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4agoodlife - 2013-04-02 11:01 AM Jo- are you using clips with Andrew or keeping regular pedals for awhile? I'm debating on putting my flat pedals back on for another few rides off trainer or telling myself to just suck it up and go for it. eeek :/

To conquer the phobia I went back to flat pedals.  no cages or anything to make me feel trapped.  Funnily on stopping my right foot stayed firmly on the pedal and left foot down, so converting back to clips shouldn't bother me too much!  I hope!  If not, I'll stay with the pedals, why not - a bit of old school pedal power!

I could do " modified" cages... No strap around foot but cage over top of toe. Helped with slippage but didn't feel trapped. (I say as I clip in.... clip out)

Maybe I'm an oddball (maybe?) but I got the whole clip in/clip out thing pretty quick.  Or at least I didn't bite it right away.  Clipping out wasn't the hard part, it was figuring out clipping in.

Exactly. When I haven't ridden in a while, I struggle getting clipped in the first few times.


2013-04-01 9:07 PM
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4agoodlife - 2013-04-01 4:58 PM
jobaxas - 2013-04-01 4:55 PM

Skrat - tell the pod about your run....

LOL...I think we've all read it Tongue out 

I just want to know if he left out any details.

Me leave out details... you don't know me to well do you.. ?  LOL

2013-04-01 9:09 PM
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4agoodlife - 2013-04-01 5:30 PM
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4agoodlife - 2013-04-02 11:58 AM
jobaxas - 2013-04-01 4:55 PM

Skrat - tell the pod about your run....

LOL...I think we've all read it Tongue out 

I just want to know if he left out any details.

And here I am happy if someone nods at me on my run....or even a hello - imagine getting picked up!  Awesome.

hehehehe...ditto. I'll blame it on my dull-colored shoes. Wink

Nice one...  I love how many of our topics come full circle / blend together.  

2013-04-01 9:12 PM
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ponderingfox - 2013-04-01 6:16 PM
4agoodlife - 2013-04-01 7:09 PM
jobaxas - 2013-04-01 4:03 PM

4agoodlife - 2013-04-02 11:01 AM Jo- are you using clips with Andrew or keeping regular pedals for awhile? I'm debating on putting my flat pedals back on for another few rides off trainer or telling myself to just suck it up and go for it. eeek :/

To conquer the phobia I went back to flat pedals.  no cages or anything to make me feel trapped.  Funnily on stopping my right foot stayed firmly on the pedal and left foot down, so converting back to clips shouldn't bother me too much!  I hope!  If not, I'll stay with the pedals, why not - a bit of old school pedal power!

I could do " modified" cages... No strap around foot but cage over top of toe. Helped with slippage but didn't feel trapped. (I say as I clip in.... clip out)

Maybe I'm an oddball (maybe?) but I got the whole clip in/clip out thing pretty quick.  Or at least I didn't bite it right away.  Clipping out wasn't the hard part, it was figuring out clipping in.

X2... Both times I have "turtled" was with my toe clips.   No problem when I traded them for clipless pedals / shoes.  BTW.. why do they call them "clipless" when you "clip" in..?  I've never understood that.

2013-04-01 9:47 PM
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Muskrat37 - 2013-04-02 2:12 PM
ponderingfox - 2013-04-01 6:16 PM
4agoodlife - 2013-04-01 7:09 PM
jobaxas - 2013-04-01 4:03 PM

4agoodlife - 2013-04-02 11:01 AM Jo- are you using clips with Andrew or keeping regular pedals for awhile? I'm debating on putting my flat pedals back on for another few rides off trainer or telling myself to just suck it up and go for it. eeek :/

To conquer the phobia I went back to flat pedals.  no cages or anything to make me feel trapped.  Funnily on stopping my right foot stayed firmly on the pedal and left foot down, so converting back to clips shouldn't bother me too much!  I hope!  If not, I'll stay with the pedals, why not - a bit of old school pedal power!

I could do " modified" cages... No strap around foot but cage over top of toe. Helped with slippage but didn't feel trapped. (I say as I clip in.... clip out)

Maybe I'm an oddball (maybe?) but I got the whole clip in/clip out thing pretty quick.  Or at least I didn't bite it right away.  Clipping out wasn't the hard part, it was figuring out clipping in.

X2... Both times I have "turtled" was with my toe clips.   No problem when I traded them for clipless pedals / shoes.  BTW.. why do they call them "clipless" when you "clip" in..?  I've never understood that.

Sonmeone explained on Tritalk once it's coz the old way was toe clips...so now they say clipless, coz you don't have toe clips....but I'm with you, you clip in so surely they are clips right?

 

2013-04-01 10:57 PM
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Hey all--craptastic day today--I couldn't even get a workout in to decompress thanks to a stupid paper I needed to finish! Yell The worst part of my day: my mom emailed me to let me know that my dad is having heart surgery tomorrow! I guess its a common procedure, where they run a probe or something into his heart to see what the blockage is--totally outpatient and very normal; of course if they find anything, then they will be keeping him and possibly try to fix it....but I am still really worried. My dad is acting normal, smiling, and working on his stamp collection, but I know he is scared too. Please keep him in your thoughts. 

Thanks manatees.



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kgore - 2013-04-02 3:57 PM

Hey all--craptastic day today--I couldn't even get a workout in to decompress thanks to a stupid paper I needed to finish! Yell The worst part of my day: my mom emailed me to let me know that my dad is having heart surgery tomorrow! I guess its a common procedure, where they run a probe or something into his heart to see what the blockage is--totally outpatient and very normal; of course if they find anything, then they will be keeping him and possibly try to fix it....but I am still really worried. My dad is acting normal, smiling, and working on his stamp collection, but I know he is scared too. Please keep him in your thoughts. 

Thanks manatees.

Always a worry, hope he's okay and you take a big hug from across the oceans.

2013-04-01 11:23 PM
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kgore - 2013-04-01 8:57 PM

Hey all--craptastic day today--I couldn't even get a workout in to decompress thanks to a stupid paper I needed to finish! Yell The worst part of my day: my mom emailed me to let me know that my dad is having heart surgery tomorrow! I guess its a common procedure, where they run a probe or something into his heart to see what the blockage is--totally outpatient and very normal; of course if they find anything, then they will be keeping him and possibly try to fix it....but I am still really worried. My dad is acting normal, smiling, and working on his stamp collection, but I know he is scared too. Please keep him in your thoughts. 

Thanks manatees.

Thoughts and prayers Kate. 

2013-04-01 11:32 PM
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kgore - 2013-04-01 8:57 PM

Hey allPositivestic day today--I couldn't even get a workout in to decompress thanks to a stupid paper I needed to finish! Yell The worst part of my day: my mom emailed me to let me know that my dad is having heart surgery tomorrow! I guess its a common procedure, where they run a probe or something into his heart to see what the blockage is--totally outpatient and very normal; of course if they find anything, then they will be keeping him and possibly try to fix it....but I am still really worried. My dad is acting normal, smiling, and working on his stamp collection, but I know he is scared too. Please keep him in your thoughts. 

Thanks manatees.

Heart procedures are always a little scary. Positive thoughts headed his way.
2013-04-01 11:53 PM
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Before I go to bed and forget about Easter til next year...





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2013-04-02 6:01 AM
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kgore - 2013-04-01 10:57 PM

Hey all--craptastic day today--I couldn't even get a workout in to decompress thanks to a stupid paper I needed to finish! Yell The worst part of my day: my mom emailed me to let me know that my dad is having heart surgery tomorrow! I guess its a common procedure, where they run a probe or something into his heart to see what the blockage is--totally outpatient and very normal; of course if they find anything, then they will be keeping him and possibly try to fix it....but I am still really worried. My dad is acting normal, smiling, and working on his stamp collection, but I know he is scared too. Please keep him in your thoughts. 

Thanks manatees.

Will do



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4agoodlife - 2013-04-01 11:53 PM

Before I go to bed and forget about Easter til next year...

Great pics!

2013-04-02 6:23 AM
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4agoodlife - 2013-04-02 11:53 AM

Before I go to bed and forget about Easter til next year...

Sweet little piglets all!

I put these up on FB--people seem to think these are oddly-colored eggs, but they look normal to me! Pretty!

In any case, most fun and ultimately most delicious.

   

2013-04-02 6:25 AM
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kgore - 2013-04-01 11:57 PM

Hey all--craptastic day today--I couldn't even get a workout in to decompress thanks to a stupid paper I needed to finish! Yell The worst part of my day: my mom emailed me to let me know that my dad is having heart surgery tomorrow! I guess its a common procedure, where they run a probe or something into his heart to see what the blockage is--totally outpatient and very normal; of course if they find anything, then they will be keeping him and possibly try to fix it....but I am still really worried. My dad is acting normal, smiling, and working on his stamp collection, but I know he is scared too. Please keep him in your thoughts. 

Thanks manatees.

Kate- you and yours have been in my prayers for a bit now. I hope that it will all go planned.

2013-04-02 6:31 AM
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kgore - 2013-04-01 11:57 PM

Hey all--craptastic day today--I couldn't even get a workout in to decompress thanks to a stupid paper I needed to finish! Yell The worst part of my day: my mom emailed me to let me know that my dad is having heart surgery tomorrow! I guess its a common procedure, where they run a probe or something into his heart to see what the blockage is--totally outpatient and very normal; of course if they find anything, then they will be keeping him and possibly try to fix it....but I am still really worried. My dad is acting normal, smiling, and working on his stamp collection, but I know he is scared too. Please keep him in your thoughts. 

Thanks manatees.

Kate- you and yours have been in my prayers for a bit now. I hope that it will all go planned.

x2 I've been thinking of you a lot. I remember when you posted about your dad's health problems and his unwillingness. I pray you both find strength and peace here, and maybe some inspiration for him to make some good choices for his health.

2013-04-02 7:38 AM
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bcraht - 2013-04-01 6:45 PM

Just got boring old white 'n orange adidas...But they make my feet happy, so I go with 'em.

The weather is so beautiful today, I decided to ride my bike to work.  First day of outside riding this year...always, always, always trepidation about flats.  Almost backed out because of it, but told myself to HTFU.  So I get to work--oh, we were just trying to call you to tell you it's slow and don't come in!  I'm kinda glad I didn't get the call, because I likely would've jammed on the ride, and just gotten on the trainer... In the end, I rode the long way home.  Three bridges later, drop my bike off at the LBS to finally get narrower handlebars installed.  And maybe some new red bar tape....

It so nice to be able to ride outside in decent weather again (finally!).



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kgore - 2013-04-01 11:57 PM

Hey all--craptastic day today--I couldn't even get a workout in to decompress thanks to a stupid paper I needed to finish! Yell The worst part of my day: my mom emailed me to let me know that my dad is having heart surgery tomorrow! I guess its a common procedure, where they run a probe or something into his heart to see what the blockage is--totally outpatient and very normal; of course if they find anything, then they will be keeping him and possibly try to fix it....but I am still really worried. My dad is acting normal, smiling, and working on his stamp collection, but I know he is scared too. Please keep him in your thoughts. 

Thanks manatees.

Yikes!  "Oh, and by the way, dad is having heart surgery tomorrow.  Carry on!"

I'll definitely be thinking of him today!

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4agoodlife - 2013-04-02 12:53 AM

Before I go to bed and forget about Easter til next year...

Great pictures!  Thanks for sharing! Smile

2013-04-02 7:47 AM
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jobaxas - 2013-04-01 9:11 PM DO EEEEEET!  I'm in.

Wasn't 2014 your original plan anyway?

2013-04-02 9:15 AM
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jobaxas - 2013-04-01 9:11 PM DO EEEEEET!  I'm in.

Good Luck Jo! It looks like you'll have a bit of time to get yourself ready to rock it!

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4agoodlife - 2013-04-01 9:48 PM 

... We got Look clips instead of SPD for my roadie, sooo... fingers crossed anxiety eases with some trainer work.

Erin - I am in favor of using clipless pedals for a couple of reasons. The first is that I am better able to generate power through the entire pedal motion. I can't stress this enough, especially if you ride in a hilly area. My only hills are bridges that are fairly short, but I am very mindful to use the entire stroke on them. Power from the "upstroke" is something that can be a challenge, minimized or lost when using cages or flat pedals. Another aspect I have heard is that using the upstroke can help in a race (or event as I call them) by keeping the running legs fresher. I don't know about the science of that, but it has helped me feel fresher by believing it. This may be the psychology of it all, sort of a "if I believe it, it must be happening" type of thing.

I believe there are 2 kinds of cyclists, those who have gone down and those who will. I got my first one out of the way early in my career while on a group ride and the ego was more bruised than the body. But I learned from it, try to be mindful when riding, and it has become more second nature at this point.   I wonder if sometimes triathletes don't create their own paralysis through analysis at times.  We have such a tendency to analyze what we do, how we do it, etc. There is a certain part of it that is probably best advised with the common Manatee Mantra, "DOOOO EEEETTTT". You'll get more comfortable over time, I'm sure of it. Good Luck!!!

 


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I love the egg Mutti is holding. For all the haters, those colors are totally hip! I would know
2013-04-02 10:47 AM
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cdban66 - 2013-04-02 8:15 AM

4agoodlife - 2013-04-01 9:48 PM 

... We got Look clips instead of SPD for my roadie, sooo... fingers crossed anxiety eases with some trainer work.

Erin - I am in favor of using clipless pedals for a couple of reasons. The first is that I am better able to generate power through the entire pedal motion. I can't stress this enough, especially if you ride in a hilly area. My only hills are bridges that are fairly short, but I am very mindful to use the entire stroke on them. Power from the "upstroke" is something that can be a challenge, minimized or lost when using cages or flat pedals. Another aspect I have heard is that using the upstroke can help in a race (or event as I call them) by keeping the running legs fresher. I don't know about the science of that, but it has helped me feel fresher by believing it. This may be the psychology of it all, sort of a "if I believe it, it must be happening" type of thing.

I believe there are 2 kinds of cyclists, those who have gone down and those who will. I got my first one out of the way early in my career while on a group ride and the ego was more bruised than the body. But I learned from it, try to be mindful when riding, and it has become more second nature at this point.   I wonder if sometimes triathletes don't create their own paralysis through analysis at times.  We have such a tendency to analyze what we do, how we do it, etc. There is a certain part of it that is probably best advised with the common Manatee Mantra, "DOOOO EEEETTTT". You'll get more comfortable over time, I'm sure of it. Good Luck!!!

 

My understanding of why this is better for the run legs is that you utilize different muscles on the upstroke (hamstrings & glutes) and this relieves some of the stress on the quads.  This effect is amplified by a tri bike also.  Over the course of a long ride, this can be very beneficial and help with the run.  

That is just my understanding - doesn't mean it's right.  

"paralysis through analysis" - Love it!

2013-04-02 11:02 AM
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Clipless pedals transfer pressure better because your foot is locked in and the bike shoe sole is stiff.

Upstroke has nothing to do with it (power simply isn't generated then) nor with running off the bike. The mental imagery or physical feeling of a locked-in circular stroke usually means you are "unweighting" the rising foot well so that the downward-pushing foot isn't having to propel the bike AND lift up the weight of the other foot.

Tri bikes are better for running off the bike because your position on them decreases wind resistance, and you therefore use less energy to go the same speed as you would on a road bike.

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TriAya - 2013-04-02 11:02 AM

Clipless pedals transfer pressure better because your foot is locked in and the bike shoe sole is stiff.

Upstroke has nothing to do with it (power simply isn't generated then) nor with running off the bike. The mental imagery or physical feeling of a locked-in circular stroke usually means you are "unweighting" the rising foot well so that the downward-pushing foot isn't having to propel the bike AND lift up the weight of the other foot.

Tri bikes are better for running off the bike because your position on them decreases wind resistance, and you therefore use less energy to go the same speed as you would on a road bike.

This is my understanding too, although I wish the tri bike worked the legs muscles differently to allow for a better run off the bike; I understand that is a myth. Still, getting out of the wind and having more positions available on those long rides is worth the cost of my P2. I love my P2
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