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2004-12-16 9:08 AM

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Subject: Flip Turn video clip?
Does anyone know of a site that has a flip turn video clip?
(I don't have the TI DVD w/ me.)

Thanks and Happy Holidays!

Rob


2004-12-16 9:56 AM
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Subject: RE: Flip Turn video clip?
Here's one, but you'll have to download the small video player they have

http://www.coachesinfo.com/category/swimming/281/

There's two video clips on the bottom of the page, I think you are looking for the last clip of the guy doing it (the gal is doing one also, but for some reason she ends up leaving the wall on her back which is kind of wierd).



2004-12-16 10:52 AM
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Subject: RE: Flip Turn video clip?

http://www.goswim.tv/vids/flpturnseq.html

Seems to be loading kind of slowly though

2004-12-16 1:55 PM
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Subject: RE: Flip Turn video clip?
I've always heard not to do flip-turns (Assuming you're talking about this for training and not doing your tri racing in a pool) because it requires more exertion thus raising your heartrate and thus skewing your HR zone training.

Anyone have different opinions?
2004-12-16 5:31 PM
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Subject: RE: Flip Turn video clip?
http://www.swim.ee

Choose videos section then browse all the subsections.... They contain A whole lot of stuff !!

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2004-12-17 1:26 AM
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Subject: RE: Flip Turn video clip?
J Warr - 2004-12-16 11:55 AM

I've always heard not to do flip-turns (Assuming you're talking about this for training and not doing your tri racing in a pool) because it requires more exertion thus raising your heartrate and thus skewing your HR zone training.

Anyone have different opinions?


If done correctly, doesn't really require that much effort, and certainly less than most people I see topping at the wall, pulling up a bit, and turning. My problem is when it gets hard having to hold my breath for that extra beat or two.



2004-12-17 7:56 AM
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Subject: RE: Flip Turn video clip?

I know there's one on at http://www.goswim.tv/videolist.php but I have not been able to get the video to run.  When I click on it I get a blank box.  Can anyone with computer savvy help me out?

2004-12-17 1:48 PM
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Won't work for me either
2004-12-17 1:53 PM
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Subject: RE: Flip Turn video clip?
That's where I normally go, but since it didn't work, I recommended going here instead for the flip turn.

http://www.coachesinfo.com/category/swimming/281/

Ken - 2004-12-17 4:56 AM

I know there's one on at http://www.goswim.tv/videolist.php but I have not been able to get the video to run.  When I click on it I get a blank box.  Can anyone with computer savvy help me out?

2004-12-18 6:45 AM
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Subject: RE: Flip Turn video clip?
I personally wouldn't recommend flip turns. I dislocated my shoulder 13 times doing flip turns. There is alot of stress put on the shoulder. Of course my rotator cuff was already damaged from improper weightlifitng.

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2004-12-18 3:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Flip Turn video clip?
I just started doing flip turns and was frustrated for about 2 swims, but started getting the hang of it after that.

Now I don't feel like such a freak at Masters!


2004-12-18 5:00 PM
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Rowdy - 2004-12-18 4:45 AM

I personally wouldn't recommend flip turns. I dislocated my shoulder 13 times doing flip turns. There is alot of stress put on the shoulder. Of course my rotator cuff was already damaged from improper weightlifitng.

Mike


Never heard of this, can you explain how it happened?

Did them for years in hi school and college and the last year, no noticeable stress on my shoulder. Could it have been your technique?

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2004-12-18 5:43 PM
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Subject: RE: Flip Turn video clip?

I dislocated my shoulder 13 times doing flip turns.

You think you'd learn better after six or eight times.

2004-12-18 9:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Flip Turn video clip?
When I learned as kid I ended up with scars on the tops of both shoulders from pushing off right towards the bottom of the pool!

Now I do them for several reasons:
-first, there is the underwater glide where you can really focus on teh feeling of the water slipping past your body and makign yourself as streamlined as possible. you can't get this during any other part of swim training. I think it is good tactile training for how you should feel while swimming
-second, there is that little extra it of aerobic training depending on how far you glide before coming up.

You can still do a flip turn, not push off with too much vigor, come up quickly and not break breathing cadence too much.

Not doing a flip turn keeps you VERY aerobic, but sometimes I find that it breaks my rhythm a little too much.

It all depends on how you do it.
2004-12-18 9:36 PM
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Subject: RE: Flip Turn video clip?

I've never experienced trouble with my shoulders because of flip-turns.  Not sure exactly how the shoulders could be subceptible to injury when flipping either...

The only major injury I can think of that is caused by swimming is swimmers shoulder.  I'm not positive, but I believe swimmers shoulder is when you develop a tear in your rotator cuff.  This is primarily (again, not positive) due to wear and tear and is not something that happens over night. 

IMHO, flip-turns are a good thing for tri people to do, as they provide an excellent cardio w/o.  It may take a few practices to get the hang of flipping, but stick with it!! 



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2004-12-19 12:26 PM
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Subject: RE: Flip Turn video clip?
when doing a flip turn, the arms are actually at rest. the beginning of the turn actually starts with your abs (flip onto something soft like a bed and you'll notice the emphasis within the core). as your legs flip over, your arms actually rotate over your head with ease; alot of people have them swinging at the sides.


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