Ironman Lake Placid : Official Thread (Page 87)

I would squash the Zone testing altogether.  You keep using the term "squeeze in".  If it's that tough to get in and you're that tired - REST!  It will serve you much better in the long run.  If you continue to push too hard you Risk injury or Sickness and that will result in more than just a few workouts lost. 

Wait until you feel a bit fresher, recovered, and have ample time to retest your Zones.  You'll get more accurate results. 

If you want to get some rest and recovery without eliminating too many workouts; then ELIMINATE the Z4 work.  Why?  How many times do you plan on using Z4 on July 22nd?  Hopefully ZERO.  Z4 works your Anaerobic Engine.  For an Ironman we will be (hopefully!) relying entirely on our Aerobic Engine.  Z4 work is a plus.  It's the fancy decoration atop the cake.  But 99% of the cake itself is Z2 Aerobic Volume.  The goal for Ironman training, especially your first Ironman is to safely stuff as much Aerobic SBR Volume into your body as possible.  Putting hay in the barn as they say  

Testing is great, but chances are your zones have not changed that much.  Chances are you know the difference between Zone 2 and Zone 4 by feel alone.  You know what a Recovery Zone should feel lilke.  Etc... 

If you're tired it's your body very simply telling you "I need rest."  Listen to your body!!!

Annie

I agree with Bobby and Rusty x 1000

You will benefit more by taking a recovey week-all easy z2 and resting as much as needed.

Stress/Training+Rest=Improvement

Without 'rest', it is an imbalanced equation and you will not see improvement.

and Jeff-I'm going with my Zipp 808 on the back and front but am bringing my 404 with me...

Good to know.  I think I'm going to get the 88 and run the 88/88 combo.  I'll bring my 50 with me just in case...but I'm also going to bring my stock Felt wheels which are 38's. I want options just in case!

Wondering what people will use in the rain....?

In LAVA magazine, preaching the benefits of recovery.  Especially for us <cough> older folk.

    http://lavamagazine.com/features/50-plus-tri-recovery-is-key/

I just bought a used Zipp 909 combo (Disc w/ 404 front), which I'm considering.  I also have a set of 808 tubulars, which in reality, I'll be using at LP.  I can't justify using the disc when my ultimate goal is to finish my first IM.

As many may recommend, bigger is better in the rear!!  I'm not so sure the front is going to provide much benefit.  Stick with the 50/88 set up and save some $$.

Best of luck!

For any Long Islanders wanting to do a full-distance open water Ironman Swim (1-mile, 1.5 mile, 2 mile swim)   we're gathering Memorial Day Morning for a Wildwood Lake swim. 

Here are the details:  http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=441955&posts=1#M4224937

That looks great, I'll probably take you up on that offer.  It'll be my first ows of the season that's not in a race...

I don't know my "one thing"

I'm a fan of the Endurance Nation stuff and prior to Louisville read and watched lots of it while preparing.  Now that we're in the peak phase of training I'm starting to get back in to that routine and I just watched the "Four Keys" talk on YouTube.  It hit me rather hard that I don't have my "one thing" or my motivation for this IM.  It was so clear to me prior to Louisville.  The days when I thought about skipping a training session I just reminded myself what that "one thing" was and it usually got me out to train. 

I've done well in all of my races so far this year and did well enough in my half iron on Sunday that I'm confident that my training is on track...provided I'm consistent from here through peak and taper.  I know that I have a valid reason for doing Lake Placid otherwise I would have quit training weeks ago but I need to figure out exactly what it is to get me through peak training.

Talkin Power to Weight Ratio

Where does everyone stand?

Currently 6'0 - 168 (Thats down fro 202 a year ago)

Currently 6'6" - 219 (Down from 262 when I started this journey 1.5 years ago.)

My last ratio was 2.91 but I was 10lbs heaver so I've got to be pushing close to 3.00 at this point.

FTP test

Does anyone know where I can find a good, detailed, written description of the LP bike course?

I thought someone posted something like that on here a while back, but I wasn't able to find it (may have been somewhere else, I'm not sure).

Thanks!

That's a great lake to swim in.  Enjoy!

I just had my first OWS this year.  I was pleased to know the water was so warm....considering the time of the year! 

I remember reading it in the thread. Maybe it was Dtoce or Tankboy??? Heck I can't remember. Our thread is too long, but I think it was posted in here a couple months back.lol

5'8" - 140-145lbs, which puts me at 3.03-3.14

Hey Brendon - I am from Lynchburg VA originally and I did IMLP last year. I didn't do Storming of Thunder Ridge but I did ride many parts of that route for training for Ironman St George this year and am familiar with the route as well. If you survived that ride Lake Placid will seem like a piece of cake! The elevation change is much more on Thunder Ridge... close to 9000ft I think I remember seeing reported. You'll be all set for the descent into Keene at IMLP as well after doing that descent as well. Most of the climbing around the Peaks of Otter on that ride is a significant sustained climb. The most significatnt sustained climb in IMLP is the back 10-12 miles of the loop from Wilmington back to Lake Placid and is no where near as rough as the one you did (although when you do it on the 2nd loop it might feel that way   It's good you are doing the course at a camp because I think you'll see what I mean... the elevation changes are just very different between the two! Let me know if you have more questions and hope that helps!

Ryan

PS - I haven't been following the thread this year but I hope everyone's training is going well and building nicely! :-)

it's on here somewhere but also search youtube for the Endurance Nation bike and run course review.  One of the coaches spends about an hour discussing the course and strategy for riding it smart.

Hey Rusty,

The tires that I am using for lake placid are the tires I am riding starting now, which will probably total to 600miles comes race day.  Im a little worried because the continental sprint tires are smooth tires and have no groves on them.  If you compare it car tires itll probably be like the ones they use in the track. 

Do you normaly leave a spare tire in the special needs bag incase you end up using the spare tire you have in your bike?