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2009-08-10 4:41 PM
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Somebody want to explain to me WTF is going on this these rule changes 3 weeks out??!!! Not cool!!



2009-08-10 4:44 PM
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Pegasus1731 - 2009-08-10 4:41 PM

Somebody want to explain to me WTF is going on this these rule changes 3 weeks out??!!! Not cool!!



they know if they would have changed it a month ago, no one would have noticed since everyone was out training,, it's their way of saying......  "taper time""
2009-08-10 4:53 PM
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Looks like I can answer my own question...

Email from the Ironman people I just got

"Thank you for your inquiry regarding official cut-off times at this year's Ford Ironman Louisville.  Due to event permits granted in 2009 by the City of Louisville and surrounding communities, the following course cut-off times apply:

*        The swim course will close 2 hours and 20 minutes after the final athlete enters the water.

*        The bike cut-off will be 5:30 p.m.

*        All official finishers must cross the finish line at Fourth Street Live! by midnight.


An element unique to Ford Ironman Louisville is the time-trial start, a mechanism used since the inaugural event in 2007.  To more quickly expedite the swim start this year, an additional point of entry will be utilized allowing twice as many participants to enter the water at one time. The final athlete is projected to enter the water at 7:30 a.m.  Swim start staging on race day will begin at 5:00 a.m."

2 points of entry, definatly a good idea



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2009-08-10 4:58 PM
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Pegasus1731 - 2009-08-10 2:53 PM

Looks like I can answer my own question...

Email from the Ironman people I just got

"Thank you for your inquiry regarding official cut-off times at this year's Ford Ironman Louisville.  Due to event permits granted in 2009 by the City of Louisville and surrounding communities, the following course cut-off times apply:

*        The swim course will close 2 hours and 20 minutes after the final athlete enters the water.

*        The bike cut-off will be 5:30 p.m.

*        All official finishers must cross the finish line at Fourth Street Live! by midnight.


An element unique to Ford Ironman Louisville is the time-trial start, a mechanism used since the inaugural event in 2007.  To more quickly expedite the swim start this year, an additional point of entry will be utilized allowing twice as many participants to enter the water at one time. The final athlete is projected to enter the water at 7:30 a.m.  Swim start staging on race day will begin at 5:00 a.m."

2 points of entry, definatly a good idea



Thank you!!!  But you should have asked when race numbers were going to be posted
2009-08-10 4:58 PM
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Pegasus1731 - 2009-08-10 5:53 PM

Looks like I can answer my own question...

Email from the Ironman people I just got

"Thank you for your inquiry regarding official cut-off times at this year's Ford Ironman Louisville.  Due to event permits granted in 2009 by the City of Louisville and surrounding communities, the following course cut-off times apply:

*        The swim course will close 2 hours and 20 minutes after the final athlete enters the water.

*        The bike cut-off will be 5:30 p.m.

*        All official finishers must cross the finish line at Fourth Street Live! by midnight.


An element unique to Ford Ironman Louisville is the time-trial start, a mechanism used since the inaugural event in 2007.  To more quickly expedite the swim start this year, an additional point of entry will be utilized allowing twice as many participants to enter the water at one time. The final athlete is projected to enter the water at 7:30 a.m.  Swim start staging on race day will begin at 5:00 a.m."

2 points of entry, definatly a good idea



So maybe I don't get it but why is everyone freaking about the time limit?  This sounds like the cut off is the same as any other Ironman... even longer than other IM's.  Or was this what everyone was confused about?  
2009-08-10 5:14 PM
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2 points is good.  I also found it interesting that staging for the swim start will beat 5:00 am.  Does ths mean that there will be no lines until then?



2009-08-10 5:29 PM
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jboeve - 2009-08-10 4:58 PM
Pegasus1731 - 2009-08-10 5:53 PM

Looks like I can answer my own question...

Email from the Ironman people I just got

"Thank you for your inquiry regarding official cut-off times at this year's Ford Ironman Louisville.  Due to event permits granted in 2009 by the City of Louisville and surrounding communities, the following course cut-off times apply:

*        The swim course will close 2 hours and 20 minutes after the final athlete enters the water.

*        The bike cut-off will be 5:30 p.m.

*        All official finishers must cross the finish line at Fourth Street Live! by midnight.


An element unique to Ford Ironman Louisville is the time-trial start, a mechanism used since the inaugural event in 2007.  To more quickly expedite the swim start this year, an additional point of entry will be utilized allowing twice as many participants to enter the water at one time. The final athlete is projected to enter the water at 7:30 a.m.  Swim start staging on race day will begin at 5:00 a.m."

2 points of entry, definatly a good idea



So maybe I don't get it but why is everyone freaking about the time limit?  This sounds like the cut off is the same as any other Ironman... even longer than other IM's.  Or was this what everyone was confused about?  


In short.  In 07 and 08 you had 17 hours after the last swimmer entered the water.  In 09 you have 17 hours after the first swimmer enters the water.

I know for sure in 08 it took over 45 min for everyone to get in.
2009-08-10 6:42 PM
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So with two points of entry it should take half the time. . plus some. . .so 30 minutes total till the last person enters?
2009-08-10 8:02 PM
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BamaDC - 2009-08-10 6:29 PM
jboeve - 2009-08-10 4:58 PM
Pegasus1731 - 2009-08-10 5:53 PM

Looks like I can answer my own question...

Email from the Ironman people I just got

"Thank you for your inquiry regarding official cut-off times at this year's Ford Ironman Louisville.  Due to event permits granted in 2009 by the City of Louisville and surrounding communities, the following course cut-off times apply:

*        The swim course will close 2 hours and 20 minutes after the final athlete enters the water.

*        The bike cut-off will be 5:30 p.m.

*        All official finishers must cross the finish line at Fourth Street Live! by midnight.


An element unique to Ford Ironman Louisville is the time-trial start, a mechanism used since the inaugural event in 2007.  To more quickly expedite the swim start this year, an additional point of entry will be utilized allowing twice as many participants to enter the water at one time. The final athlete is projected to enter the water at 7:30 a.m.  Swim start staging on race day will begin at 5:00 a.m."

2 points of entry, definatly a good idea



So maybe I don't get it but why is everyone freaking about the time limit?  This sounds like the cut off is the same as any other Ironman... even longer than other IM's.  Or was this what everyone was confused about?  


In short.  In 07 and 08 you had 17 hours after the last swimmer entered the water.  In 09 you have 17 hours after the first swimmer enters the water.

I know for sure in 08 it took over 45 min for everyone to get in.

 
Right, right... but the way I'm reading it is:*        The swim course will close 2 hours and 20 minutes after the final athlete enters the water.

So this is the same thing as previous years correct? 
2009-08-10 8:04 PM
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Three questions to this, where in the heck will they have a second point of entry? Its a dock.  Second the channel is narrow so now everyone is going to be jammed with no where to go and all of the "slower" swimmers will be at the front creating a log jam.  3rd last year I got in the water at about 7:45am and this year there is almost 1k more racers not sure if it will go twice as quick.

2009-08-10 8:06 PM
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jboeve - 2009-08-10 8:02 PM
BamaDC - 2009-08-10 6:29 PM
jboeve - 2009-08-10 4:58 PM
Pegasus1731 - 2009-08-10 5:53 PM

Looks like I can answer my own question...

Email from the Ironman people I just got

"Thank you for your inquiry regarding official cut-off times at this year's Ford Ironman Louisville.  Due to event permits granted in 2009 by the City of Louisville and surrounding communities, the following course cut-off times apply:

*        The swim course will close 2 hours and 20 minutes after the final athlete enters the water.

*        The bike cut-off will be 5:30 p.m.

*        All official finishers must cross the finish line at Fourth Street Live! by midnight.


An element unique to Ford Ironman Louisville is the time-trial start, a mechanism used since the inaugural event in 2007.  To more quickly expedite the swim start this year, an additional point of entry will be utilized allowing twice as many participants to enter the water at one time. The final athlete is projected to enter the water at 7:30 a.m.  Swim start staging on race day will begin at 5:00 a.m."

2 points of entry, definatly a good idea



So maybe I don't get it but why is everyone freaking about the time limit?  This sounds like the cut off is the same as any other Ironman... even longer than other IM's.  Or was this what everyone was confused about?  


In short.  In 07 and 08 you had 17 hours after the last swimmer entered the water.  In 09 you have 17 hours after the first swimmer enters the water.

I know for sure in 08 it took over 45 min for everyone to get in.

 
Right, right... but the way I'm reading it is:*        The swim course will close 2 hours and 20 minutes after the final athlete enters the water.

So this is the same thing as previous years correct? 


Your right, I misunderstood.  Your talking about swim cutoff and not finish time.  My bad.


2009-08-10 8:36 PM
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Hi everyone. Jeesh, i go away for a mere 5 weeks to remodel a house and train my arse off and came back to a 77 page thread?

And I see the taper madness has started, great!

BTW, that totally sucks about the midnight finish time. Not cool.

2009-08-10 10:43 PM
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Bernabe- I agree with Wiky regarding your plan.  I would maybe do just the 2 hour run...but NOT the second run.  This may be too much and you're too close.  As a general rule, it's better to go in UNDER trained rather than OVER trained.  Good luck.
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razorxp- ALL GOOD POINTS.  Hmmm.  Perhaps a TT start should have a seeding system with the fastest swimmers first based on previous 70.3 & 140.6 events.  I understand the idea about getting slower finishers out first, but with the congestion at the start due to space in the river, that might not be the way to go.
I wasn't planning on going to the mandatory meeting, but it's starting to look like I should.

Biked around Mackinac Island (in MI) today with my 1 year-old on my back in his backpack, my wife with me on this undersized tandom, while pulling my 6 year-old in a Burly.  Interesting...
(Yes, my 6 year-old can ride, but we didn't have the cash, and originally he was keeping my 1 year-old happy in the Burly...when his happiness ended, he went into the backpack).

Loved the story about the daughter who created the finisher drawing.  Excellent.

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2009-08-11 7:53 AM
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Okay... I don't think I've had a normal night's sleep in over 3 weeks.  It's not that I'm not sleeping it's just that the crazy, vivid dreams that I have mean that I'm not getting the "deep sleep" that I need.  Anyone else going through this?  Also, I've always been a teeth grinder when I'm stressed/anxious but the last week I've kicked it into high gear.  I'm worrying that I'll pull a Tyler Hamilton and grind my teeth to the nerves before Louisville! 

I guess all this means that Taper Madness... or pre-Taper Madness in my case... is setting in.  It's weird because during the day I feel extremely calm, collected, and in control.  Hope everyone else is doing "better" than I am, at least for the sake of your chompers!!!

-Josh

--Also, I never said thanks to Jon for setting up the BT shirts but I love them!  I'm the Safety Director for a Construction company so the "safety green" color is ideal for me.

2009-08-11 8:24 AM
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I am not doing so well. I came down with the flu yesterday and could not get out of bed at all. I think this might explain my bad run on Sunday. This is my last week before taper and it is off to a terrible start. I need some advice. I have one 100 mile ride in, several 70-80 mile rides, a couple 17 mile runs, and have swam 2.2 miles twice. I have another 100 mile ride scheduled for Thursday but feel I might not be ready by then and then a 20 mile run for Sunday. This flu really came at a bad time. I am feeling better today and I am going to try to swim and if that goes well I might be able to get a run in.


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moabrunner - 2009-08-11 8:24 AM I am not doing so well. I came down with the flu yesterday and could not get out of bed at all. I think this might explain my bad run on Sunday. This is my last week before taper and it is off to a terrible start. I need some advice. I have one 100 mile ride in, several 70-80 mile rides, a couple 17 mile runs, and have swam 2.2 miles twice. I have another 100 mile ride scheduled for Thursday but feel I might not be ready by then and then a 20 mile run for Sunday. This flu really came at a bad time. I am feeling better today and I am going to try to swim and if that goes well I might be able to get a run in.


Rest and get better. . do not think about getting a long run or ride in when you are sick.   If you push it and stay sick then you accomplish nothing. 

1)  Rest

2) Get healthy

3) Rest some more

4) Do some easy running/riding/swimming when you are 100% healthy.

5)  Rest some more

6)  Travel to Louisville

7)  Become an Ironman

8)  Rest some more

Seriously since we are under 3 weeks now, there is nothing to worry about besides getting to the race 100% healthy.  You will be fine. . you will finish. 

2009-08-11 10:27 AM
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Just got another email back from the athlete coordinator in response to my email asking for more clarification on the swim start.  Here is what she said:

There will be 20 docks that athletes will be able to enter the water from.  In addition, we will not allow people to start getting in line before 5am because Ironman does not want to encourage people to camp out/get there at 3 or 4am.
Kindest Regards,
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I beleive she probably meant 2 docks and not 20, but notice that they will not allow people to line up before 5am.

2009-08-11 10:38 AM
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*Butts her nose in*

So, did they have cut off's on the bike and run for 2008? Or this new too?

Here are the cutoff times:

The race will officially end 17 hours after the first age group athlete starts the swim. Aid station stops, transitions, etc., will be included in your total elapsed time. Splits will be recorded for each segment of the race. The following cutoff times apply for each segment of the race.

Swim: Two hours and 20 minutes after the final athlete starts the swim. Any athlete still in the water after this time will be considered DNF and removed from the race.

Bike: Officially closes at 5:30 p.m. Any athlete still on the bike after this time will be disqualified and removed from the race. Additionally we will enforce a second loop cutoff at approximately Mile 60. Any athlete that does not reach the start of the second loop by 2:15 p.m. will be considered DNF and removed from the race.

Run: Officially closes at 12:00 a.m. Any athlete still on the run after this time will be considered DNF. Additionally we will enforce a second loop cutoff at approximately Mile 14. Any athlete that does not reach the start of the second loop by 9:00 p.m. will be disqualified and removed from the race.

2009-08-11 10:52 AM
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My motivation is horrible right now.  I am ready to get on with the race!

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moabrunner - 2009-08-11 8:24 AM I am not doing so well. I came down with the flu yesterday and could not get out of bed at all. I think this might explain my bad run on Sunday. This is my last week before taper and it is off to a terrible start. I need some advice. I have one 100 mile ride in, several 70-80 mile rides, a couple 17 mile runs, and have swam 2.2 miles twice. I have another 100 mile ride scheduled for Thursday but feel I might not be ready by then and then a 20 mile run for Sunday. This flu really came at a bad time. I am feeling better today and I am going to try to swim and if that goes well I might be able to get a run in.


Cancel the long ride and long run.  Even if you were healthy I wouldn't recommend a long ride or long run this close to an IM.  My final longest ride was about 2 weeks ago and my final longest run was last week.  You're not going to gain any fitness this close to IMLou.  You don't have enough time to recover and absorb the stress of a long ride and long run.  Rest and recovery is what you need. 


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wes mantooth - 2009-08-11 10:27 AM

Just got another email back from the athlete coordinator in response to my email asking for more clarification on the swim start.  Here is what she said:

There will be 20 docks that athletes will be able to enter the water from.  In addition, we will not allow people to start getting in line before 5am because Ironman does not want to encourage people to camp out/get there at 3 or 4am.
Kindest Regards,
Ann


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I beleive she probably meant 2 docks and not 20, but notice that they will not allow people to line up before 5am.

If it's the same dock as the one in 2007, it was one long dock that you walked down until you got to the end where I though athletes jumped off straight or to the right....GOOD LUCK PEEPS!!! Can't wait to wear my neon shirt and meet all you crazy kids!

2009-08-11 3:22 PM
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Just back from a 120 mile ride at an average speed of 20 MPH. It felt great!
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Question: I've got a 3 hr ride on Thursday.  I really want to do it on the trainer. And to be totally honest I'd really like to do the majority of my rides from now till race day on the trainer.  Avoiding the possibility of getting hurt and fitting this in with classes are my main two reasons. 

Really bad idea or ok?

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Pegasus1731 - 2009-08-11 6:03 PM

Question: I've got a 3 hr ride on Thursday.  I really want to do it on the trainer. And to be totally honest I'd really like to do the majority of my rides from now till race day on the trainer.  Avoiding the possibility of getting hurt and fitting this in with classes are my main two reasons. 

Really bad idea or ok?

I don't see a problem with it at all.
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