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2017-01-04 12:24 PM in reply to: ponderingfox |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by ponderingfox Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by ponderingfox Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by ponderingfox NAME: Tom, Fox, Foxy. And there it is! Welcome back! I see that you have a very specific time goal for your 5k. Do you have a plan to get there? I know I have the potential for it. I think it's simply a matter of being consistent and not getting injured. I've had a running injury every year since 2011. I think I've solved all the puzzle pieces, and have invested in some preventative strength training. I have some key races in mind that I want to do well at, and hope to have a productive first half of the year. I think my training mix will be along the lines of a 4/2/2/1 for r/b/s/w. I'm hoping the cycling will contribute to a better lower body health, as well as to aerobic fitness. While maintaining that training for more tri stuff in the middle/latter part of the year. I was just wondering if you've identified some key workouts to improve your speed, etc. Once I get my base mileage up to a comfortable level (at least 20), I'll start doing more speed work. But I've run a 21 min 5k before on 10 mi/wk, so there's that. But my running buddy ran in HS and college, and she's going to make sure we get the speed work in. We have some local tracks that we're going to be using in order to prep for some of our key April races. Excellent! |
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2017-01-04 12:32 PM in reply to: johnthecat |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by johnthecat Originally posted by Jet Black It's not going to be that cold! Originally posted by jmkizer Tell me about it. This morning was the first time I've worn a shirt on a run since last Friday. I'm not sure I have enough clothes for what they're predicting here Sunday morning. I'm pretty sure that I am not alone in this but What's with the wacky weather?! Today I ran in short and a short sleeved shirt. This weekend I will need to wear All The Things. Saw a Saturday low of 31 down there and wondering what the issue is? |
2017-01-04 1:15 PM in reply to: ponderingfox |
Expert 4921 Middle River, Maryland | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by ponderingfox Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by ponderingfox Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by ponderingfox NAME: Tom, Fox, Foxy. And there it is! Welcome back! I see that you have a very specific time goal for your 5k. Do you have a plan to get there? I know I have the potential for it. I think it's simply a matter of being consistent and not getting injured. I've had a running injury every year since 2011. I think I've solved all the puzzle pieces, and have invested in some preventative strength training. I have some key races in mind that I want to do well at, and hope to have a productive first half of the year. I think my training mix will be along the lines of a 4/2/2/1 for r/b/s/w. I'm hoping the cycling will contribute to a better lower body health, as well as to aerobic fitness. While maintaining that training for more tri stuff in the middle/latter part of the year. I was just wondering if you've identified some key workouts to improve your speed, etc. Once I get my base mileage up to a comfortable level (at least 20), I'll start doing more speed work. But I've run a 21 min 5k before on 10 mi/wk, so there's that. But my running buddy ran in HS and college, and she's going to make sure we get the speed work in. We have some local tracks that we're going to be using in order to prep for some of our key April races. I had a ton of success using Daniels Running Formula a couple of years ago. PR'd a 5K in Oct @ 22:41 and then again in April the next year @ 21:55, so like 45 seconds. I think I maxed at 25 mpw but the vast majority were in the 12-18 range. I was only doing speed work 1x/week because I was tri training. Increasing frequency to 5x/week really helped me, too, especially resisting injury. |
2017-01-04 1:36 PM in reply to: johnthecat |
812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by johnthecat Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by jmkizer I'm pretty sure that I am not alone in this but What's with the wacky weather?! Today I ran in short and a short sleeved shirt. This weekend I will need to wear All The Things. Tell me about it. This morning was the first time I've worn a shirt on a run since last Friday. I'm not sure I have enough clothes for what they're predicting here Sunday morning. It's not going to be that cold! 28!!!!!!!! #texascold |
2017-01-04 2:01 PM in reply to: jmhpsu93 |
Veteran 1100 Dayton | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by jmhpsu93 I had a ton of success using Daniels Running Formula a couple of years ago. PR'd a 5K in Oct @ 22:41 and then again in April the next year @ 21:55, so like 45 seconds. I think I maxed at 25 mpw but the vast majority were in the 12-18 range. I was only doing speed work 1x/week because I was tri training. Increasing frequency to 5x/week really helped me, too, especially resisting injury. I have that book. The mileage for his 5k stuff starts at 40 mpw, so I'd need to figure out how to adapt it. I'm also training for a HIM in May, so I'll be balancing the distance with the intensity. |
2017-01-04 2:26 PM in reply to: Jet Black |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by johnthecat 28!!!!!!!! #texascold Originally posted by Jet Black It's not going to be that cold! Originally posted by jmkizer Tell me about it. This morning was the first time I've worn a shirt on a run since last Friday. I'm not sure I have enough clothes for what they're predicting here Sunday morning. I'm pretty sure that I am not alone in this but What's with the wacky weather?! Today I ran in short and a short sleeved shirt. This weekend I will need to wear All The Things. The harder you run, the more heat you'll produce! |
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2017-01-04 2:37 PM in reply to: ponderingfox |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by ponderingfox Originally posted by jmhpsu93 I had a ton of success using Daniels Running Formula a couple of years ago. PR'd a 5K in Oct @ 22:41 and then again in April the next year @ 21:55, so like 45 seconds. I think I maxed at 25 mpw but the vast majority were in the 12-18 range. I was only doing speed work 1x/week because I was tri training. Increasing frequency to 5x/week really helped me, too, especially resisting injury. I have that book. The mileage for his 5k stuff starts at 40 mpw, so I'd need to figure out how to adapt it. I'm also training for a HIM in May, so I'll be balancing the distance with the intensity. I've worked with his stuff a fair amount too and do like it. I don't always follow exact, but try to pull things from it. I think the race specific plans (while good) can be a bit much for people who aren't really run focused. 3 hard runs a week is very common and that's going to be too much in multiple ways. I had trouble executing it. Somewhere in there he did say that the more priority run is earlier in the week, so with fewer miles it would seem to just do the first one. I think a better option though would be to work with the more general red & blue plans than trying to look so race specific all the time, even if you really only care about the one distance. It's a trap that many can fall into. These are better designed for running year round and have a good amount of mileage plus hard work is only twice a week instead. I think one could swap some of the blue hard work over into the red plan at times too as the red can be very t-pace heavy while the blue will have a blend with more i-pace & some r-pace. I think the race specific plans will go better after executing these color plans first. Possibly several times in a row if you're having more of a run emphasized year (or longer). The race specific seem to be more for converting a decent general base instead of building up like more people may be used to seeing. |
2017-01-04 2:47 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by ponderingfox Originally posted by jmhpsu93 I had a ton of success using Daniels Running Formula a couple of years ago. PR'd a 5K in Oct @ 22:41 and then again in April the next year @ 21:55, so like 45 seconds. I think I maxed at 25 mpw but the vast majority were in the 12-18 range. I was only doing speed work 1x/week because I was tri training. Increasing frequency to 5x/week really helped me, too, especially resisting injury. I have that book. The mileage for his 5k stuff starts at 40 mpw, so I'd need to figure out how to adapt it. I'm also training for a HIM in May, so I'll be balancing the distance with the intensity. I've worked with his stuff a fair amount too and do like it. I don't always follow exact, but try to pull things from it. I think the race specific plans (while good) can be a bit much for people who aren't really run focused. 3 hard runs a week is very common and that's going to be too much in multiple ways. I had trouble executing it. Somewhere in there he did say that the more priority run is earlier in the week, so with fewer miles it would seem to just do the first one. I think a better option though would be to work with the more general red & blue plans than trying to look so race specific all the time, even if you really only care about the one distance. It's a trap that many can fall into. These are better designed for running year round and have a good amount of mileage plus hard work is only twice a week instead. I think one could swap some of the blue hard work over into the red plan at times too as the red can be very t-pace heavy while the blue will have a blend with more i-pace & some r-pace. I think the race specific plans will go better after executing these color plans first. Possibly several times in a row if you're having more of a run emphasized year (or longer). The race specific seem to be more for converting a decent general base instead of building up like more people may be used to seeing. yeah, not much running and most of it hard seems like a good way to get injured. Tom, I'd just figure out how to get your mileage up first without any intensity. Last winter/spring for ironman build, I got my running up to 40 mpw and all of it at endurance paces. I went out and did a sprint tri for fun before the ironman and ran 6:17/mile. I was floored. I ran 7/mile the previous fall in sprint tris. This would especially be a good plan for you since you're going to do a HIM too, you'll need a rather large base to run well in a HIM. this is following the barryp plan start with this one: http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=2548394 this one is all of his posts/articles: http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=1612485 |
2017-01-04 2:48 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by johnthecat 28!!!!!!!! #texascold Originally posted by Jet Black It's not going to be that cold! Originally posted by jmkizer Tell me about it. This morning was the first time I've worn a shirt on a run since last Friday. I'm not sure I have enough clothes for what they're predicting here Sunday morning. I'm pretty sure that I am not alone in this but What's with the wacky weather?! Today I ran in short and a short sleeved shirt. This weekend I will need to wear All The Things. The harder you run, the more heat you'll produce! Sunday is LSD day |
2017-01-04 4:08 PM in reply to: Jet Black |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Criminey, one short week out and I'm waaaaay behind! Will post bio in a bit... Just back on my feet. We were in LA as a family last week to watch my oldest march in the Rose Bowl Parade (WAY COOL) and take some family SoCal vaca time. It was awesome (except for the 36 hours I spent in bed with the flu - fever broke at 0230 on day of parade and got up at 0420 to go spectate!). Band rocks! Missed a week of running, which is a bummer as I was actually on a plan for the first time in like 2 years and enjoying it. Back at it today, but still a bit wobbly on me feet. Anywho, happy new year one and all! May 2017 be an awesome (and injury/niggle free) superfuntime all around. Matt |
2017-01-04 4:17 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition dang Matt, sorry to hear that you got that sick! Watching your child in the rose parade must have been awesome! Yes, let's all stay injury free!! On another note, my wife is experiencing taper fever for the first time right now and it's hilarious. Is it bad that I'm enjoying her ridiculousness? |
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2017-01-04 4:22 PM in reply to: Jet Black |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by Jet Black dang Matt, sorry to hear that you got that sick! Watching your child in the rose parade must have been awesome! Yes, let's all stay injury free!! On another note, my wife is experiencing taper fever for the first time right now and it's hilarious. Is it bad that I'm enjoying her ridiculousness?
That would be entertaining to watch. "No, honey, I'm pretty sure your leg is not on fire", "No, dear, I don't think those are the symptoms of the plague". |
2017-01-04 4:23 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition One additional update. As some of you know, I served as the Walk Chair for the Austin Light The Night (LLS) walk in 2016, sort of a combined personal (mother passed from leukemia a year prior) and professional (we got the first ever test cleared by the FDA to manage patients with leukemia in July) thing to which I couldn't say "no". Well, I also set a goal to raise enough funds to name a research grant portfolio in honor of my mother and hit my target juuuuuust at the end of the year, thanks to many generous friends/family/colleagues. So, there will now be an Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia grant given in memory of Diane Marie McManus from the national LLS, about which I could not be happier. So, I wanted to take a moment and thank you all for the support over the last year and a half during her illness, passing and my subsequent work with LLS (and relative absence from training). This being that moment, THANK YOU POD! They asked me this morning to serve on the board of the Austin LLS, and I'm about 100% sure I'm going to (just want to make sure it's something I can commit to doing well first). Maybe y'all will see me racing in purple this year instead of orange! It's OK, as I'm not as fast as orange is anymore anyway... and it gives me an excuse besides getting time in the saddle to write T.I.T. Again, happy 2017. Feels like a new year in lots of really great ways. Matt |
2017-01-04 4:27 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by Jet Black dang Matt, sorry to hear that you got that sick! Watching your child in the rose parade must have been awesome! Yes, let's all stay injury free!! On another note, my wife is experiencing taper fever for the first time right now and it's hilarious. Is it bad that I'm enjoying her ridiculousness? That would be entertaining to watch. "No, honey, I'm pretty sure your leg is not on fire", "No, dear, I don't think those are the symptoms of the plague". No dear, you do not need to do a test tempo run to be sure your legs still work. No sweetheart, you're not getting slower by taking one day completely off. Yes dear, there are a lot more hours in the day than you remembered when you're not doing 20-milers... No, you don't need to fill them back up with spin class to avoid getting out of shape over the last week. Love me some taper madness (and so should you)! Matt |
2017-01-04 4:27 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 One additional update. As some of you know, I served as the Walk Chair for the Austin Light The Night (LLS) walk in 2016, sort of a combined personal (mother passed from leukemia a year prior) and professional (we got the first ever test cleared by the FDA to manage patients with leukemia in July) thing to which I couldn't say "no". Well, I also set a goal to raise enough funds to name a research grant portfolio in honor of my mother and hit my target juuuuuust at the end of the year, thanks to many generous friends/family/colleagues. So, there will now be an Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia grant given in memory of Diane Marie McManus from the national LLS, about which I could not be happier. So, I wanted to take a moment and thank you all for the support over the last year and a half during her illness, passing and my subsequent work with LLS (and relative absence from training). This being that moment, THANK YOU POD! They asked me this morning to serve on the board of the Austin LLS, and I'm about 100% sure I'm going to (just want to make sure it's something I can commit to doing well first). Maybe y'all will see me racing in purple this year instead of orange! It's OK, as I'm not as fast as orange is anymore anyway... and it gives me an excuse besides getting time in the saddle to write T.I.T. Again, happy 2017. Feels like a new year in lots of really great ways. Matt Lots of awesomeness here. Congrats on all of it. It'll be fun to watch it develop if you do join the board. |
2017-01-04 4:30 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 One additional update. As some of you know, I served as the Walk Chair for the Austin Light The Night (LLS) walk in 2016, sort of a combined personal (mother passed from leukemia a year prior) and professional (we got the first ever test cleared by the FDA to manage patients with leukemia in July) thing to which I couldn't say "no". Well, I also set a goal to raise enough funds to name a research grant portfolio in honor of my mother and hit my target juuuuuust at the end of the year, thanks to many generous friends/family/colleagues. So, there will now be an Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia grant given in memory of Diane Marie McManus from the national LLS, about which I could not be happier. So, I wanted to take a moment and thank you all for the support over the last year and a half during her illness, passing and my subsequent work with LLS (and relative absence from training). This being that moment, THANK YOU POD! They asked me this morning to serve on the board of the Austin LLS, and I'm about 100% sure I'm going to (just want to make sure it's something I can commit to doing well first). Maybe y'all will see me racing in purple this year instead of orange! It's OK, as I'm not as fast as orange is anymore anyway... and it gives me an excuse besides getting time in the saddle to write T.I.T. Again, happy 2017. Feels like a new year in lots of really great ways. Matt So awesome, Matt, congratulations!
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2017-01-04 4:31 PM in reply to: IronOx |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Thank you for birthday wishes! |
2017-01-04 4:44 PM in reply to: IronOx |
812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by IronOx Thank you for birthday wishes! I missed that, happy birthday! |
2017-01-04 5:16 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Criminey, one short week out and I'm waaaaay behind! Will post bio in a bit... Just back on my feet. We were in LA as a family last week to watch my oldest march in the Rose Bowl Parade (WAY COOL) and take some family SoCal vaca time. It was awesome (except for the 36 hours I spent in bed with the flu - fever broke at 0230 on day of parade and got up at 0420 to go spectate!). Band rocks! Missed a week of running, which is a bummer as I was actually on a plan for the first time in like 2 years and enjoying it. Back at it today, but still a bit wobbly on me feet. Anywho, happy new year one and all! May 2017 be an awesome (and injury/niggle free) superfuntime all around. Matt Welcome back, McMatt! I'm so sorry to hear that you were under the weather -- and while you were on vacation to boot! As a former marching band member, I totally get how cool it is that kid march in the parade. It's definitely a favorite of mine! |
2017-01-04 5:18 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 One additional update. As some of you know, I served as the Walk Chair for the Austin Light The Night (LLS) walk in 2016, sort of a combined personal (mother passed from leukemia a year prior) and professional (we got the first ever test cleared by the FDA to manage patients with leukemia in July) thing to which I couldn't say "no". Well, I also set a goal to raise enough funds to name a research grant portfolio in honor of my mother and hit my target juuuuuust at the end of the year, thanks to many generous friends/family/colleagues. So, there will now be an Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia grant given in memory of Diane Marie McManus from the national LLS, about which I could not be happier. So, I wanted to take a moment and thank you all for the support over the last year and a half during her illness, passing and my subsequent work with LLS (and relative absence from training). This being that moment, THANK YOU POD! They asked me this morning to serve on the board of the Austin LLS, and I'm about 100% sure I'm going to (just want to make sure it's something I can commit to doing well first). Maybe y'all will see me racing in purple this year instead of orange! It's OK, as I'm not as fast as orange is anymore anyway... and it gives me an excuse besides getting time in the saddle to write T.I.T. Again, happy 2017. Feels like a new year in lots of really great ways. Matt Congratulations! |
2017-01-04 5:19 PM in reply to: Jet Black |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by IronOx I missed that, happy birthday! Thank you for birthday wishes! Colors must not have been bright enough. |
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2017-01-04 5:28 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
812 Katy, Texas | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by IronOx I missed that, happy birthday! Thank you for birthday wishes! Colors must not have been bright enough. I'm the guy that can't find something in the pantry when it's staring you in the face right up front at eye level. |
2017-01-04 5:45 PM in reply to: mcmanusclan5 |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 One additional update. As some of you know, I served as the Walk Chair for the Austin Light The Night (LLS) walk in 2016, sort of a combined personal (mother passed from leukemia a year prior) and professional (we got the first ever test cleared by the FDA to manage patients with leukemia in July) thing to which I couldn't say "no". Well, I also set a goal to raise enough funds to name a research grant portfolio in honor of my mother and hit my target juuuuuust at the end of the year, thanks to many generous friends/family/colleagues. So, there will now be an Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia grant given in memory of Diane Marie McManus from the national LLS, about which I could not be happier. So, I wanted to take a moment and thank you all for the support over the last year and a half during her illness, passing and my subsequent work with LLS (and relative absence from training). This being that moment, THANK YOU POD! They asked me this morning to serve on the board of the Austin LLS, and I'm about 100% sure I'm going to (just want to make sure it's something I can commit to doing well first). Maybe y'all will see me racing in purple this year instead of orange! It's OK, as I'm not as fast as orange is anymore anyway... and it gives me an excuse besides getting time in the saddle to write T.I.T. Again, happy 2017. Feels like a new year in lots of really great ways. Matt Congratulations, this is cool! And I'm sure purple is your color!! |
2017-01-04 5:48 PM in reply to: rrrunner |
Veteran 2441 Western Australia | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by rrrunner Yep she is a pretty great tough lady. The chirp that she sees is a runner and also has some other sports science degrees so she has taped mum up in some way that will supposedly help reduce the bruising on her arm where she landed. Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by ceilidh Originally posted by StaceyK Ok the "Turtle Challenge" may just be bringing out the extreme competitiveness of my 60 year old mother. She fell over while doing her run today and split her head open. Apparently her first thought was "oh I'm not moving i had better stop my watch." This was quickly followed by "oh hang on I have to walk the 400m home and I might not have finished the 4km that was scheduled for today so better start it again just in case." She then walked home using her hat to try and stem the bleeding and got my dad to take her to emergency to have her head stitched up and they xrayed her shoulder to make sure she hadn't broken anything when she landed. They kept her there for 4 hours to make sure she wasn't concussed and then let her go. Her biggest concerns are: 1. she broke the screen and scratched up her brand new Garmin 235; 2. her hat is now covered in blood and ruined; 3. one of her favourite running shirts is also ruined; and 4. she might need to rearrange the rest of the weeks scheduled runs because she doesn't have a Drs certificate to say she cant run only the notes on dealing with a head injury that they gave her. Your Mom is my hero! I am very glad she wasn't hurt worse! Yep, this ^^^^ No joke! She is hard core! I think she be givin' you a run for your money on this competition! Mum got up and walked today with a friend she said there is a fair bit of blood on the foot path where she fell. |
2017-01-04 6:33 PM in reply to: Jet Black |
Veteran 2842 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: More Manatee Mayhem - 2017 Edition Originally posted by Jet Black Originally posted by IronOx I missed that, happy birthday! Thank you for birthday wishes! Ditto, and ditto!! Happy birthday and many happy returns. Matt |
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