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 2014-04-01 9:24 AM in reply to: ChrisM |
Veteran  2842     Austin, Texas |  Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!!Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by brigby1 Yes, WTC owns each of the trademarks on that page Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Originally posted by brigby1 But only WTC branded ones, right? Or does 70.3 necessarily mean WTC (iirc, they trademarked the number)?Silly branding! Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by Asalzwed Are all races considered qualifiers or just certain races? All 70.3s have 70.3 WC slots The amounts can vary, but yes. Yes, it's only WTC ones. Their championship, so their races. I believe they did trademark the term "70.3" (here), but maybe Chris could clarify if it is or is in the application stage. Just typed the below and realized it turned from a comment into a mini-rant, so please ignore at will. This horse has probably been down at the curb and kicked thoroughly in the past, so apologies if this is very old hat to y'all, but "GRACE" and "70.3" seem beyond the pale to me. If one cannot use their trademarks in reference to a race in whole or in part, I'd think you'd have to get terribly cute as a RD/promoter even to say how long a non-WTC course is (70.5 miles - 0.2 miles = this course's length). It's only when these things get silly (to me - I realize that is a very relative metric!) that I take issue, as their trademarks then also force people into using the WTC suggested wording ("long distance" or "half distance" - who knows what we should call sprints… "why bother" distance, apparently. ARGH, short course is legit, and WTC's strategy helps WTC but hurts the sport, IMO, by de-legitimizing short course in a subtle yet real way).
I have no issue with most of the trademarks - it's a business, they trademarked the terms and use them… all good. It's just the couple outliers that bother me (I don't see how they got 70.3 trademarked in the first instance). As to "long" versus "half distance" races, I sure felt like I ran a full race in my one and only HIM (it was a WTC event, so I should be able to use HIM, but I suspect I need permission first - ruh roh). OK, I'll stop now. Matt
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(it's still about s/b/r, though)| 2014-04-01 9:57 AM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Master 2912 ...at home in The ATL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! WOW Adrienne - just read your RR - what a race!!! Sounds like you plaid your cards perfectly - you have to take great great confidence not only in the fact that you are a national-level runner, but more importantly you are getting to know yourself very, very well. While in a different context, we often talk to our students about the importance of understanding and utilizing where their own motivations lie. For example, when it comes to their relationship to the evaluation of their work it is important for them to understand whether they perceive themselves as an "offensive" or "defensive" player. In other words it is important for them to be really, really clear whether they (in their minds) start each semester with zero points or one hundred points. It doesn't really matter in which camp they find themselves, but we have found that simply knowing whether you are motivated offensively ("I begin with zero points and I have to work hard to earn 100") or defensively ("I begin with 100 points and I have to work hard to protect them") is EXTREMELY valuable in how you pace yourself through your work. I would consider running from the back to be in the offensive camp, and it is certainly within that mindset where my own motivations lie. So I too am enamored and fascinated more so (as you clearly are with your teammate) with those whose brains/motivations work otherwise - we stand a lot to learn from those who think/work differently from ourselves. Now that you have hit the qualifying standard (and once you get through Boston) would you ever consider challenging yourself to tackle the distance differently, even knowing that you might fail? |
| 2014-04-01 10:12 AM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Master 2912 ...at home in The ATL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by brigby1 Yes, WTC owns each of the trademarks on that page Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Originally posted by brigby1 But only WTC branded ones, right? Or does 70.3 necessarily mean WTC (iirc, they trademarked the number)?Silly branding! Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by Asalzwed Are all races considered qualifiers or just certain races? All 70.3s have 70.3 WC slots The amounts can vary, but yes. Yes, it's only WTC ones. Their championship, so their races. I believe they did trademark the term "70.3" (here), but maybe Chris could clarify if it is or is in the application stage. Just typed the below and realized it turned from a comment into a mini-rant, so please ignore at will. This horse has probably been down at the curb and kicked thoroughly in the past, so apologies if this is very old hat to y'all, but "GRACE" and "70.3" seem beyond the pale to me. If one cannot use their trademarks in reference to a race in whole or in part, I'd think you'd have to get terribly cute as a RD/promoter even to say how long a non-WTC course is (70.5 miles - 0.2 miles = this course's length). It's only when these things get silly (to me - I realize that is a very relative metric!) that I take issue, as their trademarks then also force people into using the WTC suggested wording ("long distance" or "half distance" - who knows what we should call sprints… "why bother" distance, apparently. ARGH, short course is legit, and WTC's strategy helps WTC but hurts the sport, IMO, by de-legitimizing short course in a subtle yet real way).
I have no issue with most of the trademarks - it's a business, they trademarked the terms and use them… all good. It's just the couple outliers that bother me (I don't see how they got 70.3 trademarked in the first instance). As to "long" versus "half distance" races, I sure felt like I ran a full race in my one and only HIM (it was a WTC event, so I should be able to use HIM, but I suspect I need permission first - ruh roh). OK, I'll stop now. Matt
Matt - I don't get too worked up about it (life is simply WAY too short) but lord knows there are plenty that do: I mean what do I call myself if I don't do a WTC race? And even more importantly what kind of tattoo do I get??? I will say from a conversation that I had several years ago with a local RD who got the ol' "Cease and Desist" letter from WTC for using the Ironman name in their race (never mind that they had used it for years) that it seemed that WTC was more concerned about the word "Man" than they were the word "Iron." So they stayed after them as long as they tried to use the "Insert-Your-Favorite-Chemical-Element-Man", but backed off when the RD instead started using the phrase "Iron Distance" in the race description. Strange and fascinating how this stuff works. |
| 2014-04-01 10:29 AM in reply to: TankBoy |
Master 2912 ...at home in The ATL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! A few days ago I FINALLY got a little insight in how our brethren in the Great White North make it through all the months and months of cold, dark, wintery training. I found myself struggling mightily through a tough set of overgear intervals on the trainer. I simply could not clear my mind from some particularly shytty work stuff and really wanted to be anywhere else but the ergo, and really just could not get committed to the work that lay before me. So, very uncharacteristically and in a fit of desperation I reached over to the media controller and somehow managed to punch "random play" in iTunes. Immediately Geddy Lee began to belt out the lyrics to "Working Man" which I had not heard in YEARS. OH, CANADA! While I am certainly exposing myself as an unabashed child of the 70s, I am in no way embarrassed to say that I cannot imagine that there has ever been a better overgear ballad recorded before, or since. So I am on to your dirty training tricks, Canucks - I am POSITIVE that it is your steady diet of Rush and Poutine that sustains you through the dismal, dark months of winter.
Oh, wait. PLEASE god tell me it isn't Celine Dion.... |
| 2014-04-01 12:10 PM in reply to: TankBoy |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by TankBoy WOW Adrienne - just read your RR - what a race!!! Sounds like you plaid your cards perfectly - you have to take great great confidence not only in the fact that you are a national-level runner, but more importantly you are getting to know yourself very, very well. While in a different context, we often talk to our students about the importance of understanding and utilizing where their own motivations lie. For example, when it comes to their relationship to the evaluation of their work it is important for them to understand whether they perceive themselves as an "offensive" or "defensive" player. In other words it is important for them to be really, really clear whether they (in their minds) start each semester with zero points or one hundred points. It doesn't really matter in which camp they find themselves, but we have found that simply knowing whether you are motivated offensively ("I begin with zero points and I have to work hard to earn 100") or defensively ("I begin with 100 points and I have to work hard to protect them") is EXTREMELY valuable in how you pace yourself through your work. I would consider running from the back to be in the offensive camp, and it is certainly within that mindset where my own motivations lie. So I too am enamored and fascinated more so (as you clearly are with your teammate) with those whose brains/motivations work otherwise - we stand a lot to learn from those who think/work differently from ourselves. Now that you have hit the qualifying standard (and once you get through Boston) would you ever consider challenging yourself to tackle the distance differently, even knowing that you might fail? Great stuff Rusty. And a great question. There is a lot to be considered. I most definitely want to run A race, or maybe even a series of races where I go out fast and try and hang on. I know that I am tougher physically/mentally than I think I am (likely all of us are. Except didn't one of you black out during a race? Whomever that is might have this figured out ) If I ever want to truly be competitive, I need to find that edge and go over it once or twice. I haven't been able to yet. But alas, I've discovered this wonderful world of running where there are road races, track races, cross country and ultra-running and I want to do it all! So, I need to really think about my goals and be sure to establish some ground rules because I could easily see myself going down a rabbit hole and not really having any focus (ie I spent a little time researching the steeplechase yesterday, hmmmmmm...) OR I need to throw the goals out the window and just do whatever I feel like, being ok knowing I might not ever "get anywhere." I could just see myself spending half a year experimenting with different racing styles at one distance. Ya know?
Anyway, TL;DR: I will absolutely challenge myself to toy with a variety of racing styles. |
| 2014-04-01 12:16 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Master 6834  Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by TankBoy WOW Adrienne - just read your RR - what a race!!! Sounds like you plaid your cards perfectly - you have to take great great confidence not only in the fact that you are a national-level runner, but more importantly you are getting to know yourself very, very well. While in a different context, we often talk to our students about the importance of understanding and utilizing where their own motivations lie. For example, when it comes to their relationship to the evaluation of their work it is important for them to understand whether they perceive themselves as an "offensive" or "defensive" player. In other words it is important for them to be really, really clear whether they (in their minds) start each semester with zero points or one hundred points. It doesn't really matter in which camp they find themselves, but we have found that simply knowing whether you are motivated offensively ("I begin with zero points and I have to work hard to earn 100") or defensively ("I begin with 100 points and I have to work hard to protect them") is EXTREMELY valuable in how you pace yourself through your work. I would consider running from the back to be in the offensive camp, and it is certainly within that mindset where my own motivations lie. So I too am enamored and fascinated more so (as you clearly are with your teammate) with those whose brains/motivations work otherwise - we stand a lot to learn from those who think/work differently from ourselves. Now that you have hit the qualifying standard (and once you get through Boston) would you ever consider challenging yourself to tackle the distance differently, even knowing that you might fail? Great stuff Rusty. And a great question. There is a lot to be considered. I most definitely want to run A race, or maybe even a series of races where I go out fast and try and hang on. I know that I am tougher physically/mentally than I think I am (likely all of us are. Except didn't one of you black out during a race? Whomever that is might have this figured out ) If I ever want to truly be competitive, I need to find that edge and go over it once or twice. I haven't been able to yet. But alas, I've discovered this wonderful world of running where there are road races, track races, cross country and ultra-running and I want to do it all! So, I need to really think about my goals and be sure to establish some ground rules because I could easily see myself going down a rabbit hole and not really having any focus (ie I spent a little time researching the steeplechase yesterday, hmmmmmm...) OR I need to throw the goals out the window and just do whatever I feel like, being ok knowing I might not ever "get anywhere." I could just see myself spending half a year experimenting with different racing styles at one distance. Ya know? Anyway, TL;DR: I will absolutely challenge myself to toy with a variety of racing styles. You have a whole lifetime to decide, so maybe you'll try it all. |
| 2014-04-01 3:51 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Pro 4528 Norwalk, Connecticut | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Asalzwed And here is my RACE REPORT Knew you were plenty fast to get there, just a question of having the energy that day with all the mileage. Also, on the positive thinking part, I think you still were late in there as you gave yourself something to do. Your thought was "go to work ... " instead of "don't be a ...", which makes a difference to me as the first gives you something to go after instead of trying to avoid. Things aren't always cheerful, but to me it's really something to note. I do much better as well with a target to chase. May be another reason I like to start off a little easier too. Thanks, Ben. Yeah, under normal circumstances I wouldn't have really worried about that standard. It isn't TOO tough. But trying to multi-task a workout AND hitting the standard was where I was getting a little overwhelmed. Interesting comment about the chase, too. I was trying to think exactly why I like a more negative split approach. I know it's not the BEST way to race but there is something really comforting about starting easy then "going to work" especially, as you said, when there is someone to chase. * ALSO, I am not quite touch enough (yet) to go out too fast and still salvage a good race out of it. I have a lot to learn about running on the track though
I didn't realize it til the end but think I was holding my breath while reading the report (even tho I knew how it ended.....). Now I'm tired Yes...great report. Even made me think about going for a run...almost. I was tired writing it. But then again, I'm 30 now so that must be it.
You should run, I rode my bike on Friday! geez, before you know it people in this group might start doing triathalons and whatnot! whats a triathalon??? |
I imagine it's a lot like doing swim meets. | 2014-04-01 3:56 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Pro 4528 Norwalk, Connecticut | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by TankBoy WOW Adrienne - just read your RR - what a race!!! Sounds like you plaid your cards perfectly - you have to take great great confidence not only in the fact that you are a national-level runner, but more importantly you are getting to know yourself very, very well. While in a different context, we often talk to our students about the importance of understanding and utilizing where their own motivations lie. For example, when it comes to their relationship to the evaluation of their work it is important for them to understand whether they perceive themselves as an "offensive" or "defensive" player. In other words it is important for them to be really, really clear whether they (in their minds) start each semester with zero points or one hundred points. It doesn't really matter in which camp they find themselves, but we have found that simply knowing whether you are motivated offensively ("I begin with zero points and I have to work hard to earn 100") or defensively ("I begin with 100 points and I have to work hard to protect them") is EXTREMELY valuable in how you pace yourself through your work. I would consider running from the back to be in the offensive camp, and it is certainly within that mindset where my own motivations lie. So I too am enamored and fascinated more so (as you clearly are with your teammate) with those whose brains/motivations work otherwise - we stand a lot to learn from those who think/work differently from ourselves. Now that you have hit the qualifying standard (and once you get through Boston) would you ever consider challenging yourself to tackle the distance differently, even knowing that you might fail? Great stuff Rusty. And a great question. There is a lot to be considered. I most definitely want to run A race, or maybe even a series of races where I go out fast and try and hang on. I know that I am tougher physically/mentally than I think I am (likely all of us are. Except didn't one of you black out during a race? Whomever that is might have this figured out ) If I ever want to truly be competitive, I need to find that edge and go over it once or twice. I haven't been able to yet. But alas, I've discovered this wonderful world of running where there are road races, track races, cross country and ultra-running and I want to do it all! So, I need to really think about my goals and be sure to establish some ground rules because I could easily see myself going down a rabbit hole and not really having any focus (ie I spent a little time researching the steeplechase yesterday, hmmmmmm...) OR I need to throw the goals out the window and just do whatever I feel like, being ok knowing I might not ever "get anywhere." I could just see myself spending half a year experimenting with different racing styles at one distance. Ya know?
Anyway, TL;DR: I will absolutely challenge myself to toy with a variety of racing styles. you love running like i love cycling, that is really cool to see. I want to race all kinds of disciplines on a bike, Road, Crit, Mountain, Cross, Track. doesnt matter, if it has wheels, i wanna build one and go race it!! Wish i was 20 years younger with my current salary. |
| 2014-04-01 5:05 PM in reply to: Rudedog55 |
| Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by Rudedog55 Originally posted by ChrisM whats a triathalon??? Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Asalzwed And here is my RACE REPORT Knew you were plenty fast to get there, just a question of having the energy that day with all the mileage. Also, on the positive thinking part, I think you still were late in there as you gave yourself something to do. Your thought was "go to work ... " instead of "don't be a ...", which makes a difference to me as the first gives you something to go after instead of trying to avoid. Things aren't always cheerful, but to me it's really something to note. I do much better as well with a target to chase. May be another reason I like to start off a little easier too. Thanks, Ben. Yeah, under normal circumstances I wouldn't have really worried about that standard. It isn't TOO tough. But trying to multi-task a workout AND hitting the standard was where I was getting a little overwhelmed. Interesting comment about the chase, too. I was trying to think exactly why I like a more negative split approach. I know it's not the BEST way to race but there is something really comforting about starting easy then "going to work" especially, as you said, when there is someone to chase. * ALSO, I am not quite touch enough (yet) to go out too fast and still salvage a good race out of it. I have a lot to learn about running on the track though
I didn't realize it til the end but think I was holding my breath while reading the report (even tho I knew how it ended.....). Now I'm tired Yes...great report. Even made me think about going for a run...almost. I was tired writing it. But then again, I'm 30 now so that must be it.
You should run, I rode my bike on Friday! geez, before you know it people in this group might start doing triathalons and whatnot! you know, that thing where you doggie paddle, hammer at 420 W then suffer through a run/walk???? |
| 2014-04-02 6:26 AM in reply to: ChrisM |
Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! geez, before you know it people in this group might start doing triathalons and whatnot! whats a triathalon??? you know, that thing where you doggie paddle, hammer at 420 W then suffer through a run/walk????
OK due to the lack of sarcastic font. I just wanted to reassure everybody that this badazz Triathlete is still here. Matter of fact yesterday I did a 3700 yd swim 37 mile bike and a 6 mile run. Of course I won and won my age group.
So take that slackers.........It pay’s to be a Triathlete…….
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| 2014-04-02 6:45 AM in reply to: BrotherTri |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Yeah but you did it in the wrong order! It's funny, you call 3700 feet of climbing in 37 miles "Hilly", I consider that downright mountainous! I spent 3 hours yesterday clearing snow after yet another storm... |
| 2014-04-02 6:57 AM in reply to: axteraa |
Master 2621 Mechanicsburg, PA | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by axteraa Yeah but you did it in the wrong order! It's funny, you call 3700 feet of climbing in 37 miles "Hilly", I consider that downright mountainous! I spent 3 hours yesterday clearing snow after yet another storm...
Oooops! That was 2700ft climbing.....
3 hr in the snow + your training = a solid day! That's almost a long brick.
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| 2014-04-02 7:34 AM in reply to: BrotherTri |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by BrotherTri geez, before you know it people in this group might start doing triathalons and whatnot! whats a triathalon??? you know, that thing where you doggie paddle, hammer at 420 W then suffer through a run/walk????
OK due to the lack of sarcastic font. I just wanted to reassure everybody that this badazz Triathlete is still here. Matter of fact yesterday I did a 3700 yd swim 37 mile bike and a 6 mile run. Of course I won and won my age group.
So take that slackers.........It pay’s to be a Triathlete…….
A REAL triathlete would just call that a rest day. Solid effort - when's the first race (with other people)? Matt |
| 2014-04-02 9:46 AM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Master 2411 Goodyear, AZ | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Hey guys! I got a nice note from Rusty on my Strava page. He says you guys are still alive and kicking over here. I used to post here a long time ago. Just read through a few pages and see that I still know a few people on here. I haven't been around BT since last year. I did a Tri last spring and then decided to focus on cycling. I got a road bike, joined a team and start racing in January. Our cycling season starts early here in AZ. I've raced a couple of road races, a stage race but most of the racing around here is crits. I went from a Cat 4 to a Cat 2 in a couple of months and really enjoy bike racing! We just had the state crit last weekend and I was able to win the Masters race. Most of my races from now on will be in the Pro 1/2 field so it's going to be a lot harder. I'm sure I will get back into Triathlon one day. Right now I'm finding it easier to just do one sport. I don't miss swimming but I do miss running! I sold my Tri bike to buy a mountain bike, so that will be my next adventure! Good luck with your races! I'm going to be better at checking back in. I love reading race reports! Cheers! Sally |
| 2014-04-02 9:51 AM in reply to: sallya |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by sallya Hey guys! I got a nice note from Rusty on my Strava page. He says you guys are still alive and kicking over here. I used to post here a long time ago. Just read through a few pages and see that I still know a few people on here. I haven't been around BT since last year. I did a Tri last spring and then decided to focus on cycling. I got a road bike, joined a team and start racing in January. Our cycling season starts early here in AZ. I've raced a couple of road races, a stage race but most of the racing around here is crits. I went from a Cat 4 to a Cat 2 in a couple of months and really enjoy bike racing! We just had the state crit last weekend and I was able to win the Masters race. Most of my races from now on will be in the Pro 1/2 field so it's going to be a lot harder. I'm sure I will get back into Triathlon one day. Right now I'm finding it easier to just do one sport. I don't miss swimming but I do miss running! I sold my Tri bike to buy a mountain bike, so that will be my next adventure! Good luck with your races! I'm going to be better at checking back in. I love reading race reports! Cheers! Sally Hi Sally, nice to hear from you. Seeing the races and rides you've posted on Strava is impressive! |
| 2014-04-02 10:13 AM in reply to: sallya |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by sallya Hey guys! I got a nice note from Rusty on my Strava page. He says you guys are still alive and kicking over here. I used to post here a long time ago. Just read through a few pages and see that I still know a few people on here. I haven't been around BT since last year. I did a Tri last spring and then decided to focus on cycling. I got a road bike, joined a team and start racing in January. Our cycling season starts early here in AZ. I've raced a couple of road races, a stage race but most of the racing around here is crits. I went from a Cat 4 to a Cat 2 in a couple of months and really enjoy bike racing! We just had the state crit last weekend and I was able to win the Masters race. Most of my races from now on will be in the Pro 1/2 field so it's going to be a lot harder. I'm sure I will get back into Triathlon one day. Right now I'm finding it easier to just do one sport. I don't miss swimming but I do miss running! I sold my Tri bike to buy a mountain bike, so that will be my next adventure! Good luck with your races! I'm going to be better at checking back in. I love reading race reports! Cheers! Sally Nice to hear from you again, Sally! |
| 2014-04-02 11:27 AM in reply to: sallya |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by sallya Hey guys! I got a nice note from Rusty on my Strava page. He says you guys are still alive and kicking over here. I used to post here a long time ago. Just read through a few pages and see that I still know a few people on here. I haven't been around BT since last year. I did a Tri last spring and then decided to focus on cycling. I got a road bike, joined a team and start racing in January. Our cycling season starts early here in AZ. I've raced a couple of road races, a stage race but most of the racing around here is crits. I went from a Cat 4 to a Cat 2 in a couple of months and really enjoy bike racing! We just had the state crit last weekend and I was able to win the Masters race. Most of my races from now on will be in the Pro 1/2 field so it's going to be a lot harder. I'm sure I will get back into Triathlon one day. Right now I'm finding it easier to just do one sport. I don't miss swimming but I do miss running! I sold my Tri bike to buy a mountain bike, so that will be my next adventure! Good luck with your races! I'm going to be better at checking back in. I love reading race reports! Cheers! Sally Hey Sally! Welcome (back!) Looks like you fit right in here as a few of us are doing single sport focus. |
| 2014-04-02 12:44 PM in reply to: ChrisM |
Pro 4528 Norwalk, Connecticut | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by Rudedog55 Originally posted by ChrisM whats a triathalon??? Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by ChrisM Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Asalzwed And here is my RACE REPORT Knew you were plenty fast to get there, just a question of having the energy that day with all the mileage. Also, on the positive thinking part, I think you still were late in there as you gave yourself something to do. Your thought was "go to work ... " instead of "don't be a ...", which makes a difference to me as the first gives you something to go after instead of trying to avoid. Things aren't always cheerful, but to me it's really something to note. I do much better as well with a target to chase. May be another reason I like to start off a little easier too. Thanks, Ben. Yeah, under normal circumstances I wouldn't have really worried about that standard. It isn't TOO tough. But trying to multi-task a workout AND hitting the standard was where I was getting a little overwhelmed. Interesting comment about the chase, too. I was trying to think exactly why I like a more negative split approach. I know it's not the BEST way to race but there is something really comforting about starting easy then "going to work" especially, as you said, when there is someone to chase. * ALSO, I am not quite touch enough (yet) to go out too fast and still salvage a good race out of it. I have a lot to learn about running on the track though
I didn't realize it til the end but think I was holding my breath while reading the report (even tho I knew how it ended.....). Now I'm tired Yes...great report. Even made me think about going for a run...almost. I was tired writing it. But then again, I'm 30 now so that must be it.
You should run, I rode my bike on Friday! geez, before you know it people in this group might start doing triathalons and whatnot! you know, that thing where you doggie paddle, hammer at 420 W then suffer through a run/walk???? i love suffering lol |
| 2014-04-02 12:49 PM in reply to: sallya |
Pro 4528 Norwalk, Connecticut | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by sallya Hey guys! I got a nice note from Rusty on my Strava page. He says you guys are still alive and kicking over here. I used to post here a long time ago. Just read through a few pages and see that I still know a few people on here. I haven't been around BT since last year. I did a Tri last spring and then decided to focus on cycling. I got a road bike, joined a team and start racing in January. Our cycling season starts early here in AZ. I've raced a couple of road races, a stage race but most of the racing around here is crits. I went from a Cat 4 to a Cat 2 in a couple of months and really enjoy bike racing! We just had the state crit last weekend and I was able to win the Masters race. Most of my races from now on will be in the Pro 1/2 field so it's going to be a lot harder. I'm sure I will get back into Triathlon one day. Right now I'm finding it easier to just do one sport. I don't miss swimming but I do miss running! I sold my Tri bike to buy a mountain bike, so that will be my next adventure! Good luck with your races! I'm going to be better at checking back in. I love reading race reports! Cheers! Sally hi fellow bike racer!!!! i think if u like running and riding you should check out Cyclocross!!! its the best of both worlds and has beer!!!!!!! |
| 2014-04-02 1:03 PM in reply to: Rudedog55 |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by Rudedog55 Originally posted by sallya hi fellow bike racer!!!! i think if u like running and riding you should check out Cyclocross!!! its the best of both worlds and has beer!!!!!!! Hey guys! I got a nice note from Rusty on my Strava page. He says you guys are still alive and kicking over here. I used to post here a long time ago. Just read through a few pages and see that I still know a few people on here. I haven't been around BT since last year. I did a Tri last spring and then decided to focus on cycling. I got a road bike, joined a team and start racing in January. Our cycling season starts early here in AZ. I've raced a couple of road races, a stage race but most of the racing around here is crits. I went from a Cat 4 to a Cat 2 in a couple of months and really enjoy bike racing! We just had the state crit last weekend and I was able to win the Masters race. Most of my races from now on will be in the Pro 1/2 field so it's going to be a lot harder. I'm sure I will get back into Triathlon one day. Right now I'm finding it easier to just do one sport. I don't miss swimming but I do miss running! I sold my Tri bike to buy a mountain bike, so that will be my next adventure! Good luck with your races! I'm going to be better at checking back in. I love reading race reports! Cheers! Sally Say what? I actually really want to try cyclocross as well. Can a beginner use a regular road bike or do you really need the extra clearance no matter what? |
| 2014-04-02 1:19 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 4528 Norwalk, Connecticut | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by Rudedog55 Originally posted by sallya hi fellow bike racer!!!! i think if u like running and riding you should check out Cyclocross!!! its the best of both worlds and has beer!!!!!!! Hey guys! I got a nice note from Rusty on my Strava page. He says you guys are still alive and kicking over here. I used to post here a long time ago. Just read through a few pages and see that I still know a few people on here. I haven't been around BT since last year. I did a Tri last spring and then decided to focus on cycling. I got a road bike, joined a team and start racing in January. Our cycling season starts early here in AZ. I've raced a couple of road races, a stage race but most of the racing around here is crits. I went from a Cat 4 to a Cat 2 in a couple of months and really enjoy bike racing! We just had the state crit last weekend and I was able to win the Masters race. Most of my races from now on will be in the Pro 1/2 field so it's going to be a lot harder. I'm sure I will get back into Triathlon one day. Right now I'm finding it easier to just do one sport. I don't miss swimming but I do miss running! I sold my Tri bike to buy a mountain bike, so that will be my next adventure! Good luck with your races! I'm going to be better at checking back in. I love reading race reports! Cheers! Sally Say what? I actually really want to try cyclocross as well. Can a beginner use a regular road bike or do you really need the extra clearance no matter what? you would be better served to borrow someones mountain bike, just make sure to remove the bar ends if it has them. You would never get enough clearance or traction with a road bike and the gearing would prolly not help either. you are pac nw??? There is an awesome cross scene up there!!! the three hotbeds are the Pac NW, New England and Boulder, CO area, not to much in the south yet, but its catching on. Edited by Rudedog55 2014-04-02 1:21 PM |
| 2014-04-02 2:16 PM in reply to: sallya |
| Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by sallya Hey guys! I got a nice note from Rusty on my Strava page. He says you guys are still alive and kicking over here. I used to post here a long time ago. Just read through a few pages and see that I still know a few people on here. I haven't been around BT since last year. I did a Tri last spring and then decided to focus on cycling. I got a road bike, joined a team and start racing in January. Our cycling season starts early here in AZ. I've raced a couple of road races, a stage race but most of the racing around here is crits. I went from a Cat 4 to a Cat 2 in a couple of months and really enjoy bike racing! We just had the state crit last weekend and I was able to win the Masters race. Most of my races from now on will be in the Pro 1/2 field so it's going to be a lot harder. I'm sure I will get back into Triathlon one day. Right now I'm finding it easier to just do one sport. I don't miss swimming but I do miss running! I sold my Tri bike to buy a mountain bike, so that will be my next adventure! Good luck with your races! I'm going to be better at checking back in. I love reading race reports! Cheers! Sally Hey Sally. Great to hear you're enjoying bike racing and congrats on the state championship. I too am focusing on bike racing this year and love it. |
| 2014-04-02 2:17 PM in reply to: Rudedog55 |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by Rudedog55 Originally posted by Asalzwed you would be better served to borrow someones mountain bike, just make sure to remove the bar ends if it has them. You would never get enough clearance or traction with a road bike and the gearing would prolly not help either. you are pac nw??? There is an awesome cross scene up there!!! the three hotbeds are the Pac NW, New England and Boulder, CO area, not to much in the south yet, but its catching on. Originally posted by Rudedog55 Originally posted by sallya hi fellow bike racer!!!! i think if u like running and riding you should check out Cyclocross!!! its the best of both worlds and has beer!!!!!!! Hey guys! I got a nice note from Rusty on my Strava page. He says you guys are still alive and kicking over here. I used to post here a long time ago. Just read through a few pages and see that I still know a few people on here. I haven't been around BT since last year. I did a Tri last spring and then decided to focus on cycling. I got a road bike, joined a team and start racing in January. Our cycling season starts early here in AZ. I've raced a couple of road races, a stage race but most of the racing around here is crits. I went from a Cat 4 to a Cat 2 in a couple of months and really enjoy bike racing! We just had the state crit last weekend and I was able to win the Masters race. Most of my races from now on will be in the Pro 1/2 field so it's going to be a lot harder. I'm sure I will get back into Triathlon one day. Right now I'm finding it easier to just do one sport. I don't miss swimming but I do miss running! I sold my Tri bike to buy a mountain bike, so that will be my next adventure! Good luck with your races! I'm going to be better at checking back in. I love reading race reports! Cheers! Sally Say what? I actually really want to try cyclocross as well. Can a beginner use a regular road bike or do you really need the extra clearance no matter what? Ah, I didn't think abou the gearing. Duh. That shows what kind of a cyclist I am I know there is a really big community here for sure. I just don't know much about it. I might dabble a bit. Thinking about taking the track class at the velodrome, too. |
| 2014-04-02 3:00 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
| Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by Rudedog55 Originally posted by Asalzwed you would be better served to borrow someones mountain bike, just make sure to remove the bar ends if it has them. You would never get enough clearance or traction with a road bike and the gearing would prolly not help either. you are pac nw??? There is an awesome cross scene up there!!! the three hotbeds are the Pac NW, New England and Boulder, CO area, not to much in the south yet, but its catching on. Originally posted by Rudedog55 Originally posted by sallya hi fellow bike racer!!!! i think if u like running and riding you should check out Cyclocross!!! its the best of both worlds and has beer!!!!!!! Hey guys! I got a nice note from Rusty on my Strava page. He says you guys are still alive and kicking over here. I used to post here a long time ago. Just read through a few pages and see that I still know a few people on here. I haven't been around BT since last year. I did a Tri last spring and then decided to focus on cycling. I got a road bike, joined a team and start racing in January. Our cycling season starts early here in AZ. I've raced a couple of road races, a stage race but most of the racing around here is crits. I went from a Cat 4 to a Cat 2 in a couple of months and really enjoy bike racing! We just had the state crit last weekend and I was able to win the Masters race. Most of my races from now on will be in the Pro 1/2 field so it's going to be a lot harder. I'm sure I will get back into Triathlon one day. Right now I'm finding it easier to just do one sport. I don't miss swimming but I do miss running! I sold my Tri bike to buy a mountain bike, so that will be my next adventure! Good luck with your races! I'm going to be better at checking back in. I love reading race reports! Cheers! Sally Say what? I actually really want to try cyclocross as well. Can a beginner use a regular road bike or do you really need the extra clearance no matter what? Ah, I didn't think abou the gearing. Duh. That shows what kind of a cyclist I am I know there is a really big community here for sure. I just don't know much about it. I might dabble a bit. Thinking about taking the track class at the velodrome, too. Somewhere you brought up "LBS money" and this is actually where my thought process went to. At least checking it out with the style of the event and the versatility of what's used for it. |
| 2014-04-02 3:33 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Pro 4528 Norwalk, Connecticut | Subject: RE: SBR Utopia ---- Permanently OPEN!! Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by Rudedog55 Originally posted by Asalzwed you would be better served to borrow someones mountain bike, just make sure to remove the bar ends if it has them. You would never get enough clearance or traction with a road bike and the gearing would prolly not help either. you are pac nw??? There is an awesome cross scene up there!!! the three hotbeds are the Pac NW, New England and Boulder, CO area, not to much in the south yet, but its catching on. Originally posted by Rudedog55 Originally posted by sallya hi fellow bike racer!!!! i think if u like running and riding you should check out Cyclocross!!! its the best of both worlds and has beer!!!!!!! Hey guys! I got a nice note from Rusty on my Strava page. He says you guys are still alive and kicking over here. I used to post here a long time ago. Just read through a few pages and see that I still know a few people on here. I haven't been around BT since last year. I did a Tri last spring and then decided to focus on cycling. I got a road bike, joined a team and start racing in January. Our cycling season starts early here in AZ. I've raced a couple of road races, a stage race but most of the racing around here is crits. I went from a Cat 4 to a Cat 2 in a couple of months and really enjoy bike racing! We just had the state crit last weekend and I was able to win the Masters race. Most of my races from now on will be in the Pro 1/2 field so it's going to be a lot harder. I'm sure I will get back into Triathlon one day. Right now I'm finding it easier to just do one sport. I don't miss swimming but I do miss running! I sold my Tri bike to buy a mountain bike, so that will be my next adventure! Good luck with your races! I'm going to be better at checking back in. I love reading race reports! Cheers! Sally Say what? I actually really want to try cyclocross as well. Can a beginner use a regular road bike or do you really need the extra clearance no matter what? Ah, I didn't think abou the gearing. Duh. That shows what kind of a cyclist I am I know there is a really big community here for sure. I just don't know much about it. I might dabble a bit. Thinking about taking the track class at the velodrome, too. Somewhere you brought up "LBS money" and this is actually where my thought process went to. At least checking it out with the style of the event and the versatility of what's used for it. Ben, the way i rationalize it is this: I can do a bike race, triathlon or cross race on a cross bike, if i get where you are coming from. the least useful bike i own is my TT bike. That being said, right now i have 1 complete road bike and 2 other frame sets, i have 2 complete cross bikes and 2 other frame sets, i have a single speed commuter, that can double as a single speed cross bike, i have a MTB albeit really old school, and i have my TT rig and a dedicated trainer bike which was an old Cross race rig. Yes, i have a lot of bikes |
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