Mad Manatees Mentor Group - VERY CLOSED!!! Sorry! (Page 77)

Check out the thread in TT: http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=475752&posts=12&start=1

Personally, I think everyone has their own ideal way to run. If you are conservative and sloooowly and cautiously increase volume and frequency your body will naturally adjust to run as efficiently as it can and is supposed to. 

4agoodlife - 2013-01-24 6:06 PM

Asalzwed - 2013-01-24 10:20 AM

This is a really big training week (miles) so I was a little curious about how last night's track workout was going to go, especially within the full week. (that of course is still TBD)

Also, just to keep things interesting I forgot my sports bra AND socks AND all of my stuff was wet from my jog earlier in the day. SO ... there you have it, the start of my track workout in soggy clothes, a regular bra and dress socks (again.)

Anyway, the workout was 4 x 1600 with 2.5 minutes rest in between.

I decided to buck up and go with the faster group. We were supposed to go @ 6:27 pace per mile.

We hit 6:22 on the first mile and it felt sooo smooth and easy. Of course we were doing 4 so I didn't want to get ahead of myself.

Rep number 2 we got in 6:18. My coach gave us the go ahead to conservatively keep it up so the next two were 6:16 and 6:12! For the first time I dropped everyone in that last mile and felt great! 

This is coming into week 7 of marathon training so it seems to be falling in that 4-6 weeks where you start to see training adaptions taking place. Anyway, it's really exciting to see changes happening!

My first thought after She's so freaky fast! was Where was egomaniac guy and did she get a flyby pic of his face?

Ha! He wasn't there.

Rock on! I wonder if there's any kind of running group like this around where I am.  Sounds like a lot of fun.

So, what do you do?

I don't know this please enlighten me!

I haven't done a "personality test" since HS. Is there a decent one online? Now I'm curious. Totally missed those couple of pages til I went back in the thread.

StaceyK - 2013-01-24 6:21 PM

jobaxas - 2013-01-25 7:00 AMAt least you had shoes.....me no sports bra - well I could run but I would probably have two black eyes.

mmm for me no sports bra (otherwise known as scaffolding in my house) means no running, not even around the dog show ring

Ditto.  It is not pleasant if I don't have a sports bra.

You've been doing that *voluntarily*!  I don't think you could pay me enough to do that.  I'm complaining that it was 25F today.  I'm a wimp now that I live in the South where we don't get such cold weather.  I don't have the right clothes anymore.

Try www.humanmetrics.com to see what they're talking about. I just took the test for fun

LMAO and clapping and barking like the proud seal I am.

While the bolded part is very impressive, I do want to reiterate to everybody how you got there ... because you dragged your azz out every day, rain shine weather regardless, and busted it out ... slowly. Over miles, over time, CONSISTENCY.

hop hop bark bark {MELON PRESS}

YANTI STORY TIME!

I wear big sparkly dangly earrings on every single one of my long runs (I had Christmas earrings in my IMWA trans bag but forgot to put them on!) and marathons. Ah! You can see them here in my Calif In'tl Marathon finisher photo.

But why, you ask? Well, see ... I went to this Hallowe'en party (dressed as Princess Jasmine, but like evil and on crack, from Aladdin) and kinda sorta went home with this lumberjack who turned out to be a triathlete. ANYWAY ... OF COURSE the next day is our marathon long run training day ... I totally oversleep and do not remotely have time to go home to get my things. Triathlete boy (no, I have no idea what his name was ... I think it was Chris something or other; he was an undergrad at USC while I was teaching there. But he was a music student and they're weird so it doesn't count ) had a pair of running shorts and tech socks he loaned me, I had my runnies in my car so that was all good ... ARGH! Sports bra! We made one out of a pair of his tighty whities (see below for example). And he actually gave me a triathlon finisher shirt to run in--very cool. I was not a triathlete yet, but I thought that was very cool.

So I show up at the long run--I really have to because, gulp, I'm the pacer/guardian/cheerleader for my group--in this getup, a crapton of (smeared) makeup on my face, and it turns out to be a good thing because my group burned a good 10 miles just making fun of me.

I had forgotten to take my big dangly sparkly Princess Jasmine earrings off. I ran the whole damn run with them on!

Ever since then, it was just a thing. I had to wear my hooker earrings on long runs/races.

Lying awake in the wee hours of the morning negotiating with my grim memories and personal haints there nothing to do for it but to exercise said devils with the genius of Beethoven.  Silence is golden and usually does the trick. One of his most under rated works.  Medicating with music.

Don't mind me as these moods always pass and I will return to an equanimity with the coming of morning light.

I just learned two new words .  Hope you find some peace.

I hear your silence, and his.

{MELON PRESS}

I can see that. Basically it means you're like me but actually humble and don't have to announce to the world everything you do (nor expect that everyone else do it, too).

Yeah, so speaking of announcing stuff and race stories ... I try to post this each Manatee season and haven't yet, so here's the race report and picture proof of my first triathlon--it was a reverse tri, so I managed to look like the Swamp Thing in a Cotton Bra at the finish. The other pic is of the same bike I used (sans horn) but at a later race.

I AM TRI-ATHENA!!!

posted 04/10/05

Many thanks to my well-wishers (and by the way, I've enabled non-member comments again).  I am tremendously pleased to report that I am indeed alive, moreover, having as much skin as I entered the triathlon with, and if any other racers don't, at least it wasn't on account of me.

And, since I am making the world a better place simply because people laugh a lot when they see me (not sure why ... must ponder ... ) I tootled my turtle-squeaky-horn with vigor every time I passed a race volunteer. By the third lap some of them were chanting, "Squeak that cute horn!" I hope they were talking about the turtle.

I didn't come in dead last, either, which really surprised me.  Triathletes are a pretty dedicated bunch--I mean, THEY didn't have squeaky horns or streamers on their bikes--but I finished in the top five in my division (okay, okay, there were only five in my division).  

I wasn't last in the run (the first leg), but I was by far the last cyclist in--even the runners behind me had overtaken me.  However, I passed several people in the transition between bike/swim and then charged ahead of several more during the swim.  And now I really am going to tootle my own horn (I deserve it, dammit!)--I'm a great swimmer.  I clocked a faster swim time than some of the top finishers, despite that on the last 150m both my legs were completely cramped up and I was windmilling ahead on arms only, pulling dead leg weight behind me.

Not bad for a little girl who just learned how to ride a bicycle.

A final note: technically, this was a 'sprint' triathlon--4mi run, 10mi bike, 400m swim. All I can say is, no bloody event lasting more than ten minutes should ever be called a sprint.  Ever.

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Kirsten and Skrat -- overall, yes, I agree with this. Some finer points:

I assume you'd be adding TWO ~1500m swims for a total of 4 workouts per week? Yes, I'd definitely add the two workouts, and do them in intervals ... HARD intervals. If you really need to, take the first 1-2 intervals as warm-up, but frankly, you're not gonna die if you don't. You might feel like it, but that's kind of the point.

There are two general ways to do HARD intervals: either on a send-off time that's just barely within your grasp (and perhaps not at all for the last 2 repeats or so) OR to extend them 50-100m beyond what you feel like you can swim hard. In that sense, an A x 100m type set with some B x 250m could be ideal, provided that around 200 is where your hard swimming starts to trail off / break down in form / slow down / etc.

I'm not sold on the value of a long continuous swim unless someone's swimming 5-6x/week and really focusing on swimming ... honestly, possibly not even then. There is no doubt that if you can suffer through a tough 1500m main set or workout, you can swim a solid continuous 1500m in race conditions. In terms of ROI for swim time, unless someone's actually swimming TO BE A SWIMMER with that kind of training time available and actually done, I think the long continuous swim is weak.

The exception is that a 1000/1500 yd/m time trial can be very helpful for setting productive interval training paces and gauging progress. With a proper warmup and cool-down, seems like a good idea (if you're swimming a lot and want to focus that much on it) every couple of months.