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2010-03-21 6:56 PM
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WOW !  Those are some very sick bikes.  Keep 'em coming. 

I try to find an older picture to post for now as my bike is in a few pieces getting a good cleaning before next Monday when I've been cleared to ride again.



2010-03-21 7:18 PM
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2010-03-21 7:39 PM
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PennState - 2010-03-22 10:18 AM
papson14 - 2010-03-21 7:56 PM

WOW !  Those are some very sick bikes.  Keep 'em coming. 

I try to find an older picture to post for now as my bike is in a few pieces getting a good cleaning before next Monday when I've been cleared to ride again.



how's the foot doing?

Thanks for asking.  Foot is getting better.  I'm off crutches and I'm close to walking normally.  I'll be back in the pool today and I've been cleared to ride in a week.  They want me to hold off on running for a couple more weeks.  I'm staying positive and feel that I should still be able to perform well.  At least I'll be well rested.

2010-03-21 7:54 PM
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PennState - 2010-03-21 7:46 PM
Dream Chaser - 2010-03-21 7:26 PM

 

 

Cuse: I'm gonna bet 20 bucks you have a carbon ride come this time next year, although your current ride is very schweet.

Fred:  Why not go Wellington all the way and drop the disc this year?

James: Very Stealth, Brother.  You're gonna fly right under the radar and grab a Kona spot!!

Bryan:  God Bless Sponsorship!  That bike is sick!!

Charlie:  The gold decals make the bling factor on that ride an 11/10. 



Serious question for debate... I am thinking about using the 404s without the disc cover this year.
Why??? weight savings.
Why not??? aero benefit.

Hey we have to debate stuff... can't let the COJ forum be the only one doing this (they are 'debating' healthcare right now )



IMO, use the disc cover......

DC.......we'll see........but that's probably a safe bet....!
2010-03-21 8:05 PM
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Probably riding this setup minus the tail cage holders.
2010-03-21 8:13 PM
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Monty - 2010-03-21 8:05 PM

Probably riding this setup minus the tail cage holders.
Ok, I forget how to shrink the darn file. Will post it later after I figure it out.


2010-03-21 8:20 PM
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Monty - 2010-03-21 8:05 PM

Probably riding this setup minus the tail cage holders.
Let's try this again.



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2010-03-21 8:59 PM
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^^^^ Very nice ride!!!  Are those 90mm deep rims?

2010-03-21 9:03 PM
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Dream Chaser - 2010-03-21 8:59 PM

^^^^ Very nice ride!!!  Are those 90mm deep rims?

100mm
2010-03-21 9:38 PM
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PennState - 2010-03-21 10:00 AM Felt DA is very nice.

GPS also rides the DA.


Shhhh!    I might be selling it.  I have a potential buyer if it's the right size.   This is the one I want.  http://www.quintanarootri.com/_bike.asp?content=Dulce

Much more my style. 

Jorge rides the DA as well.

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2010-03-22 7:58 AM
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Sweet, a pink & white bike to match your pedi. Cool

gopennstate - 2010-03-21 10:38 PM
PennState - 2010-03-21 10:00 AM Felt DA is very nice.

GPS also rides the DA.


Shhhh!    I might be selling it.  I have a potential buyer if it's the right size.   This is the one I want.  http://www.quintanarootri.com/_bike.asp?content=Dulce

Much more my style. 

Jorge rides the DA as well.


2010-03-22 8:08 AM
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Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread
gopennstate - 2010-03-21 8:38 PM

PennState - 2010-03-21 10:00 AM Felt DA is very nice.

GPS also rides the DA.


Shhhh!    I might be selling it.  I have a potential buyer if it's the right size.   This is the one I want.  http://www.quintanarootri.com/_bike.asp?content=Dulce

Much more my style. 

Jorge rides the DA as well.


My wife rides the Dulce! She loves it, she has the wgite and blue one from last year.
2010-03-22 8:13 AM
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Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread
gopennstate - 2010-03-21 9:38 PM
PennState - 2010-03-21 10:00 AM Felt DA is very nice.

GPS also rides the DA.


Shhhh!    I might be selling it.  I have a potential buyer if it's the right size.   This is the one I want.  http://www.quintanarootri.com/_bike.asp?content=Dulce

Much more my style. 

Jorge rides the DA as well.


are you insane?!?!
2010-03-22 8:21 AM
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Monty - 2010-03-21 8:20 PM
Monty - 2010-03-21 8:05 PM Probably riding this setup minus the tail cage holders.
Let's try this again.


Fred, very nice but you need to do something about all that extra cabling from the aero bars!
2010-03-22 8:51 AM
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JorgeM - 2010-03-22 9:21 AM
Monty - 2010-03-21 8:20 PM
Monty - 2010-03-21 8:05 PM Probably riding this setup minus the tail cage holders.
Let's try this again.


Fred, very nice but you need to do something about all that extra cabling from the aero bars!


Black electrical tape.  I can show you what Jorge did to my bike last year to fix all that.
2010-03-22 9:30 AM
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Subject: RE: Ironman USA Lake Placid : Official Thread
When I stopped by the shop on Thursday I saw my new bike come out of the box.  (Picture on FB) I will be rolling a Blue Triad with the aerobars under the base bar.  Also going with Zipp R2C shifters.  If memory serves, I have about 13 cm of drop from saddle to pads.

I will hit the wind tunnel next month to get everything finalized and then it's hammer time.  I can't freaking wait!!!


2010-03-22 10:10 AM
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gopennstate - 2010-03-22 8:51 AM

JorgeM - 2010-03-22 9:21 AM
Monty - 2010-03-21 8:20 PM
Monty - 2010-03-21 8:05 PM Probably riding this setup minus the tail cage holders.
Let's try this again.


Fred, very nice but you need to do something about all that extra cabling from the aero bars!


Black electrical tape.  I can show you what Jorge did to my bike last year to fix all that.
Please show! This was my bike pic, but Fred does ride the same Slice. I only hope to go as fast as Fred!
2010-03-22 10:29 AM
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PennState - 2010-03-21 6:29 AM

Nice bikes so far, hopefully others will post theirs.

Again, you will see a ton of road bikes with clip-ons at LP as well.



Heh. Was waiting for someone to add "not that there's anything WRONG with that..."

:-P

Everyone has really nice bikes. With nice whooshy wheels.

That is all.



 
2010-03-22 10:50 AM
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Fred (or others) - I was wondering if you could talk more about your caution against over-training and injury prevention at this point in the season.  If I recall, you said it in response to a post about a long weekend ride.  My gut feeling is that big bike miles are one of the safer ways to put up some big mileage right now.  At least safer than ramping up run mileage too quickly.



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2010-03-22 11:47 AM
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JoshKaptur - 2010-03-22 11:50 AM Fred (or others) - I was wondering if you could talk more about your caution against over-training and injury prevention at this point in the season.  If I recall, you said it in response to a post about a long weekend ride.  My gut feeling is that big bike miles are one of the safer ways to put up some big mileage right now.  At least safer than ramping up run mileage too quickly.



IMO, the time for those 4-5 hour rides is now. 

however, if you haven't been doing 3 hour rides the past few months, you're probably going to struggle with a 4 hour ride, at IM intensity....sure, you could go out there and hit the 4 hours, but you would be better off, IMO, doing a solid Z2 with a little bit of tempo for 3 hours.

over-training is a non issue for us all.  We are all undertrained for the event thus far....nothing wrong with that, its just a fact of life with jobs, family and kids.

Injury prevention is just being smart, listening to your body and being honest with what your body can handle.  Don't go looking for excuses as to why you can't handle something.  99% of the time, its too much too soon or an intensity level you are not ready for.  Over training is never (for people on BT) the result of this....injury is.

all that being said and looking at your logs, seems to me you need to get in the pool!!!

EDIT:  wow...you are going to run 56 miles this week?  wow, I'd more concernd about that than a 80 mile bike ride.

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2010-03-22 12:06 PM
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cusetri - 2010-03-22 11:47 AM

JoshKaptur - 2010-03-22 11:50 AM Fred (or others) - I was wondering if you could talk more about your caution against over-training and injury prevention at this point in the season.  If I recall, you said it in response to a post about a long weekend ride.  My gut feeling is that big bike miles are one of the safer ways to put up some big mileage right now.  At least safer than ramping up run mileage too quickly.



IMO, the time for those 4-5 hour rides is now. 

however, if you haven't been doing 3 hour rides the past few months, you're probably going to struggle with a 4 hour ride, at IM intensity....sure, you could go out there and hit the 4 hours, but you would be better off, IMO, doing a solid Z2 with a little bit of tempo for 3 hours.

over-training is a non issue for us all.  We are all undertrained for the event thus far....nothing wrong with that, its just a fact of life with jobs, family and kids.

Injury prevention is just being smart, listening to your body and being honest with what your body can handle.  Don't go looking for excuses as to why you can't handle something.  99% of the time, its too much too soon or an intensity level you are not ready for.  Over training is never (for people on BT) the result of this....injury is.

all that being said and looking at your logs, seems to me you need to get in the pool!!!

EDIT:  wow...you are going to run 56 miles this week?  wow, I'd more concernd about that than a 80 mile bike ride.
I agree about the run comment here. 56 miles this early for 1 week sounds really extreme unless you are training for a marathon in the next couple of weeks as well as IMLP. I haven't looked at your logs so this may be appropriate for your training I think Fed was just telling us to be cautious and to build slowly. I did an 89 mile bike on Friday and he was telling me to be cautious. Over the past couple of weeks I did a couple 3-3.5hr rides and this was a step up to 4.5. I doubt Fred went over my logs to see if it was a good decision, he was merely giving a heads up which I appreciate. All the IM plans I have seen have the long rides at 4-5 hours by this point. Obviously you can't just jump in there and I think that was the jist of the message...make sure you are building slow and steady. Good luck to everyone and hope your training is coming along nicely. 4 months and 3 days to go!


2010-03-22 12:23 PM
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Monty - 2010-03-22 1:06 PM ...  All the IM plans I have seen have the long rides at 4-5 hours by this point. Obviously you can't just jump in there and I think that was the jist of the message...make sure you are building slow and steady. Good luck to everyone and hope your training is coming along nicely. 4 months and 3 days to go!


Hmm. Maybe because it's the free/first IM race version, but the BT IM training plan doesn't have any three hour rides until about three weeks from now. I'm starting to think your comment coupled with the "4 months and 3 days to go!" observation mean me and DC should start a wigging out club.

Surprised


2010-03-22 12:30 PM
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swishyskirt - 2010-03-22 1:23 PM
Monty - 2010-03-22 1:06 PM ...  All the IM plans I have seen have the long rides at 4-5 hours by this point. Obviously you can't just jump in there and I think that was the jist of the message...make sure you are building slow and steady. Good luck to everyone and hope your training is coming along nicely. 4 months and 3 days to go!


Hmm. Maybe because it's the free/first IM race version, but the BT IM training plan doesn't have any three hour rides until about three weeks from now. I'm starting to think your comment coupled with the "4 months and 3 days to go!" observation mean me and DC should start a wigging out club.

Surprised




the problem with the BT plans and pre-written plans is they take nothing about your personal situation into consideration.

You probably will be doing other races, that will eat away at the weekends when most do their long rides.  Than you're going to have life get in the way as well--this plan doesnt realize that.

So, when I say you should be doing those rides now, it's because in all liklihood, we don't have as many opportunities as we think to do them.

Over the past 3 months, I have missed a 3 hour ride due to sickness and a would be 4 hour ride due to a race weekend.....

so no, no reason to freak out, just realize you probably have 5-7 less long ride days than you think you do.....that still leaves you plenty, if you get on them now....
2010-03-22 12:40 PM
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cusetri, you are going to start a panic amongst first timers!!!!!  You have a bit of talent and a lot of base and can handle that (and have been worked up to it)

IMO 4-5 hour rides are not necessary this early in the season, especially if it is to be on the trainer!  First time round my rides didn't go longer than 3hrs til mid April.  There is plenty of time to do them.

I also disagree that you should be putting tempo into long rides automatically.  For less talented first timers who are aiming to finish then most of their long riding should be done at z2, going for time in the saddle to prepare for race day.
Yes, I would put a bit of intensity stuff in but keep it to the shorter rides, especially this early in the season

Oh and by the way I don't think I'm undertrained for the event "at this point in the season" 
2010-03-22 12:51 PM
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Thanks for the personalized feedback all.  In defense of 56 miles of running this week.

My run volume for the last 9 weeks:
41, 47, 24 (recovery), 49, 47, 51, 29 (recovery), 43, 50

All of that is done on 7-9 runs per week, with a weekly long run of only 12-14 miles, with no speedwork.  I got there via the "run lots, mostly slow, sometimes fast" method.  My times have dropped significantly, I've lost about 30 pounds, and I FEEL great.  I can't remember the last time I had a run with an avg HR above 150.  Whereas I used to be a very injury prone runner at 20-25 miles per week, all done too hard.

I don't have any marathons planned, though I wanted to... but I took the counsel of others who said running a marathon in prep for IM would just take away from my IM training.  So I trained through the winter on my run fitness (I hate the trainer and dont' bike in the cold), so that I'd be basically in marathon shape, but not actually run the marathon.

My plan has me reducing my running mileage to a maintenance phase while increasing bike time significantly as the weather + daylight situation improves.

All that said, I am very open to opinions that I'm running too much????
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