SBR Utopia - OPEN (Page 67)

KeriKadi - 2013-01-29 4:48 PM

itsallrelative_Maine - 2013-01-29 9:29 AM

bzgl40 - 2013-01-28 9:37 AM I must say, my bits are not appreciating the 4 straight days on the trainer. 

I can't do four days straight...and I've got a saddle and shorts that I love. I just don't think we were meant for that kind of punishment!

Sally - glad to hear they cleared the margins...hope you heal up quickly.

Keri - great job getting back out there on the swim. I do think it is a matter of desensitizing yourself. You are a good swimmer, you can do this.

And I just found out I'm .75 miles from breaking 100 this month. Two more days (and 9 miles on the plan) to make it!

Awesome job on the mileage Jennifer!

Four days straight would kill me and my ahem marital relations! I'm trying to convince my bits getting back on the trainer after Saturday's ride is the right thing to do since I have another long ride this weekend.

40 miler bike ride today and my bits.. feel, erm.. pretty good. 

Well, you're recovering from surgery? Also, it depends on the type of workout. The higher the intensity, the more likely it is to be a gut buster. So this would be the really short intervals, as opposed to say 2 x 20' or longer. For me, it's been very, very rare that I'll actually feel like throwing up. More that I just burn like crazy inside. The longer ones can still burn quite considerably, but due to the lesser intensity they likely won't quite have that same feeling.

Hehe. Had you not looked that far ahead? I was a little puzzled by which ones everyone seemed to be looking forward to pointing out.

I'm a regular fountain of puke, especially lately.  I've puked due to effort alone, both in training and in racing -- this has mostly been after hard intervals (training) or a 5K race.  Last summer I was diagnosed with a variety of intestinal problems which I never quite totally figured out before IMWI (and am still working on it), the result being that I threw up multiple times.  Fortunately, it doesn't really bother me.

All of the above is odd, to me, because prior to doing endurance training, I had an iron stomach.  I've eaten fermented (aka rotten) fish in Korea, toasted bugs in Africa, the whole panoply of animal parts prepared under very questionable hygienic standards, and other, less delicious but equally potentially puke-inducing, things, with nary a problem.  I've always ignored 'don't drink the water', etc., etc., and never (until recently) had a problem.  All of which is to say:  stuff happens (or not).

As to your specific question, I suppose it is going to be different for different people, but when I run hard, it is the legs that give out.  In other words, in these situations (intervals, 5K races) I reach the limits of the power that my legs can produce before I reach the limits of how much oxygen I can breathe and deliver to the muscles.  (That's a bit of a false dichotomy, but perhaps you get the idea.)

I find ignorance is bliss in this case. 

Makes me think of that quote - you know you've gone out too hard if you puke before the finish line, too easy if you puke after finishing and JUST RIGHT if you puke on the finish line.

I (thankfully) have never puked because of a workout. I have sometimes wished I could, but have never had the matter pass. I'm with the other folks - other parts of me give out before my stomach. Mostly my brain.

Kim - you asked why we find it hard to take a (deserved) day off....for me it's because achieving this level of fitness was so difficult - it took years. I'm afraid that if I take a day off, I'll lose all the fitness I worked so hard to gain (I know - a day or two won't kill me), and I'll lose the drive to continue working hard. It's kind of like a diet. You tell yourself that you aren't going to eat any sugar for the next month. A week into it, you accidentally put a tsp of sugar in your coffee in the morning (because honestly, you haven't HAD your coffee yet and you are still a little addled). Then at lunch, someone offers you a bite of a cookie. It becomes much easier to take that bite of cookie because you have already violated the sugar moratorium. I feel that way about working out. If I let one of my planned workouts go in a week, it becomes much easier to drop another because the week is "already not to the plan." It's horrible 'All or nothing' thinking that gets you nowhere (I know in my heart, but I struggle with convincing my brain). At least that's how it works for me.

I'm still impressed you are doing Sufferlandia + running 100+ miles in January.

I've come here to whine...LOL...my foot hurts sooo bad. I can't put weight on my foot at all because the whole area is so sore and swollen, the stitches are hurting like heck. I woke up this am without too much pain but as soon as I try to walk, the stitches pull. Ouch! OK, probably TMI but I wasn't expecting this at all. The good thing about having the surgery unexpectedly on Monday was that i didn't have time to dwell on it, however it wasn't the best idea because I had not planned on being off my feet for days. I took the day off work yesterday but have to go back today, not sure how I am going to manage....I work with Special needs kids and it's very hard on everyone when I'm out...the kids especially don't like change, so I'm going in for 4 hours. 

OK, I'm done complaining! Back to S/B/R

Whine away, you earned it.  I can see it being a mixed blessing about not expecting the surgery so no dwelling but now your are not prepared for the down time. 

Agreed....sometimes it feels good to vent a little!  Give it another day or two -- I imagine you'll hit a turning point and will feel WAY better.  It's funny how that happens, but it seems to work that way.

Big cackle out loud at that one. Way to go, Jarrod Shoemaker

I've done some pretty good puking the last couple years but only because I was training or racing sick. Clever!!! I actually "pulled over" to the side in the Bali Tri swim leg to puke, but it being an ocean it probably didn't make much difference. Nobody complained about puke being in the water, anyway.

Other than that, only back in the competitive swimming days, but it'd happen a few times a week (maybe 1 out of every 4 or 5 workouts). True story: we were doing some kind of killer set, and the coach walked over to our lane, leaned over, and whispered, "Slackers. This is the only lane where nobody's puked or cried yet." The four guys burst into tears and the two girls puked. Shoulda seen the look on the coach's face. Priceless. I just saw him at my niece's wedding this Christmas and over 20 years later, both of us still remember this

Stage 5 of ToS felt surprisingly good.  I did it at 97% and up until the last interval, I was thinking that I should have just left it at 100%.  The last interval was brutal, but I gutted it out and was pretty happy with my effort.

Also, per Ben's suggestion, I actually added a warm-up to this morning's ride, with a few short boosts in power and cadence.  I think it really helped me throughout the ride....either that, or it's a placebo effect that I'm quite okay with

Tomorrow looks ugly....Saturday looks downright brutal!  But, in a sick way, I'm actually looking forward to it. 

You are one of the least whiny people I know ... and having to go back into a challenging workplace right after surgery is a big deal!

And yes, foot slices REALLY hurt.

Sorry. You are entitled to whine about that.

x2. And as an aunt of special needs kids - your dedication is truly appreciated.

Yikes.  Running the treadmill after work today myself

Have my first race of 2013 Sunday, Redondo Beach 10K.  Goal for a while has been sub 50, best is 52 and change last year.  I am 20# lighter than last year and running faster than ever, still seems daunting.  Sub goal would be to average in the 7:XXs.  The 5K of this race was actually my first race ever in 2005 and averaged 9:37s.  Sometimes feel as if I am a slow learner, LOL.

Course is mostly flat, some rolling, with one short steep hill about 1.2 miles out, then downhill to the finish.  Have a pacing plan to get it done but not sure I can do it. 

Good luck Chris, you can do it!  

Stick to your pacing plan and if that starts to go south, refer to the earlier discussion on puking.  

GO CHRIS GO!

Of course you can do it. Don't blow up the plan. Just follow it.

And you're a hawt skinny speed demon. Just sayin'.