Fred D Mentor Group Part III (Page 62)

That's a good question.  No idea actually what my ideal weight is, I am built large however.  I would think I am within 10-15 pounds of ideal?

But I always thought that 230 or so was where I should be given my build, and I'd look anorexic at a "normal" BMI weight of 194.  I no longer think that is true, and really should not trust my own judgment on this issue. 

And no, no ollalliberry pie, but I dd have some ollaliberry jam on a piece of bread.  Damn good.  And the Hearst night tour was cool, got to see a lot more of the interior than on the day tours.  Interesting factoid, my grandfather stayed there way back when, he's in the little movie they show on the day tour horsing around with Charlie Chaplin.  Would love to know what room he slept in, and who he slept with!!

Anyone want to help me create a swim workout for Friday?  Wanted to incorporate the foot band drill.  It will be my first time using it, so just keep that in mind.  Looking for about 2.5-3k total including a 400-500 WU, and 100-200 CD.

okie dokie.  All depends on what you want to work on, but here's one

w/u - 300 swim, 100 kick

Set

3 x, increasing effort each set:

(200 swim on :30 RI

2 x 100 (odd IM, even pull with band) on :20:

8 x 50s on :10 RI, odd kick, even swim, descend to sprint by #7 and 8)

w/d - 200 ez

yesterday's workout with foot band. 

Nice...

Ok...sounds good.  I'll likely chicken out on the IM and kicking...because I'm so horrible at it I'd likely die of exhaustion.  But it is something I know I need to work on to become a better swimmer.

OK, but I wouldn't do 2 x 100 with the band if its your first. 

The kicking is in there (1) because you are a bad kicker - doing more will make you better and (2) to balance out the shoulder work with the pulling.

Your grandmother?  Wait, was that a trick question?

I know I'm a sicko, but I think the "holding a coin in the butt cheeks" imagery may help you here.

We had an exercise in pacing in the pool this morning.  It's a good thing I have the day off work!

WU:
200 choice
16x50 as 1. swim, 2. kick-swim, 3. swim-kick, 4. kick.  1-4 on 1:05, 5-12 on 1:00, 13-16 on :55

MS:  Goal is to improve the 300s by 1s/50
800 on 16:00 - long stroke, steady pace
300 on 5:00 (4:12)
600 on 12:00
2x300 on 5:00 (4:12, 4:03)
400 on 8:00
3x300 on 5:00 (4:12, 4:04, 3:58)
200 on 6:00
300 as fast as possible (3:50)

CD:
100 ez

Total: 5200 meters

ouch!

Trainer for me this a.m., 2 x 20' at 250, 5' at 180.....   I haven't done a recent FTP test so not sure where I should be, but 250 is south of that number it seems, as there is more room for hurt

easy 3 mile run later

Nice job Arend and Chris.

I was able to ride yesterday.  First outdoor ride on a weekday in almost 2 months.  So much better to be on the road.  Did a few 5 minute intervals varying between 250 and 280 watts.  Just really weird that when on the trainer lately, I have a hard time putting out any power.  Anything over 220 watts feels like death...but on the road it's much better.  Maybe it's just a mental block.

Wow, I may literally not have made it thru that workout without someone pulling me out of the water.  That 3:50/300 on the last one must have hurt.  

Hypothetical for the group.  If you decided that you didn't have time to devote to triathlon and wanted to go from being mediocre at 3 sports to being good in 1 sport.  What would you?  Bike racing?  Running?  Swimming? 

Why?  Because you are good at it?  Because you enjoy it the most?  Because you think logistically it is easiest?

Just curious.

Not just you Jason.  I put out significantly more wattage at the same RPE when I'm outside. 

It's almost disheartening.  I'd estimate about 30 watts more at what seems to be the same effort outside.  I just accept it when training and know my 'inside' #s vs my 'outside' #s.

I'd definitely swim.  I think I'm better at it and I know it's easier on my body than running and doesn't take as long as cycling.  I do enjoy it, by I enjoy the other two as well (I'm happy I don't have to make this decision).  I have several friends who are avid (rabid?) marathon swimmers, and I have a strong suspicion that there will be some long distance OWS in my future.  My problem, right now, is I don't have the "bio-prene" to "qualify" for a true marathon swim.  I wear a wetsuit, not for the flotation assistance, but for the survival assistance.  Jamie Patrick has a great blog post here about the "controversy".

Hard question....  probably swimming.  Although training for the 10K swim this season got quite boring, I resolved I could never be a full time marathon swimmer.   Can only take so many 2.5 hour ocean swims, and those take WAY more out of me than I thought they would.  And it's very lonely, as not many people want to swim more than a couple miles at most.   When you start talking 5 and 6 their eyes glaze over and they get out of the water and get coffee 

If I could someday return to tris, it would be running, since that's where I need the most work.

I would bike.  I enjoy it, I'm good at it, and it's the most social.  Running is logistically easier...but given the weather where I live, it's pretty easy to bike year round if you want to.  You just need to battle darkness during the winter weekdays if you work a normal day job.

and just to make it hurt that little bit more, the coach staggered our starts.  There were 3 of us left, the slowest went on :00, 2nd on :05, I went on :15 - all different lanes, no drafting.  The chasers were to try to catch the ones in front and the 'rabbit' at the front tried to stay away.  About a half second before I pushed off the wall, coach says "You're a length down....".  I couldn't catch them but I busted a gut trying.

That's a really tough one.  If I lived somewhere that I could swim in open water for significant parts of the year and there was a community of people in the area that were into that sort of thing I would say swimming for sure.  Since my open water season here is more like 3 months, I can't see it happening...

Second choice would be cycling.  I love being on my bike!

Good responses.  Thanks for playing along. 

I think I might pick running because of the simplicity logistically.  It's cheap and it doesn't take as long.  There are a lot of little local races and it's easy to participate in.  I like it even though I'm not a natural talent and have to work hard at it.  I know more local runners who are running at 5am during the week that I can synch up with and do group runs with.

If money/time weren't a big issue I'd pick cycling.  I like it and have a little natural ability and with some focus could probably do OK in the AG ranks.  It would be fun to try some bike racing having done group rides with some cat 2/3 guys who are really into it and I like the scene and it's fun getting into the tactics a little.  I like the speed and the feeling of going fast that you can't really duplicate running.  There are a couple of groups to synch up with.  There are some fast guys here and there but it's harder to synch up with everyone other than a couple of schedule group rides a couple times a week.  Races are usually a further drive to get to based on the little searching I've done.

Honestly, I'm just addicted to working out.  After thinking about it, I just need to be doing something.  If I don't work out in the morning I feel off for the rest of the day.  I don't care if it's hitting they gym, swimming, biking, running.  I'd probably even really enjoy crossfit if I tried it (gasp).  I'm thankful I can do what I do and don't have any big injuries at the moment to contend with because I realize how frustrating that can be.  I can't even handle getting sick and not working out.

If I got injured running or something (knock on wood), I think I could see myself swimming 5/wk for awhile and doing masters to really just see if I could improve.  I'd also probably start lifting more weights for fun and to not lose lean muscle as I age.

Without a doubt run.  In fact, I've seriously considered doing that several times.

I don't see myself giving up biking when I'm in the mountains, though.  It's just too glorious to ride up the side of a mountain and speed back down.

ETA

Oh, I didn't answer the whole question.  Yes, simplicity and availability of (especially local) races is part of it for me too.  I like that I take nothing with me to running races, compared with the portable tri shop that seems to accompany me to tri races.  But really running is just the one of the three disciplines about which I feel like I might know something, and it's the one that gives me the most pleasure.  Pain in the pool just stinks (for me, and I'm sure that others feel differently).  Pain on the bike I tolerate because I love riding.  I think I actually enjoy the pain of hard running.

I'd hop to swimming if I wanted to be good at something individually - it's my back ground, and I'm not TOO far off from being competitive. But those 5:30am Master's practices don't sound so awesome as my pool is outside and it's in the 50s/60s in the morning...

Easiest? Running. Just need shoes - can do anytime, anywhere.

So, I'm not sure which I'd pick