Manatee Mentors 2015.2 CLOSED (Poptarts? Pet pics?) (Page 95)

I'd never heard of Yerdle.  How cool!

I think I've now surpassed my wife for number of shoes which is almost like an Imelda Marcos thing.  The LRS guys love me and have ordered shoes for me before I ask them because they just know I'm a sucker for a pretty sole.  There are so many options out there that I tire quickly of a shoe even if it's performing well.  I think we are always chasing the perfect pair.

I'm sure you will have no problem finding new options.  How many miles will you put on a new pair that aren't what you expected before you bag em?

My feet are jerks that only like certain shoes.  And then the company stops making them and I start the search all over.  And they are usually in only one colour.  Pout.

I hear ya! Mine are the same way. 

When I started running there were not a lot of options.  It was like this:

OR This:

Yeah, my feet can run in many, but only really like a few.  ASICS have been good to me over the years, but I can't find the exaaaact right balance of light and support for my foot in the current lineup.  Saucony have been great the last couple cycles (but the Mirage 4 is just a leetle different than the 3 - which I loved, not least for the ORANGE color that wasn't available when I bought my #4s).  Hoka's have come and gone, but I am running in a pair for recovery/ez runs at the moment (too big to feel right when going hard).

My biggest lament is that Newtons break my feet (and Kim's - in her case literally during a HM).  I love love LOVE those dang shoes - fastest feeling road shoes I've had.  But the 4 lug version really beat our feet up.  I could run in those sockless all day long, too - they were like a secret weapon in sprint and Oly tri's!

I'm thinking of trying the Zoot's made for socklessness, and maybe the new 5 lug Newtons.

Anyone run in either of those?

I have an Oly at the end of the month and will likely pick up a new pair (and prolly a DeSoto one-piece tri suit with the floaty crotch pad) or two tomorrow so I can run in them a bit before the race.  I can always use my Saucony or ASICS in the race, but I don't like socks in an Oly (and I bleed with all those shoes if I drop the socks - tried 'em all).

Ramble done.

Matt

I haven't had Asics since volleyball years. Tried them once since, and the cut of the heel (don't remember which ones) was super aggravating, so went with other shoes. Been mostly Brooks lately. Really like my Adrenalines more than the Ravennas (both stability).  The Pearl Izumi Road M3s I picked up in KS I've found very comfortable (moderate stability). Cascadias are neutral and I can run in them just fine.

Didn't buy them yet. Figured I'd look at reviews and get feedback.

I really like the feel of the Books Adrenalines, except that the arch was like 1cm back from where my minimal arch is - my feet have all the arch of a piece of plywood - and it felt like running on a marble after a few runs (enough to not be able to return the shoes, of course).  Otherwise, I really liked the way they felt (flex, upper, etc.) - was bummed that my feet got finicky on those ones...

Matt

LOL...To clarify, I meant about the neighbors not you.

As long as the colour is FAST

Ha!  No worries. 

While I'm certainly not going to shoot at drones, I have been a waterfowler for many years (and love being out in the marsh and on the water - hunting, fishing... or not) and come from generations of people who go down to the sea in boats - and do all sorts of outdoorsy stuff. 

So, we have firearms in the house.  To get to them requires a combination to a safe, a key to another safe, a combination to a safe for ammo and a key or combination for each firearm lock.  So, I'm certainly not against gun ownership, per se, but I'm not quite the yahoo that's pot-shotting at drones! 

That said, a close friend I went through the MD/PhD program with has a farm in western Ohio and has been known to get creative with targets out on the "rockpile" in the back 40.  He has a few fewer drones than he used to, from the pics I've seen.    Not just FL and TX, apparently!

Matt

All racing shoes should be orange.

And now back to your regularly scheduled program.

Matt

I like my Asics TriNoosa's so much I currently have 2 pair in the rotation, and a pair of 2170's as well. The TriNoosa's will be my race shoe this year, since Pearl Izumi stopped making the iso-Transitions that I loved to race in. Of course, I have V8 of the noosa and they are on 9 or 10 at this point.  I have nearly 500 miles on my 2170's and they are still used on occasion.  I have found all their stuff to be pretty good, although my Noosa's with 407 miles on them are wearing out from the inside. Time for more shoes!

Agreed on the Noosa's, too.  I have a pair in the rotation with a bit over 300 miles on them.  I like the shoe - light and fast, really good with a ton or sweat or on a rainy run - but they also make my toe knuckles bleed without socks.  Have you run in them without socks?  Just wondering if maybe you sized up or down a little from others and if that might help where the shoe "breaks" on my feet... 

Just curious.

Matt

+1 on the iso Transitions.  I really liked them for their lightweight yet soft ride with great flexibility.  The ASCIS GEL-Electro's that I mentioned have a similar feel but are not tri specific.

I thought I'd try the Zoot's and find that they are comfortable sockless but do not have the flexibility and softness of the PI's.  They are the only shoe I have ever worn that truly is not to size.  Go up a half size.  They are the brightest yellow I've ever worn.

You must be half Dutch, half Irish

I don't count. I know when it's time, I can feel it. It depends on the style of shoe but I can get somewhere between 700-800 miles out of a pair. Which the math seems to add up for the most part.

And while we are on the subject, I say go, try on a pair and run in them and see what is comfortable.

Other than quality (in terms of not falling apart quickly) I don't really think anything else matters. Including the sales person and your peers. 

Well, except color

All my Asics are .5 up, but then so were my PI's and the Zoot's I tried and the On Clouds that I have now. Soooo, I guess I am now a 12. Sauconies and NB's were an 11.5 at the beginning of my running. I believe the punnding changes things. And I am a sock runner/racer. I'll lose 30 seconds for sock comfort, but from way back here, that is fine!

Steve and I will be starting a petition to bring back the isoTrans. Best shoe I ever raced in.

I guess most people do as you've said.  Try them on, run around a bit and then decide if they are comfortable enough to invest some miles in.

My last question was really geared towards my situation which sounds like most don't have.  I have an odd size so the LRS always has to special order my shoes.  I read about what I think I want, they order it, I buy it.  I don't really get a chance to try so my question isn't really relevent as to how many miles you would run in a new shoe that you bought without trying when it doesn't really feel all that great.  I just feel guilty having a small local shop incur the shipping and then me say no thanks.  Most of what I buy I do get normal mileage out of and if not I try to give them away to someone else that can use them.  Even the worst shoe I'll suffer through a hundred miles or so to get some justification over my spending.

I'll ocassionaly see a new pair on Ebay but alas never my size.  Always like a 14 or something like that.

I haven't tried their replacement the E:MOTIONS.  Do you know anything about them?  From what I've read they are not like the iso's

Oh sorry, I misread.

Hum. Yeah, I have some pair that at some point bothered me but it was past the point where I felt comfortable sending them back. I suppose that is in the 20-30 mile range maybe?

There is a local store that does a demo program where you pay a certain amount per month to demo an unlimited amount of shoes and then that monthly amount is deducted from the shoe you decide on. Might be good for someone like you

I've heard the same, a completely different shoe.

Ann-Marie, have you tried the E:Motions? I thought I remember that from somewhere, but I could very well be making stuff up.

My Road M3s are E:Motion, but, though they are a very comfortable ride for me, I have no previous Pearl Izumi shoe experience to compare  

Wow, you have a great memory!  I did buy a pair and was liking them, but right around the time I got them I was diagnosed with capsilitis and they are not cushioned enough to keep the ouchy away!

You are the first, last and only person who has ever told me that