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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() axteraa - 2012-09-20 1:24 PMI've spent the last 4 days training people on using some equipment in French and while I can do it, it's really hard on the head.
So imagine how hard it is for us frenchmen to BT in English ;-) |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() rymac - 2012-09-20 3:00 PM GoFaster - 2012-09-20 1:59 PM acumenjay - 2012-09-20 10:12 AM Getting colder in a hurry in CT. Rode at 6AM and it was dark for the first 30 minutes and I'm breaking out the cold weather gear. I'll probably be riding indoors during the week and sneaking outside on Sundays. How is it everywhere else? You guys setting up the pain cave? I typically don't mind the trainer because you can lock in your zones easier, bit I just really enjoy riding outside and the feeling like I'm going somewhere. It's interesting, but I've seen some various interviews with Potts, Rinny and others who do a lot of indoor workouts. I know Potts ride over 90% on the trainer (happen to watch a good interview the other day just surfing youtube while my daughter hogged the TV) and Rinny was saying she does at least 1 workout per week on the treadmill because it helps her with her run form. Thought that was interesting...alright...end of rambling. Have a good one everyone. I'm like Tom, the majority of my rides are on the trainer. I reckon 90% of my frequency (but not time) is on the trainer year round. I would much rather be outdoors riding, but the life schedule doesn't allow for it. It also means the rides tend to be a bit shorter than if I were outdoors. x3. All my weekday rides are on the trainer and I try to get outside every weekend. I realized the other day that I did NOT have 1 flat tire this entire year...that gives you an idea of how much I am on the trainer...some sort of record considering i am around 3100 miles this year on the bike. I am probably doomed next year! I had a flat tire on the trainer. |
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![]() Thursday before my last tri of the season, Orangeman HIM. Signed up to support an old friend who was getting back into racing. Of course, he dropped out and is not doing it now Not really ready for it, bike and run are a bit down. hell, so is the swim. Will be my last race as a Clydesdale as either (1) I will force myself out of it by losing those last 10# next year and (2) they're upping to 220 anyway Here's the bike course. Slow up, fast down. Run is flat. So's the swim, but it's an ocean swim. http://app.strava.com/rides/7219017 Over/under is 6 hours....... We shall see..... |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() marcag - 2012-09-20 4:13 PM axteraa - 2012-09-20 1:24 PMI've spent the last 4 days training people on using some equipment in French and while I can do it, it's really hard on the head.
So imagine how hard it is for us frenchmen to BT in English ;-) Probably even tougher! It's one thing to speak a different language but if I had to write it as well, I'd be screwed! |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Shyte. I feel like I can't catch a break. Maybe Ironman will just be a case of whenever I have enough accumulated base built up and get lucky with good conditions and everything coming together on the day. After all you've had to deal with, I feel like my medical situation this year was kids' stuff. But try to hang in there... focus on what you CAN do and let the rest go. I really think with a course suited to you that's not freezing cold, you'll do quite well. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ChrisM - 2012-09-20 4:20 PM Thursday before my last tri of the season, Orangeman HIM. Signed up to support an old friend who was getting back into racing. Of course, he dropped out and is not doing it now Not really ready for it, bike and run are a bit down. hell, so is the swim. Will be my last race as a Clydesdale as either (1) I will force myself out of it by losing those last 10# next year and (2) they're upping to 220 anyway Here's the bike course. Slow up, fast down. Run is flat. So's the swim, but it's an ocean swim. http://app.strava.com/rides/7219017 Over/under is 6 hours....... We shall see..... That's quite the bike profile. 1:50 up, 1:15 back down! Last race of the season, not really ready, last race as a Clyde, I say give'r and see what happens! |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() axteraa - 2012-09-20 12:58 PM ChrisM - 2012-09-20 4:20 PM Thursday before my last tri of the season, Orangeman HIM. Signed up to support an old friend who was getting back into racing. Of course, he dropped out and is not doing it now Not really ready for it, bike and run are a bit down. hell, so is the swim. Will be my last race as a Clydesdale as either (1) I will force myself out of it by losing those last 10# next year and (2) they're upping to 220 anyway Here's the bike course. Slow up, fast down. Run is flat. So's the swim, but it's an ocean swim. http://app.strava.com/rides/7219017 Over/under is 6 hours....... We shall see..... That's quite the bike profile. 1:50 up, 1:15 back down! Last race of the season, not really ready, last race as a Clyde, I say give'r and see what happens! Heh heh did you see my Mt. Hood profile earlier this summer? |
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![]() Was supposed to wake up for a trainer workout this morning. FAIL. Forgot just how much swimming wipes me out sometimes. Moving the workout to the evening. I've given up on weekday rides...the sun is no longer cooperating. I've had 3 flats on the trainer. Once because I pinched the tube, and two because I had faulty rim tape...LOL. |
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![]() spudone - 2012-09-20 10:10 AM axteraa - 2012-09-20 12:58 PM ChrisM - 2012-09-20 4:20 PM Thursday before my last tri of the season, Orangeman HIM. Signed up to support an old friend who was getting back into racing. Of course, he dropped out and is not doing it now Not really ready for it, bike and run are a bit down. hell, so is the swim. Will be my last race as a Clydesdale as either (1) I will force myself out of it by losing those last 10# next year and (2) they're upping to 220 anyway Here's the bike course. Slow up, fast down. Run is flat. So's the swim, but it's an ocean swim. http://app.strava.com/rides/7219017 Over/under is 6 hours....... We shall see..... That's quite the bike profile. 1:50 up, 1:15 back down! Last race of the season, not really ready, last race as a Clyde, I say give'r and see what happens! Heh heh did you see my Mt. Hood profile earlier this summer? 35.8 mph @ 3 watts. Nice. |
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![]() spudone - 2012-09-20 1:10 PM axteraa - 2012-09-20 12:58 PM ChrisM - 2012-09-20 4:20 PM Thursday before my last tri of the season, Orangeman HIM. Signed up to support an old friend who was getting back into racing. Of course, he dropped out and is not doing it now Not really ready for it, bike and run are a bit down. hell, so is the swim. Will be my last race as a Clydesdale as either (1) I will force myself out of it by losing those last 10# next year and (2) they're upping to 220 anyway Here's the bike course. Slow up, fast down. Run is flat. So's the swim, but it's an ocean swim. http://app.strava.com/rides/7219017 Over/under is 6 hours....... We shall see..... That's quite the bike profile. 1:50 up, 1:15 back down! Last race of the season, not really ready, last race as a Clyde, I say give'r and see what happens! Heh heh did you see my Mt. Hood profile earlier this summer? I don't know if Jason posted his ride on strava, but here's an XL version of my and your profile.... |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Run pacing question. I'm looking at the Macmillan Calculator and wondering if I should pace my runs off my last stand alone HM or pace according to what I want my goal time to be for my next HM? |
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![]() GoFaster - 2012-09-20 11:27 AM Run pacing question. I'm looking at the Macmillan Calculator and wondering if I should pace my runs off my last stand alone HM or pace according to what I want my goal time to be for my next HM? I usually go off my current time, and try to work towards my goal. I'm not sure how McMillian views it though. Are you supposed to be training at X pace the whole time to predict Y race result? Or do you just need to work up to X pace for a couple weeks at your peak? Interesting question. |
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![]() GoFaster - 2012-09-20 2:27 PM Run pacing question. I'm looking at the Macmillan Calculator and wondering if I should pace my runs off my last stand alone HM or pace according to what I want my goal time to be for my next HM? My .02 is that has always been your historical time, as it's a predictor of future time based on current fitness. |
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Elite![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Nice and easy 30 min run this morning. I have to go work for a few hours this morning and then flying home this afternoon. I was hoping to get out on the bike this weekend but the current forecast is rain and thundershowers - not looking promising. |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() axteraa - 2012-09-21 6:00 AM Nice and easy 30 min run this morning. I have to go work for a few hours this morning and then flying home this afternoon. I was hoping to get out on the bike this weekend but the current forecast is rain and thundershowers - not looking promising. Where did you run ?You can see mine on Strava. We may have crossed paths.i was out from 6:15 to 7ish Next time in Mtl, let me know. I'll show you the in spots to swim, run, bike and other |
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Elite![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() marcag - 2012-09-21 9:22 AM axteraa - 2012-09-21 6:00 AM Nice and easy 30 min run this morning. I have to go work for a few hours this morning and then flying home this afternoon. I was hoping to get out on the bike this weekend but the current forecast is rain and thundershowers - not looking promising. Where did you run ?You can see mine on Strava. We may have crossed paths.i was out from 6:15 to 7ish Next time in Mtl, let me know. I'll show you the in spots to swim, run, bike and other I went from my hotel down Peel and then towards the Old Port. We had a small overlap and were probably pretty close timing wise. I was out from 6:15 to 6:45. I will let you know next time for sure. |
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Elite![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tri808 - 2012-09-20 5:33 PM GoFaster - 2012-09-20 11:27 AM Run pacing question. I'm looking at the Macmillan Calculator and wondering if I should pace my runs off my last stand alone HM or pace according to what I want my goal time to be for my next HM? I usually go off my current time, and try to work towards my goal. I'm not sure how McMillian views it though. Are you supposed to be training at X pace the whole time to predict Y race result? Or do you just need to work up to X pace for a couple weeks at your peak? Interesting question. And that's why I wonder if to race faster, I need to train a bit faster. If I use my last HM time, I'm not sure how I gain additional speed to post a faster HM time next go round. But if I use the goal time (assuming it's not an absurd leap) then I can train to hopefully run that new goal time. Otherwise I'm not sure how I magically run faster on race day. |
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Elite![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GoFaster - 2012-09-21 9:45 AM tri808 - 2012-09-20 5:33 PM GoFaster - 2012-09-20 11:27 AM Run pacing question. I'm looking at the Macmillan Calculator and wondering if I should pace my runs off my last stand alone HM or pace according to what I want my goal time to be for my next HM? I usually go off my current time, and try to work towards my goal. I'm not sure how McMillian views it though. Are you supposed to be training at X pace the whole time to predict Y race result? Or do you just need to work up to X pace for a couple weeks at your peak? Interesting question. And that's why I wonder if to race faster, I need to train a bit faster. If I use my last HM time, I'm not sure how I gain additional speed to post a faster HM time next go round. But if I use the goal time (assuming it's not an absurd leap) then I can train to hopefully run that new goal time. Otherwise I'm not sure how I magically run faster on race day. but I think the calculator gives you paces to train at in order to improve doesn't it? It will tell you what pace to run for your easy runs, long runs, tempo runs etc. When I enter my 5k time, it certainly suggests pace times that would push me. The ranges are pretty wide but towards the faster end, it would be challenging for sure. |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GoFaster - 2012-09-21 7:45 AM tri808 - 2012-09-20 5:33 PM GoFaster - 2012-09-20 11:27 AM Run pacing question. I'm looking at the Macmillan Calculator and wondering if I should pace my runs off my last stand alone HM or pace according to what I want my goal time to be for my next HM? I usually go off my current time, and try to work towards my goal. I'm not sure how McMillian views it though. Are you supposed to be training at X pace the whole time to predict Y race result? Or do you just need to work up to X pace for a couple weeks at your peak? Interesting question. And that's why I wonder if to race faster, I need to train a bit faster. If I use my last HM time, I'm not sure how I gain additional speed to post a faster HM time next go round. But if I use the goal time (assuming it's not an absurd leap) then I can train to hopefully run that new goal time. Otherwise I'm not sure how I magically run faster on race day.
Just take the Mcmillan ranges and run at the faster end of the range. For sure you will improve. As a matter of fact, if you run at the faster end of the range you will be in the range of your target number. If your target number is realistic. I think the trick is to set realistic targets for improvement. Use Jack Daniel's. Calculate your VDOT. Then increase by 1. Make that your target. Train as per McMillan's paces, race and once you hit the new VDOT, increase For example a 1:30HM is a 51 VDOT. A 1:28HM is a 52VDOT, setting a 1:24HM goal makes no sense to me. Hit 1:28, then move to the next step until you get to 1:24. Chasing 1:24 right off the bat just sets you up for disappointment and injury. |
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Melon Presser![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() spudone - 2012-09-21 3:46 AM Shyte. I feel like I can't catch a break. Maybe Ironman will just be a case of whenever I have enough accumulated base built up and get lucky with good conditions and everything coming together on the day. After all you've had to deal with, I feel like my medical situation this year was kids' stuff. But try to hang in there... focus on what you CAN do and let the rest go. I really think with a course suited to you that's not freezing cold, you'll do quite well. Aw, schpanks Spiglet and all you other kind wonderful folks. It's been a long 2.5 years. At least this time it isn't some horrible tropical illness where first you feel like you're dying (and you might be) and then you want to die. I do know how to do sick and do it well--to stay reasonably happy and vaguely productive. The truth is I've also never been in the triathlon game for results, but for the journey, the knowledge, the fun/adventure, and most of all ... the piglets. |
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