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Fit preference I suppose.  Cobb does have a 90 day return policy (I think it's 90 days) so you could always try it out and return it if you don't like it. 

If you liked the Adamo and could do an IM "comfortably" on one I would probably stick with that.

***********equipment question***********

Not that I NEED a new watch, but here's the situation.  I have a Garmin 305 that originally worked great as my bike/run computer.  We have evolved in our equipment accumulation that I am interested in just a running watch.  I mainly track distance and speed.  I want something less bulky than the 305.  Any recommendations? 

P.S.  I'm willing to give up the double watch look.

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From his review the 110 might work for you.

I've been riding the Adamo since I got it from Andy. It took a bit of tweaking but was pretty decent for the 3 years.

 Not that I want to mess with success, but man those are expensive to buy new.  

This is a can of worms opening... but  Cobb vs Adamo?

Agree, especially if the ultra group will be running on trails and you're used to running on the road (don't know if that's the case). Have fun!

Need rational thinking advice regarding bikes.

I am in the market for a new road bike.

The part of me that goes on group rides and wants the latest technology, really wants a high end bike, Specialized Venge, Cervelo S5, maybe Madone 5.9 with Ultegra Di2.

The part of me that races 10-15 crit's a year where I see people crash often enough thinks I should get a bike with a much lower replacement value.

Time spent on bike training/just riding around = 98% or more, time spent racing

I've actually met guys that own zipp's but are afraid to race on them and only bring them out for training/group rides and race on POS box rims.  I don't want to be that guy.

Given that initial purchase price isn't as much of a factor as getting the bike I want  vs. replacing that initial purchase would be very, very difficult, which way would you go?

I've been riding the Adamo since I got it from Andy. It took a bit of tweaking but was pretty decent for the 3 years.

 Not that I want to mess with success, but man those are expensive to buy new.  

This is a can of worms opening... but  Cobb vs Adamo?

Sorry, responding to my own post, but more fuel for thought.

Just did a search on best crit bikes.

Responses in forums ranged from, bike you wouldn't care if it got run over by a car to posts like this.

Guys crash in road races, group rides, multi-sport events, and JRA solo. Any bike you buy has the potential to be damaged in a crash regardless of whether you race crits or not. I think folks way overstate the "danger" of crits and certainly the amount of broken/totalled frames. Sure it happens but it's not wholesale carnage every week. Then again, that's only my opinion though after more than a decade of racing a ton of crits any way.

Need rational thinking advice regarding bikes.

I am in the market for a new road bike.

The part of me that goes on group rides and wants the latest technology, really wants a high end bike, Specialized Venge, Cervelo S5, maybe Madone 5.9 with Ultegra Di2.

The part of me that races 10-15 crit's a year where I see people crash often enough thinks I should get a bike with a much lower replacement value.

Time spent on bike training/just riding around = 98% or more, time spent racing

I've actually met guys that own zipp's but are afraid to race on them and only bring them out for training/group rides and race on POS box rims.  I don't want to be that guy.

Given that initial purchase price isn't as much of a factor as getting the bike I want  vs. replacing that initial purchase would be very, very difficult, which way would you go?

DI2- Too many things can go wrong mechanically, and most of the time it is not a quick easy fix.  I get it if you have a full time mechanic but my 2 bits is it's not worth it....

I'll be curious to see what the responses are. I am currently looking at the Garmin FR 110 for my husband, who "only" runs.

Simultaneously trying to figure out how I could justify a 910xt, but really, there just isn't a way... yet!!

From my limited experience of having both Doug and some friends crash (both on road and from cross racing)  the expense from crashes isn't replacing the frames - its the components.  Of all the crashes no one really damaged the frame but replacing the shifters and a derailleur 2x in one season gets very expensive.   So is it the expense of the frame you are concerned with or the complete package upgrade?

First, can you really put a price on comfort down there?  Anywho, just wanted to chime in to say that I ride Adamo race on the TT bike and Adamo Peloton on the Road bike.  There is a difference between the two even though they look almost the same.  By design the Peloton allows me to unload my arms more than the Race which obviously is needed on my Roadie.  Love em both for different reasons.  Just wanted to point out that the different Adamo products are in fact different, so make sure you stick with what works.  

Secondly, I know the Adamo is actually a John Cobb design.  There have been many blogs about how both the seats are really the same design at heart, the Cobb just has the nose closed so he could get around his patent with Adamo.  But, you (and I know Doug) would be able to explain that much better than I.  

Just my $.02

Oh, the (are_those_thigh_muscles.jpg) picture!  Now I know why you beat your Husband!  

From my limited experience of having both Doug and some friends crash (both on road and from cross racing)  the expense from crashes isn't replacing the frames - its the components.  Of all the crashes no one really damaged the frame but replacing the shifters and a derailleur 2x in one season gets very expensive.   So is it the expense of the frame you are concerned with or the complete package upgrade?

Need rational thinking advice regarding bikes.

I am in the market for a new road bike.

The part of me that goes on group rides and wants the latest technology, really wants a high end bike, Specialized Venge, Cervelo S5, maybe Madone 5.9 with Ultegra Di2.

The part of me that races 10-15 crit's a year where I see people crash often enough thinks I should get a bike with a much lower replacement value.

Time spent on bike training/just riding around = 98% or more, time spent racing

I've actually met guys that own zipp's but are afraid to race on them and only bring them out for training/group rides and race on POS box rims.  I don't want to be that guy.

Given that initial purchase price isn't as much of a factor as getting the bike I want  vs. replacing that initial purchase would be very, very difficult, which way would you go?

***********equipment question***********

Not that I NEED a new watch, but here's the situation.  I have a Garmin 305 that originally worked great as my bike/run computer.  We have evolved in our equipment accumulation that I am interested in just a running watch.  I mainly track distance and speed.  I want something less bulky than the 305.  Any recommendations? 

P.S.  I'm willing to give up the double watch look.

ouch, john.

speaking of wrist strap extensions, is there one for the 310xt like the velcro one for the 305?  Or could I use the same one?   Suzy?  where are you?????  we miss you???????????!

Sorry, rereading my post, it really didn't make sense.

My wrist is too small for the watch band that came with my 305 (hard plastic), so I bought the one that came with the quick release (velcro) and was wondering if they had the same thing for the 310xt.  Apparently they do. 

Now, I'm asking whether the strap I have for the 305 will work for the 310.  Since Trevor posted, I have looked at it online but it's not clear if it would work for both.  Or would I have to buy a whole new one (although not too expensive).  It looks like maybe a new one, since the mount looks like a different style. 

check this out.  looks like it should work.  also other options posted.

Sorry, rereading my post, it really didn't make sense.

My wrist is too small for the watch band that came with my 305 (hard plastic), so I bought the one that came with the quick release (velcro) and was wondering if they had the same thing for the 310xt.  Apparently they do. 

Now, I'm asking whether the strap I have for the 305 will work for the 310.  Since Trevor posted, I have looked at it online but it's not clear if it would work for both.  Or would I have to buy a whole new one (although not too expensive).  It looks like maybe a new one, since the mount looks like a different style.