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 2008-12-11 10:42 AM in reply to: #1849028 |
Resident Curmudgeon  25290    The Road Back Gold member |  Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008dogfacedgremlin34 - 2008-12-11 10:38 AM the bear - 2008-12-11 11:30 AM I am truly shocked at how difficult a concept this is. Shocked, I tells ya...and this statement... tech_geezer - 2008-12-11 10:08 AM dogfacedgremlin34 - 2008-12-11 9:45 AM CHR15 TREE - 2008-12-11 4:53 AM My friend and I (comma)... "I, at a semi-formal dance." Still terribly, terribly wrong. "Me, at a semi-formal dance." Correctomundo! Don't be afraid of the "me". It's not always incorrect, you know; in fact, more often than not, it's right.  The problem is that the sentence is not complete. The reader has to fill in some words to figure out the correct part of speech to use. For example, "This is my friend and I at a semi-formal dance." is correct. Or, alternatively, "This is a picture of my friend and me at a semi-formal dance." is also correct. Usually, the simplest sentence that completes the thought should be chosen so I go with the former example as the better way. I would caption the picture, "My friend and I ..." TW Um, nope. "I" is the subject form of the pronoun, used here incorrectly as the object of the sentence. (The subject is the pronoun "this" ) You would not say "This is I..." but rather "This is me..." Me be equally shocked. |
| 2008-12-11 10:45 AM in reply to: #1849040 |
| Member 35 Massachusetts | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 the bear - 2008-12-11 11:42 AM dogfacedgremlin34 - 2008-12-11 10:38 AM the bear - 2008-12-11 11:30 AM I am truly shocked at how difficult a concept this is. Shocked, I tells ya...and this statement... tech_geezer - 2008-12-11 10:08 AM dogfacedgremlin34 - 2008-12-11 9:45 AM CHR15 TREE - 2008-12-11 4:53 AM My friend and I (comma)... "I, at a semi-formal dance." Still terribly, terribly wrong. "Me, at a semi-formal dance." Correctomundo! Don't be afraid of the "me". It's not always incorrect, you know; in fact, more often than not, it's right. The problem is that the sentence is not complete. The reader has to fill in some words to figure out the correct part of speech to use. For example, "This is my friend and I at a semi-formal dance." is correct. Or, alternatively, "This is a picture of my friend and me at a semi-formal dance." is also correct. Usually, the simplest sentence that completes the thought should be chosen so I go with the former example as the better way. I would caption the picture, "My friend and I ..." TW Um, nope. "I" is the subject form of the pronoun, used here incorrectly as the object of the sentence. (The subject is the pronoun "this" ) You would not say "This is I..." but rather "This is me..." Me be equally shocked. LOL |
| 2008-12-11 11:08 AM in reply to: #1849002 |
Elite 4344 | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 Bear, are you serious? "This is I" is correct. All state-of-being verbs take nominative pronouns as objects. "It is I" not "It is me." It is a common mistake in speaking because transitive verbs take the objective pronoun. As in, "He saw me." You can forget what the verb was when speaking. When you see it written out, it is impossible to miss. TW
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| 2008-12-11 11:14 AM in reply to: #1849100 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back Gold member | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 tech_geezer - 2008-12-11 11:08 AM Bear, are you serious? "This is I" is correct. All state-of-being verbs take nominative pronouns as objects. "It is I" not "It is me." It is a common mistake in speaking because transitive verbs take the objective pronoun. As in, "He saw me." You can forget what the verb was when speaking. When you see it written out, it is impossible to miss. TW Woe is I! |
| 2008-12-11 11:41 AM in reply to: #1849002 |
Champion 11989  Philly 'burbs | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 the bear - 2008-12-11 11:30 AM tech_geezer - 2008-12-11 10:08 AM dogfacedgremlin34 - 2008-12-11 9:45 AM CHR15 TREE - 2008-12-11 4:53 AM My friend and I (comma)... "I, at a semi-formal dance." Still terribly, terribly wrong. "Me, at a semi-formal dance." Correctomundo! Don't be afraid of the "me". It's not always incorrect, you know; in fact, more often than not, it's right. The problem is that the sentence is not complete. The reader has to fill in some words to figure out the correct part of speech to use. For example, "This is my friend and I at a semi-formal dance." is correct. Or, alternatively, "This is a picture of my friend and me at a semi-formal dance." is also correct. Usually, the simplest sentence that completes the thought should be chosen so I go with the former example as the better way. I would caption the picture, "My friend and I ..." TW Um, nope. "I" is the subject form of the pronoun, used here incorrectly as the object of the sentence. (The subject is the pronoun "this" ) You would not say "This is I..." but rather "This is me..."
I'm with Bear on this one. "This is my friend and I at a semi-formal dance." is NOT correct. Neither is the caption "My friend and I"This picture is from a dance my friend and I attended <-- correct My friend and I attended a dance; here is a picture <-- correct This is a picture of my friend and me at a dance <-- correct My friend and me (caption)<-- correct |
| 2008-12-11 11:46 AM in reply to: #1849100 |
Champion 11989 Philly 'burbs | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 tech_geezer - 2008-12-11 12:08 PM Bear, are you serious? "This is I" is correct. All state-of-being verbs take nominative pronouns as objects. "It is I" not "It is me." It is a common mistake in speaking because transitive verbs take the objective pronoun. As in, "He saw me." You can forget what the verb was when speaking. When you see it written out, it is impossible to miss. TW
"It is I" is different than "This is I"
"This" is not a nominative pronoun, "It" is. Of course that depends on what your definition of "Is" is. |
| 2008-12-11 11:48 AM in reply to: #1121135 |
Champion 5171 Racine, WI | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 |
| 2008-12-11 11:52 AM in reply to: #1849200 |
Expert 1049 Burnaby, BC | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 mrbbrad - 2008-12-11 9:46 AM tech_geezer - 2008-12-11 12:08 PM Bear, are you serious? "This is I" is correct. All state-of-being verbs take nominative pronouns as objects. "It is I" not "It is me." It is a common mistake in speaking because transitive verbs take the objective pronoun. As in, "He saw me." You can forget what the verb was when speaking. When you see it written out, it is impossible to miss. TW
"It is I" is different than "This is I"
"This" is not a nominative pronoun, "It" is. Of course that depends on what your definition of "Is" is. Wow, you guys make Japanese sound easy!
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| 2008-12-11 11:54 AM in reply to: #1849207 |
Champion 11989 Philly 'burbs | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 aidana - 2008-12-11 12:48 PM oh dear lord..............someone post a pic soon!
hey, it's Girls of... so you go girl |
| 2008-12-11 12:15 PM in reply to: #1121135 |
Elite 4344 | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 "Woe is you" is right. By the way, Patricia O'Connor wrote a grammar book, Woe is I . You should probably get a copy and read it. "This is I" and "It is I" are exactly the same construction and fall under the same rule. "This" happens to be both the nominative and objective case of the pronoun, but that makes no difference to the object of "is" which is or should be nominative. I am aware of lots of usage of "It's just me." and similar drifts from standard English. The grammar books still have the same rules for verb and object agreement that have been that way for several hundred years. TW |
| 2008-12-11 12:26 PM in reply to: #1121135 |
Champion 5312 Calgary | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 Since we are discussing the matter, to start a sentence with the word "this" or the word "that" sometimes results in a confusion or a great waste of time on a certain thread and should be avoided at all costs. However, most of the time no confusion results. THIS practice should be avoided. See! |
| 2008-12-11 12:28 PM in reply to: #1121135 |
Elite 4344 | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 |
| 2008-12-11 1:50 PM in reply to: #1849207 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 aidana - 2008-12-11 11:48 AM oh dear lord..............someone post a pic soon! Agreed! Enough grammer. More gurly gurls please!!!!! |
| 2008-12-11 1:55 PM in reply to: #1849441 |
Elite 4344 | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 crowny2 - 2008-12-11 2:50 PM aidana - 2008-12-11 11:48 AM oh dear lord..............someone post a pic soon! Agreed! Enough grammer. More gurly gurls please!!!!! It's grammar. I'm planning on taking a day to correct everyone's grammar and spelling on BT. It will be fun. Really.
TW |
| 2008-12-11 1:57 PM in reply to: #1849446 |
Sneaky Slow 8694 Herndon, VA, | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 tech_geezer - 2008-12-11 2:55 PM crowny2 - 2008-12-11 2:50 PM aidana - 2008-12-11 11:48 AM oh dear lord..............someone post a pic soon! Agreed! Enough grammer. More gurly gurls please!!!!! It's grammar. I'm planning on taking a day to correct everyone's grammar and spelling on BT. It will be fun. Really. TW That, it will be the longer day of your's life. |
| 2008-12-11 2:06 PM in reply to: #1849452 |
Elite 4344 | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 newleaf - 2008-12-11 2:57 PM tech_geezer - 2008-12-11 2:55 PM crowny2 - 2008-12-11 2:50 PM aidana - 2008-12-11 11:48 AM oh dear lord..............someone post a pic soon! Agreed! Enough grammer. More gurly gurls please!!!!! It's grammar. I'm planning on taking a day to correct everyone's grammar and spelling on BT. It will be fun. Really. TW That, it will be the longer day of your's life. I deputize Newleaf as my Junior Asistant and Trainee Grammar Policeman. You start by checking the blogs for violations. TW
Edited by tech_geezer 2008-12-11 2:07 PM |
| 2008-12-11 2:15 PM in reply to: #1849446 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 tech_geezer - 2008-12-11 1:55 PM crowny2 - 2008-12-11 2:50 PM aidana - 2008-12-11 11:48 AM oh dear lord..............someone post a pic soon! Agreed! Enough grammer. More gurly gurls please!!!!! It's grammar. I'm planning on taking a day to correct everyone's grammar and spelling on BT. It will be fun. Really.
TW I will find where you live and I will TP your house, terrorize your dog and eat your shrubs. |
| 2008-12-11 2:17 PM in reply to: #1849466 |
Sneaky Slow 8694 Herndon, VA, | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 tech_geezer - 2008-12-11 3:06 PM newleaf - 2008-12-11 2:57 PM tech_geezer - 2008-12-11 2:55 PM crowny2 - 2008-12-11 2:50 PM aidana - 2008-12-11 11:48 AM oh dear lord..............someone post a pic soon! Agreed! Enough grammer. More gurly gurls please!!!!! It's grammar. I'm planning on taking a day to correct everyone's grammar and spelling on BT. It will be fun. Really. TW That, it will be the longer day of your's life. I deputize Newleaf as my Junior Asistant and Trainee Grammar Policeman. You start by checking the blogs for violations. TW that was a joke, right? Anyway, me is on it! |
| 2008-12-11 2:32 PM in reply to: #1121135 |
Elite 3687 | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 This has to be the worst hijack EVER!!! |
| 2008-12-11 2:36 PM in reply to: #1121135 |
Champion 5171 Racine, WI | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 bwaahhaaa........... Ok MAYBE, I'll post some this weekend...........c'mon girlies....anyone before then?? |
| 2008-12-11 2:39 PM in reply to: #1849531 |
Elite 4344 | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 aidana - 2008-12-11 3:36 PM bwaahhaaa........... Ok MAYBE, I'll post some this weekend...........c'mon girlies....anyone before then?? Thank you. TW |
| 2008-12-11 3:09 PM in reply to: #1121135 |
Champion 5850 Michigan | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 I'll play again. Same ones I posted on my blog though...no new ones yet. Sorry.
Edited by trixie 2008-12-11 3:14 PM |
| 2008-12-11 3:10 PM in reply to: #1121135 |
Champion 5171 Racine, WI | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 Great pic trix! where is this btw? |
| 2008-12-11 3:13 PM in reply to: #1121135 |
Champion 5850 Michigan | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 Arizona. When I was there for the IM (EDIT- to WATCH the IM) I had a shoot. Edited by trixie 2008-12-11 3:17 PM |
| 2008-12-11 3:19 PM in reply to: #1849646 |
Champion 5171 Racine, WI | Subject: RE: BT girls of 2008 trixie - 2008-12-11 3:13 PM Arizona. When I was there for the IM (EDIT- to WATCH the IM) I had a shoot. Well, I do alot of WATCHING too....but no photo shoots!  |
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