NCAA Football getting crowded at the top (Page 7)

Georgia Tech at  #3 Georgia

#5 Oregon at #15 Oregon St.

#4 Florida at #10 Florida State

Auburn at #2 Alabama

#8 Stanford at #17 UCLA <---Important because a Stanford loss could put Oregon in the PAC12 championship game.

#1 Notre Dame at USC

It seems right now, that Notre Dame, Alabama, and Georgia control their own destiny.  But what if Notre Dame loses?  If Alabama or Georgia wins the SEC championship with one loss, they're in the BCS title game...but with who?

If Florida beats FSU (assuming a ND loss), do they become #2 despite not winning their division, let alone conference (just like Alabama did last year)?  What about Oregon?  What if Stanford loses to UCLA, and allows Oregon into the PAC12 championship game and Oregon wins the PAC12?  Do they jump ahead of Florida?  What happens if FSU beats Florida?  Does FSU jump ahead of all the other one loss teams (including Notre Dame)? The other one loss teams like Oregon and KState still have ranked opponents left in their season before they can actually finish with one loss...so two losses for them is not out of the question.

Oh the possibilities.  I'm still hoping for an Oregon vs. SEC matchup.  Not because I think it right or deserving...just what I want to see as a viewer.

That would be a crazy scenario...but I don't think it would be a failure of the BCS system.  I think it would be a failure of college football as a whole.  Conferences expanded to have conference championship games to make more money.  Bowl games exist instead of a true playoff system to make more money.  Given what we had before the BCS, and what we have now...I think the BCS does a pretty good job.  If we truely want to crown a college football national champion, we need a total revamp of the system, and we need to convince university presidents and conference commisioners to stop caring about money.  Will it happen one day?  Maybe...but I am not at all surprised why it hasn't happened yet. 

amd723 - 2012-11-19 7:27 AM

uclamatt2007 - 2012-11-17 9:49 PMApparently just about every SEC team scheduled a bye this week. Every conference should need to schedule 9 game conference seasons, the extra win playing a nobody affects the rankings at the end of the season.

It's quite possible that when everything plays out, ND will have played one team that finishes in the Top 25. Would people still say they played the toughest schedule in the country?

ND has played Oklahoma, Stanford and Michigan. All still in the top 25. Do you think 2 of the 3 will drop out? I guess anything is possible. Alabama has played Michigan, LSU and Texas AM, losing to AM. Georgia has played Florida and S. Carolina, losing to Carolina. So, they've played as many (and in GA's case, more) top 25 teams than the current # 2 and 3. The difference is they've one all their games - it wasn't pretty, but they did.GO IRISH

I honestly didn't know that West Virginia did what it does and gave the game back to Oklahoma until the next morning. I wrote that thinking that they were going down with the a loss to OK St knocking them out next week. A loss to OSU will knock Michigan out.

Notre Dame obviously deserves a BCS bid even with a loss, but their schedule was being talked up as the toughest in the country early on. The Big 10 was in the tank this year which hurt their strength and beating a reeling USC team with freshman QB who has onlt thrown 9 passes on the season isn't going to help their case. It will be a double digit line for the NC, but who knows, ND has been feeding off the underdog role all season.

I still stand by what I have said before:

6 Conference Champions 5 Conference Champions (See ya big Least)

2 Wild Cards

1 Guaranteed Mid Major Spot

In your scenario we're arguing about who's going to be eighth  (and included) or ninth (and left out). The way it is now we argue who should second (and included) or third (and left out).

Most would prefer your scenario.

Also not that crazy about an undeserving mid-major getting in just for principle's sake.

So if Georgia loses to Alabama, does Florida (the top ranked non conference champion) get the wild card over Georgia despite Georgia winning the division and Florida doesn't.  Wouldn't that be just as much of a failure of the system that you described?

When I mentioned totally revamping the system, I was thinking something like a 32 team playoff.  Cut the regular season to 9 games (8 conference and 1 non conference).  All the conference champs get in, and you have a whole bunch of wild cards.  Why would this never happen?  Because universities like money more than they like determining a true national champion.

As jacasa mentioned, the entire college football season is exciting the way it is.  We cared when USC lost it's first game early.  We cared when Oklahoma lost it's first game.  Same with West Virginia, Clemson, Florida St, and all the recent upsets.  A 4 game playoff still creates some drama because there is always a possibility of 4 undefeate teams at the end of the season...so one loss could potentially be crippling (though very unlikely).  But once you get to an 8 team playoff, you turn viewers off to only care when a team is in danger of losing twice.

Honestly, the current BCS has crowned the best team most of the time, and I can deal with that considering how great the entire season is because of the system.  I'm not so sure I would want to see a true national champion through a 8 team playoff (even though there are still tons of chances for controversy) or a 32 game playoff where the regular season is bleh.

If I told you right now that the #1 ranked Indiana basketball team was losing by 5 points with less than 5 minutes left, how inclined would you be to change the channel and watch knowing it's just a regular season game?

Simple fix. All teams must be ranked above 15th lets say. That eliminates any crappy teams like BSU this year.

I'm excited for all the good ball games today. Mich/Ohio St should be good. ND/USC as well.

What's BT excited for?

Oregon/OrSt doesn't play until 3est, so she could have had both.

OSU-Michigan is a slugfest.

How come Pitt doesn't play every game like it does against the ranked teams?

Probably pull for USC for the first time in my life tonight.

Every so often someone kicks the ball across the paint...ZZZZZZZ

Wow...according to the announcer at the half, Ohio St. is the team of the day.

I paraphrase:

"While they don't look like a national championship team this year, they have to be looking forward to next year. The Big 10 is absolutely terrible and they play nobody but a coachless Cal and the Franklin County Powderpuff team in the pre season, so their chances look good for a BCS national championship."

Congratulations BCS, this is what you have turned college football into. Play nobody all year and reap the benefits.