Yanti & Salty MAD MANATEES Mentor Group - FULL POD (Page 77)

I LOVE THAT QUESTION! This is how I answered it recently:

Yanti Yanti BOP Banti banana-nana FOP Fanti ... FOFOP fee Fanti! Yanti!

BOP chicked-a BOP BOP MBOP BBOP a FOP MOP MOP!

I hope that clears everything up.

FOP = Front Of Pack, MOP = Middle Of Pack, BOP = Back Of Pack

Subjective terms but when used in re. a race, to signify where you generally ranked overall.

Well the race organizers still don't have the results posted so I will give you all a couple of hi-lites/lo-lites.  During the run I got the dreaded side cramp.  Was fine up the first hill (I practice those) then when it started to descend the cramp struck.  So pulled out a little WWCD, some WWSD and a lot of HTFU put my fingers in my side and kept moving.  My time did suffer some, but I'm happy I kept moving.  The bike was pretty un-eventful. Then on the swim (this is a reverse tri) when I jumped in I think I was still winded from the bike and run in to the pool so I couldn't get into my normal breathing pattern.  About 25 meters in (50 meter pool) I pulled out some WWYD and some HTFU, got a grip and forced myself into my normal breathing pattern.  Once I got that it got much better.  I liked the 50 meter pool because I could get into a nice groove (maybe even some smooth) before I had to stop.  I actually passed people in the swim!!!! (granted some of them were doing some very... um unconventional... strokes. 

Thank you Yanti and Salty for being in my head yesterday! My total time was just under an hour and a half and I am happy with my progress toward my A race in 4 weeks!

Oh and my runner-son gave me some ideas for getting rid of those stupid side cramps.

Well I hope your happy, Yanti, I'm sitting at my desk singing the "banana-fana song" in my head.  I have a feeling it won't leave willingly...~!

It's official - according to my definition, I AM A TRIATHLETE!!! I had a really good race yesterday (other than the swim, OMG ugh!! Hello sidestroke, I love you because I can breath while I do you!) and had a great time, which is what mattered most to me. We had perfect weather, warm but not hot, and overcast. i just finished my RR. I finished 250m swim, 10 mile bike, 3.5 mile run and 2 transitions in 1:22:22! I was 127 out of 250, not too shabby! And if I was still 29, I would have won my age group (there was only one woman in 25-29, but 13 women in 30-34, of which I was 11th).

So, I've got some work to do on the swim and I'll really need to step up with some brick work to help me improve my run time, but my goal was to get through the swim, average over 15pmh on the bike and run 35 minutes or faster, so all goals met!

Well the race organizers still don't have the results posted so I will give you all a couple of hi-lites/lo-lites.  During the run I got the dreaded side cramp.  Was fine up the first hill (I practice those) then when it started to descend the cramp struck.  So pulled out a little WWCD, some WWSD and a lot of HTFU put my fingers in my side and kept moving.  My time did suffer some, but I'm happy I kept moving.  The bike was pretty un-eventful. Then on the swim (this is a reverse tri) when I jumped in I think I was still winded from the bike and run in to the pool so I couldn't get into my normal breathing pattern.  About 25 meters in (50 meter pool) I pulled out some WWYD and some HTFU, got a grip and forced myself into my normal breathing pattern.  Once I got that it got much better.  I liked the 50 meter pool because I could get into a nice groove (maybe even some smooth) before I had to stop.  I actually passed people in the swim!!!! (granted some of them were doing some very... um unconventional... strokes. 

Thank you Yanti and Salty for being in my head yesterday! My total time was just under an hour and a half and I am happy with my progress toward my A race in 4 weeks!

Oh and my runner-son gave me some ideas for getting rid of those stupid side cramps.

The swim went really well.  I was surprised.  I mean, I was still BOP but I had over a six minute -- almost seven minutes -- improvement over last year.  This is major for me and I feel like all of the swimming and lessons and stuff are paying off. 

In fact, becoming a MOP swimming is starting to seem like it might be realistic!  Woo hoo!

It was a big training weekend for me (swim + 4 hour bike on Saturday, bike + long run brick plus swim on Sunday) and I was away from the computer.  I'll be catching up on the Manatee Action this morning.

I have a question about hydration on long runs.

Short version:   What do you use?

Long version with background information: 

I almost always don't bring anything with me. I go the extra effort to hydrate really well at a minimum the day before and morning of (and then of course afterwards). Most of my routes pass a water fountain or two (which I use) 

This actually ends up being pretty race-relevant as most of the events I run offer water every 3-5 miles or so. 

Generally it's not a problem unless I am going over 18 miles or so. If there is not a water fountain I just stop and buy a bottle and run with it. It's not much different than a hand-held in terms of feel and inconvenience, plus when I am done with it I can toss it rather than carrying an empty bottle around with me.

*If I am on a trail and there isn't water access I would just run with a disposable bottle but if you don't have anywhere to dispose of it, this is where a hand-held might be handy (get it? ha-ha)

Poo!  You were supposed to have better information for me Salty!

Water fountains are not an option in my area.  They simply don't exist.

I have a question about hydration on long runs.

Short version:   What do you use?

You are definitely a fish Jo!  You'll rock it!

I hope that your long ride went well this weekend.

I have a question about hydration on long runs.

Short version:   What do you use?

Long version with background information: 

I have a Nathan belt which is relatively comfy.  I have two problems with it.  (1) In the summer the belt holds the heat in.  In other words, because of the fact that it is a belt holding my shirt down, no air gets in.  This is good in the winter but not so good in the summer.  (2)  The belt rubs on my top causing it to pill.  This makes it difficult to try a potential "race shirt" (no want chaffing!)  for a long run because I don't want anything decent to get messed up. 

Neither good nor bad but the pocket holds a few gels with no problem.  That part is good but you can't get to you shirt pockets with the belt on so that is bad.

The Nathan holds 22 ounces.

Lisa (lisac957) has written about using her handheld and how much she loved it.  I looked into it and said, not willing to spend $20 to try one, thanks.  Then I was cleaning out my training gear and low and behold, I found a Amphipod handheld that I got as race swag a few years ago.  I had completely forgotten about it.  A few weeks ago I had a 90 minute run and I gave it a try.  Pretty decent.  A lot more comfortable than I though.  The sloshing is kind of noisy but you get used to it.  I used it again yesterday and I like it. 

I don't love the top of the bottle.  It seems a bit awkward to open up.  The bill it as "sip-to-gulp" but it's just kind of annoying.   This model holds 12 ounces of liquid.

That brings me to my question:  Have any of you tried a 20 oz handheld?  I like the flat design of the Amphipod and I wondering if the 20 oz is difficult (more difficult?) to carry.  I was sort of thinking of getting a 20oz Hydraform Thermal. 

It's not the money I just don't want a bunch of unused belts and bottles hanging around.

Thanks!

Sounds like everyone had a good weekend.  Congrats to the Manatee racers for meeting your goals!!  I am pleased to say I completed my goal of finishing my first OLY last Saturday.  I got through the swim which always causes anxiety.  The water was in the mid 60s, so a wetsuit was recommended.  I have to admit, I really like the wetsuit.  For slower swimmers like myself, it really does make you go a little faster.  I was really pleased with swimming 1640 yards in 35 minutes.   

The bike was a bit of a struggle, but I can't complain too much.  I thought 1 hour and 25 minutes wasn't too bad for 25.6 miles.  

I don't know my run split because it was never posted, but I figured it was at least 53-54 minutes.  My overall time was 3 hours flat and 56 seconds.

I finished BOP but I was really proud that I finished and it was a lot of fun.  I got to see my sister kick major a$$ and get second overall in the ladies!!!  She did it in 2 hours 20 minutes!!!!   Amazing! 

I just need some more T.I.T.S and I'll be ready to conquer my HIM in June.

Hope everyone is having a good day.  I did a small swim after work and plan on spin class this evening.  The girls are home from school.  Time to be a mom.  

I tried a handheld but ended up hurting my shoulder on distances over 15km.   I am lucky in that i run along a beach track with lots of water fountains, and also shops/gas stations where I can buy hydration.  Maybe try and map a route with these options.  Work out when you need to drink and where those stops could be.

On race day I don't think about it as it's offered every 2km.  Like Salty I hydrate the two days leading up to a long run - like a lot!!!

I have a question about hydration on long runs.

Short version:   What do you use?

Long version with background information: 

I have a Nathan belt which is relatively comfy.  I have two problems with it.  (1) In the summer the belt holds the heat in.  In other words, because of the fact that it is a belt holding my shirt down, no air gets in.  This is good in the winter but not so good in the summer.  (2)  The belt rubs on my top causing it to pill.  This makes it difficult to try a potential "race shirt" (no want chaffing!)  for a long run because I don't want anything decent to get messed up. 

Neither good nor bad but the pocket holds a few gels with no problem.  That part is good but you can't get to you shirt pockets with the belt on so that is bad.

The Nathan holds 22 ounces.

Lisa (lisac957) has written about using her handheld and how much she loved it.  I looked into it and said, not willing to spend $20 to try one, thanks.  Then I was cleaning out my training gear and low and behold, I found a Amphipod handheld that I got as race swag a few years ago.  I had completely forgotten about it.  A few weeks ago I had a 90 minute run and I gave it a try.  Pretty decent.  A lot more comfortable than I though.  The sloshing is kind of noisy but you get used to it.  I used it again yesterday and I like it. 

I don't love the top of the bottle.  It seems a bit awkward to open up.  The bill it as "sip-to-gulp" but it's just kind of annoying.   This model holds 12 ounces of liquid.

That brings me to my question:  Have any of you tried a 20 oz handheld?  I like the flat design of the Amphipod and I wondering if the 20 oz is difficult (more difficult?) to carry.  I was sort of thinking of getting a 20oz Hydraform Thermal. 

It's not the money I just don't want a bunch of unused belts and bottles hanging around.

Thanks!

Thanks but water fountains are simply not done around here.

Hydrating before a long run is not a good option during IM training since the long run day is preceded by the long ride day.  After riding 5-6 hours, even drinking 16+ ounces per hour, you send the time between the ride and run catching up. 

I'm trying to get the gear in place leading up to the 2-3 hour runs.

Sounds like everyone had a good weekend.  Congrats to the Manatee racers for meeting your goals!!  I am pleased to say I completed my goal of finishing my first OLY last Saturday.  I got through the swim which always causes anxiety.  The water was in the mid 60s, so a wetsuit was recommended.  I have to admit, I really like the wetsuit.  For slower swimmers like myself, it really does make you go a little faster.  I was really pleased with swimming 1640 yards in 35 minutes.   

The bike was a bit of a struggle, but I can't complain too much.  I thought 1 hour and 25 minutes wasn't too bad for 25.6 miles.  

I don't know my run split because it was never posted, but I figured it was at least 53-54 minutes.  My overall time was 3 hours flat and 56 seconds.

I finished BOP but I was really proud that I finished and it was a lot of fun.  I got to see my sister kick major a$$ and get second overall in the ladies!!!  She did it in 2 hours 20 minutes!!!!   Amazing! 

I just need some more T.I.T.S and I'll be ready to conquer my HIM in June.

Hope everyone is having a good day.  I did a small swim after work and plan on spin class this evening.  The girls are home from school.  Time to be a mom.  

Sounds like everyone had a good weekend.  Congrats to the Manatee racers for meeting your goals!!  I am pleased to say I completed my goal of finishing my first OLY last Saturday.  I got through the swim which always causes anxiety.  The water was in the mid 60s, so a wetsuit was recommended.  I have to admit, I really like the wetsuit.  For slower swimmers like myself, it really does make you go a little faster.  I was really pleased with swimming 1640 yards in 35 minutes.   

The bike was a bit of a struggle, but I can't complain too much.  I thought 1 hour and 25 minutes wasn't too bad for 25.6 miles.  

I don't know my run split because it was never posted, but I figured it was at least 53-54 minutes.  My overall time was 3 hours flat and 56 seconds.

I finished BOP but I was really proud that I finished and it was a lot of fun.  I got to see my sister kick major a$$ and get second overall in the ladies!!!  She did it in 2 hours 20 minutes!!!!   Amazing! 

I just need some more T.I.T.S and I'll be ready to conquer my HIM in June.

Hope everyone is having a good day.  I did a small swim after work and plan on spin class this evening.  The girls are home from school.  Time to be a mom.  

Sounds like everyone had a good weekend.  Congrats to the Manatee racers for meeting your goals!!  I am pleased to say I completed my goal of finishing my first OLY last Saturday.  I got through the swim which always causes anxiety.  The water was in the mid 60s, so a wetsuit was recommended.  I have to admit, I really like the wetsuit.  For slower swimmers like myself, it really does make you go a little faster.  I was really pleased with swimming 1640 yards in 35 minutes.   

The bike was a bit of a struggle, but I can't complain too much.  I thought 1 hour and 25 minutes wasn't too bad for 25.6 miles.  

I don't know my run split because it was never posted, but I figured it was at least 53-54 minutes.  My overall time was 3 hours flat and 56 seconds.

I finished BOP but I was really proud that I finished and it was a lot of fun.  I got to see my sister kick major a$$ and get second overall in the ladies!!!  She did it in 2 hours 20 minutes!!!!   Amazing! 

I just need some more T.I.T.S and I'll be ready to conquer my HIM in June.

Hope everyone is having a good day.  I did a small swim after work and plan on spin class this evening.  The girls are home from school.  Time to be a mom.  

Sounds like everyone had a good weekend.  Congrats to the Manatee racers for meeting your goals!!  I am pleased to say I completed my goal of finishing my first OLY last Saturday.  I got through the swim which always causes anxiety.  The water was in the mid 60s, so a wetsuit was recommended.  I have to admit, I really like the wetsuit.  For slower swimmers like myself, it really does make you go a little faster.  I was really pleased with swimming 1640 yards in 35 minutes.   

The bike was a bit of a struggle, but I can't complain too much.  I thought 1 hour and 25 minutes wasn't too bad for 25.6 miles.  

I don't know my run split because it was never posted, but I figured it was at least 53-54 minutes.  My overall time was 3 hours flat and 56 seconds.

I finished BOP but I was really proud that I finished and it was a lot of fun.  I got to see my sister kick major a$$ and get second overall in the ladies!!!  She did it in 2 hours 20 minutes!!!!   Amazing! 

I just need some more T.I.T.S and I'll be ready to conquer my HIM in June.

Hope everyone is having a good day.  I did a small swim after work and plan on spin class this evening.  The girls are home from school.  Time to be a mom.