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2009-12-02 10:18 AM
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sdanaher - 2009-12-01 12:29 PM I need someone to get me to pull the trigger.  I'm nervous over getting the training in. 

I told my wife that and she replied "do you know yourself?  You'll get it in".

I considered that her implicit approval. 

What are your goals for an IM?  Is it to finish or break a certain time? 

If it's to finish I think it would be easy to train enough.  Here are some times for each part that will get you in under 17 hours:

Swim- 2:50 per 100 yards for a time of 2 hours

Bike- 14 mph for a time of 8 hours

Run/walk- 15 minutes per mile for 6 hours 33 minutes

If you can do both transitions in 20 minutes total yoo will finish at 16:53.

 

Since you have been working out pretty good this year, I'd bet you just need to increase your long stuff and get some structure/consistancy to be a few hours below the cut off.



Yeah, I mean... when you put it all together like that.  It really doesn't make it feel un-doable.

I guess I just need to look at it is, can I afford to add a couple hours to my long workouts on the weekend and maybe change what my shorter workouts during the week look like.

I don't think I'd be worried about "finishing" notwithstanding poor nutrition, idiocy, etc. 

I think I'm pretty convinced - I know I WANT to... but that pull the trigger moment can be hard


2009-12-02 10:24 AM
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I think that's the key that makes it all seem sane.  Break it down into doable portions.  The overall picture can get a little overwhelming.  For me, pulling the trigger was the easy part.  It was that feeling I got in my stomach after I did that scared me.   Its a huge goal.  It's supposed to feel a little uncomfortable.  That's why it will be so satisfying to accomplish.  I'm not a gifted triathlete, but I am determined and I'm willing to do the work.  I WILL be an ironman!
2009-12-02 10:25 AM
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Rogillio - 2009-11-30 1:25 PM

AbbieR - 2009-11-27 11:56 PM
amymengel - 2009-11-19 10:11 AM

I am feeling the pressure! 



Why did we both wander over to this thread!?!?

 

You both know the answer to this!!  :-)

 

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2009-12-02 10:32 AM
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BamaDC - 2009-12-02 8:25 AM
Rogillio - 2009-11-30 1:25 PM

AbbieR - 2009-11-27 11:56 PM
amymengel - 2009-11-19 10:11 AM

I am feeling the pressure! 



Why did we both wander over to this thread!?!?

 

You both know the answer to this!!  :-)

 

~Mike



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Maybe there is some type of support group we can form....."My name is Abbie and I'm addicted to IMKY"
2009-12-02 11:05 AM
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tnickerson - 2009-12-02 11:24 AM Its a huge goal.  It's supposed to feel a little uncomfortable.  That's why it will be so satisfying to accomplish. 

Great job putting it into words!

I remember laying there in bed the night after I signed up for my first IM.  It's not fear, but close.    This is a big part of what makes being an Ironman so cool.  You change so many habits along the way.  From what you eat, when you sleep, and what you think is completely normal and fascinating conversation.  You steadily increase your hours and you keep thinking "wow that was a tough week", and then a few weeks later you look back and think "60 mile ride followed by 5 mile run?  simple."  You end up pushing through the last month of hard training and you are really exhausted, but then you taper.  You show up on race day ready to see what you've got.  I'll never forget that feeling when I was standing there on the beach with the national anthem playing because I couldn't believe how far I had come and how much of myself I had invested in the next 12 hours of my life.   Folks talk about the electricity or the nervous energy that is in the air right before the gun goes off, and it's because everyone else was feeling what I was feeling.  After 6 months of tough work outs and all those changes you went through.  It all comes down to one day.

2009-12-02 11:06 AM
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btw, that feeling on race day also explains the IMKY addicts that are contemplating whether to give into their addiction or seek professional help.



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brown_dog_us - 2009-12-02 12:05 PM

tnickerson - 2009-12-02 11:24 AM Its a huge goal.  It's supposed to feel a little uncomfortable.  That's why it will be so satisfying to accomplish. 

Great job putting it into words!

I remember laying there in bed the night after I signed up for my first IM.  It's not fear, but close.    This is a big part of what makes being an Ironman so cool.  You change so many habits along the way.  From what you eat, when you sleep, and what you think is completely normal and fascinating conversation.  You steadily increase your hours and you keep thinking "wow that was a tough week", and then a few weeks later you look back and think "60 mile ride followed by 5 mile run?  simple."  You end up pushing through the last month of hard training and you are really exhausted, but then you taper.  You show up on race day ready to see what you've got.  I'll never forget that feeling when I was standing there on the beach with the national anthem playing because I couldn't believe how far I had come and how much of myself I had invested in the next 12 hours of my life.   Folks talk about the electricity or the nervous energy that is in the air right before the gun goes off, and it's because everyone else was feeling what I was feeling.  After 6 months of tough work outs and all those changes you went through.  It all comes down to one day.



This is the first BT post I read just minutes after registering for IM Louisville.  I think it sets the perfect tone.  

I'm looking forward to this experience.
2009-12-02 12:36 PM
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I'm stoked you are racing!

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Are you going to the club holiday party?

2009-12-03 11:57 AM
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Hey guys,
I was psyched to sign up for IM Arizona 2010, but missed the cutoff, so was resigned to not doing an IM in 2010. I just signed up for Louisville, and I'm excited, but I don't know what I've got myself in to. I have done Coeur d'Alene. Has anyone done both, and can compare the bike courses? And the swim with no wet suit??? How does that affect swim times? I think I'm much more efficient in a wetsuit.
Anyways looking forward to following everyone through their training for the next 10 months. It'd be have some on-line buddies doing Louisville since I'll be by myself at this race.
Happy training!!

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2009-12-03 1:11 PM
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I love open water swimming, but I have to admit, a non wetsuit IM swim does scare me! Its a long way to not use a pull buoy!

2009-12-03 4:54 PM
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sdanaher - 2009-12-02 10:18 AM
brown_dog_us - 2009-12-02 9:58 AM

sdanaher - 2009-12-01 12:29 PM I need someone to get me to pull the trigger.  I'm nervous over getting the training in. 

I told my wife that and she replied "do you know yourself?  You'll get it in".

I considered that her implicit approval. 

What are your goals for an IM?  Is it to finish or break a certain time? 

If it's to finish I think it would be easy to train enough.  Here are some times for each part that will get you in under 17 hours:

Swim- 2:50 per 100 yards for a time of 2 hours

Bike- 14 mph for a time of 8 hours

Run/walk- 15 minutes per mile for 6 hours 33 minutes

If you can do both transitions in 20 minutes total yoo will finish at 16:53.

 

Since you have been working out pretty good this year, I'd bet you just need to increase your long stuff and get some structure/consistancy to be a few hours below the cut off.



Yeah, I mean... when you put it all together like that.  It really doesn't make it feel un-doable.

I guess I just need to look at it is, can I afford to add a couple hours to my long workouts on the weekend and maybe change what my shorter workouts during the week look like.

I don't think I'd be worried about "finishing" notwithstanding poor nutrition, idiocy, etc. 

I think I'm pretty convinced - I know I WANT to... but that pull the trigger moment can be hard

 

The fact that the trigger pull is hard for you tells me you will do just fine!  I think for a first time IM there needs to be butterflies!!  That is what gets you out of bed on cold mornings to go swim or run and that is what compells you to go on long, lonely bike rides when you can't find anyone to go biking with you. 

Having courage does not mean that one is never scared.  Having courage means doing something despite being scared!  I don't know anyone who has ever done an IM who went into it w/o a modicum of fear....but it's a good fear.

OK, that was my best motivational speech!  Now go sign up before it sells out!

 

~Mike



2009-12-03 5:02 PM
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Mike, while you typed that message (thanks by the way, it was helpful to read) I was registering - literally.

The update to this thread email came about 5 seconds before my active.com confirmation.

I'm in!!  Nervous!  But in! 
2009-12-03 8:45 PM
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GO IRONMAN LOUISVILLE 2010-ers!
I did this race this past August and loved it.  I'm bypassing it this year to do the Timberman Ironman 70.3 race I want to check off my lifetime "want to do" list, but I hope to head back to Louisville in 2011.
The swim in the river is not that big of a deal, but clear goggles was the way to go.  I too was a bit worried about not having the luxuray of my wetsuit, but it was just fine.  I swam pretty well without it (1:14 vs. 1:12 at Wisconsin with a wetsuit).  The advice I got was to stay more on the island side on the way out, then farter away from shore after rounding the island.  That seemed to workout pretty well.  We lucked out with very reasonable temps, so expect a hot day unless we have another unseasonably cool summer.
The ride had a lot of hills, but because they were mostly rolling, I found there was ample recovery on the downhills.  Flat run course the most part.  Great atmosphere.
You will love it and you will do great!
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2009-12-04 9:10 AM
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Thanks Sam.
I love hearing tidbits and hints from those that have done the race. I'm keeping record of them all!!
Thanks so much giving us insider knowledge!!!
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2009-12-04 9:33 AM
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I understand.  I read almost all 80-something race reports from the previous year.  I encourage you to read the rece reports from the 2009 event.  Of course you don't have to read all of them or even 80 of them. 
Mine is on there if you want to find it.  I tried to compose it in such a way as to help others as well as tell my story.
Go to "forums".  Then find "Race Reports" and click on "Search for Race Reports".  Next insert the information needed to view Ironman Louisville reports. 
You might already know this of course.  Anyway, this was quite helpful to me.

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Enter your triathlon and other endurance race reports here with our unique template. These will also be linked to your training logs. Race Log Instructions, Find a Race, & Search for Race Reports
2009-12-06 10:01 AM
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What's everyone's training look like right now...with the holiday's I find it hard to get the training in.

But this is what I am doing right now.

2 days swim 2000-2500 yards

4 days run... long run on weekend

2-3 days of indoor bike trainer+ weighs

 



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My main focus is on swim, nutrition and strength training right now.  I don't have any really long workouts planned, just trying to get a couple of pounds off and stay consistent through the holidays.
2009-12-06 12:29 PM
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swim bike run 1 time a week... just hanging in there till training starts... witch brings me to my next question....

WHAT HIM are you going to do next year for training for LOU? I live in KS and would be doing the KS 70.3 but am a best man that weekend in a wedding. so dont think thats going to happen.

Trying to find a good fit for IM training... branded or non branded.. dosnt matter...

I have checked IM.com and trifind... but there are not that many races listed yet.
2009-12-06 6:35 PM
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This race is still open!  Why?!?!  And why am I back on this thread again?!?!

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dlink - 2009-12-06 11:01 AM

What's everyone's training look like right now...with the holiday's I find it hard to get the training in.

But this is what I am doing right now.

2 days swim 2000-2500 yards

4 days run... long run on weekend

2-3 days of indoor bike trainer+ weighs

 



I am training for Ironman New Orleans 70.3. I am following the Full IM program here on BT so IM NOLA is going to be a training race. I start tomorrow. 
2009-12-07 4:47 AM
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My training is in a holding pattern until after the first of the year.  I haven't fully recovered from B2B, and I have a marathon this weekend.  I doubt I finish the marathon, but it's paid for so I might as well get in a nice jog.

If you want to go hard in your HIM I would make sure it's about three months out.  I did one last year 5 weeks out and was fried going into it.  It ended up being a nice training day, but at no point was I really racing.

 edit: Doh! This is Doug accidentally using the Misses account.



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I am currently just trying to get back into a routine and get back to running.  I'll get down to business after the start of the year.

Here is a question I have about training.  I'm registered for the 70.3 in New Orleans in April.  Am I better off training with a 70.3 plan through that race and then shifting over the the last 19 weeks of an ironman training plan or should I just get started right away on the ironman plan and just let NOLA fall into that plan?
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Sluggo312 - 2009-12-07 10:11 AM

I am currently just trying to get back into a routine and get back to running.  I'll get down to business after the start of the year.

Here is a question I have about training.  I'm registered for the 70.3 in New Orleans in April.  Am I better off training with a 70.3 plan through that race and then shifting over the the last 19 weeks of an ironman training plan or should I just get started right away on the ironman plan and just let NOLA fall into that plan?


Have you considered the "Half to Full Ironman bridge" training plan on BT? That looks like it might be a good option. If not, I would get started on the full training right away and let NOLA fall into it, unless NOLA is an "A" race for you
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Daimyer - 2009-12-07 9:15 AM
Sluggo312 - 2009-12-07 10:11 AM I am currently just trying to get back into a routine and get back to running.  I'll get down to business after the start of the year.

Here is a question I have about training.  I'm registered for the 70.3 in New Orleans in April.  Am I better off training with a 70.3 plan through that race and then shifting over the the last 19 weeks of an ironman training plan or should I just get started right away on the ironman plan and just let NOLA fall into that plan?
Have you considered the "Half to Full Ironman bridge" training plan on BT? That looks like it might be a good option. If not, I would get started on the full training right away and let NOLA fall into it, unless NOLA is an "A" race for you


That's what I am doing.  I am doing Eagleman which is early-mid June.

So I'm starting a 20-week HIM plan in late January that goes straight to Eagleman, then doing 1 week of unscheduled training as recovery (see how my body feels) and then start on week 2 of the 12 week Bridge plan in mid June that goes right to IMKY.

my ONLY issue is that the longest run in that whole setup is 2.5 hours.  Seems odd.  I might add some run volume in here and there on the longest runs. 

I'm a gold member so I actually asked in the training plan support forum seeing as they are both D3 plans.
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sdanaher - 2009-12-07 9:17 AM
Daimyer - 2009-12-07 9:15 AM
Sluggo312 - 2009-12-07 10:11 AM I am currently just trying to get back into a routine and get back to running.  I'll get down to business after the start of the year.

Here is a question I have about training.  I'm registered for the 70.3 in New Orleans in April.  Am I better off training with a 70.3 plan through that race and then shifting over the the last 19 weeks of an ironman training plan or should I just get started right away on the ironman plan and just let NOLA fall into that plan?
Have you considered the "Half to Full Ironman bridge" training plan on BT? That looks like it might be a good option. If not, I would get started on the full training right away and let NOLA fall into it, unless NOLA is an "A" race for you


That's what I am doing.  I am doing Eagleman which is early-mid June.

So I'm starting a 20-week HIM plan in late January that goes straight to Eagleman, then doing 1 week of unscheduled training as recovery (see how my body feels) and then start on week 2 of the 12 week Bridge plan in mid June that goes right to IMKY.

my ONLY issue is that the longest run in that whole setup is 2.5 hours.  Seems odd.  I might add some run volume in here and there on the longest runs. 

I'm a gold member so I actually asked in the training plan support forum seeing as they are both D3 plans.


Why do you need more running?  What do you plan on running at Lou?
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