing, we should figure it out so we can do all our own wrenching and be independent. The more I learn about bike maintenance, the more I realize I don't know much at all. (Does that make sense?). I try to do as much of my own work as I can simply to learn how things work and what to do when things do go wrong. I knew enough about how my saddle was adjusted to know that I didn't have the right tools on me during the race to fix it so I didn't bother stopping. There are areas of the bike that I haven't ventured into yet though. Brake cables and cranks/bottom brackets etc come to mind... Edited by axteraa 2013-08-13 8:05 AM |
| 2013-08-13 8:14 AM in reply to: axteraa |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by switch Yeah, here's where my inexperience shows (I mean another area where it shows). I didn't check it because it never occurred to me that they would change out my wheels and not have that adjusted. It is 100% my fault (I shouldn't blame it on my LBS) for not checking it. Not on the bike it was rubbing for 1/3 of the revolution, was probably more with my weight on the bike. Maybe it happened on the bike. That would make me feel better. Kinda. Sorta. Except that it felt like that right away, so it probably was like that before the ride. Serious newbie mistake. I make a lot of those. I'll stop whining now If you had a power meter you probably would have known something was wrong... I've actually figured it out a few times because of that. I always check the brake/wheel alignment because they do get bumped during transport or when changing out wheels. Nicole, I've decided I am going to get a crap bike and build it up from parts from our bike library (a place in town where you can get spare, used parts on the cheap). I'm gonna see what I can figure out on my own, and call in (hire, bribe, pay with beer) help from a bikey person when I get stuck. There is just no other way around it, and if we're (you and me sista) are gonna be serious about this tri thing, we should figure it out so we can do all our own wrenching and be independent. The more I learn about bike maintenance, the more I realize I don't know much at all. (Does that make sense?). I try to do as much of my own work as I can simply to learn how things work and what to do when things do go wrong. I knew enough about how my saddle was adjusted to know that I didn't have the right tools on me during the race to fix it so I didn't bother stopping. There are areas of the bike that I haven't ventured into yet though. Brake cables and cranks/bottom brackets etc come to mind... A lot of bike maintenance or bike work really isn't all that hard once you know a thing or two about the specific process being looked at. While some laugh and say that's true of anything, the understanding really can come fast here. The first time with something might take an hour, but from then on it'll be 5 minutes or less for quite a few things. And some things do take the right tool. A few spots on the bike just can't be done without them. Fortunately, just a few allen wrenches will take care of the majority of things. |
| 2013-08-13 8:52 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
| Payson, AZ | Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... Originally posted by brigby1 A lot of bike maintenance or bike work really isn't all that hard once you know a thing or two about the specific process being looked at. While some laugh and say that's true of anything, the understanding really can come fast here. The first time with something might take an hour, but from then on it'll be 5 minutes or less for quite a few things. And some things do take the right tool. A few spots on the bike just can't be done without them. Fortunately, just a few allen wrenches will take care of the majority of things. I can pretty much hold my own when it comes to bike maintenance. Your right though, the first time doing anything new can take a while and then after that it just gets easier and quicker. I have learned though that if you are going to replace your cabling you simply must note how how goes before you haul it out. Pictures are necessary (hand drawn or with a camera). My new bike brings me to new territory though. Lots more to mess with on a full suspension. Hell, I still have to figure out the various settings on both the front and rear. My old bike was a hard tail and the front was just "there". No settings on it |
 2013-08-13 9:01 AM in reply to: axteraa |
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| 2013-08-13 11:10 AM in reply to: TSimone |
| Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... I agree that wrenching isn't as hard as it seems. The hardest part is simply knowing how hard to tighten things such as bolts, cables, etc. The actual mechanics of a bike is very elementary. It's not like putting together an ipad or anything. The one thing I want to learn is how to recable on my own. But since I don't have a spool of cable or housing lying around yet, I'm still forced to take my bike in. |
| 2013-08-13 2:42 PM in reply to: Jason N |
| Subject: RE: Hello all -- I'm going to try this again... I thought I was the sh*t when you al helped me change my first cassette. But since i learned the PT hub pops right off, I haven't even been doing that. At least I am not as bad as my training partner who has his mechanic put on new tires and the garmin quick release thingy  |
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